Kelley method -- pancreatin ULTRASE question

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Is anyone familiar with Ultrase? Our alternative doc has my husband on 2 of these 3 times a day which is a pancreatic enzyme as well. He says there is no comparison to Ultase, which is a prescription, and Wobenzyme. I am curious to know what anyone in the group has for information on this enzyme. Thanks, Marva

 

 

 

In a message dated 1/11/2009 1:40:52 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, drlanphier writes:

 

 

 

 

 

 

I use, both professtionall and personally, a pancreatic enzyme that contains a-Chymotrypsin. In my opinion Univase Forte is about 20% better than Wobenzyme. It is also what I took during the cancer protocol that I followed to get well. We currently carry the 200 count bottle but can special order the 400 count bottle.

 

http://www.oasisadvancedwellness.com/products/univase-forte.html

 

Warm Regards,

 

Loretta Lanphier, ND, CN, HHP, CHwww.oasisadvancedwellness.com | Oasis Serene | Lanique Botanicals

 

In browsing the web looking for information on the Kelley method, it

appears that he relied heavily on metabolic type testing

and "pancreatin".

 

In looking at the pancreatin supplements available, they seem to be

missing one that Dr Kelley recommended. The ones available all seen to

contain the same three enzymes: trypsin, amalase, and lipase.

 

But I believe that Kelley had one more: chymotripsin. He claims it was

forced off the market?

 

Is pancreatin still a good idea, despite the missing enzyme? I try to

be a vegetarian, and have not eaten pork in years and years, but should

I be taking the porcine pancreatin for the best effect?

 

 

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Thank you Loretta

 

 

In a message dated 1/11/2009 4:21:35 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, drlanphier writes:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Other ingredients: povidone, talc, sugar, methacrylic acid copolymer (Type C), triethyl citrate, simethicone emulsion.This is what usually happens and what will happen as Big Pharma tries to get into natural medicine (CODEX). They call these “inactive†ingredients which is really not being truthful, in my opinion. They do not believe that chemicals or additives are harmful thus why prescription meds are full of chemicals. One can Google each one to see if it is something you want to put into your body.

 

 

Be Well~Loretta Lanphier, ND, CN, HHP, CHOasis Advanced Wellness | Oasis Serene | Lanique Botanicals

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Is anyone familiar with Ultrase? Our alternative doc has my husband on 2 of these 3 times a day which is a pancreatic enzyme as well. He says there is no comparison to Ultase, which is a prescription, and Wobenzyme. I am curious to know what anyone in the group has for information on this enzyme. Thanks, Marva

 

 

 

 

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Other ingredients: povidone, talc, sugar, methacrylic acid

copolymer (Type C), triethyl citrate, simethicone emulsion.

 

This is what usually happens and what will happen as Big Pharma tries to get

into natural medicine (CODEX). They call these “inactive”

ingredients which is really not being truthful, in my opinion. They do not

believe that chemicals or additives are harmful thus why prescription meds are

full of chemicals. One can Google each one to see if it is something you

want to put into your body.

 

 

Be Well~

 

Loretta Lanphier, ND, CN, HHP, CH

Oasis Advanced Wellness | Oasis Serene

| Lanique

Botanicals

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Is anyone familiar with Ultrase? Our alternative doc

has my husband on 2 of these 3 times a day which is a pancreatic enzyme as

well. He says there is no comparison to Ultase, which is a prescription,

and Wobenzyme. I am curious to know what anyone in the group

has for information on this enzyme. Thanks, Marva

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I don't know your doctor and do not want to judge unfairly - but too damn many doctors are calling themselves alternative and then playing the mainstream game of prescribing drug that have unnatural and dangerous ingredients. In the same way, so-called integrative doctors are all too often doctors who choose mainstream first and use nature and alternatives second or complimentary only after selecting a mainstream main menu.

In both cases it is just mainstream lite and a managed illness that brings you back again and again.

Your doctor is right - there is no comparison. Wobenzyme is much safer and the Oasis product of Dr. Lanphiers is safer and even better than Wobenzyme.

Talc? Good grief, talc - as in talcum powder - is a carcinogen (don't use it ladies - it can cause ovarian and breast cancer! And don't let your men put it on or near their genitals either. That can cause YOU to get ovarian cancer.).

