Duane and the group: Iodine and cancer

[Guest guest]

This is going to come as a surprise, but the opinions of those who really know (and even make) iodine is that you should take a minimum of 100 mg per day to fight cancer. Further, "at least 800mcg of selenomethionine needs to be taken with iodine supplementation". And that appears to be true for anyone fighting cancer.

I invite you to observe and/or join the discussion at CureZone beginning here:

Iodine and cancer question

oleander soup , "Duane Christensen" <duanechristensen wrote:>> Tony,> > I wonder if you and/or others in the group would share your thoughts> on iodine supplementation in the fight with cancer. You stressed> rather strongly that I should be supplementing with iodine as well as> Sutherlandia OPC in my struggle with prostate cancer. I responded that> I was already supplementing with iodine. > > I reread David Brownstein's book, IODINE: WHY YOU NEED IT; WHY YOU> CAN'T LIVE WITH OUTOUT IT, 3rd ed. (2007), and realize that apparently> I have not been supplementing an adequate amount of iodine to combat> cancer. I should be getting at least 13 mg of iodine daily, which is> MUCH more than what I have been taking. The RDA for iodine is only 150> mcg, which is far too small an amount.> > My primary sources of iodine to date have been:> > Algazim 2 capsules = 225 mcg x2 = 450 mcg = 0.45 mg> Magnascent 9 drops @ 150mcg = 1350 mcg = 1.35 mg> Himalayan Rock Salt – unknown amount, but I do not use this on a> regular basis>

[Guest guest]

I would highly

suggest that one implement iodine supplementation under the watchful eye of a

healthcare practitioner who is iodine

literate. For those that are weak from cancer or conventional

medicine treatment, the detoxification process can be very difficult. It

is difficult for those who are otherwise healthy. So, for some cancer

patients, it would be best to begin at 50 mg….again under a practitioner’s

care.

 

While I believe that iodine is extremely useful, I sometimes wonder if the

side-effects are really detoxification or iodine toxicity. I have read of

some pretty severe side effects , in my opinion, on the iodine group.

Detoxification symptoms are usually not this severe but yet they are all

chalked up as detoxification. I know that iodine was used successfully

for many illnesses for years and years before the advent of more modern

medicine. However, we still need to proceed with caution as the docs that

are studying it now are “new” at what they are doing.

 

You can read about the recommended Iodine protocol at: http://www.breastcancerchoices.org/iprotocol.html

This is not just for breast cancer patients. OAW has some

good articles about iodine supplementation at: http://www.oasisadvancedwellness.com/learning/thyroid-health-articles.html

 

 

If you decide this is something that will help with healing then proceed with

caution, especially if one is in a weakened state. Best is to get a

knowledgeable practitioner to help you out…..not people in a forum…..sorry,

but detoxification side-effects can be VERY serious and complicated for those

with cancer. Everyone is different and someone’s experience doesn’t

mean it will be the same for everyone else. Do your research. Just my opinion.

 

A VERY MERRY CHRISTMAS & A HAPPY, HEALTHY & PROSPEROUS 2009 TO EVERYONE!

 

Be Well

Loretta

 

Loretta Lanphier, ND, CN, HHP, CH

Oasis Advanced Wellness | Lanique

Botanicals

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Good points all. The iodine group over at CZ is pretty gung ho, but they have lots of experience and successes. A watchful practitioner in iodine would be best, as it would be for a great many things. Sometimes those are not always easy to find or trust - as you and I both know from a few who have tried to present themselves as knowledgeable authorities here in this forum

I will note a couple of things: First of all, I was not making a specific recommendation but rather passing along a reply I received from an inquiry I made on behalf of Duane.

And secondly, whether it is the 50mg you suggest or the 100mg the forum owner at CZ suggested, I think an important message is that the amount of iodine which may be effective (along with the selenium that helps it work properly) may be considerably higher than what many of us, including myself, have been led to believe.

