Guest guest Posted December 17, 2008 Report Share Posted December 17, 2008 No one with ovarian cancer survive? Who is he? Does he live under a rock...no disrespect intended? Many people survive ovarian cancer. I know of 3 and I don't know many people. With all do respect...even with 'invasive treaments' I think the survival rate is like fifty percent. Or am I missing something here? Is this with oleander? --- On Tue, 12/16/08, Rhoda Mead <hummingbird541 wrote: Rhoda Mead <hummingbird541 Fwd: [AMAZON] - Dr. Flechas' Speech on Iodineoleander soup Date: Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 8:22 PM I seldom post lengthy FWDs, but this one is important. I'm taking 50 mg of Iodoral, did an iodine loading test, and had a short consultation with Dr. Flechas today. First off, he hasn't seen anyone with ovarian cancer survive! Second, he believes that anyone with active cancer should take the max dose until remission is well established, whether or not he has an active thyroid. A good beginning of knowledge about iodine and bromine is the website for iodine. www.breastcancercho ices.org. Rhoda A Summary of Dr. George Flechas' Speech at the September 2008 Cancer Control Society (Editor's Notes are Mine.) "The absence of iodine in the human body is a promoter of cancer." Dr. Flechas The absence of iodine in the human body is a promoter of cancer. No iodine, lots of cancer. When you go back and look in history at the relationship between iodine and cancer, it was found that people without iodine in the thyroid get a goiter, enlargement of thyroid, and hypothyroidism. A hundred years ago, they discovered that people with a goiter have a higher rate of thyroid cancer, and increased risk of breast cancer, ovarian cancer, endometrial cancer, esophogeal cancer, etc. Intermediary Diseases Before Getting Cancer Thyroid - Normal thyroid tissue... Goiter .... Nodules ... Enlargement ... Thyroid Cancer Breast - Normal breast tissue .. Cysts; Nodules, Scar Tissue, Enlargment, Pain ( called fibrocytic disease)... Two or three years ago, a NEJM article found that people with fibrocystic disease ended up having higher rates of having breast cancer. Ovary - Normal ovarian tissue ... Cysts, Nodules, Scar tissue, Enlargement, Pain (called polycystic disease) By late 40's, early 50's may have ovarian cancer. Amounts of Iodine in Organs For people who have been on the drug, amiodarone, an organic iodine for heart arrhythmias, and died under the influence of the drug, it was discovered after they died that the body could hold up to 1500 mg of iodine. Most people have 20 mg - 30 mg of iodine in them. The thyroid can hold up to a maximum of 50 mg., which represents less than 3% of the total iodine that the body can hold. But medical professionals have only focused on the thyroid, and have forgotten the rest of the body. Skin: The skin has 20% of the iodine. What does iodine do in the skin? Iodine helps the body to sweat. The absence of sweating is a premonition to let you know that the iodine levels in the body have declined. The absence of iodine promotes cancer. Muscles: 32% of the iodine sits in the muscles. When there are nodules, scar tissue, enlargement, and pain, called fibromyalgia. Iodine in History In history, it was only thought you needed enough iodine for the population to stave off a goiter. They say that you can get your iodine from salt. But, today, 50% of people do not cook with iodized salt. Plus, many in the fast food industry do not use iodized salt. Iodine used to be in the bread and milk, but it was taken out. The only place you can get iodine is in salt. In Napoleon's day, when iodine was discovered, it was found that iodine is what stops the development of a goiter. If you give iodine, the goiter disappears. It was the first disease that could be stopped. Now, doctors think that if you give iodine, it will cause a goiter. It is the schizophrenia of medicine. We forgot one of our first medical tenets. If you give iodine, it will get rid of a goiter. It does not induce a goiter. And, if it does, something else is wrong. Iodine and Cancer Iodine takes away the immortality of cancer cells. Cancer cells think of themselves as being immortal. Iodine induces apoptosis. It takes away the immortality of cancer cells. Iodine freezes cellular division, so that cells can not divide and multiply, and divide and multiply. Iodine stops dividing and multiplying. But if you have a wound, you need to have controlled "divide and multiply" quickly to close the wound. It was discovered in the 80's that if you put iodine on a surgical wound, when you take out the sutures, the wound will open up. Why? Iodine will not allow for divide and multiply that is necessary for a surgical wound to close. Estrogen Recent research has found that iodine has the ability to decrease estrogen production in the cells of the body. When you take estrogen for menopause, and if you are starting to take iodine, you may need more estrogen to control the menopausal symptoms. Iodine controls and almost stops the production of estrogen. And iodine decreases the ability of the cells to make receptors for estrogen. Hence, this is the medication, Tamoxifen It has the ability to block these receptors. While iodine decreases the total number of estrogen receptors that are present in the body... Sodium Iodide Symporter (NIS) The absorption of iodine is a protein known as the sodium iodide symporter (NIS) system. The symporter is found in the thyroid and in all cell tissues of the body. The symporter is a transport protein that transports the iodine from a low concentration to a high concentration zone. There is a high concentration in the thyroid and low concentration in the tissues. Iodine has the ability to transport iodine against a gradient, and push it into the tissue. In the breast, two transport systems: Pendrin and NIS. In the breast, the chloride channel, the pendrin, is operational from the