Specific suggestions for ovarian cancer

[Guest guest]

Dear Tony, thanks so much for finding specific supplements and dietary suggestions. The LDN for Cancer list has quite a bit to say about artemesenin. The complete protocol can be dangerous, and requires extensive blood testing. My very helpful onco will be out of town until early March. I'll do the research and have it ready for her, Perhaps we'll work in synch on it. It pulls iron out of cancer cells.

One thing, I get weak and crabby on a vegan diet, even with added B vitamins, nutritional yeast plus B12. Been eating a couple of eggs a week. What protein would be better? Fish? I make rice and lentils together; still insufficient protein.

You mention using agaricus and not cordyceps mushrooms for ovarian cancer. How interesting. I go to a free clinic where they looked up compounds for ovarian, and give me mushroom powders which I put into caps. They listed them all - in Chinese. Also, sometimes I take the Swanson equivalent of AHCC. Gotta check out which mushroom varieties are in it. Always more to learn.

Doing my best, but getting tired of fighting with no success. I can feel large tumors growing in my abdomen. Rhoda

[Guest guest]

Rhoda,

 

RIce and beans are a complete protein, especially if you are using brown rice. Chlorella is another veg source of complete protein, and it even has B12 too. Spirulina is another source. Fish is a great source but stay away from carniverous fish such as tuna, shark, swordfish as they contain alot of mercury. Artimisinin kills cancer cells by oxidizing the iron in the cancer cell, thus killing it. That is how it cures malaria as well, by reacting with iron in the parasite. If I had ovarian cancer and oleander wasn't getting the job done I would without question start on a protocol of an escharotic such as BCGG, Vitae Elixxir, Cansema, etc. If you wish, contact Ralph Schauss at 307-266-5310. He can fill you in on how to use BCGG and the Elixxir. Very potent herbal chemotherapy and I KNOW it kills cancer cells selectively.

 

Bob

 

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Rhoda Mead

oleander soup

Tuesday, January 06, 2009 10:21 PM

Specific suggestions for ovarian cancer

Dear Tony, thanks so much for finding specific supplements and dietary suggestions. The LDN for Cancer list has quite a bit to say about artemesenin. The complete protocol can be dangerous, and requires extensive blood testing. My very helpful onco will be out of town until early March. I'll do the research and have it ready for her, Perhaps we'll work in synch on it. It pulls iron out of cancer cells.One thing, I get weak and crabby on a vegan diet, even with added B vitamins, nutritional yeast plus B12. Been eating a couple of eggs a week. What protein would be better? Fish? I make rice and lentils together; still insufficient protein.You mention using agaricus and not cordyceps mushrooms for ovarian cancer. How interesting. I go to a free clinic where they looked up compounds for ovarian, and give me mushroom powders which I put into caps. They listed them all - in Chinese. Also, sometimes I take the Swanson equivalent of AHCC. Gotta check out which mushroom varieties are in it. Always more to learn.Doing my best, but getting tired of fighting with no success. I can feel large tumors growing in my abdomen. Rhoda

[Guest guest]

Rhoda -

Artemesin was not one of my main suggested items anyway - it was just listed among other items to consider.

Take a good look at the main items I listed. One of the main considerations in beating any cancer is stopping the growth and spread of the tumors and several of those items appear to have qualities that help do that. From what you describe, stopping the growth should be a prime consideration.

I do not recommend a strict vegetarian diet for anyone, especially not someone who has an estrogen related cancer such as breast cancer or ovarian cancer. Too hard to get the essential fatty acids and the B12 and folic acid one needs to help other supplements and cancer fighters work properly. Not saying one cannot do so with a strict vegetarian diet, just not something I recommend.

I like Bob's suggestions by the way.

As for eggs, egg yolks are not recommended for ovarian cancer as there has been as association between the cholesterol from egg yolks (and only egg yolks) and ovarian cancer.

Cordyceps is a good mushroom for many cancers, but I read where it is specifically not recommended for ovarian cancer. I really like the ABM mushroom.

oleander soup , "Rhoda Mead" <hummingbird541 wrote:>> *Dear Tony, thanks so much for finding specific supplements and dietary> suggestions.> > The LDN for Cancer list has quite a bit to say about artemesenin. The> complete protocol can be dangerous, and requires extensive blood testing. My> very helpful onco will be out of town until early March. I'll do the> research and have it ready for her, Perhaps we'll work in synch on it. It> pulls iron out of cancer cells.> > One thing, I get weak and crabby on a vegan diet, even with added B> vitamins, nutritional yeast plus B12. Been eating a couple of eggs a week.> What protein would be better? Fish? I make rice and lentils together; still> insufficient protein.> > You mention using agaricus and not cordyceps mushrooms for ovarian cancer.> How interesting. I go to a free clinic where they looked up compounds for> ovarian, and give me mushroom powders which I put into caps. They listed> them all - in Chinese. Also, sometimes I take the Swanson equivalent of> AHCC. Gotta check out which mushroom varieties are in it. Always more to> learn.> > Doing my best, but getting tired of fighting with no success. I can feel> large tumors growing in my abdomen. Rhoda> > *>

[Guest guest]

I thought I had read quite a bit about artemisnin, and I don't

remember reading anything about it being exceptionally dangerous or

requiring blood tests. Did I miss something? I mean, cesium

chloride is dangerous, but artemisinin???

 

The protocols I read on the LDN board mainly involved taking two

Artemix pills every night on an empty stomach, preferably along with

butyrate and maybe a teaspoon of coconut oil. For some reason, gut

absorption goes way down after a few days, so the suggestion is

to " pulse " artemisinin with 5 days on, and a few days off.