Thanks for the good input, as always.

oleander soup , "Dr. Loretta Lanphier" <drlanphier wrote:>> I would highly suggest that one implement iodine supplementation under the> watchful eye of a healthcare practitioner who is iodine literate. For those> that are weak from cancer or conventional medicine treatment, the> detoxification process can be very difficult. It is difficult for those who> are otherwise healthy. So, for some cancer patients, it would be best to> begin at 50 mg..again under a practitioner's care.> > While I believe that iodine is extremely useful, I sometimes wonder if the> side-effects are really detoxification or iodine toxicity. I have read of> some pretty severe side effects , in my opinion, on the iodine group.> Detoxification symptoms are usually not this severe but yet they are all> chalked up as detoxification. I know that iodine was used successfully for> many illnesses for years and years before the advent of more modern> medicine. However, we still need to proceed with caution as the docs that> are studying it now are "new" at what they are doing.> > You can read about the recommended Iodine protocol at:> <http://www.breastcancerchoices.org/iprotocol.html>> http://www.breastcancerchoices.org/iprotocol.html This is not just for> breast cancer patients. OAW has some good articles about iodine> supplementation at:> <http://www.oasisadvancedwellness.com/learning/thyroid-health-articles.html>> http://www.oasisadvancedwellness.com/learning/thyroid-health-articles.html > > If you decide this is something that will help with healing then proceed> with caution, especially if one is in a weakened state. Best is to get a> knowledgeable practitioner to help you out...not people in a forum...sorry,> but detoxification side-effects can be VERY serious and complicated for> those with cancer. Everyone is different and someone's experience doesn't> mean it will be the same for everyone else. Do your research. Just my> opinion.> > A VERY MERRY CHRISTMAS & A HAPPY, HEALTHY & PROSPEROUS 2009 TO EVERYONE!> > Be Well> Loretta> > Loretta Lanphier, ND, CN, HHP, CH> <http://www.oasisadvancedwellness.com/> Oasis Advanced Wellness |> <http://www.skin-care-support.org/> Lanique Botanicals>

[Guest guest]

Hi Tony, Loretta (and others),

 

Thank you for taking the time to write your informative and useful

responses -- and for the clarification on the dosage amounts of both

iodine and selenium. I joined the CureZone group, as suggested, but it

may take a little time for me to make full use of that valuable source

of information. Thank you, Tony, for introducing me to that group.

 

My primary focus at the moment is on the matter of restoring and

maintaining proper hormone balance in my body after coming off ADT

(androgen deprivation therapy) for prostate cancer. I terminated that

program in November 2006.

 

I have been on a program of testosterone replacement therapy since

June 1, 2007, which I suspended on November 11, 2008, pending the

results of a series of saliva testings with Diagnos-Techs Laboratory

in Kent, Washington.

 

I am under the supervision of an oncologist at Alta Bates

Comprehensive Cancer Center (Berkeley), with whom I have been working

for the past two years. I am adding other specialists to my team,

including a consultant connected with Diagnos-Techs. I will learn

whether or not he is " iodine literate " in due course.

 

I do not plan to start a program of iodine therapy (following the

protocol recommended by Brownstein and Abraham) until I have first

gotten my male hormone panel in some semblance of balance. Here's

where things stand at the moment on the Male Hormone Panel with

Diagnos-Techs:

 

Date || Prog || DHEA | Andro | Testo | DHT || Estrone || E2

Range || 5-95 || 3-10 |151-350|20-55| 39-89 || 30-58 || 1-5

 

11/03/08 ||>1000 || 05 |>1000 |>200 |>125 || 28 || 23

11/24/08 || 0968 || 01 | 0230 |>200 |>125 || 18 || 19

12/11/08 test results will be received shortly

 

I am currently correcting an overdose of testosterone gel-cream and

progesterone cream of recent weeks. I suspended supplementation with

testosterone, progesterone, and DHEA on November 11, 2008. My current

levels are still in need of correction:

 

Progesterone || 968 (ref. range 5-95) -- TOO HIGH

DHEA || 1 (3-10) temporarily depressed

Androstenedione || 230 (151-350) -- OK

Testosterone || >200 (20-55) -- TOO HIGH

DHT || > 125 (39-89) -- TOO HIGH

Estrone (E1) || 18 (30-58) -- LOW but OK

Estradiol (E2) || 19 (1-5) -- TOO HIGH

 

As you no doubt already know, prostate cancer is a hormone related

disease and all standard treatment programs are designed to lower PSA

to near zero, and usually testosterone as well. The consequences of

doing this in the long run are far reaching and negative, in my opinion.

 

The second stage in the matter of achieving and maintaining proper

hormone balance will focus on the Adrenal & Stress Hormones and the

Metabolism Module with Diagnos-Techs. Iodine supplementation is of

major concern in that context.

 

Duane Christensen

[Guest guest]

Yes, you are right.

