EPA uses nanotech regulation ploy to target colloidal silver while ignoring all

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Below is an article explaining why the EPA has ruled nanoparticles to be a pesticide and further explains the war being waged against colloidal silver:EPA uses nanotech regulation ploy to target colloidal silver while ignoring all other nanotech particles

Nanomaterials -- products and materials changed or created at the

atomic and molecular level -- are quickly gaining popularity for their

multitude of uses, and while the Environmental Protection Agency is

preparing to regulate popular nanosilver antibacterial products,

ostensibly to protect consumers, critics say the move is a thinly

veiled attempt to solely regulate nanosilver as a health supplement.

Nanosilver is used to kill harmful bacteria in food storage

containers, shoe liners, washing machines and even bandages. Particles

of nanosilver and other nanomaterials can be as small as one-millionth

the size of a pinhead. However, the EPA, citing pressure from silver

industry workers and environmental groups such as Natural Resources

Defense Council, is investigating whether silver ions could pose an

environmental threat by killing beneficial bacteria in the environment,

or even harming humans. The agency also received a letter from Chuck

Weir, chairman of a California wastewater treatment plant advisory

group known as Tri-TAC, which claimed "silver is highly toxic to

aquatic life at low concentrations and also bioaccumulates in some

aquatic organisms, such as clams."

 

Silver was brought under close EPA

scrutiny when washing machine manufacturers began making models that

were lined with silver ions or sprayed them onto the clothes as an

antibacterial agent. Last year, the EPA decided that the machines

should not be regulated under the Federal Insecticide, Fungicide and

Rodenticide Act, since they were considered devices rather than

pesticides. Recently, however, the agency re-examined its decision and

reversed it.

"We took a second look at the release of silver ions, and it was very

clear that this is a pesticide and not a device," Jim Jones, director

of the EPA's Office of Pesticide Programs, told the Washington Post.

"Our original determination proved not to be a correct one."

Under the regulations, any silver product that claims it has

antibacterial properties must prove the product is safe to be released

into the environment. Mike Adams, a consumer health advocate and

proponent of colloidal silver, suggested the regulations might work better were they aimed at antibiotics and pharmaceuticals.

"Isn't it interesting that the EPA chooses to completely ignore the

environmental safety of all the millions of tons of pharmaceuticals

flushed down toilets every year while selectively targeting silver

products?" he said. "Why isn't the EPA concerned about the

environmental toxicity of pharmaceuticals?"

A major point of contention for silver proponents is the fact that only

products making antibacterial claims are subject to regulation. Jones'

commented that, "Unless you're making a claim to kill a pest, you're

not a pesticide." This decision has caused a severe backlash since it

was announced Nov. 22, but not from washing machine manufacturers.

Advocates of the use of silver in health have expressed outrage that

the EPA has become involved and made this a safety issue, as their

decision directly affects sellers whose silver products claim any

antibacterial benefits.

"People have used silver flatware, and in the past silver

coins, for thousands of years, releasing silver into the environment

with no question of harm," said New Jersey lawyer Ralph Fucetola, who

runs the Committee for the Responsible Use of Silver in Health (CRUSH)

and the www.SilverFacts.com

website. "The EPA will require proof of the safety of silver in the

environment only if the companies make germ-killing claims," said

Fucetola. "They are only concerned about safety if the public is being

given information about benefits."

 

Fucetola, who is known as the Vitamin Lawyer

for his work in the realm of dietary supplements, said CRUSH was

developed to prevent irresponsible use of silver in health -- with

special focus on ingested silver -- from both sides of the equation;

both entities that would off-handedly disparage silver's benefits and

those who would exaggerate them for profit.

"This is not a regulation designed to protect the environment from nanotechnology,

it's a stealth ploy that selectively attempts to remove colloidal

silver from the marketplace," Adams said. "Silver was gaining momentum

in the marketplace as a safe, effective and natural antibacterial

element. It cannot be patented and directly competes with antibiotics, antibacterial cleaners and other products from powerful corporations. That's why Big Business had to knock colloidal silver off track and regulate it out of the marketplace."

 

Fucetola noted there is a conflict between the EPA's decision and its own safety data on silver.

 

"EPA public records show that for ingested silver there is a safe level

of use, known as the Reference Dose (RfD), determined by science as the

safe daily amount for consumers," he said. "The guidelines make it

clear that the only concern for the RfD is for the potential for the

skin discoloration known as argyria. You would have to consume so much

silver that it would discolor your skin before there would be any

safety concerns."

