Guest guest Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 It's time for me to get more probiotics. The latest Life Extension Magazine touts a NEW form of probiotic that is spores. They say that the probiotics in yogurt, powders and capsules are useless because they are destroyed by stomach acid before they reach your intestine. Spores do. I've been adding extra powder to my cottage cheese/ flax oil homogenized mix. Am I, and millions, wasting out time. Powder, capsules, or spores (expensively sold by LEF only) What's the best? Rhoda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 Rhoda, It is mostly true. While there may be a small percentage of bacteria that make it to the gut, most are destroyed by the HCL in the stomach. Spores on the other hand should be able to withstand the acid bath and make it to the small intestine where they are needed. It's a good idea, especially if one is deficient in them or is taking antibiotics. - Rhoda Mead oleander soup Monday, January 12, 2009 6:19 PM Probiotics It's time for me to get more probiotics. The latest Life Extension Magazine touts a NEW form of probiotic that is spores. They say that the probiotics in yogurt, powders and capsules are useless because they are destroyed by stomach acid before they reach your intestine. Spores do. I've been adding extra powder to my cottage cheese/ flax oil homogenized mix. Am I, and millions, wasting out time. Powder, capsules, or spores (expensively sold by LEF only) What's the best? Rhoda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 Probiotic capsules are definately not useless. I have had patients go from "0" lactobacillus on a CDSA test to "+4" (highest category) in a few weeks taking capsules on an empty stomach. This sounds like marketing hype. Mike Rhoda Mead <hummingbird541oleander soup Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 8:19:52 PM Probiotics It's time for me to get more probiotics. The latest Life Extension Magazine touts a NEW form of probiotic that is spores. They say that the probiotics in yogurt, powders and capsules are useless because they are destroyed by stomach acid before they reach your intestine. Spores do. I've been adding extra powder to my cottage cheese/ flax oil homogenized mix. Am I, and millions, wasting out time. Powder, capsules, or spores (expensively sold by LEF only) What's the best? Rhoda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 Hi Rhoda Yes, the best type is spore bearing. LEF does not have an exclusive on this at all. I have been offering a spore-bearing probiotic for at least five years and the product we offer has been around even longer than that. We use it with all of our cleanses very successfully. You can find it at: /Supplements.htm It is called Latero-Flora as is under the OAW products section. Bacillus Laterosporus (B.O.D.™ strain) One of the most enigmatic of the transient " friendly " microorganisms located in the human gastrointestinal tract. Bacillus Laterosporus (B.O.D.™ strain) is a spore bearing bacteria which enables the encased spore to survive the stomach acids. Thus, the full benefit of Bacillus Laterosporus B.O.D.™ will bloom and flourish in the colon and establish colonies that will augment the immune system. How does Bacillus Laterosporus BOD help protect us from disease? The action is three-fold. First these organisms attack and help to eliminate pathogenic organisms such as Salmonella, E.Coli and Streptococci. They also create a hostile environment against viruses. Second, they stimulate the immune system to produce more antibodies against bacteria and viruses. Lastly, Bacillus Laterosporus BOD improves digestion by completely breaking down food in the intestines and assists in the elimination of toxins. Long term exposure to incomplete digestion and toxins has been implicated as the cause of many chronic diseases. Be Well~ Loretta Lanphier, ND, CN, HHP, CH It's time for me to get more probiotics. The latest Life Extension Magazine touts a NEW form of probiotic that is spores. They say that the probiotics in yogurt, powders and capsules are useless because they are destroyed by stomach acid before they reach your intestine. Spores do. I've been adding extra powder to my cottage cheese/ flax oil homogenized mix. Am I, and millions, wasting out time. Powder, capsules, or spores (expensively sold by LEF only) What's the best? Rhoda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 Mike, It's probably that those capsules were able to make it through the stomach before dissolving. Once in the small intestine the bacteria would be viable. - Mike Golden oleander soup Monday, January 12, 2009 7:19 PM Re: Probiotics Probiotic capsules are definately not useless. I have had patients go from "0" lactobacillus on a CDSA test to "+4" (highest category) in a few weeks taking capsules on an empty stomach. This sounds like marketing hype. Mike Rhoda Mead <hummingbird541oleander soup Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 8:19:52 PM Probiotics It's time for me to get more probiotics. The latest Life Extension Magazine touts a NEW form of probiotic that is spores. They say that the probiotics in yogurt, powders and capsules are useless because they are destroyed by stomach acid before they reach your intestine. Spores do. I've been adding extra powder to my cottage cheese/ flax oil homogenized mix. Am I, and millions, wasting out time. Powder, capsules, or spores (expensively sold by LEF only) What's