MSM

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, " Soseneda " <soseneda@k...> wrote:

> I use MSM and Glucosamine Chondroitin for my arthritis (I have 'junior'

> arthritis as it has been nicknamed), and for general joint health.

 

I've tried Glucosamine Chondroitin, but it doesn't seem to do the trick for me,

works great for my mom though. When my pup was alive, I gave it to her to ease

the arthritis she had developed and it seemed to work good for her to. Guess

I'm just an odd ball.

 

> MSM does not have the penetrating properties the DMSO does, so needs

to be either taken internally, or placed in a good penetrating lotion or oil

base.

 

I think the reason the DMSO works so good for me is the penetrating properties

because it carries the arnica, infused lavender oil and ginger I add to it into

the body. I'm just real careful using it so I don't get anything into my body

that might be harmful. Of course the arnica itself is also a great healer.

What would you recommend as a penetrating lotion or oil base? I would like to

try MSM to see what it does for me. Can't hurt.........

 

Thanks bunches Soseneda,

Carol

 

 

 

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Carol writes:

" I've tried Glucosamine Chondroitin, but it doesn't seem to do the

trick for me, works great for my mom though. "

 

From my understanding of arthritis, there are so many variables that no

one 'cure' will work for every one. The Glucosamine Chondroitin works to

make the cartilage more supple and more resilient. But not all arthritis

sufferers need that.

 

" I think the reason the DMSO works so good for me is the penetrating

properties because it carries the arnica, infused lavender oil and

ginger I add to it into the body. I'm just real careful using it so I

don't get anything into my body that might be harmful. Of course the

arnica itself is also a great healer. "

 

Yes, I can definitely see that point. You might try adding cayenne to

the formula when you use the MSM. The cayenne is of course a great

source of heat, it also improves circulation (especially in the

capillaries), and helps to open up pores. I have found that the addition

of cayenne and garlic to all of my arthritis formulas have improved

them. I also use the three you mentioned.

 

" What would you recommend as a penetrating lotion or oil base? I would

like to try MSM to see what it does for me. Can't hurt......... "

 

Well, depending on how you make it, Grapeseed oil is a good penetrating

oil, as long as it has not been heated too much. I also like to use

Safflower oils in my lotions as the bulk of my oil phase. Just infuse

the herbs in the oil (the ones with the oil soluble constituents).

 

The lavender and cayenne need to be in oil, to get the stuff you need

for arthritis. The ginger needs to be in both oil and water (or any

water substance, I usually use aloe juice here). And the arnica works

best in a tincture (add it to hot, not boiling water phase of a lotion).

 

If you add garlic though, you will need to add an anti-oxidant and keep

it refrigerated.

 

I have also used avocado oil to make a paste with powdered MSM and

cayenne, for when the pain is very bad. This will cut the intense pain

immediately and take away any 'cramping' due to it. But, it shouldn't be

used often, and should be followed by your regular arthritis cream, or a

treatment of milk fat of some sort.

 

Blessings,

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Can anyone recommend a good brand of MSM?Thanks,Tonya

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Hi!, Marci, could you please specify what MSM stands for. Thank You, MarshaMarci <twilli55 wrote: Is MSM something you should take regularly because we "need" it or is it an "extra" something to boost your health? I took it last year but had so many problems taking it (I was taking 250mg every 2-3 days and my low blood sugar got uncontrollable and I shook all the time, etc...) so I couldn't take it anymore and stopped. I was wondering if I should try it again if I need it...Marci

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I am curiouos - does it help your Fibro? Do you need to take this much or would

a lesser amount be as benficial?

 

Fran

 

> So, I order MSM tablets and take those, but they are expensive. Is

> there another way to get this? I usually take 4-6 caplets a day,

> that's about 4,000 to 6,000 mg a day. I take it for my fibromyalgia.

>

> Thanks for all the help!

> ~Robin

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They have crystals and you can stir some in juice. I use the MRM brand 500 g.... I buy it for my animals. I used it a couple of times after a hard day in the garden and it worked well for me.

 

 

 

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snickers2261

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Saturday, September 23, 2006 6:17 PM

Herbal Remedies - MSM

 

 

So, I order MSM tablets and take those, but they are expensive. Is there another way to get this? I usually take 4-6 caplets a day, that's about 4,000 to 6,000 mg a day. I take it for my fibromyalgia.Thanks for all the help!~Robin

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Go with the one pound powder I was talking about.

Tastes a little bitter when mixed only with water, but when mixed with your favorite juice, you'll hardly notice it and it is assimilated very quickly this way making redundant the necessity of digesting a tablet or capsule.

Love,

Doc

 

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snickers2261

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Saturday, September 23, 2006 9:17 PM

Herbal Remedies - MSM

 

 

So, I order MSM tablets and take those, but they are expensive. Is there another way to get this? I usually take 4-6 caplets a day, that's about 4,000 to 6,000 mg a day. I take it for my fibromyalgia.Thanks for all the help!~Robin

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Well, it sure seems to be. Especially when the weather changed, I took

more and it helped with the pain. I usually don't take that much every

day, just when I need extra. I'm not totally positive this is the best

thing to take for fibromyalgia, I'm still in the process of trying

different things.