beginning. But, in breast cancer, the NIS becomes active in the breast cancer cells. The breast cancer cell, sensing something is wrong, increases NIS to absorb iodine to get rid of the cancer. In Dr. Christine Horner's book, The Making of a Warrior Goddess, she states that 80% of breast cancer cells show evidence of active absorption through the sodium iodide symporter. EXPLOITING NIS IN MICE STUDIES; You can take the sodium iodide symporter - the gene for the symporter -and put it into an AIDS-type virus, a retrovirus, that has the ability to insert genes into the DNA of cells. Lung Cancer Mice Study: Researchers at UCLA put the gene for the symporter into a retrovirus, then put it in and infected the cancer cells of mice with oat cell lung cancer, and all of a sudden the cells could absorb iodine. Result: There was 95% cell death in just a few days. (Editor's Note: From the Lung Cancer Study: This is the first report demonstrating that a therapeutic dose of nonradioactive iodide has potent efficacy and high selectivity against lung cancer when used in combination with genetic modification of cancer cells to express the NIS/TPOgenes.) Prostate Cancer Mice Study: In this Mayo study, researchers loaded NIS in the prostate of mice and gave them iodine and and in a matter of days the prostate cancer was gone. (Editor's Note: In this prostate cancer study, they unfortunately used radioactive iodide.) This is how important iodine is in the body. There are now new therapies to infect a cancer with a virus that contains the symporter that has the ability to increase the body's capability to absorb iodine. Boston Women's Study Years ago, in Boston, 25,000 women took 5 mg of iodine a day, and were followed for five years. At the end of five years, they had a 50% decrease in the production of breast cancer. So, what we are saying is that the absence of iodine is a promoter of cancer. IQ and Iodine Iodine determines the IQ in a population. If iodine is taken during pregnancy, the child will have an IQ that is 10-15 points higher in IQ than the parents. On the West Coast, what population would be expected to have a higher IQ? The Asians. They eat seaweed. They eat seaweed all of the time with their meals. Americans maybe eat sushi once a year. There are 20 different kinds of seaweed. Need to incorporate more seaweed in the diet. Learn how to use seaweed in beans, rice, etc. And then we are told not to eat fish because of mercury. But what they don't tell you is that there are small fish that do not have mercury. Chinese Experiment with Fluoride In China, where there isn't much iodine in the population, they flouridated the water system and watched over five years to see if there were any problems. What they found was there were babies born that were cretins, morons, idiots, what ever you want to call it. And here in the US, the iodine has been depleted, taken out of the bread, milk. And we have been told to decrease taking salt in the next five years, they say, by 50%. And they fluoridate the water in the cities here, so what can we expect in the next population? Italian Study with Kids An absence of iodine in EARLY pregnancy leads to problems. In Italy, they conducted a study with 20 kids from the city (Tuscany) and 20 kids from an ocean area. In the kids from the city, where there was not enough iodine in the water or food, 11 out of 20 kids got Attention Deficit Disorder (ADD). In the kids from the ocean area, where they could eat ocean fish and products, zero of the kids got ADD. And here, in the US, between 2000 and 2004, the rate of ADD among adults rose 500%. Subtracting out Iodine If you subtract out iodine, there is decreasing intellect and increasing disease. 94% of all American women have fibrocystic disease. Just think about future generations, when there is no iodine in their system. The more iodine you eat, the longer you live and have fewer problems with cancer. Japanese Men and Iodine If you are a man, if you don't die of a heart attack, you will die from prostate cancer. In Japan, when Japanese men develop prostate cancer, they never die of it. Why? The iodine keeps the cancer from spreading beyond the capsule of the prostate. In contrast to the Japanese, in the US, 40% of the men who get prostate cancer will die of the disease. Read Dr. David Derry's book, Breast Cancer and Iodine, on this. Dr. Derry is an MD/PHD, and you can get his book on Amazon. It has the documentation that iodine is crucial for men and women. Also, 1-2 % of US men develop breast cancer. It is not due to taking estrogen. It is due to not getting enough iodine in the diet. So, iodine is crucial for women and men. Why Males Have Breasts Thyroperoxidase (TPO) is the enzyme in the thyroid gland that helps iodine get absorbed to make proteins, which is called organification. And then the production of hormones. While women have larger breasts, why do males have breast tissue? In the breast tissue, there is the enzyme, lactoperoxidase (LPO), that helps the body to absorb iodine in all tissues. That is why males have breast tissue. There is now technology to measure iodine saturation in the body.