Guest guest Posted December 21, 2008 Report Share Posted December 21, 2008 Hi. I am a new member on this group and will like to ask anyone if they have any experience using oleander sutherlandia OPC for cancer, particularly lung cancer or any cancer with liver mets. On this website, it was mentioned that maybe oleander does not work well with liver involvement. http://www.disabled-world.com/artman/publish/oleander-hiv.shtml " Everything still ok here and cancer patients as well as HIV patients on the oleander mix are doing well. The medical doctor in Cape Town who is using the mix for all his cancer patients has continued to have good results. The oncologist where he sends his patients to (a woman) was so impressed with the results that she is now using it herself for prevention. .. . to date, the only patients that did NOT make it on the oleander mix were three patients with very advanced cancer that had metastasized to the liver and who had been on intensive chemo treatments. In my opinion, the effect of the chemo on the and liver and heart eventually led to failure of those organs. " I am interested in getting oleander for my mom who has stage 4 lung cancer with liver spread but now I am hesitant because of this. Does any one know if oleander is really unsuitable for liver involvement? Thanks. HP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2008 Report Share Posted December 21, 2008 Hi HP,The article that you referenced was written by none other than Tony, the owner of this forum.By all means, do get the Sutherlandia OPC for your mom. First of all, Tony refers to only 3 cancer patients that did not make it out of the 1,000 members that we now have in our forum, due to their bodies already having been ravaged due to the effects of chemo. It was the chemo that killed them, not the oleander. Their bodies were in such a devastated state and the cancer had progressed to such a point, that the body itself had lost its ability to fight and the oleander did not have a chance to work.This is a minute percentage. Oleander is a most powerful supplement in healing cancer and we have many more positive testimonies than the three referenced above. And more coming in. We have members that had pretty much lost hope turn the corner and starting to improve. Some are doing very well, so please do not let this stop you. Your mom deserves the best chance and oleander, together with Tony's entire Natural Anti-Cancer Protocol, builds up the body's arsenal by addressing the cancer at its core, a compromised immune system. Here is the link to the Natural Anti-Cancer Protocol. I would suggest that you follow it verbatum./anticancer.htm I wish you the very best and look forward to hearing of your mother's progress.Warm regards,oleander soup , "chu_hui_ping" <chu_hui_ping wrote:>> Hi. I am a new member on this group and will like to ask anyone if > they have any experience using oleander sutherlandia OPC for cancer, > particularly lung cancer or any cancer with liver mets.> > On this website, it was mentioned that maybe oleander does not work > well with liver involvement.> > http://www.disabled-world.com/artman/publish/oleander-hiv.shtml> > "Everything still ok here and cancer patients as well as HIV patients > on the oleander mix are doing well. The medical doctor in Cape Town > who is using the mix for all his cancer patients has continued to > have good results. The oncologist where he sends his patients to (a > woman) was so impressed with the results that she is now using it > herself for prevention. > > . . to date, the only patients that did NOT make it on the oleander > mix were three patients with very advanced cancer that had > metastasized to the liver and who had been on intensive chemo > treatments. In my opinion, the effect of the chemo on the and liver > and heart eventually led to failure of those organs." > > I am interested in getting oleander for my mom who has stage 4 lung > cancer with liver spread but now I am hesitant because of this. Does > any one know if oleander is really unsuitable for liver involvement? > Thanks.> > HP> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2008 Report Share Posted December 22, 2008 Thanks !!! I am now more reassured. I really wanted to get oleander sutherlandia OPC for my mom but was just scared after reading about the 3 patients who failed. I guess you are right, those are only 3 cases. there are many out there with better results with sutherlandia OPC. I will get for her soon. Thanks a lot. HP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2008 Report Share Posted December 22, 2008 You are most welcome HP. Also I would like to extend a warm welcome to our group.Warm regards,oleander soup , "chu_hui_ping" <chu_hui_ping wrote:>> Thanks !!! I am now more reassured. I really wanted to get > oleander sutherlandia OPC for my mom but was just scared after reading > about the 3 patients who failed. I guess you are right, those are only > 3 cases. there are many out there with better results with > sutherlandia OPC. I will get for her soon. Thanks a lot.> > HP> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2008 Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 Correction - the three cancer patients I referred to who did not make it were not members of this forum, but rather were cancer patients in South Africa who began using OPC after having prior chemo which likely damaged their livers. Oleander itself poses no dangers to the liver and is in fact very beneficial in the treatment of Hepatitis-C. However, the release of toxins due to cancer cell die off may pose a danger unless the person takes steps such as those I suggest in my anti-cancer protocol (which is posted here in the file section) to cleanse, protect and regenerate what is almost certain to be an impaired liver to begin with (as Max Gerson observed, he ONLY found cancer in patients who had an impaired liver, and successful cancer treatments will result in an increased toxic burden on the liver, making it essential that people who are fighting cancer keep the bile ducts open an flowing). oleander soup , " May " <luellamay129 wrote: > > Hi HP, > > The article that you referenced was written by none other than Tony, the > owner of this forum. > > By all means, do get the Sutherlandia OPC for your mom. First of all, > Tony refers to only 3 cancer patients that did not make it out of the > 1,000 members that we now have in our forum, due to their bodies already > having been ravaged due to the effects of chemo. It was the chemo that > killed them, not the oleander. Their bodies were in such a devastated > state and the cancer had progressed to such a point, that the body > itself had lost its ability to fight and the oleander did not have a > chance to work. > > This is a minute percentage. Oleander is a most powerful supplement in > healing cancer and we have many more positive testimonies than the three > referenced above. And more coming in. We have members that had pretty > much lost hope turn the corner and starting to improve. Some are doing > very well, so please do not let this stop you. Your mom deserves the > best chance and oleander, together with Tony's entire Natural > Anti-Cancer Protocol, builds up the body's arsenal by addressing the > cancer at its core, a compromised immune system. > > Here is the link to the Natural Anti-Cancer Protocol. I would suggest > that you follow it verbatum. > > /anticancer.htm > </anticancer.htm> > > I wish you the very best and look forward to hearing of your mother's > progress. > > Warm regards, > > > > oleander soup , " chu_hui_ping " <chu_hui_ping@> > wrote: > > > > Hi. I am a new member on this group and will like to ask anyone if > > they have any experience using oleander sutherlandia OPC for cancer, > > particularly lung cancer or any cancer with liver mets. > > > > On this website, it was mentioned that maybe oleander does not work > > well with liver involvement. > > > > http://www.disabled-world.com/artman/publish/oleander-hiv.shtml > > > > " Everything still ok here and cancer patients as well as HIV patients > > on the oleander mix are doing well. The medical doctor in Cape Town > > who is using the mix for all his cancer patients has continued to > > have good results. The oncologist where he sends his patients to (a > > woman) was so impressed with the results that she is now using it > > herself for prevention. > > > > . . to date, the only patients that did NOT make it on the oleander > > mix were three patients with very advanced cancer that had > > metastasized to the liver and who had been on intensive chemo > > treatments. In my opinion, the effect of the chemo on the and liver > > and heart eventually led to failure of those organs. " > > > > I am interested in getting oleander for my mom who has stage 4 lung > > cancer with liver spread but now I am hesitant because of this. Does > > any one know if oleander is really unsuitable for liver involvement? > > Thanks. > > > > HP > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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