Agyria, the most common health concern associated with silver,

is a permanent yet medically benign conditioned marked by discoloration

of the skin, usually brought on prolonged exposure to large amounts of

the substance.

The EPA considers silver a water contaminant, but its Office of Drinking Water decided in the early 1990s that the effects of silver exposure in drinking water

were cosmetic, and therefore downgraded the substance from a primary

contaminant level to a secondary contaminant level. Additionally, the

U.S. Centers for Disease control reports that spills of silver less than 1,000 pounds are not required to be reported to the EPA.

 

"If the EPA were to take the position that all nanosilver products had

to qualify as 'safe and effective,' it would be acting contrary to its

own long history of determining scientifically valid RfDs," Fucetola

said. "Silver is spread throughout the environment already. Taking

silver from the environment, using it and having some of it return to

the environment is no different than the use of any other metal from

the environment, whether iron, copper, or whatever."

Another factor that is drawing anger from silver proponents is

the seeming focus of regulations on nanosilver to the exclusion of

other nanomaterials. Indeed, the majority of nanomaterials will not be

subject to EPA scrutiny, as they do not make any antibacterial claims.

"Consider this," said Adams. "Out of all the countless

nanotechnology particles used in sun lotion, clothing and cookware, the

EPA has decided to regulate only one -- colloidal silver, which is a

naturally-occurring mineral. In doing so, the EPA ignores all the

synthetic nanoparticles introduced into the environment through

consumer products made by Big Business."

"'Nanosilver' is the sexy new term for ionic silver," said Jay

Newman, CRUSH member and president of supplement maker Invision

International, in a press release. "Yet the imperative for an efficient

delivery mechanism for human use is still the bottom line."

Newman said in a NaturalNews interview that free silver ions

are needed to have an antimicrobial effect, but the ions will

automatically bond with chlorine if they find their way into common

drinking water, thereby rendering the ions inert.

"Our patented Silver100 is a perfect case in point, where it

took many years of development and achieved patent protection because

it has a specific molecular structure to control the release of silver

ions in microbial forms," he said. "Once that occurs, the silver ions

do not hang around. That's just the way the chemistry works.

"All appearances are that the EPA has been succumbing to corporate

pressure of vested interests that do not want to see the word get out

that silver has these benefits," Newman said. "I remain optimistic that

the EPA will have the ethics and responsibility to let science prevail

and that this will go away as quickly as it emerged."

[Guest guest]

If they ban colloidal silver products, we can still easily make our owm.

 

oleander soup , " May " <luellamay129

wrote:

>

> Below is an article explaining why the EPA has ruled nanoparticles to

be

> a pesticide and further explains the war being waged against colloidal

> silver:

>

> EPA uses nanotech regulation ploy to target colloidal silver while

> ignoring all other nanotech particles Nanomaterials -- products and

> materials changed or created at the atomic and molecular level --

[Guest guest]

I do not know the accuracy of this, but there is talk in some circles that generators will only be allowed to be sold until March 23rd of this year. I have been doing research but so far have found no concrete evidence of this fact. This may be the time to buy a generator if you don't own one and of course, I recommend the best, the Silver Bullet made by Utopia Silver . If you do opt for this, don't forget to use Code LR001 for a 15% discount and they also have an offer with this purchase that if you still want to buy their advanced colloidal silver you will get one bottle free for every bottle purchased indefinitely. I don't mean to sound like a commercial, but I would like anyone who chooses to do this to get all the benefits.I really hope it does not come to this, but this move by the EPA could be the beginning of something quite serious. Hopefully, it will somehow be overruled or thwarted.oleander soup , "jrrjim" <jim.mcelroy10 wrote:>> If they ban colloidal silver products, we can still easily make our owm.> > oleander soup , " May" luellamay129@ > wrote:> >> > Below is an article explaining why the EPA has ruled nanoparticles to > be> > a pesticide and further explains the war being waged against colloidal> > silver:> > > > EPA uses nanotech regulation ploy to target colloidal silver while> > ignoring all other nanotech particles Nanomaterials -- products and> > materials changed or created at the atomic and molecular level -->

[Guest guest]

As I understand it, the proposal is to ban/regulate generators as pesticides just like the product itself. Rediculous!

oleander soup , "jrrjim" <jim.mcelroy10 wrote:>> If they ban colloidal silver products, we can still easily make our owm.> > oleander soup , " May" luellamay129@ > wrote:> >> > Below is an article explaining why the EPA has ruled nanoparticles to > be> > a pesticide and further explains the war being waged against colloidal> > silver:> > > > EPA uses nanotech regulation ploy to target colloidal silver while> > ignoring all other nanotech particles Nanomaterials -- products and> > materials changed or created at the atomic and molecular level -->

[Guest guest]

I think plans for making your own generators could be easily posted

on the web, and said generators could be easily constructed.