~Robin

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Gotcha! I'm going to order some from you after the 1st!! Hopefully I

will make what I have last until I get some more!

~Robin

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herbal remedies , " snickers2261 "

<snickers2261 wrote:

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> Well, it sure seems to be. Especially when the weather changed, I

took

> more and it helped with the pain. I usually don't take that much

every

> day, just when I need extra. I'm not totally positive this is the

best

> thing to take for fibromyalgia, I'm still in the process of trying

> different things.

> ~Robin

>

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For Fran:

I have taken MSM for an inflammatory disease for the past 3-4 years on the recommendation of a friend who has Chronic Fatigue Syndrome. It has been a lifesaver for me. You can buy it at your local feed store 99% pure, very inexpensive, $6.95 for a lb. jar. Mix it in the liquid of your choice. I take at least 2 teaspoons daily and sometimes a tblespn. Adjust your dose according to what works best for you, BUT always make sure you take it with the trace mineral molybdenum. I can send you some information why if you want to email me privately, or if the group would like to read it, just let me know. Hope this helps, Betty

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What does MSM stand for?

 

Ilene

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MSM = Methyl Sulfonyl Methane

 

Alobar

 

On 10/24/06, I. Crawford <willow.myst wrote:

> What does MSM stand for?

>

> Ilene

>

>

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MSM can variously stand for Main Stream Media, Main Stream Medicine and Methylsulfonylmethane, a natually occuring compound found in our living tissues which is sold as a supplement to support healthy connective tissues like tendons, ligaments, and muscle and, like its close relative DMSO, is used to help topical creams and ointment penetrate deep into the skin and tissue.

oleander soup , Matt Ackerman <agzooer wrote:>> I'm so confused. MSM. What exactly is it? I've googled and got abbreviations for lots of things. I thought it stood for "Main Stream Medicine". So obviously I'm wrong. Thanks in advanced.

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Thank you.

 

So this would be good for someone (my husband) who has had knee and spine surgery. He has a lot of issues with his knee hurting and obviously lots of back pain. He's down to only taking about 60 percocets every 3 months. This is down from 2 5/325's three to four times a day where he started at 4 years ago. He went completely off at one time because he felt he was becoming very tolerant and addicted. Then after a six month break he went back on them at 1/2 a pill as needed. This is necessary for him to work but only takes them as a last resort now obviously.Usually when he gets a new script he still has some left in his bottle but doesn't want the doctor to shorten his dose incase.

 

As I was typing this I remembered he was taking something from the health food store for his problems and he varified this is actually what he was taking. The MSM. He claims it didn't help him. He took it for a few months. We were buying it from Wild Oats. Is there a specific brand he should try. He has no clue as to what he was taking before. Chances are we just bought what was the cheapest. --- On Sun, 12/7/08, Tony wrote:

Tony MSMoleander soup Date: Sunday, December 7, 2008, 7:44 PM

 

 

 

MSM can variously stand for Main Stream Media, Main Stream Medicine and Methylsulfonylmetha ne, a natually occuring compound found in our living tissues which is sold as a supplement to support healthy connective tissues like tendons, ligaments, and muscle and, like its close relative DMSO, is used to help topical creams and ointment penetrate deep into the skin and tissue.

 

oleander soup, Matt Ackerman <agzooer wrote:>> I'm so confused. MSM. What exactly is it? I've googled and got abbreviations for lots of things. I thought it stood for "Main Stream Medicine". So obviously I'm wrong. Thanks in advanced.

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The products I am familiar with and recommend are:

Liquid Life Joint Care (which contains MSM)

Advanced Colloidal Silver

Advanced Colloidal Gold

75 Plant Based Minerals

Bromelain

I also like silica, coconut oil and a good source of omega-3's such as Barlean's flaxseed oil

I have taken all of the above myself (and still take most on a regular basis) and they worked wonders for joint and back pain I have had (I too had back surgery and a shoulder injury), and they worked for my 80 plus year old aunt's back pain too.

oleander soup , Matt Ackerman <agzooer wrote:>> Thank you.> > So this would be good for someone (my husband) who has had knee and spine surgery. He has a lot of issues with his knee hurting and obviously lots of back pain. He's down to only taking about 60 percocets every 3 months. This is down from 2 5/325's three to four times a day where he started at 4 years ago. He went completely off at one time because he felt he was becoming very tolerant and addicted. Then after a six month break he went back on them at 1/2 a pill as needed. This is necessary for him to work but only takes them as a last resort now obviously.Usually when he gets a new script he still has some left in his bottle but doesn't want the doctor to shorten his dose incase.> > As I was typing this I remembered he was taking something from the health food store for his problems and he varified this is actually what he was taking. The MSM. He claims it didn't help him. He took it for a few months. We were buying it from Wild Oats. Is there a specific brand he should try. He has no clue as to what he was taking before. Chances are we just bought what was the cheapest. > > --- On Sun, 12/7/08, Tony wrote:>

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Hope I can step in here on the MSM issue....I have been taking this product by Kornax for a few months now. It is the only thing that helped with my neck problems, probably from being on the pc for too long daily! maybe shoulder strap purses too!