I'm guessing that your doctor does not make a commission from selling Wobenzyme.

oleander soup , dgdavid1 wrote:>> Is anyone familiar with Ultrase? Our alternative doc has my husband on 2 of > these 3 times a day which is a pancreatic enzyme as well. He says there is > no comparison to Ultase, which is a prescription, and Wobenzyme. I am > curious to know what anyone in the group has for information on this enzyme. > Thanks, Marva> > > > In a message dated 1/11/2009 1:40:52 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, > drlanphier writes:> > > > > > I use, both professtionall and personally, a pancreatic enzyme that contains > a-Chymotrypsin. In my opinion Univase Forte is about 20% better than > Wobenzyme. It is also what I took during the cancer protocol that I followed to > get well. We currently carry the 200 count bottle but can special order the 400 > count bottle. > _http://www.oasisadvhttp://www.oashttp://www.oahttp://www.oashttp_ > (http://www.oasisadvancedwellness.com/products/univase-forte.html) > Warm Regards, > Loretta Lanphier, ND, CN, HHP, CH> _www.oasisadvancedwewww.oasisa_ > (mip://03eceb88/www.oasisadvancedwellness.com) | _Oasis Serene_ (http://www.oasisserene.com/) | _Lanique Botanicals_ > (http://www.skin-care-support.org/) > > > > > In browsing the web looking for information on the Kelley method, it > appears that he relied heavily on metabolic type testing > and "pancreatin". > In looking at the pancreatin supplements available, they seem to be > missing one that Dr Kelley recommended. The ones available all seen to > contain the same three enzymes: trypsin, amalase, and lipase. > But I believe that Kelley had one more: chymotripsin. He claims it was > forced off the market? > Is pancreatin still a good idea, despite the missing enzyme? I try to > be a vegetarian, and have not eaten pork in years and years, but should > I be taking the porcine pancreatin for the best effect? > > > > > **************New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making > headlines. (http://news.aol.com?ncid=emlcntusnews00000002)>

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Tony,

 

I hope i don't violate your rules. Just want to be helpful.

 

Here is something i found at the Weston Price Foundation. Carica Papaya (pawpaw) contains an enzyme better than pancreatin. Also the tea instruction is the same that is/was used by cancer victims like Stan Sheldon of Australia.

 

The pancreatin info is in the text authored by Dr. J.

Whitman Ray.

 

Melly ------- PAPAYA (PAWPAW)Carica papayaPapaya originated from tropical American countries and is now grown worldwide. Even though it is a tropical plant it may be grown with success as an indoor plant in colder climates. The leaves, fruit, skin, seeds, flowers, latex and roots may be used in a variety of concoctions. The leaves may be dried, (24C) stored in a cool dry place and used as a herbal tea. The fruit may be sliced, dried in a dehydrator (24C) and stored as for any other dried fruit. The flesh of the mature green papaya is very high in papain (an enzyme that is used in a dried form to tenderise meat). Papain and other plant enzymes are able to tolerate a wide range of PH so that they are able to work both in an acid stomach and an alkaline small intestine. The flesh of the mature green papaya may be used to assist in the digestion, thereby taking pressure of the pancreas. It is

reported that the enzymes in papaya are able to digest undigested debris in the intestinal tract. The enzymes in papaya are used to ripen the fruit so that by the time a papaya is fully ripe, very few enzymes are left.It goes without saying that the papaya be grown without the use of pesticides or chemicals, especially if you are going to use the leaves or the skin or the fruit.Papaya SproutsThe seeds of ripe papaya are very easy to germinate. Just bury them about 1/2 inch under good composted soil in a planter box or directly in the garden. If the weather is warm they will germinate in less than a week. If you live in a cold climate then place the planter box in a warm place (30C) , such as on top of a water heater. When the plants reach about 20cm high they may be harvested and the entire plant used to make a tea, added to sauerkraut, or blended in a banana smoothie.Papaya Tea (Used by cancer patients too - Melly)Chop up

three leaves and cook in one litre of water. Simmer until the water is reduced to half, strain and store in the refrigerator. Fifty ml, three times a day is considered to be a therapeutic dose. For preventative measures it is used in much the same way that the Japanese drink green tea.Papaya tea goes off within about 3 days so if you do not have a fresh supply then you may consider preserving the leaves and fruit either by drying or lacto-fermentation.Papaya PepperThe seeds may be dried in a dehydrator then ground in a mortar and pestle, and used like pepper.Papaya SauerkrautThe flesh of the mature green papaya makes a pleasantly bitter sauerkraut. For therapeutic purposes the skin may be left on but it will make it very bitter. The skin is reputed to have the same beneficial effects as the leaves.Kombucha Papaya TeaPapaya tea may be used in place of black tea to make a Kombucha tea. The papaya tea extract may also be