 

oleander soup , " May " <luellamay129

wrote:

>

> I do not know the accuracy of this, but there is talk in some

circles

> that generators will only be allowed to be sold until March 23rd of

this

> year. I have been doing research but so far have found no concrete

> evidence of this fact. This may be the time to buy a generator if

you

> don't own one and of course, I recommend the best, the Silver Bullet

> made by Utopia Silver

> <http://www.utopiasilver.com/affiliates/jrox.php?id=77> . If you

do

> opt for this, don't forget to use Code LR001 for a 15% discount and

they

> also have an offer with this purchase that if you still want to buy

> their advanced colloidal silver you will get one bottle free for

every

> bottle purchased indefinitely. I don't mean to sound like a

commercial,

> but I would like anyone who chooses to do this to get all the

benefits.

>

> I really hope it does not come to this, but this move by the EPA

could

> be the beginning of something quite serious. Hopefully, it will

somehow

> be overruled or thwarted.

>

>

>

> oleander soup , " jrrjim " <jim.mcelroy10@>

wrote:

> >

> > If they ban colloidal silver products, we can still easily make

our

> owm.

> >

> > oleander soup , " May " luellamay129@

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Below is an article explaining why the EPA has ruled

nanoparticles

> to

> > be

> > > a pesticide and further explains the war being waged against

> colloidal

> > > silver:

> > >

> > > EPA uses nanotech regulation ploy to target colloidal silver

while

> > > ignoring all other nanotech particles Nanomaterials -- products

and

> > > materials changed or created at the atomic and molecular level -

-

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Here is the comment I submitted:

 

To Whom It May Concern,

I am concerned at the recent legislation that is being brought

forward to have silver products and supplements declared a pesticide.

This would not be a good use of the EPA and would severaly curtail

the freedom of the American people to exercise choice in the matter

of using colloidal silver products as supplements.

 

There seems to be way too much curtailing of personal freedoms in

these days. Some of the measures are good ones, such as the lead laws

and limiting carbon emmisions. Some of them, however, are restricting

of individuals' rights and freedoms to utilize things that cannot

harm others or the environment. I can only speculate that some big

business concern is using its clout to bring these types of

legislation forward.

 

As an American citizen who votes, I would like our elected

governmental representatives to thoughtfully consider the

implications of this type of legislation and the impact it would have

on individual freedom of choice in supplements that bring no harm to

anyone.

 

Sincerely,

 

Jill Lillis

[Guest guest]

Good for you!

 

 

oleander soup , " lillisilly " <evangelnet

wrote:

>

> Here is the comment I submitted:

>

> To Whom It May Concern,

> I am concerned at the recent legislation that is being brought

> forward to have silver products and supplements declared a

pesticide.

> This would not be a good use of the EPA and would severaly curtail

> the freedom of the American people to exercise choice in the matter

> of using colloidal silver products as supplements.

>

> There seems to be way too much curtailing of personal freedoms in

> these days. Some of the measures are good ones, such as the lead

laws

> and limiting carbon emmisions. Some of them, however, are

restricting

> of individuals' rights and freedoms to utilize things that cannot

> harm others or the environment. I can only speculate that some big

> business concern is using its clout to bring these types of

> legislation forward.

>

> As an American citizen who votes, I would like our elected

> governmental representatives to thoughtfully consider the

> implications of this type of legislation and the impact it would

have

> on individual freedom of choice in supplements that bring no harm

to

> anyone.

>

> Sincerely,

>

> Jill Lillis

>

[Guest guest]

Just wondering if anyone has seen this review on silver and its effects

on health/environment?

 

https://www.zsf.jcu.cz/jab/6_3/havel.pdf/

 

There's a lot of talk about argyria (which we know can occur from

inferior, poor quality c.s.) but there's also a few other bits and

pieces that would lead most people to the conclusion that nano silver

can potentially be quite damaging.

I'm assuming that the majority of the info is B.S. Is there any truth

here at all?