************ ********* ********* ********* ********* ********* ********* ********* ********* ********* ********* *** To Subscribe to the Amazon Listserv address an email to LISTSERV (AT) TECHUNIX (DOT) TECHNION. AC.IL and type SUBSCRIBE AMAZON-L YOURNAME in the message box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2008 Report Share Posted December 17, 2008 Matt, Not too many years ago the survival rate was about 5% for ovarian cancer. I remember well... my mother died from the chemo they gave her for it. Went into hepatic coma and never recovered. Bob - Matt Ackerman oleander soup Wednesday, December 17, 2008 2:48 AM Re: Fwd: [AMAZON] - Dr. Flechas' Speech on Iodine No one with ovarian cancer survive? Who is he? Does he live under a rock...no disrespect intended? Many people survive ovarian cancer. I know of 3 and I don't know many people. With all do respect...even with 'invasive treaments' I think the survival rate is like fifty percent. Or am I missing something here? Is this with oleander? --- On Tue, 12/16/08, Rhoda Mead <hummingbird541 wrote: Rhoda Mead <hummingbird541 Fwd: [AMAZON] - Dr. Flechas' Speech on Iodineoleander soup Date: Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 8:22 PM I seldom post lengthy FWDs, but this one is important. I'm taking 50 mg of Iodoral, did an iodine loading test, and had a short consultation with Dr. Flechas today. First off, he hasn't seen anyone with ovarian cancer survive! Second, he believes that anyone with active cancer should take the max dose until remission is well established, whether or not he has an active thyroid. A good beginning of knowledge about iodine and bromine is the website for iodine. www.breastcancercho ices.org. Rhoda A Summary of Dr. George Flechas' Speech at the September 2008 Cancer Control Society (Editor's Notes are Mine.) "The absence of iodine in the human body is a promoter of cancer." Dr. Flechas The absence of iodine in the human body is a promoter of cancer. No iodine, lots of cancer. When you go back and look in history at the relationship between iodine and cancer, it was found that people without iodine in the thyroid get a goiter, enlargement of thyroid, and hypothyroidism. A hundred years ago, they discovered that people with a goiter have a higher rate of thyroid cancer, and increased risk of breast cancer, ovarian cancer, endometrial cancer, esophogeal cancer, etc. Intermediary Diseases Before Getting Cancer Thyroid - Normal thyroid tissue... Goiter .... Nodules ... Enlargement ... Thyroid Cancer Breast - Normal breast tissue .. Cysts; Nodules, Scar Tissue, Enlargment, Pain ( called fibrocytic disease)... Two or three years ago, a NEJM article found that people with fibrocystic disease ended up having higher rates of having breast cancer. Ovary - Normal ovarian tissue ... Cysts, Nodules, Scar tissue, Enlargement, Pain (called polycystic disease) By late 40's, early 50's may have ovarian cancer. Amounts of Iodine in Organs For people who have been on the drug, amiodarone, an organic iodine for heart arrhythmias, and died under the influence of the drug, it was discovered after they died that the body could hold up to 1500 mg of iodine. Most people have 20 mg - 30 mg of iodine in them. The thyroid can hold up to a maximum of 50 mg., which represents less than 3% of the total iodine that the body can hold. But medical professionals have only focused on the thyroid, and have forgotten the rest of the body. Skin: The skin has 20% of the iodine. What does iodine do in the skin? Iodine helps the body to sweat. The absence of sweating is a premonition to let you know that the iodine levels in the body have declined. The absence of iodine promotes cancer. Muscles: 32% of the iodine sits in the muscles. When there are nodules, scar tissue, enlargement, and pain, called fibromyalgia. Iodine in History In history, it was only thought you needed enough iodine for the population to stave off a goiter. They say that you can get your iodine from salt. But, today, 50% of people do not cook with iodized salt. Plus, many in the fast food industry do not use iodized salt. Iodine used to be in the bread and milk, but it was taken out. The only place you can get iodine is in salt. In Napoleon's day, when iodine was discovered, it was found that iodine is what stops the development of a goiter. If you give iodine, the goiter disappears. It was the first disease that could be stopped. Now, doctors think that if you give iodine, it will cause a goiter. It is the schizophrenia of medicine. We forgot one of our first medical tenets. If you give iodine, it will get rid of a goiter. It does not induce a goiter. And, if it does, something else is wrong. Iodine and Cancer Iodine takes away the immortality of cancer cells. Cancer cells think of themselves as being immortal. Iodine induces apoptosis. It takes away the immortality of cancer cells. Iodine freezes cellular division, so that cells can not divide and multiply, and divide and multiply. Iodine stops dividing and multiplying. But if you have a wound, you need to have controlled "divide and multiply" quickly to close the wound. It was discovered in the 80's that if you put iodine on a surgical wound, when you take out the sutures, the wound will open up. Why? Iodine will not allow for divide and multiply that is necessary for a surgical wound to close. Estrogen Recent research has found that iodine has the ability to decrease estrogen production in the cells of the body. When you take estrogen for menopause, and if you are starting to take iodine, you may need more estrogen to control the menopausal symptoms. Iodine controls and almost stops the production of estrogen. And iodine decreases the ability of the cells to make receptors for estrogen. Hence, this is the medication, Tamoxifen It has the ability to block these receptors. While iodine decreases the total number of estrogen receptors that are present in the body... Sodium Iodide Symporter (NIS) The absorption of iodine is a protein known as the sodium iodide symporter (NIS) system. The symporter is found in the thyroid and in all cell tissues of the body. The symporter is a transport protein that transports the iodine from a low concentration to a high concentration zone. There is a high concentration in the thyroid and low concentration in the tissues. Iodine has the ability to transport iodine against a gradient, and push it into the tissue. In the breast, two transport systems: Pendrin and NIS. In the breast, the chloride channel, the pendrin, is operational from the beginning. But, in breast cancer, the NIS becomes active in the breast cancer cells. The breast cancer cell, sensing something is wrong, increases NIS to absorb iodine to get rid of the cancer. In