preserved by mixing one part papaya tea with three parts of Kombucha tea. You may also preserve the peel of the mature green papaya in Kombucha tea that has gone to vinegar.Papaya SmoothiePapaya smoothies are very easy to make. Just blend ripe papaya with banana and your choice of fruits such as passion fruit or orange. Add raw milk or kefir for additional nutrition and flavour.For added health benefits, instead of a ripe papaya, use mature green papaya with or without the skin. As mature green papaya may be quite hard, it may help to grate the green papaya before blending it.Ripe papaya also makes a delicious desert. Chop the papaya into 1 inch cubes then sprinkle with lemon juice.Illnesses And Their Traditional Treatment with PapayaHarald Tietze lists about fifty ailments, including cancer, that respond well to papaya. You may wish to do an internet search for more information on Stan Sheldon who claims he cured himself and

others of cancer with papaya.CautionsIn rare cases people have been allergic to the pollen of papaya. The latex from the plant or green fruit may burn the lips. Pregnant women should avoid recipes containing unripe fruit, skins, leaves, seeds or latex since this may lead to an abortion. Over dosing may have negative effects. Women from traditional societies used papaya as a contraceptive.Reference: Harald W. Tietze, Papaya (Pawpaw) The Medicine Tree 2nd edition, 1997. ______12 Points on MATURE GREEN PAPAYA (PAWPAW)Written and compiled by Dr John Whitman Ray N.D., M.D. (M.A.)1. Mature Green Papaya (Pawpaw) contains an excellent source of enzymes, minerals and vitamins. Mature Green Papaya contains more Vitamin A than carrots, more Vitamin C than oranges, abundant Vitamin B factors and Vitamin E. Mature Green Papaya also contains a complex of' enzymes that help digest proteins,

carbohydrates and fats. The Mature Green Papaya (Pawpaw) should be used totally with skin, flesh and seeds. The papaya should be chemical free. The papain in the entire pawpaw observed as a white sap or fluid is not found in the ripe pawpaw. Blend the Mature Green Pawpaw with other fresh fruits to make a splendid flavoured smoothie drink which, when consumed at the time of blending will be full of enzymes which will be of maximum benefit to the consistent user. 2. Papain is the principal and most active enzyme in the Mature Green Papaya. Papain possesses a very powerful digestive action superior to pepsin and pancreatin. Changes in intestinal alkalinity or acidity do not interfere with the unique digestive activity of papain. Papain breaks down meat fibres, thereby rendering nutrients available to the digestive process'. This emphasized the need for papain in the diet of

meat eaters as well as vegetarians. 3. Papain, one of the most powerful plant proteolytic enzymes, is a catalytic agent that will act in protein digestion in an acid, alkaline or neutral medium. This is of vital importance for those with enzyme deficiency problems as well as for those with low hydrochloric acid output in the stomach. Remember, the pepsin produced in the stomach required for protein digestion is activated only in an acid medium. This requires a healthy output of hydrochloric acid, which is insufficient in most people. Due to the powerful proteolytic action of papain, a more active protein digestant than pepsin, a major digestive problem for most people will be helped by the daily ingestion of Mature Green Papaya.4. A major problem in our diets today is that we only partially digest the protein foods we consume. This is due in part to the insufficient hydrochloric acid output by the stomach. These partially digested proteins help

attribute to rnucoprotein build up in the body. This is due to the undigested protein molecules making their way into the system and eventually finding their way into the interstitial spaces and accumulating there as mucoprotein, as polysaccharide-protein combination. This mucoprotein is also known as trapped plasma protein. The proteolytic action of' papain can digest the protein we consume so that the accumulation of trapped plasma protein can be prevented. The accumulation of mucoprotein in the interstitial spaces and lymphatic system is the basic cause of lymphatic congestion. 5. Mature Green Papaya possesses antiseptic qualities and helps prevent the abnormal proliferation of undesirable bacteria in the intestines. The pH of the intestines is then kept normalized with the addition of acidophilus which aids in normalizing the intestinal flora. 6. Papain, found abundantly in the Mature Green Papaya (pawpaw), acts as a powerful mucus

and pus solvent. Papain helps to cleanse the tissues and intestinal walls of all waste matter in the form of excessive mucus and dead tissue. Papain in the whole papaya or in the Mature Green Papaya is harmless to living tissue and is a must for the maintenance of health in the intestinal tract. 7. In scientific studies using papain as a digestant, it has been established that proteins are "actually chemically transformed into all the various amino acids that are so vital to human nutrition". Papain has the property to transform albumanoids into peptones in either an acid, alkaline or neutral medium, making it superior to pepsin. 8. Arginine, one of the essential amino acids, is not normally produced within the body, but must be obtained as a component of a few foods such as eggs and brewer's yeast. These foods must be eaten with some regularity if the reproductive organs are to function properly. However, when papain is allowed to act