Sometimes helpful practitioners are very difficult to find. However, in

the case of using iodine it is probably worth the effort to find one that will

at least monitor the side effects. There is just so much that goes with

this because the endocrine system can get messed up very quickly. The

iodine forum suggests getting a iodine loading test done BEFORE

supplementing. I think this is a very good idea and a wise thing to do so

that one can monitor their progress. There is a iodine literate

doctor directory at: http://www.breastcancerchoices.org/ipractitioners.html

 

 

The moderator on the iodine forum is a patient of Dr. Brownstein’s

and thus has access to a lot of information about procedure and detoxing,

etc. However, as I said there have been a lot of people on that forum go

through some pretty heavy detox symptoms -- ones that I might question as whether

they are really detoxing or whether they just don’t need the iodine.

 

I only suggested to start with the 50 mg. Some say the larger amounts (50+

mg) do not seem to cause as much or as severe detox symptoms as beginning with

a small amount. However, when the moderator went up to 100 mg (she has

controlled thyroid cancer) she had a difficult time and had to do a lot of

detoxing.

 

My experience (I do not consider myself an expert in this area but have been

studying it for a while and “watching” what is happening on the

iodine forum) in this says that it is prudent to be doing liver/colon

detoxification before and during iodine therapy. This definitely means

more than just one liver/colon cleanse. It seems that those who detox the

liver first, experience less detox symptoms.

 

It would also be a good idea for cancer patients to have their thyroid checked

out with the correct blood tests. Many on the iodine forum are taking

iodine and Armour Thyroid because they have some type of thyroid disease.

This may be the case with many cancer patients, but most doctors don’t

order the correct blood tests to see what is actually going on with the

thyroid.

 

* TSH (this lab is only for diagnosis of hypopituitary, NOT to diagnose or

dose hypo by)

* Free T4 and Free

T3 (note the word “free”)

* Thyroid Antibodies

(anti-TPO and TgAb. YOU NEED BOTH.)

* Ferritin (and do

stress FERRITIN, not just RBC)

* Adrenals Cortisol

levels (Recommend saliva tests, not the one time blood test your doctor will

do.)

* B-12, estrogen,

progesterone, testosterone, DHEA, Vitamin D…plus others your doctor may

recommend. (Salva test estrogen, progesterone, testosterone & DHEA as

the serum test will not give a good picture of what is actually going on.)

* Reverse T3

 

 

Be Well

Loretta

 

 

 

 

 

 

oleander soup

oleander soup On

Behalf Of Wednesday, December 24, 2008

4:11 PM

oleander soup

Re: Duane

and the group: Iodine and cancer

 

 

Good points all. The

iodine group over at CZ is pretty gung ho, but they have lots of experience and

successes. A watchful practitioner in iodine would be best, as it would

be for a great many things. Sometimes those are not always easy to find

or trust - as you and I both know from a few who have tried to present

themselves as knowledgeable authorities here in this forum

I will note a couple of

things: First of all, I was not making a specific recommendation but

rather passing along a reply I received from an inquiry I made on behalf of

Duane.

And secondly, whether it is

the 50mg you suggest or the 100mg the forum owner at CZ suggested, I think an

important message is that the amount of iodine which may be effective (along

with the selenium that helps it work properly) may be considerably higher than

what many of us, including myself, have been led to believe.

Thanks for the good input, as

always.

Tony

[Guest guest]

How much progesterone were you

using? Was it bio-identical progesterone?

 

Be Well

Loretta

 

 

 

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Message-----

 

 

Date

|| Prog || DHEA | Andro | Testo | DHT || Estrone || E2

Range

|| 5-95 || 3-10 |151-350|20-55| 39-89 || 30-58 || 1-5

 

11/03/08

||>1000 || 05 |>1000 |>200 |>125 || 28 || 23

11/24/08

|| 0968 || 01 | 0230 |>200 |>125 || 18 || 19

12/11/08

test results will be received shortly

 

I

am currently correcting an overdose of testosterone gel-cream and

progesterone

cream of recent weeks. I suspended supplementation with

testosterone,

progesterone, and DHEA on November 11, 2008. My current

levels

are still in need of correction:

 

Progesterone

|| 968 (ref. range 5-95) -- TOO HIGH

DHEA

|| 1 (3-10) temporarily depressed

Androstenedione

|| 230 (151-350) -- OK

Testosterone

|| >200 (20-55) -- TOO HIGH

DHT

|| > 125 (39-89) -- TOO HIGH

Estrone

(E1) || 18 (30-58) -- LOW but OK

Estradiol

(E2) || 19 (1-5) -- TOO HIGH

 

As

you no doubt already know, prostate cancer is a hormone related

disease

and all standard treatment programs are designed to lower PSA

to

near zero, and usually testosterone as well. The consequences of

doing

this in the long run are far reaching and negative, in my opinion.