Dr. Christine Horner's book, The Making of a Warrior Goddess, she states that 80% of breast cancer cells show evidence of active absorption through the sodium iodide symporter. EXPLOITING NIS IN MICE STUDIES; You can take the sodium iodide symporter - the gene for the symporter -and put it into an AIDS-type virus, a retrovirus, that has the ability to insert genes into the DNA of cells. Lung Cancer Mice Study: Researchers at UCLA put the gene for the symporter into a retrovirus, then put it in and infected the cancer cells of mice with oat cell lung cancer, and all of a sudden the cells could absorb iodine. Result: There was 95% cell death in just a few days. (Editor's Note: From the Lung Cancer Study: This is the first report demonstrating that a therapeutic dose of nonradioactive iodide has potent efficacy and high selectivity against lung cancer when used in combination with genetic modification of cancer cells to express the NIS/TPOgenes.) Prostate Cancer Mice Study: In this Mayo study, researchers loaded NIS in the prostate of mice and gave them iodine and and in a matter of days the prostate cancer was gone. (Editor's Note: In this prostate cancer study, they unfortunately used radioactive iodide.) This is how important iodine is in the body. There are now new therapies to infect a cancer with a virus that contains the symporter that has the ability to increase the body's capability to absorb iodine. Boston Women's Study Years ago, in Boston, 25,000 women took 5 mg of iodine a day, and were followed for five years. At the end of five years, they had a 50% decrease in the production of breast cancer. So, what we are saying is that the absence of iodine is a promoter of cancer. IQ and Iodine Iodine determines the IQ in a population. If iodine is taken during pregnancy, the child will have an IQ that is 10-15 points higher in IQ than the parents. On the West Coast, what population would be expected to have a higher IQ? The Asians. They eat seaweed. They eat seaweed all of the time with their meals. Americans maybe eat sushi once a year. There are 20 different kinds of seaweed. Need to incorporate more seaweed in the diet. Learn how to use seaweed in beans, rice, etc. And then we are told not to eat fish because of mercury. But what they don't tell you is that there are small fish that do not have mercury. Chinese Experiment with Fluoride In China, where there isn't much iodine in the population, they flouridated the water system and watched over five years to see if there were any problems. What they found was there were babies born that were cretins, morons, idiots, what ever you want to call it. And here in the US, the iodine has been depleted, taken out of the bread, milk. And we have been told to decrease taking salt in the next five years, they say, by 50%. And they fluoridate the water in the cities here, so what can we expect in the next population? Italian Study with Kids An absence of iodine in EARLY pregnancy leads to problems. In Italy, they conducted a study with 20 kids from the city (Tuscany) and 20 kids from an ocean area. In the kids from the city, where there was not enough iodine in the water or food, 11 out of 20 kids got Attention Deficit Disorder (ADD). In the kids from the ocean area, where they could eat ocean fish and products, zero of the kids got ADD. And here, in the US, between 2000 and 2004, the rate of ADD among adults rose 500%. Subtracting out Iodine If you subtract out iodine, there is decreasing intellect and increasing disease. 94% of all American women have fibrocystic disease. Just think about future generations, when there is no iodine in their system. The more iodine you eat, the longer you live and have fewer problems with cancer. Japanese Men and Iodine If you are a man, if you don't die of a heart attack, you will die from prostate cancer. In Japan, when Japanese men develop prostate cancer, they never die of it. Why? The iodine keeps the cancer from spreading beyond the capsule of the prostate. In contrast to the Japanese, in the US, 40% of the men who get prostate cancer will die of the disease. Read Dr. David Derry's book, Breast Cancer and Iodine, on this. Dr. Derry is an MD/PHD, and you can get his book on Amazon. It has the documentation that iodine is crucial for men and women. Also, 1-2 % of US men develop breast cancer. It is not due to taking estrogen. It is due to not getting enough iodine in the diet. So, iodine is crucial for women and men. Why Males Have Breasts Thyroperoxidase (TPO) is the enzyme in the thyroid gland that helps iodine get absorbed to make proteins, which is called organification. And then the production of hormones. While women have larger breasts, why do males have breast tissue? In the breast tissue, there is the enzyme, lactoperoxidase (LPO), that helps the body to absorb iodine in all tissues. That is why males have breast tissue. There is now technology to measure iodine saturation in the body.************ ********* ********* ********* ********* ********* ********* ********* ********* ********* ********* *** To Subscribe to the Amazon Listserv address an email to LISTSERV (AT) TECHUNIX (DOT) TECHNION. AC.IL and type SUBSCRIBE AMAZON-L YOURNAME in the message box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2008 Report Share Posted December 17, 2008 Very glad you posted that one Rhoda! Thank you.Love,Maracuja--- On Tue, 12/16/08, Rhoda Mead <hummingbird541 wrote:Rhoda Mead <hummingbird541 Fwd: [AMAZON] - Dr. Flechas' Speech on Iodineoleander soup Date: Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 5:22 PM I seldom post lengthy FWDs, but this one is important. I'm taking 50 mg of Iodoral, did an iodine loading test, and had a short consultation with Dr. Flechas today. First off, he hasn't seen anyone with ovarian cancer survive! Second, he believes that anyone with active cancer should take the max dose until remission is well established, whether or not he has an active