 

I'm getting heavily into this stuff because I have colon cancer, and

the two cancers it is most effective against (due to high iron

contents of the cancers) is colon cancer and leukemia. Did I miss

reading about the dangers?

 

 

oleander soup , " Rhoda Mead "

<hummingbird541 wrote:

>

> *Dear Tony, thanks so much for finding specific supplements and

dietary

> suggestions.

>

> The LDN for Cancer list has quite a bit to say about artemesenin.

The

> complete protocol can be dangerous, and requires extensive blood

testing. My

> very helpful onco will be out of town until early March. I'll do the

> research and have it ready for her, Perhaps we'll work in synch on

it. It

> pulls iron out of cancer cells.

>

> One thing, I get weak and crabby on a vegan diet, even with added B

> vitamins, nutritional yeast plus B12. Been eating a couple of eggs

a week.

> What protein would be better? Fish? I make rice and lentils

together; still

> insufficient protein.

>

> You mention using agaricus and not cordyceps mushrooms for ovarian

cancer.

> How interesting. I go to a free clinic where they looked up

compounds for

> ovarian, and give me mushroom powders which I put into caps. They

listed

> them all - in Chinese. Also, sometimes I take the Swanson

equivalent of

> AHCC. Gotta check out which mushroom varieties are in it. Always

more to

> learn.

>

> Doing my best, but getting tired of fighting with no success. I can

feel

> large tumors growing in my abdomen. Rhoda

>

> *

>

[Guest guest]

jrrjim,

 

No, I haven't read of the dangers either.

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" jrrjim " <jim.mcelroy10

<oleander soup >

Wednesday, January 07, 2009 12:11 AM

Re: Specific suggestions for ovarian cancer

 

 

>I thought I had read quite a bit about artemisnin, and I don't

> remember reading anything about it being exceptionally dangerous or

> requiring blood tests. Did I miss something? I mean, cesium

> chloride is dangerous, but artemisinin???

>

> The protocols I read on the LDN board mainly involved taking two

> Artemix pills every night on an empty stomach, preferably along with

> butyrate and maybe a teaspoon of coconut oil. For some reason, gut

> absorption goes way down after a few days, so the suggestion is

> to " pulse " artemisinin with 5 days on, and a few days off.

>

> I'm getting heavily into this stuff because I have colon cancer, and

> the two cancers it is most effective against (due to high iron

> contents of the cancers) is colon cancer and leukemia. Did I miss

> reading about the dangers?

>

>

> oleander soup , " Rhoda Mead "

> <hummingbird541 wrote:

>>

>> *Dear Tony, thanks so much for finding specific supplements and

> dietary

>> suggestions.

>>

>> The LDN for Cancer list has quite a bit to say about artemesenin.

> The

>> complete protocol can be dangerous, and requires extensive blood

> testing. My

>> very helpful onco will be out of town until early March. I'll do the

>> research and have it ready for her, Perhaps we'll work in synch on

> it. It

>> pulls iron out of cancer cells.

>>

>> One thing, I get weak and crabby on a vegan diet, even with added B

>> vitamins, nutritional yeast plus B12. Been eating a couple of eggs

> a week.

>> What protein would be better? Fish? I make rice and lentils

> together; still

>> insufficient protein.

>>

>> You mention using agaricus and not cordyceps mushrooms for ovarian

> cancer.

>> How interesting. I go to a free clinic where they looked up

> compounds for

>> ovarian, and give me mushroom powders which I put into caps. They

> listed

>> them all - in Chinese. Also, sometimes I take the Swanson

> equivalent of

>> AHCC. Gotta check out which mushroom varieties are in it. Always

> more to

>> learn.

>>

>> Doing my best, but getting tired of fighting with no success. I can

> feel

>> large tumors growing in my abdomen. Rhoda

>>

>> *

>>

>

>

>

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>

>

[Guest guest]

Artemisinin therapy is not dangerous, does not require extensive blood testing, and does not "pull iron out of cancer cells".

The main drawbacks of arte therapy are that: 1) It is not a "stand alone" for cancer. 2) It has to be given intermittently, not continuously. 3) It has to be given with fat, on an empty stomach, away from antioxidants and iron containing foods.

 

Mike

 

 

 

Rhoda Mead <hummingbird541oleander soup Sent: Wednesday, January 7, 2009 12:21:13 AM Specific suggestions for ovarian cancer

 

Dear Tony, thanks so much for finding specific supplements and dietary suggestions. The LDN for Cancer list has quite a bit to say about artemesenin. The complete protocol can be dangerous, and requires extensive blood testing. My very helpful onco will be out of town until early March. I'll do the research and have it ready for her, Perhaps we'll work in synch on it. It pulls iron out of cancer cells.One thing, I get weak and crabby on a vegan diet, even with added B vitamins, nutritional yeast plus B12. Been eating a couple of eggs a week. What protein would be better? Fish? I make rice and lentils together; still insufficient protein.You mention using agaricus and not cordyceps mushrooms for ovarian cancer. How interesting. I go to a free clinic where they looked up compounds for ovarian, and give me mushroom powders which I put into caps. They listed them all - in Chinese. Also, sometimes I take the Swanson equivalent of

AHCC. Gotta check out which mushroom varieties are in it. Always more to learn.Doing my best, but getting tired of fighting with no success. I can feel large tumors growing in my abdomen. Rhoda