[Guest guest]

I could not get the link to open. The window I got specified that access was only allowed to a few people?In any event, from what you state, I would surmise that the article is another piece of BS. There is a war being waged on natural supplements and right now colloidal silver seems to be at the forefront. The best way to discourage people from using or doing anything is to scare them. And fear works. If we are not informed, we will believe anything. oleander soup , "simonflynn22" <simon041082 wrote:>> > Just wondering if anyone has seen this review on silver and its effects > on health/environment?> > https://www.zsf.jcu.cz/jab/6_3/havel.pdf/> > There's a lot of talk about argyria (which we know can occur from > inferior, poor quality c.s.) but there's also a few other bits and > pieces that would lead most people to the conclusion that nano silver > can potentially be quite damaging.> I'm assuming that the majority of the info is B.S. Is there any truth > here at all?>

[Guest guest]

.

I was watching the movie Sicko last night by Michael Moore.

And some people in France said the same thing you are saying, The American Government tries to scared its people without information or explonation, wile the french Government its afraid of its people.

The only think i'm afraid of is, that if they stop produsing colloidal Silver what i'm going to do without, i dont believe colloidal Silver is dangerous, but if the people dont know and believed those hocus pocus power hungry mogouls, we the people will be the loosers.

What a waste.

 

Hugs Mary

 

-

May

oleander soup

Thursday, January 08, 2009 12:17 PM

Re: EPA uses nanotech regulation ploy to target colloidal silver while ignoring all

 

 

I could not get the link to open. The window I got specified that access was only allowed to a few people?In any event, from what you state, I would surmise that the article is another piece of BS. There is a war being waged on natural supplements and right now colloidal silver seems to be at the forefront. The best way to discourage people from using or doing anything is to scare them. And fear works. If we are not informed, we will believe anything. oleander soup , "simonflynn22" <simon041082 wrote:>> > Just wondering if anyone has seen this review on silver and its effects > on health/environment?> > https://www.zsf.jcu.cz/jab/6_3/havel.pdf/> > There's a lot of talk about argyria (which we know can occur from > inferior, poor quality c.s.) but there's also a few other bits and > pieces that would lead most people to the conclusion that nano silver > can potentially be quite damaging.> I'm assuming that the majority of the info is B.S. Is there any truth > here at all?>

[Guest guest]

Hi Mary,And he is so right. Unfortunately too many people trust the wrong source and will believe what they are told. They are blind and uneducated. Yet, how sad, the very ones who should be guiding, protecting, and leading us to safety, are the ones leading us astray. Colloidal silver is in no way dangerous. In fact, I will put it up against any antibiotic for any illness anytime. Yet, because of its growing popularity, it is eating into the profits of Big Pharma, which is nothing other than Big Business. And they will have none of that. How sad that the medical establishment has foresaken true healing. Yet, unfortunately, too many people will listen to them, following their lead, and foresake their own health, not even realizing it.This is the time to prepare and insure our own wellness. Let's not wait until the clamps are down. Let's use this time to learn and be able to be in charge of our own health. That is why I suggested that it may be a wise decision to purchase a generator. Nothing like being prepared.I am hoping that this does not come to pass, but regardless, in the United States anyway, there is an all out war on natural healing. We must not panic, but take heed and prepare, like little squirrels gathering acorns for the winter.This is one reason why this group is so valuable. We are here all learning from each other.Love you Mary,oleander soup , "Maria Stathopoulos" <mary1kon wrote:>> .> I was watching the movie Sicko last night by Michael Moore.> And some people in France said the same thing you are saying, The American Government tries to scared its people without information or explonation, wile the french Government its afraid of its people.> The only think i'm afraid of is, that if they stop produsing colloidal Silver what i'm going to do without, i dont believe colloidal Silver is dangerous, but if the people dont know and believed those hocus pocus power hungry mogouls, we the people will be the loosers.> What a waste.> > Hugs Mary

[Guest guest]

 

-

May

oleander soup

Thursday, January 08, 2009 2:53 PM

Re: EPA uses nanotech regulation ploy to target colloidal silver while ignoring all

 

 