upon many kinds of proteins it has a singular distinctive power of converting a portion of the protein mass to arginine, even in the intestine. 9. This unique ability of papain to break down protein and to convert a portion of it into arginine is extremely important because arginine in its natural form has been found to influence the production of the human growth hormone or HGH. HGH is produced in the pituitary gland and is directly responsible for DNA and RNA replication as well as synthesis in liver, muscle, cartilage and adipose tissues. Arginine ingested in connection with exercise has been found to raise the production of HGH significantly. This HGH helps to increase muscle tone and decrease the amount of body fat. Arginine has also been found to inhibit the growth of human breast cancer cells in test tube studies. 10. The papain in the Mature Green Papaya (pawpaw) works to break down various protein foods so that the

individual amino acids are produced and auto-intoxicating or other undesirable, undigested substances are avoided. High blood pressure, constipation, arthritis, epilepsy , and diabetes are only a few of the ailments aggravated by incomplete protein digestion. While the presence of papain may not always prevent these abnormalities, it has the power to help regulate these abnormalities through proper digestion. 11. The Mature Green Papaya (pawpaw) contains several enzymes in addition to the papain used for protein digestion. Carbohydrates and fat digestion can be accomplished by the enzymes found in the Mature Green Papaya. These papaya enzymes have the ability to infiltrate the tissues. By this means, it can help dissolve injured and hardened tissues, thus tending to alleviate hardening of the arteries. In scientific studies using proteolytic enzymes it has been fully established that the immune system is greatly

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I am changing to Lorretta's this week Tony. You certainly convinced me.

And I thank you for opening my eyes once again. Wow what a learning process for this old brain.

All of you just keep on teaching me new information and I cannot thank you enough. As for our doctor I believe he thinks he is doing the right thing and has an open mind when I bring him information.

 

Thanks everyone,

Marva

 

 

In a message dated 1/11/2009 9:49:15 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, writes:

 

 

 

 

 

I don't know your doctor and do not want to judge unfairly - but too damn many doctors are calling themselves alternative and then playing the mainstream game of prescribing drug that have unnatural and dangerous ingredients. In the same way, so-called integrative doctors are all too often doctors who choose mainstream first and use nature and alternatives second or complimentary only after selecting a mainstream main menu.

In both cases it is just mainstream lite and a managed illness that brings you back again and again.

Your doctor is right - there is no comparison. Wobenzyme is much safer and the Oasis product of Dr. Lanphiers is safer and even better than Wobenzyme.

Talc? Good grief, talc - as in talcum powder - is a carcinogen (don't use it ladies - it can cause ovarian and breast cancer! And don't let your men put it on or near their genitals either. That can cause YOU to get ovarian cancer.).

I'm guessing that your doctor does not make a commission from selling Wobenzyme.

oleander soup , dgdavid1 wrote:>> Is anyone familiar with Ultrase? Our alternative doc has my husband on 2 of > these 3 times a day which is a pancreatic enzyme as well. He says there is > no comparison to Ultase, which is a prescription, and Wobenzyme. I am > curious to know what anyone in the group has for information on this enzyme. > Thanks, Marva> > > > In a message dated 1/11/2009 1:40:52 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, > drlanphier writes:> > > > > > I use, both professtionall and personally, a pancreatic enzyme that contains > a-Chymotrypsin. In my opinion Univase Forte is about 20% better than > Wobenzyme. It is also what I took during the cancer protocol that I followed to > get well. We currently carry the 200 count bottle but can special order the 400 > count bottle. > _http://www.oasisadvhttp://www.oashttp://www.oahttp://www.oashttp_ > (http://www.oasisadvancedwellness.com/products/univase-forte.html) > Warm Regards, > Loretta Lanphier, ND, CN, HHP, CH> _www.oasisadvancedwewww.oasisa_ > (mip://03eceb88/www.oasisadvancedwellness.com) | _Oasis Serene_ (http://www.oasisserene.com/) | _Lanique Botanicals_ > (http://www.skin-care-support.org/) > > > > > In browsing the web looking for information on the Kelley method, it > appears that he relied heavily on metabolic type testing > and "pancreatin". > In looking at the pancreatin supplements available, they seem to be > missing one that Dr Kelley recommended. The ones available all seen to > contain the same three enzymes: trypsin, amalase, and lipase. > But I believe that Kelley had one more: chymotripsin. He claims it wa s > forced off the market? > Is pancreatin still a good idea, despite the missing enzyme? I try to > be a vegetarian, and have not eaten pork in years and years, but should > I be taking the porcine pancreatin for the best effect? > > > > > **************New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making > headlines. (http://news.aol.com?ncid=emlcntusnews00000002)>

New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making headlines.