thyroid. A good beginning of knowledge about iodine and bromine is the website for iodine. www.breastcancercho ices.org. Rhoda A Summary of Dr. George Flechas' Speech at the September 2008 Cancer Control Society (Editor's Notes are Mine.) "The absence of iodine in the human body is a promoter of cancer." Dr. Flechas The absence of iodine in the human body is a promoter of cancer. No iodine, lots of cancer. When you go back and look in history at the relationship between iodine and cancer, it was found that people without iodine in the thyroid get a goiter, enlargement of thyroid, and hypothyroidism. A hundred years ago, they discovered that people with a goiter have a higher rate of thyroid cancer, and increased risk of breast cancer, ovarian cancer, endometrial cancer, esophogeal cancer, etc. Intermediary Diseases Before Getting Cancer Thyroid - Normal thyroid tissue... Goiter ..... Nodules ... Enlargement ... Thyroid Cancer Breast - Normal breast tissue .. Cysts; Nodules, Scar Tissue, Enlargment, Pain ( called fibrocytic disease)... Two or three years ago, a NEJM article found that people with fibrocystic disease ended up having higher rates of having breast cancer. Ovary - Normal ovarian tissue ... Cysts, Nodules, Scar tissue, Enlargement, Pain (called polycystic disease) By late 40's, early 50's may have ovarian cancer. Amounts of Iodine in Organs For people who have been on the drug, amiodarone, an organic iodine for heart arrhythmias, and died under the influence of the drug, it was discovered after they died that the body could hold up to 1500 mg of iodine. Most people have 20 mg - 30 mg of iodine in them. The thyroid can hold up to a maximum of 50 mg., which represents less than 3% of the total iodine that the body can hold. But medical professionals have only focused on the thyroid, and have forgotten the rest of the body. Skin: The skin has 20% of the iodine. What does iodine do in the skin? Iodine helps the body to sweat. The absence of sweating is a premonition to let you know that the iodine levels in the body have declined. The absence of iodine promotes cancer. Muscles: 32% of the iodine sits in the muscles. When there are nodules, scar tissue, enlargement, and pain, called fibromyalgia. Iodine in History In history, it was only thought you needed enough iodine for the population to stave off a goiter. They say that you can get your iodine from salt. But, today, 50% of people do not cook with iodized salt. Plus, many in the fast food industry do not use iodized salt. Iodine used to be in the bread and milk, but it was taken out. The only place you can get iodine is in salt. In Napoleon's day, when iodine was discovered, it was found that iodine is what stops the development of a goiter. If you give iodine, the goiter disappears. It was the first disease that could be stopped. Now, doctors think that if you give iodine, it will cause a goiter. It is the schizophrenia of medicine. We forgot one of our first medical tenets. If you give iodine, it will get rid of a goiter. It does not induce a goiter. And, if it does, something else is wrong. Iodine and Cancer Iodine takes away the immortality of cancer cells. Cancer cells think of themselves as being immortal. Iodine induces apoptosis. It takes away the immortality of cancer cells. Iodine freezes cellular division, so that cells can not divide and multiply, and divide and multiply. Iodine stops dividing and multiplying. But if you have a wound, you need to have controlled "divide and multiply" quickly to close the wound. It was discovered in the 80's that if you put iodine on a surgical wound, when you take out the sutures, the wound will open up. Why? Iodine will not allow for divide and multiply that is necessary for a surgical wound to close. Estrogen Recent research has found that iodine has the ability to decrease estrogen production in the cells of the body. When you take estrogen for menopause, and if you are starting to take iodine, you may need more estrogen to control the menopausal symptoms. Iodine controls and almost stops the production of estrogen. And iodine decreases the ability of the cells to make receptors for estrogen. Hence, this is the medication, Tamoxifen It has the ability to block these receptors. While iodine decreases the total number of estrogen receptors that are present in the body... Sodium Iodide Symporter (NIS) The absorption of iodine is a protein known as the sodium iodide symporter (NIS) system. The symporter is found in the thyroid and in all cell tissues of the body. The symporter is a transport protein that transports the iodine from a low concentration to a high concentration zone. There is a high concentration in the thyroid and low concentration in the tissues. Iodine has the ability to transport iodine against a gradient, and push it into the tissue. In the breast, two transport systems: Pendrin and NIS. In the breast, the chloride channel, the pendrin, is operational from the beginning. But, in breast cancer, the NIS becomes active in the breast cancer cells. The breast cancer cell, sensing something is wrong, increases NIS to absorb iodine to get rid of the cancer. In Dr. Christine Horner's book, The Making of a Warrior Goddess, she states that 80% of breast cancer cells show evidence of active absorption through the sodium iodide symporter. EXPLOITING NIS IN MICE STUDIES; You can take the sodium iodide symporter - the gene for the symporter -and put it into an AIDS-type virus, a retrovirus, that has the ability to insert genes into the DNA of cells. Lung Cancer Mice Study: Researchers at UCLA put the gene for the symporter into a retrovirus, then put it in and infected the cancer cells of mice with oat cell lung cancer, and all of a sudden the cells could absorb iodine. Result: There was 95% cell death in just a few days. (Editor's Note: From the Lung Cancer Study: This is the first report demonstrating that a therapeutic dose of nonradioactive