the best? Rhoda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 I use Natrol BioBeads which has an enteric coating so that the live cultures are only released only in the digestive tract. http://www.natrol.com/digestive-health/4042-biobeads/ Cheaper on eBay: http://cgi.ebay.com/Natrol-Bio-Beads-Relieve-Travel-Sickness-30-beads_W0QQitemZ360120633520QQcmdZViewItem - Steve oleander soup oleander soup On Behalf Of Bob BaneverMonday, January 12, 2009 8:08 PMoleander soup Subject: Re: Probiotics Mike, It's probably that those capsules were able to make it through the stomach before dissolving. Once in the small intestine the bacteria would be viable. - Mike Golden oleander soup Monday, January 12, 2009 7:19 PM Re: Probiotics Probiotic capsules are definately not useless. I have had patients go from "0" lactobacillus on a CDSA test to "+4" (highest category) in a few weeks taking capsules on an empty stomach. This sounds like marketing hype. Mike Rhoda Mead <hummingbird541 >oleander soup Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 8:19:52 PM Probiotics It's time for me to get more probiotics. The latest Life Extension Magazine touts a NEW form of probiotic that is spores. They say that the probiotics in yogurt, powders and capsules are useless because they are destroyed by stomach acid before they reach your intestine. Spores do. I've been adding extra powder to my cottage cheese/ flax oil homogenized mix. Am I, and millions, wasting out time. Powder, capsules, or spores (expensively sold by LEF only) What's the best? Rhoda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 I wonder why these have been discontinued on iHerb? oleander soup , " Norton, Steve " <stephen.norton wrote: > > I use Natrol BioBeads which has an enteric coating so that the live > cultures are only released only in the digestive tract. > > http://www.natrol.com/digestive-health/4042-biobeads/ > <http://cgi.ebay.com/Natrol-Bio-Beads-Relieve-Travel-Sickness-30- beads_W > 0QQitemZ360120633520QQcmdZViewItem> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 What about using the probiotics as a rectal implant? Would they get to the small intestines? Would that work a well as the spore kind? Naomi - Bob Banever oleander soup Monday, January 12, 2009 8:08 PM Re: Probiotics Mike, It's probably that those capsules were able to make it through the stomach before dissolving. Once in the small intestine the bacteria would be viable. - Mike Golden oleander soup Monday, January 12, 2009 7:19 PM Re: Probiotics Probiotic capsules are definately not useless. I have had patients go from "0" lactobacillus on a CDSA test to "+4" (highest category) in a few weeks taking capsules on an empty stomach. This sounds like marketing hype. Mike Rhoda Mead <hummingbird541 >oleander soup Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 8:19:52 PM Probiotics It's time for me to get more probiotics. The latest Life Extension Magazine touts a NEW form of probiotic that is spores. They say that the probiotics in yogurt, powders and capsules are useless because they are destroyed by stomach acid before they reach your intestine. Spores do. I've been adding extra powder to my cottage cheese/ flax oil homogenized mix. Am I, and millions, wasting out time. Powder, capsules, or spores (expensively sold by LEF only) What's the best? Rhoda Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.6/1889 - Release 1/12/2009 8:18 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 You won't innoculate the small intestine with a rectal implant. Mike Naomi <naomilholeander soup Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 12:34:43 PMRe: Probiotics What about using the probiotics as a rectal implant? Would they get to the small intestines? Would that work a well as the spore kind? Naomi - Bob Banever oleander soup Monday, January 12, 2009 8:08 PM Re: Probiotics Mike, It's probably that those capsules were able to make it through the stomach before dissolving. Once in the small intestine the bacteria would be viable. - Mike Golden oleander soup Monday, January 12, 2009 7:19 PM Re: Probiotics Probiotic capsules are definately not useless. I have had patients go from "0" lactobacillus on a CDSA test to "+4" (highest category) in a few weeks taking capsules on an empty stomach. This sounds like marketing hype. Mike Rhoda Mead <hummingbird541@ gmail.com>oleander soupMonday, January 12, 2009 8:19:52 PM Probiotics It's time for me to get more probiotics. The latest Life Extension Magazine touts a NEW form of probiotic that is spores. They say that the probiotics in yogurt, powders and capsules are useless because they are destroyed by stomach acid before they reach your intestine. Spores do. I've been adding extra powder to my cottage cheese/ flax oil homogenized mix. Am I, and millions, wasting out time. Powder, capsules, or spores (expensively sold by LEF only) What's the best? Rhoda Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.6/1889 - Release 1/12/2009 8:18 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 Well, yes, that's exactly my point. If they are taken regularly on an empty stomach (when HCL is low) they work just fine in colonizing the bowel. You don't need a "new and improved" version. I've never seen this fail to work. Mike Bob Banever <bbaneveroleander soup Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 10:08:08 PMRe: Probiotics Mike, It's probably that those capsules were able to make it through the stomach