 

The

second stage in the matter of achieving and maintaining proper

hormone

balance will focus on the Adrenal & Stress Hormones and the

Metabolism

Module with Diagnos-Techs. Iodine supplementation is of

major

concern in that context.

 

Duane

Christensen

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Hi Loretta,

 

I was using MyProgest purchased on Roger Mason's website. A 2 oz jar

has 1000mg of progesterone. Yes, it is bio-identical -- as is the

testosterone gel-cream, which was compounded at a local compounding

pharmacy.

 

I applied a small dab of progesterone on the end of my finger to the

inside of my left forearm and rubbed it in with the inside of my right

forearm. Consequently, it is difficult to know exactly how much I

applied. I knew that progesterone lowers DHT, so I probably was more

generous in the amount I dabbed on my left forearm than I should have

been.

 

My guess is that I was applying about 25ml of progesterone, though I

did this morning AND evening for awhile recently. I was applying

exactly 50ml of testosterone in the gel-cream when I first got up,

because that comes in small calibrated plastic syringes so that it is

easy to know exactly how much is being used.

 

I was instructed to stop all supplementation with testosterone,

progesterone, and DHEA as we get new baseline numbers with

Diagnos-Techs. I did that on 11/11/08 so it has now been more than a

month for the hormones to clear my body. The third round of testing

was received at the lab a week ago, but the lab is closed today

because of a snow storm and the key people in my oncologist's office

are on vacation because of the holiday season.

 

When the hormones clear, the process starts at the beginning of the

cascade with DHEA and Andro first, both of which have already dropped

considerably. Next will be testosterone and DHT (and E2). Hopefully,

we will be ready to begin supplementation with DHEA alone shortly as

we begin to restore the proper balance. I will then turn my attention

to iodine.

 

Duane Christensen

 

*****

 

oleander soup , " Dr. Loretta Lanphier "

<drlanphier wrote:

>

> How much progesterone were you using? Was it bio-identical

progesterone?

>

> Be Well

> Loretta

>

 

>

>

>

>

>

> Date || Prog || DHEA | Andro | Testo | DHT || Estrone || E2

>

> Range || 5-95 || 3-10 |151-350|20-55| 39-89 || 30-58 || 1-5

>

>

>

> 11/03/08 ||>1000 || 05 |>1000 |>200 |>125 || 28 || 23

>

> 11/24/08 || 0968 || 01 | 0230 |>200 |>125 || 18 || 19

>

> 12/11/08 test results will be received shortly

>

>

>

> I am currently correcting an overdose of testosterone gel-cream and

>

> progesterone cream of recent weeks. I suspended supplementation with

>

> testosterone, progesterone, and DHEA on November 11, 2008. My current

>

> levels are still in need of correction:

>

>

>

> Progesterone || 968 (ref. range 5-95) -- TOO HIGH

>

> DHEA || 1 (3-10) temporarily depressed

>

> Androstenedione || 230 (151-350) -- OK

>

> Testosterone || >200 (20-55) -- TOO HIGH

>

> DHT || > 125 (39-89) -- TOO HIGH

>

> Estrone (E1) || 18 (30-58) -- LOW but OK

>

> Estradiol (E2) || 19 (1-5) -- TOO HIGH

>

>

>

> As you no doubt already know, prostate cancer is a hormone related

>

> disease and all standard treatment programs are designed to lower PSA

>

> to near zero, and usually testosterone as well. The consequences of

>

> doing this in the long run are far reaching and negative, in my opinion.

>

>

>

> The second stage in the matter of achieving and maintaining proper

>

> hormone balance will focus on the Adrenal & Stress Hormones and the

>

> Metabolism Module with Diagnos-Techs. Iodine supplementation is of

>

> major concern in that context.