iodide has potent efficacy and high selectivity against lung cancer when used in combination with genetic modification of cancer cells to express the NIS/TPOgenes.) Prostate Cancer Mice Study: In this Mayo study, researchers loaded NIS in the prostate of mice and gave them iodine and and in a matter of days the prostate cancer was gone. (Editor's Note: In this prostate cancer study, they unfortunately used radioactive iodide.) This is how important iodine is in the body. There are now new therapies to infect a cancer with a virus that contains the symporter that has the ability to increase the body's capability to absorb iodine. Boston Women's Study Years ago, in Boston, 25,000 women took 5 mg of iodine a day, and were followed for five years. At the end of five years, they had a 50% decrease in the production of breast cancer. So, what we are saying is that the absence of iodine is a promoter of cancer. IQ and Iodine Iodine determines the IQ in a population. If iodine is taken during pregnancy, the child will have an IQ that is 10-15 points higher in IQ than the parents. On the West Coast, what population would be expected to have a higher IQ? The Asians. They eat seaweed. They eat seaweed all of the time with their meals. Americans maybe eat sushi once a year. There are 20 different kinds of seaweed. Need to incorporate more seaweed in the diet. Learn how to use seaweed in beans, rice, etc. And then we are told not to eat fish because of mercury. But what they don't tell you is that there are small fish that do not have mercury. Chinese Experiment with Fluoride In China, where there isn't much iodine in the population, they flouridated the water system and watched over five years to see if there were any problems. What they found was there were babies born that were cretins, morons, idiots, what ever you want to call it. And here in the US, the iodine has been depleted, taken out of the bread, milk. And we have been told to decrease taking salt in the next five years, they say, by 50%. And they fluoridate the water in the cities here, so what can we expect in the next population? Italian Study with Kids An absence of iodine in EARLY pregnancy leads to problems. In Italy, they conducted a study with 20 kids from the city (Tuscany) and 20 kids from an ocean area. In the kids from the city, where there was not enough iodine in the water or food, 11 out of 20 kids got Attention Deficit Disorder (ADD). In the kids from the ocean area, where they could eat ocean fish and products, zero of the kids got ADD. And here, in the US, between 2000 and 2004, the rate of ADD among adults rose 500%. Subtracting out Iodine If you subtract out iodine, there is decreasing intellect and increasing disease. 94% of all American women have fibrocystic disease. Just think about future generations, when there is no iodine in their system. The more iodine you eat, the longer you live and have fewer problems with cancer. Japanese Men and Iodine If you are a man, if you don't die of a heart attack, you will die from prostate cancer. In Japan, when Japanese men develop prostate cancer, they never die of it. Why? The iodine keeps the cancer from spreading beyond the capsule of the prostate. In contrast to the Japanese, in the US, 40% of the men who get prostate cancer will die of the disease. Read Dr. David Derry's book, Breast Cancer and Iodine, on this. Dr. Derry is an MD/PHD, and you can get his book on Amazon. It has the documentation that iodine is crucial for men and women. Also, 1-2 % of US men develop breast cancer. It is not due to taking estrogen. It is due to not getting enough iodine in the diet. So, iodine is crucial for women and men. Why Males Have Breasts Thyroperoxidase (TPO) is the enzyme in the thyroid gland that helps iodine get absorbed to make proteins, which is called organification. And then the production of hormones. While women have larger breasts, why do males have breast tissue? In the breast tissue, there is the enzyme, lactoperoxidase (LPO), that helps the body to absorb iodine in all tissues. That is why males have breast tissue. There is now technology to measure iodine saturation in the body. ************ ********* ********* ********* ********* ********* ********* ********* ********* ********* ********* *** To Subscribe to the Amazon Listserv address an email to LISTSERV (AT) TECHUNIX (DOT) TECHNION. AC.IL and type SUBSCRIBE AMAZON-L YOURNAME in the message box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2008 Report Share Posted December 18, 2008 He may know a lot about iodine, but I doubt he knows much, if anything, about oleander. And I personally cannot imagine heeding the advice of anyone who says stop taking all supplements except iodine for a cancer they have never heard of anyone surviving - which tells me that they really have no clue as to how to best treat it. Ovarian cancer survival rates have been quite low, but I imagine that the chances of success with oleander are pretty good - as they seem to be for most cancers. And I note that those who read my post "Unraveling the Mysteries of the Cancer Fighting Oleander Plant" will find two Japaneses studies from last year that found no fewer than six new compounds in oleander which individually had specific activity against ovarian cancer cells (and one had greater activity than a popular chemo drug). Combine that with the fact that oleander's power comes from the synergistic cancer fighting and immune boosting activies of many combined compounds which is much, much greater than any single isolated compound and I would say that there is great promise. Of course, much depends on the stage and spread of the cancer, the amount of damage from prior chemo, the state of the immune system and health of the liver, etc., of the individual patient. Even so, oleander seldom fails with anyone - especially when it is part of a comprehensive protocol which includes iodine and other essentials. We are