Hi Mary,And he is so right. Unfortunately too many people trust the wrong source and will believe what they are told. They are blind and uneducated. Yet, how sad, the very ones who should be guiding, protecting, and leading us to safety, are the ones leading us astray. Colloidal silver is in no way dangerous. In fact, I will put it up against any antibiotic for any illness anytime. Yet, because of its growing popularity, it is eating into the profits of Big Pharma, which is nothing other than Big Business. And they will have none of that. How sad that the medical establishment has foresaken true healing. Yet, unfortunately, too many people will listen to them, following their lead, and foresake their own health, not even realizing it.This is the time to prepare and insure our own wellness. Let's not wait until the clamps are down. Let's use this time to learn and be able to be in charge of our own health. That is why I suggested that it may be a wise decision to purchase a generator. Nothing like being prepared.I am hoping that this does not come to pass, but regardless, in the United States anyway, there is an all out war on natural healing. We must not panic, but take heed and prepare, like little squirrels gathering acorns for the winter.This is one reason why this group is so valuable. We are here all learning from each other.Love you Mary,oleander soup , "Maria Stathopoulos" <mary1kon wrote:>> .> I was watching the movie Sicko last night by Michael Moore.> And some people in France said the same thing you are saying, The American Government tries to scared its people without information or explonation, wile the french Government its afraid of its people.> The only think i'm afraid of is, that if they stop produsing colloida l Silver what i'm going to do without, i dont believe colloidal Silver is dangerous, but if the people dont know and believed those hocus pocus power hungry mogouls, we the people will be the loosers.> What a waste.> > Hugs Mary

[Guest guest]

.

 

If i buy the generator i will need you to come here and teach me how to use it, in that department i'm a bit of a dufus lol.

hope and pray people aducate themselfs and be afraid of no body especially big pharma, i like to believe what you said about colloidal not been in danger of closing down, and the rest is just big scare tectic to me, by the big boys, hiding behind big money.

And now i'm going to write something about choices, for every one to read.

 

This can be a good day, or a bad day- your choice.

 

You can be happy, or sad- your choice.

 

You can complain, or you can cope- your choice.

 

Life can be a chore or a challenge- your choice.

 

You can take from life, or give to life- your choice.

 

If all things are possible, how you deal with those possibilities- your choce.

 

The longer you dwell on your misfortunes, the greater is the power to harm you- your choice.

 

We have a choice on everything that happens to us, so that's stop complaining, and start doing something about it- it's our choice

 

Hugs Mary

 

 

 

-

May

oleander soup

Thursday, January 08, 2009 2:53 PM

Re: EPA uses nanotech regulation ploy to target colloidal silver while ignoring all

 

 

Hi Mary,And he is so right. Unfortunately too many people trust the wrong source and will believe what they are told. They are blind and uneducated. Yet, how sad, the very ones who should be guiding, protecting, and leading us to safety, are the ones leading us astray. Colloidal silver is in no way dangerous. In fact, I will put it up against any antibiotic for any illness anytime. Yet, because of its growing popularity, it is eating into the profits of Big Pharma, which is nothing other than Big Business. And they will have none of that. How sad that the medical establishment has foresaken true healing. Yet, unfortunately, too many people will listen to them, following their lead, and foresake their own health, not even realizing it.This is the time to prepare and insure our own wellness. Let's not wait until the clamps are down. Let's use this time to learn and be able to be in charge of our own health. That is why I suggested that it may be a wise decision to purchase a generator. Nothing like being prepared.I am hoping that this does not come to pass, but regardless, in the United States anyway, there is an all out war on natural healing. We must not panic, but take heed and prepare, like little squirrels gathering acorns for the winter.This is one reason why this group is so valuable. We are here all learning from each other.Love you Mary,oleander soup , "Maria Stathopoulos" <mary1kon wrote:>> .> I was watching the movie Sicko last night by Michael Moore.> And some people in France said the same thing you are saying, The American Government tries to scared its people without information or explonation, wile the french Government its afraid of its people.> The only think i'm afraid of is, that if they stop produsing colloida l Silver what i'm going to do without, i dont believe colloidal Silver is dangerous, but if the people dont know and believed those hocus pocus power hungry mogouls, we the people will be the loosers.> What a waste.> > Hugs Mary

[Guest guest]

I just uploaded the review I was talking about into the files section.

It's listed under: nano_silver_review.pdf - " Silver or silver nano

particles: a hazardous threat to the environment and human health? "

 

It's heavy going in places but an interesting read all the same. If

anything it highlights the type of information anti colloidal silver

groups are arming themselves with. It would good to be able to show how

flawed and misleading each and every point of this document is. Might

help stop some of the scare mongering that's going on out there.

 

Simon

[Guest guest]

I just tried to go the link and got this message:

https://www.zsf.jcu.cz/jab/6_3/havel.pdf/

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