>

>

>

> Duane Christensen

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

---

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Again, good advice. Just FYI, I did raise the question of the rather large amounts of iodine and selenium with my good friend over at CZ who is a resident authority on iodine and got this response:

the idea is to get the bulk of your iodine in KI. its cheaper and can convert to I2 in the body. I2 definitely converts to the salt iodide in the body.but the I2 is important, especially with all women and cancer patients. when the body is getting all the iodide it needs then the I2 is more available to help with things like cancer.in any cancer situation i have to stand firm in my belief that a person should take as much iodine as they can tolerate. it cant kill ya, it aint chemo! but it damn sure wont work if you dont take enough, and thats the whole point.

(as to the selenium) that would be a lot if it were elemental or other forms. selenomethionine is the form to take in large doses. i take 800-1200mcg per day.

oleander soup , "Dr. Loretta Lanphier" <drlanphier wrote:>> Yes, you are right. Sometimes helpful practitioners are very difficult to> find. However, in the case of using iodine it is probably worth the effort> to find one that will at least monitor the side effects.

[Guest guest]

Soooo...I went to the CZ thread you referenced and I have a question

about *this*:

 

" that would be a lot if it were elemental or other forms.

selenomethionine is the form to take in large doses. i take 800-1200mcg

per day "

 

I take 200 mcg of Se-methylselenocysteine from Life Extension daily. Is

this the same form as that referenced above? If not, which is better?

 

TIA~Jill~

[Guest guest]

Selenomethionine, though the most popular form of selenium found in supplements, is most commonly produced from selenide in sulfide ores such as those of copper, silver, or lead. It is obtained as a byproduct of the processing of these ores, from the anode mud of copper refineries and the mud from the lead chambers of sulfuric acid plants. These muds can be processed by a number of means to obtain free selenium.

When it comes to fighting cancer, recent anticancer research has focused on the compound Methyselenocysteine. Methyselenocysteine is found naturally in some vegetables including garlic, brassicas, leeks, and onions, especially when these are grown in high selenium soil. Methylselenocysteine is easily converted to methylselenol which has been demonstrated to be an effective anticancer form of selenium. Rather than killing cancer cells by necrosis, methylselenol kills cancer cells through apoptosis. Apoptosis is a orderly process of cellular self-destruction that does not provoke inflammatory responses. Methylselenol is also known to inhibit angiogenesis in beginning cancer tumors. Angiogenesis, the creation of new blood vessels, is necessary for cancer cells to grow into a tumor.

(from my Natural News article "Spinning the Truth About the Halted NCI Prostate Cancer")

oleander soup , "lillisilly" <evangelnet wrote:>> Soooo...I went to the CZ thread you referenced and I have a question > about *this*:> > "that would be a lot if it were elemental or other forms. > selenomethionine is the form to take in large doses. i take 800-1200mcg > per day"> > I take 200 mcg of Se-methylselenocysteine from Life Extension daily. Is > this the same form as that referenced above? If not, which is better?> > TIA~Jill~>

[Guest guest]

Oooookaaaaay...is the second one the one I am taking? Is it the best

one to take?

 

Thanks...I am not so good at figuring these things out, I kind of need

it made very simple. {{{blush}}}

 

~Jill~

[Guest guest]

From my recently updated anti-cancer protocol:

The best form of supplemental selenium for fighting cancer appears to be methylselenocysteine. The most common form of supplemental selenium is selenomethionine whose general proteins have no anticancer activity. Another form, sodium selenite is more frequently metabolized to the toxic metabolite hydrogen selenide (H2Se), which does have anticancer effects but is more toxic than selenomethionine. Its primary mode of killing cancer cells (and at high levels, normal cells) is through the process of cell necrosis. Cell necrosis provokes inflammation and may kill healthy cells along with cancer cells.

The recommended form of selenium, methyselenocysteine is found naturally in some vegetables including garlic, brassicas, leeks, and onions, especially when these are grown in high selenium soil. Methylselenocysteine is easily converted to methylselenol which has been demonstrated to be an effective anticancer form of selenium. Rather than killing cancer cells by necrosis, methylselenol kills cancer cells through apoptosis. Apoptosis is an orderly process of cellular self-destruction that does not provoke inflammatory responses. Methylselenol is also known to inhibit angiogenesis in beginning cancer tumors. Angiogenesis, the creation of new blood vessels, is necessary for cancer cells to grow into a tumor. For cancer prevention, doses of 200 to 400 mcg of methylselenocysteine are generally considered safe without medical supervision. Nutritionally-oriented physicians may use as much as 900 to 2,000 mcg selenium from methylselenocysteine daily as part of a comprehensive cancer treatment protocol.

oleander soup , "lillisilly" <evangelnet wrote:>> Oooookaaaaay...is the second one the one I am taking? Is it the best > one to take?> > Thanks...I am not so good at figuring these things out, I kind of need > it made very simple. {{{blush}}}> > ~Jill~>

[Guest guest]

Tony,

 

Thank you for posting your updated anti-cancer protocol. I have

incorporated several aspects of this protocol into my own regimen, but

I am not yet using all of it. I am taking one step at a time.