constantly updating the content and you are sure to find something interesting or entertaining. Plus, website traffic helps improve our ranking with the search engines, meaning more e-book and affiliate sales plus more positive traffic and results for our sponsors ads. For more information see oleander soup , Matt Ackerman <agzooer wrote:>> No one with ovarian cancer survive? Who is he? Does he live under a rock...no disrespect intended? Many people survive ovarian cancer. I know of 3 and I don't know many people. With all do respect...even with 'invasive treaments' I think the survival rate is like fifty percent. Or am I missing something here? Is this with oleander? > > --- On Tue, 12/16/08, Rhoda Mead hummingbird541 wrote:> > Rhoda Mead hummingbird541 Fwd: [AMAZON] - Dr. Flechas' Speech on Iodine> oleander soup > Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 8:22 PM> > > > > > > I seldom post lengthy FWDs, but this one is important. I'm taking 50 mg of Iodoral, did an iodine loading test, and had a short consultation with Dr. Flechas today. First off, he hasn't seen anyone with ovarian cancer survive! Second, he believes that anyone with active cancer should take the max dose until remission is well established, whether or not he has an active thyroid. A good beginning of knowledge about iodine and bromine is the website for iodine. www.breastcancercho ices.org. Rhoda> > > > > > A Summary of Dr. George Flechas' Speech at the September 2008 > Cancer Control Society> (Editor's Notes are Mine.)> > "The absence of iodine in the human body is a promoter of cancer."> Dr. Flechas> > > The absence of iodine in the human body is a promoter of cancer. No iodine, lots of cancer.> When you go back and look in history at the relationship between iodine and cancer, it was found that people without iodine in the thyroid get a goiter, enlargement of thyroid, and hypothyroidism. A hundred years ago, they discovered that people with a goiter have a higher rate of thyroid cancer, and increased risk of breast cancer, ovarian cancer, endometrial cancer, esophogeal cancer, etc.> > > Intermediary Diseases Before Getting Cancer> Thyroid - Normal thyroid tissue... Goiter .... Nodules ... Enlargement ... Thyroid Cancer> Breast - Normal breast tissue .. Cysts; Nodules, Scar Tissue, Enlargment, Pain ( called fibrocytic disease)... Two or three years ago, a NEJM article found that people with fibrocystic disease ended up having higher rates of having breast cancer.> Ovary - Normal ovarian tissue ... Cysts, Nodules, Scar tissue, Enlargement, Pain (called polycystic disease) By late 40's, early 50's may have ovarian cancer.> > > Amounts of Iodine in Organs> For people who have been on the drug, amiodarone, an organic iodine for heart arrhythmias, and died under the influence of the drug, it was discovered after they died that the body could hold up to 1500 mg of iodine. > Most people have 20 mg - 30 mg of iodine in them.> The thyroid can hold up to a maximum of 50 mg., which represents less than 3% of the total iodine that the body can hold. But medical professionals have only focused on the thyroid, and have forgotten the rest of the body.> Skin: The skin has 20% of the iodine. What does iodine do in the skin? Iodine helps the body to sweat. The absence of sweating is a premonition to let you know that the iodine levels in the body have declined. The absence of iodine promotes cancer.> Muscles: 32% of the iodine sits in the muscles. When there are nodules, scar tissue, enlargement, and pain, called fibromyalgia.> > > Iodine in History> In history, it was only thought you needed enough iodine for the population to stave off a goiter. They say that you can get your iodine from salt. But, today, 50% of people do not cook with iodized salt. Plus, many in the fast food industry do not use iodized salt. Iodine used to be in the bread and milk, but it was taken out. The only place you can get iodine is in salt.> In Napoleon's day, when iodine was discovered, it was found that iodine is what stops the development of a goiter. If you give iodine, the goiter disappears. It was the first disease that could be stopped. > Now, doctors think that if you give iodine, it will cause a goiter. It is the schizophrenia of medicine.> We forgot one of our first medical tenets. If you give iodine, it will get rid of a goiter. It does not induce a goiter. And, if it does, something else is wrong.> > > Iodine and Cancer> Iodine takes away the immortality of cancer cells. Cancer cells think of themselves as being immortal. Iodine induces apoptosis. It takes away the immortality of cancer cells. Iodine freezes cellular division, so that cells can not divide and multiply, and divide and multiply. Iodine stops dividing and multiplying.> But if you have a wound, you need to have controlled "divide and multiply" quickly to close the wound. It was discovered in the 80's that if you put iodine on a surgical wound, when you take out the sutures, the wound will open up. Why? Iodine will not allow for divide and multiply that is necessary for a surgical wound to close.> > > Estrogen> Recent research has found that iodine has the ability to decrease estrogen production in the cells of the body. When you take estrogen for menopause, and if you are starting to take iodine, you may need more estrogen to control the menopausal symptoms. Iodine controls and almost stops the production of estrogen. And iodine decreases the ability of the cells to make receptors for estrogen. Hence, this is the medication, Tamoxifen It has the ability to block these receptors. While iodine decreases the total number of estrogen receptors that are present in the body...> > > > Sodium Iodide Symporter (NIS)> The absorption of iodine is a protein known as the sodium iodide symporter (NIS) system. The symporter is found in the thyroid and in all cell tissues of the body. The symporter is a transport protein that transports the iodine from a low concentration to a high concentration zone. There is a high concentration in the thyroid and low concentration in the tissues. Iodine has the ability to transport iodine against a gradient, and push it into the tissue.