coconut milk to help absorb oleander

[Guest guest]

hi there,

thought some of you may be interested in this info. below is a clip from the

full article. the doctor i work for uses this coconut milk method of getting

supplements into the lymphatic system. he says it is helpful even if the

medicine is chemo since you can get it where it needs to go more efficiently. i

think coconut milk may be an ideal thing to mix with oleander...PLUS!, in my

experience it helps disguise unpleasant--or down-right nasty--flavors (i think

the the fat helps it to glide over the tongue i bit more inconspicuously).

however, i just ordered some oleander today for the first time, so, i can't give

you a full guarantee on how lovely it will taste.

 

best wishes,

sabine.

 

from:

http://www.grouppekurosawa.com/blog/2005/07/official-kurosawa-general-cancer.htm

 

 

" Fats/oils are absorbed into the body in a manner different from other

molecules, such as amino acids, carbohydrates, and synthetic drugs. Fats/oil are

absorbed into the lymphatic system or lymph fluid while amino acids,

carbohydrates and drugs enter the body via the portal system. The portal system

introduces molecules directly into the blood. Sounds like an ideal system, but

it is anything but.

 

IF ingested molecules can enter the blood, and this is a BIG IF since many of

them are immediately excluded, the blood will take them first to the liver. The

liver is the guardian of the body, protecting us from nasty chemicals that can

hurt us. The liver has no brain and cannot differentiate between pesticides and

synthetic drugs, or natural medicines for that matter. This is called the First

Pass Phenomenon and it is the nightmare of the pharmaceutical industry. No

matter how effective a drug is in tissue culture, in the body it has to make it

past the liver in order to be clinically effective. Most drugs do not make it

past the liver intact.

 

Is there an alternative method of delivery into the body? Yes!!! Dissolve the

drug or natural medicine in fat/oil and it will enter the lymphatic system

instead of the blood. This is a MUCH better method of delivery since it avoids

the liver and targets the lymph fluid which bathes every cell in the body.

Don’t forget that metastatic cancer cells circulate throughout the body in the

lymphatic system. If you want to kill them before they establish tumors, the

lymphatic system is the place you want to be.

 

If you are trying to kill a specific cancer, targeting the lymphatic system

should be your goal. The pharmaceutical industry knows this first hand. They

have devised all kinds of procedures for targeting their drugs to the lymphatic

system instead of the blood. This gets the drug distributed throughout the body

without worrying about the liver and its ability to convert drugs into worthless

breakdown products.

 

So we dissolve our natural medicines, those that are and are not soluble in fat,

in coconut milk. The fat in coconut milk allows the natural medicines to both

dissolve in fat and to be delivered to the lymphatic system intact. Coconut milk

is an emulsion, a semi stable mixture of coconut water and coconut fat. This

allows us to introduce BOTH water soluble and fat soluble molecules into the

lymphatic system at once. It is an ideal system. If we used coconut oil instead

of coconut milk, we could only deliver fat soluble compounds into the lymph. We

hope this information makes sense to you. It is very important that you

understand why we have adopted this delivery system. Adopting coconut milk as a

drug or natural medicine delivery system wasn’t an accident. There is a method

to our madness. "

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the information. Group Kurosawa is an interesting one and some of their ideas are met with a certain amount of skepticism - including the one about whether a medium chain fatty acid such as that found in coconut oil (or coconut milk) is absorbed directly into the lymphatic system.

I do like coconut milk and coconut oil though, and it is a known fact that many things are better absorbed when they are either dissolved first in coconut oil, milk or other fats or else taken at the same time as coconut oil or other fats are ingested.

If I were taking items like curcumin and quercitin and wanted to get the maximum absorption I would be sure to take them with some coconut milk or oil as well as a bit of krill or other healthy fish oil (which contain long chain fatty acids which ARE absorbed into the lymphatic system) and also take bromelain at the same time, which is a powerful binder and increases the absorption of many things.

That may well be good advice for a great many items.

Here is a discussion I found on the net that may be relevant:

Coconut oil is mainly MCT (Medium Chain Triglycerides). MCTs are metabolized differently than LCTs.http://mywebpages.comcast.net/swaney.../Lipids/p4.htm

 

Quote:

 

 

 

The bulk of dietary fatty acids, which are long chain, are incorporated into chylomicrons, which are lipoproteins synthesized in the enterocytes; the chylomicrons are secreted into lymph, ultimately entering the blood at the thoracic duct. By contrast, medium chain triglycerides (MCT) are absorbed directly into cells without the need for bile acids, and the free fatty acids go into the portal vein and bound to albumin. The nutritional significance of this is that TG with medium chain fatty acids are more easily digested and absorbed about four times as efficiently as long-chain TG, which can be important when these processes are impaired, as with the malabsorption syndromes.

and this: The Science and Practice of Nutrition Support: A Case-based Core Curriculum

 

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Medium Chain fatty acids do not enter the lymphatic system, but instead are absorbed directly into the portal circulation. The liver metabolizes the medium-chain fatty acids extensively.

and according to our resident Phd Biochemist, Skepzilla:

 

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Short-chain fatty acids arealmost entirely transported by the portal route. The long-chain fattyacids go into the lymph tract. But lauric acid has 12 carbon atoms, andis somewhat in-between the two groups. Work done in the fifties hasalready shown that lauric acid goes only for 15-55% into the lymphsystem; the rest goes the portal route.medium chain fatty acids THE PORTAL TRANSPORT OF ABSORBED FATTY ACIDS*The argument that lauric acid cannot take curcumin into the lymph systemdoesn't hold water, because it's for most part irrelevant.Lipids can take drugs and (fat-soluble) vitamins to the cells.Long-chain fatty acids (C16 and higher) perform poorly. I have alwaysrecommended short-chain f. a. as found in butter and coconut oil. Theyare easily digested and have other beneficial properties (ion transportetc.) ...So, in answer to your question: Abel Pharmboy is right about curcuminnot being transported with any lipid through the lymphatic system, butthat's irrelevant because the short-chain lipids don't go that route.

curcumin is oil-soluble. and if you look at pubmed, you will see studies where the bioavailability of substances changes depending on the type of oil used (MCT or LCT mainly).here is one:The fatty acid pattern of dietary fat influences the oral bioavailability of the flavonol quercetin in pigs.

oleander soup , sabine luis <impendingbloom wrote:>> hi there,> thought some of you may be interested in this info. below is a clip from the full article. the doctor i work for uses this coconut milk method of getting supplements into the lymphatic system. he says it is helpful even if the medicine is chemo since you can get it where it needs to go more efficiently. i think coconut milk may be an ideal thing to mix with oleander...PLUS!, in my experience it helps disguise unpleasant--or down-right nasty--flavors (i think the the fat helps it to glide over the tongue i bit more inconspicuously). however, i just ordered some oleander today for the first time, so, i can't give you a full guarantee on how lovely it will taste.> > best wishes,> sabine.>