 

I am particularly interested in what you write about iodine and

selenium. I agree with you about methylselenocysteine, and I will be

purchasing a supply of that supplement shortly. At the moment,

however, I am using up my current supply of Selenium (Albion amino

acid complex) 200 mcg capsules purchased from Swanson, which includes

45 mg of what that company calls " Optimum Absorption Complex

Proprietary Blend [includes: Ginger (root), Piper longum & Piper

nigrum]. I am unsure exactly what form of selenium this is in terms of

the scientific names given in your article.

 

I started my Iodine Therapy for prostate cancer on December 26 using

four tablets [= 50 mg] of Iodoral taken at one time in the a.m. I also

continue to take 4 drops of Magnascent Iodine 4% solution [2x daily

(morning & evening) = 8 x 300 mcg = 2.4 mg elemental iodine] and two

capsules of Algazim [Norwegian Fjord Kelp], which contain 450 mcg of

Iodine. I have been taking these latter two products for more than a

year now.

 

I am currently supplementing with 800 mg of Selenium [two 200 mcg

capsules 2x daily (morning & evening)]. Whether or not this is the

right amount of selenium and iodine I do not yet know, but a person

has to start somewhere.

 

I am in the process of establishing new baseline levels in the eMHP

(expanded Male Hormone Panel) of saliva testing with Diagnos-Techs. I

am coming off ADT (androgen deprivation therapy) for prostate cancer,

which I aborted on November 16, 2006. In my attempts to " undo " the

negative effects of that program, I was on TRT (testosterone

replacement therapy) using testosterone gel-cream and progesterone

topical cream for more than a year, starting June 1, 2007. In the

process I overdosed, and I am now in the process of correcting that

error on my part.

 

I suspended all hormone supplementation on 11/11/08 pending the

results of baseline testing. My test results for the saliva kit

collected on 11/24/08 are as follows:

 

Progesterone || 968 (ref. = 5-95 pg/ml) MUCH TOO HIGH

DHEA || 1 (3-10 ng/ml) MUCH TOO LOW

Androstenedione || 230 (151-350 pg/ml) OK

Testosterone || >200 (20-55 pg/ml) TOO HIGH

DHT || >125 (39-89 pg/ml) MUCH TOO HIGH

Estrone || 18 (30-58 pg/ml) LOW (but OK)

Estradiol || 19 (1-5 pg/ml) MUCH TOO HIGH

 

My second round of testing was collected on December 15, but the

results have not yet been received because of recent snow storms in

the Seattle area. Hopefully that information will arrive tomorrow. My

goal is to get all of these categories within their respective

reference ranges as soon as possible. As soon as I know where things

stand, I plan to begin supplementing DHEA (starting at a dosage of 10

mg) and increasing the amount as needed.

 

In my opinion, resolving an apparent iodine deficiency is my first

order of business, as I address the larger problem of restoring and

maintaining proper hormone balance in the eMHP (expanded Male Hormone

Panel) at Diagnos-Techs in the weeks ahead.

 

Your comments and suggestions are MUCH appreciated.

 

Sincerely,

 

Duane Christensen

[Guest guest]

Hi Duane,

 

 

Be careful of the kelp. It may be contaminated with heavy metals. Many brands are. Do check the label or the manufacturer. And please join us on the iodine group!

 

 

Best wishes.

Nonie> I started my Iodine Therapy for prostate cancer on December 26 using> four tablets [= 50 mg] of Iodoral taken at one time in the a.m. I also> continue to take 4 drops of Magnascent Iodine 4% solution [2x daily> (morning & evening) = 8 x 300 mcg = 2.4 mg elemental iodine] and two> capsules of Algazim [Norwegian Fjord Kelp], which contain 450 mcg of> Iodine. I have been taking these latter two products for more than a> year now. > > Duane Christensen

[Guest guest]

Nonie,

 

I was told by the owner of Solid Gold Pet Foods that Norwegian kelp is contaminated with radioactivity from the Chernobyl disaster. Her company uses kelp from Canada. Nothing in the ocean is perfectly clean now anyway, it's such a crime.