> In the breast, two transport systems: Pendrin and NIS.> In the breast, the chloride channel, the pendrin, is operational from the beginning.> But, in breast cancer, the NIS becomes active in the breast cancer cells. The breast cancer cell, sensing something is wrong, increases NIS to absorb iodine to get rid of the cancer. In Dr. Christine Horner's book, The Making of a Warrior Goddess, she states that 80% of breast cancer cells show evidence of active absorption through the sodium iodide symporter.> > EXPLOITING NIS IN MICE STUDIES; You can take the sodium iodide symporter - the gene for the symporter -and put it into an AIDS-type virus, a retrovirus, that has the ability to insert genes into the DNA of cells. > Lung Cancer Mice Study: Researchers at UCLA put the gene for the symporter into a retrovirus, then put it in and infected the cancer cells of mice with oat cell lung cancer, and all of a sudden the cells could absorb iodine. Result: There was 95% cell death in just a few days. (Editor's Note: From the Lung Cancer Study: This is the first report demonstrating that a therapeutic dose of nonradioactive iodide has potent efficacy and high selectivity against lung cancer when used in combination with genetic modification of cancer cells to express the NIS/TPOgenes.)> Prostate Cancer Mice Study: In this Mayo study, researchers loaded NIS in the prostate of mice and gave them iodine and and in a matter of days the prostate cancer was gone. (Editor's Note: In this prostate cancer study, they unfortunately used radioactive iodide.)> This is how important iodine is in the body.> There are now new therapies to infect a cancer with a virus that contains the symporter that has the ability to increase the body's capability to absorb iodine.> > > > Boston Women's Study> Years ago, in Boston, 25,000 women took 5 mg of iodine a day, and were followed for five years. At the end of five years, they had a 50% decrease in the production of breast cancer. So, what we are saying is that the absence of iodine is a promoter of cancer.> > > IQ and Iodine> Iodine determines the IQ in a population. If iodine is taken during pregnancy, the child will have an IQ that is 10-15 points higher in IQ than the parents. On the West Coast, what population would be expected to have a higher IQ? The Asians. They eat seaweed. They eat seaweed all of the time with their meals. Americans maybe eat sushi once a year. There are 20 different kinds of seaweed. Need to incorporate more seaweed in the diet. Learn how to use seaweed in beans, rice, etc. And then we are told not to eat fish because of mercury. But what they don't tell you is that there are small fish that do not have mercury.> > > Chinese Experiment with Fluoride> In China, where there isn't much iodine in the population, they flouridated the water system and watched over five years to see if there were any problems. What they found was there were babies born that were cretins, morons, idiots, what ever you want to call it.> And here in the US, the iodine has been depleted, taken out of the bread, milk. And we have been told to decrease taking salt in the next five years, they say, by 50%. And they fluoridate the water in the cities here, so what can we expect in the next population?> > > Italian Study with Kids> An absence of iodine in EARLY pregnancy leads to problems. In Italy, they conducted a study with 20 kids from the city (Tuscany) and 20 kids from an ocean area. In the kids from the city, where there was not enough iodine in the water or food, 11 out of 20 kids got Attention Deficit Disorder (ADD). In the kids from the ocean area, where they could eat ocean fish and products, zero of the kids got ADD. > And here, in the US, between 2000 and 2004, the rate of ADD among adults rose 500%.> > > Subtracting out Iodine> If you subtract out iodine, there is decreasing intellect and increasing disease.> 94% of all American women have fibrocystic disease. Just think about future generations, when there is no iodine in their system.> The more iodine you eat, the longer you live and have fewer problems with cancer.> > > Japanese Men and Iodine> If you are a man, if you don't die of a heart attack, you will die from prostate cancer.> In Japan, when Japanese men develop prostate cancer, they never die of it. Why? The iodine keeps the cancer from spreading beyond the capsule of the prostate.> In contrast to the Japanese, in the US, 40% of the men who get prostate cancer will die of the disease.> Read Dr. David Derry's book, Breast Cancer and Iodine, on this. Dr. Derry is an MD/PHD, and you can get his book on Amazon. It has the documentation that iodine is crucial for men and women.> Also, 1-2 % of US men develop breast cancer. It is not due to taking estrogen. It is due to not getting enough iodine in the diet.> So, iodine is crucial for women and men.> > > Why Males Have Breasts> Thyroperoxidase (TPO) is the enzyme in the thyroid gland that helps iodine get absorbed to make proteins, which is called organification. And then the production of hormones.> While women have larger breasts, why do males have breast tissue? In the breast tissue, there is the enzyme, lactoperoxidase (LPO), that helps the body to absorb iodine in all tissues. That is why males have breast tissue. > > There is now technology to measure iodine saturation in the body.> > > ************ ********* ********* ********* ********* ********* ********* ********* ********* ********* ********* *** To Subscribe to the Amazon Listserv address an email to LISTSERV (AT) TECHUNIX (DOT) TECHNION. AC.IL and type SUBSCRIBE AMAZON-L YOURNAME in the message box.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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