before dissolving. Once in the small intestine the bacteria would be viable. - Mike Golden oleander soup Monday, January 12, 2009 7:19 PM Re: Probiotics Probiotic capsules are definately not useless. I have had patients go from "0" lactobacillus on a CDSA test to "+4" (highest category) in a few weeks taking capsules on an empty stomach. This sounds like marketing hype. Mike Rhoda Mead <hummingbird541@ gmail.com>oleander soupMonday, January 12, 2009 8:19:52 PM Probiotics It's time for me to get more probiotics. The latest Life Extension Magazine touts a NEW form of probiotic that is spores. They say that the probiotics in yogurt, powders and capsules are useless because they are destroyed by stomach acid before they reach your intestine. Spores do. I've been adding extra powder to my cottage cheese/ flax oil homogenized mix. Am I, and millions, wasting out time. Powder, capsules, or spores (expensively sold by LEF only) What's the best? Rhoda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 Naomi. Sometimes ego my younger daughter suffer food poison, or that's what we thought but, after 1 week of dairrhea and vomiting and doctors medicine din't work, i started giving her herbal teas and plenty of water, but the problem din't stop , so i give her probiotic anemas 3-4 times a day, gues what ? it did the trick vomiting stop, dairrhea stop and she was well in 3 days. So i thing probiotics will work rectally. Hugs Mary - Naomi oleander soup Wednesday, January 14, 2009 5:34 AM Re: Probiotics What about using the probiotics as a rectal implant? Would they get to the small intestines? Would that work a well as the spore kind? Naomi - Bob Banever oleander soup Monday, January 12, 2009 8:08 PM Re: Probiotics Mike, It's probably that those capsules were able to make it through the stomach before dissolving. Once in the small intestine the bacteria would be viable. - Mike Golden oleander soup Monday, January 12, 2009 7:19 PM Re: Probiotics Probiotic capsules are definately not useless. I have had patients go from "0" lactobacillus on a CDSA test to "+4" (highest category) in a few weeks taking capsules on an empty stomach. This sounds like marketing hype. Mike Rhoda Mead <hummingbird541 >oleander soup Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 8:19:52 PM Probiotics It's time for me to get more probiotics. The latest Life Extension Magazine touts a NEW form of probiotic that is spores. They say that the probiotics in yogurt, powders and capsules are useless because they are destroyed by stomach acid before they reach your intestine. Spores do. I've been adding extra powder to my cottage cheese/ flax oil homogenized mix. Am I, and millions, wasting out time. Powder, capsules, or spores (expensively sold by LEF only) What's the best? Rhoda Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.6/1889 - Release 1/12/2009 8:18 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 Oh no -- I've been taking them WITH FOOD all along. Yikes. How long before you eat should they be taken? oleander soup , Mike Golden <goldenmike86 wrote: > > Well, yes, that's exactly my point. If they are taken regularly on an empty stomach (when HCL is low) they work just fine in colonizing the bowel. You don't need a " new and improved " version. I've never seen this fail to work. > > Mike > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 well, i got the natrol probiotics on ebay...$22 for 360 tabs. plus 6.99 shipping. thanks for the tip. diana oleander soup , " Norton, Steve " <stephen.norton wrote: > > I use Natrol BioBeads which has an enteric coating so that the live > cultures are only released only in the digestive tract. > > http://www.natrol.com/digestive-health/4042-biobeads/ > <http://cgi.ebay.com/Natrol-Bio-Beads-Relieve-Travel-Sickness-30-beads_W > 0QQitemZ360120633520QQcmdZViewItem> > > > Cheaper on eBay: > > http://cgi.ebay.com/Natrol-Bio-Beads-Relieve-Travel-Sickness-30-beads_W0 > QQitemZ360120633520QQcmdZViewItem > > - Steve > > ________________________________ > > oleander soup oleander soup > On Behalf Of Bob Banever > Monday, January 12, 2009 8:08 PM > oleander soup > Re: Probiotics > > > > Mike, > > It's probably that those capsules were able to make it through the > stomach before dissolving. Once in the small intestine the bacteria > would be viable. > > - > Mike Golden <goldenmike86 > oleander soup > <oleander soup > > Monday, January 12, 2009 7:19 PM > Re: Probiotics > > Probiotic capsules are definately not useless. I have had > patients go from " 0 " lactobacillus on a CDSA test to " +4 " (highest > category) in a few weeks taking capsules on an empty stomach. This > sounds like marketing hype. > > Mike > > > > ________________________________ > > Rhoda Mead <hummingbird541 > <hummingbird541 > > oleander soup > <oleander soup > > Monday, January 12, 2009 8:19:52 PM > Probiotics > > > > It's time for me to get more probiotics. > The latest Life Extension Magazine touts a NEW form of > probiotic that is spores. They say that the probiotics in yogurt, > powders and capsules are useless because they are destroyed by stomach > acid before they reach your intestine. Spores do. > I've been adding extra powder to my cottage cheese/ flax oil > homogenized mix. Am I, and millions, wasting out time. > > Powder, capsules, or spores (expensively sold by LEF only) > What's the best? Rhoda > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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