 

Bob

 

-

Nonie

oleander soup

Thursday, January 01, 2009 12:58 AM

RE: Re: Duane and the group: Iodine and cancer

Hi Duane, Be careful of the kelp. It may be contaminated with heavy metals. Many brands are. Do check the label or the manufacturer. And please join us on the iodine group! Best wishes.Nonie> I started my Iodine Therapy for prostate cancer on December 26 using> four tablets [= 50 mg] of Iodoral taken at one time in the a.m. I also> continue to take 4 drops of Magnascent Iodine 4% solution [2x daily> (morning & evening) = 8 x 300 mcg = 2.4 mg elemental iodine] and two> capsules of Algazim [Norwegian Fjord Kelp], which contain 450 mcg of> Iodine. I have been taking these latter two products for more than a> year now. > > Duane Christensen

[Guest guest]

Hi Nonie,

 

Algazim is produced by Daily Manufacturing. See:

 

www.daily-mfg.com

 

I have confidence in this company, which was founded years ago by a

follower of the late Dr. Carey Reams. I have been in the RBTI (Reams

Biological Theory of Ionization) program for two years now. It is an

essential part of my regimen to fight prostate cancer.

 

I am a member of the iodine group but find little of interest there at

the moment. Most of the discussion is off-topic. A MUCH more valuable

resource on related matters is:

 

http://health.HormonesandHealth-Naturally/

 

Duane Christensen

 

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oleander soup , Nonie <nmsammy wrote:

>

>

> Hi Duane,

>

>

> Be careful of the kelp. It may be contaminated with heavy metals.

Many brands are. Do check the label or the manufacturer. And please

join us on the iodine group!

>

>

> Best wishes.

 

> Nonie

 

> I started my Iodine Therapy for prostate cancer on December 26

using> four tablets [= 50 mg] of Iodoral taken at one time in the a.m.

I also> continue to take 4 drops of Magnascent Iodine 4% solution [2x

daily> (morning & evening) = 8 x 300 mcg = 2.4 mg elemental iodine]

and two> capsules of Algazim [Norwegian Fjord Kelp], which contain 450

mcg of> Iodine. I have been taking these latter two products for more

than a> year now. > > Duane Christensen

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Bob,

 

 

You are right! But, I try to avoid known dangers as much as possible! Kelp does not supply enough iodine to risk the dangers in my opinion from all the research I have done on iodine. And from all the info from Dr. Brownstein and the iodine .

 

 

 

Happy New Year!

 

Nonie

 

 

 

Nonie,

 

I was told by the owner of Solid Gold Pet Foods that Norwegian kelp is contaminated with radioactivity from the Chernobyl disaster. Her company uses kelp from Canada. Nothing in the ocean is perfectly clean now anyway, it's such a crime.

 

Bob

 

[Guest guest]

How about Kelp manufactured in Minnesota?

Parkelp is the brand name. Would this be safe enough?

 

Melly

[Guest guest]

Hi Melly,

 

 

You would have to ask the manufacturer about the level of arsenic and other heavy metals. But, really, you cannot take enough to saturate your tissues and organs. Every cell in the body uses iodine. Why not join the iodine group for some good info.

 

 

And read on the Iodine Project and Dr. Abrahams' articles. Also can be found on the Optimox site. And Dr. David Brownstein has some articles.

Nonie

> How about Kelp manufactured in Minnesota?> Parkelp is the brand name. Would this be safe enough?> > Melly

 

[Guest guest]

Nonie, thanks for your advice. I now take Iodoral 12.5 mg prescribed by my

integrative/MD. I asked the question as I like to take kelp for its detox

qualities.

 

Melly

[Guest guest]

Hi Melly,

 

Hope it works for you. You might want to look at all the co-factors as well...selenium, vit. c, celtic sea salt, mag and atp co-factors. You can find the info at:

 

 

www.breastcancerchoices.org

 

Nonie> Nonie, thanks for your advice. I now take Iodoral 12.5 mg prescribed by my integrative/MD. I asked the question as I like to take kelp for its detox qualities.> > Melly