 

However, I have found MSM to be great for me. You can find Kornax products on the internet, I have bought it in pill form and also powder form where I just add it to water. I didn't find it pricey at all. Here is a link for you.....Ionic Minerals - MSM - Vitamin Supplements Superior Liquid Ionic Minerals, MSM products and Vitamin Supplements at discount prices from Kornax.com delivered to your home. Kornax Health Enclopedia for ...

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On 12/7/2008, Matt Ackerman (agzooer) wrote:

> As I was typing this I remembered he was taking something from the

> health food store for his problems and he varified this is actually

> what he was taking. The MSM. He claims it didn't help him. He took

> it for a few months. We were buying it from Wild Oats. Is there a

> specific brand he should try. He has no clue as to what he was taking

> before. Chances are we just bought what was the cheapest.

 

How much was he taking each day? Was he taking any of the co-factors

(glucosamione and chondroiten) with it? How much and what brand of each?

 

There are lots of crap brands of glucosamine and chondroiten out there

that claim to have far more active ingredient than they actually do...

 

I wish I had a good recommendation for quality brands, but I don't -

anyone else?

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Thanks for the input. That looks like a good source of MSM if you want to order it separately. As I said though, I personally used the products I recommended as did my aunt and we both had great success. Plus, most of them are available from our friends at Utopia Silver at a 15% discount with our group discount code of LR001.

People who spend hours daily at the computer will tend to get slumped posture, especially with the neck bending forward unnaturally (I have that problem myself). In addition, you can in time get shoulder and joint pain as well as carpal tunnel and other similar problems and loss of vision.

To guard against such problems, take breaks every hour or so. Wring your wrists, rotate your shoulders and arms and exercise your eyes by looking off in the distance then back close up at a finger in front of your face. Keeping your head straight, move the finger to the left, right, up and down. Do the same thing to spots on a distant wall. Blink your eyes rapidly for several seconds. Better still, look at this article:

Deepak Chopra's Eye Exercises

/healthnews.htm

To guard against slumping necks and shoulders, take time daily to lay on your back on a bed and hang your shoulders, neck and head over the bed and relax so that they bend towards the floor. That is what our own Dr. G told me to do.

oleander soup , evian793 wrote:>> Hope I can step in here on the MSM issue....

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He probably wasn't taking enough...often people feel a few tabs is enough. I get Vitabase it is a great product not terribly expensive, if you buy three you get one free. It also has Hyaluronic Acid in it, I give it to my dog as well. (vitabase.com).

Give it a whirl.

 

Tammatha

 

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Simon

oleander soup

Monday, December 08, 2008 5:52 AM

Re: MSM

 

 

On 12/7/2008, Matt Ackerman (agzooer ) wrote:> As I was typing this I remembered he was taking something from the> health food store for his problems and he varified this is actually> what he was taking. The MSM. He claims it didn't help him. He took> it for a few months. We were buying it from Wild Oats. Is there a> specific brand he should try. He has no clue as to what he was taking> before. Chances are we just bought what was the cheapest.How much was he taking each day? Was he taking any of the co-factors(glucosamione and chondroiten) with it? How much and what brand of each?There are lots of crap brands of glucosamine and chondroiten out therethat claim to have far more active ingredient than they actually do...I wish I had a good recommendation for quality brands, but I don't -anyone else?

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On 12/8/2008 3:34 PM, Tammatha wrote:

>> How much was he taking each day? Was he taking any of the

>> co-factors (glucosamione and chondroiten) with it? How much and

>> what brand of each?

 

> He probably wasn't taking enough...

 

Thats not an answer (to the first question)...

 

And what about the 2nd and 3rd questions?

 

>> There are lots of crap brands of glucosamine and chondroiten out

>> there that claim to have far more active ingredient than they

>> actually do...

>>

>> I wish I had a good recommendation for quality brands, but I don't

>> - anyone else?

 

> often people feel a few tabs is enough.

 

Whats a 'tab'? 50mg? 500mg? 1gm?

 

In my experience, making decisions like this based on one's 'feeling' is

not necessarily the best way to go about it.

 

> I get Vitabase it is a great product not terribly expensive, if you

> buy three you get one free. It also has Hyaluronic Acid in it, I give

> it to my dog as well. (vitabase.com). Give it a whirl.

 

I'm guessing you are talking about MSM here... quality (and inexpensive)

MSM is relatively easy to find. I was talking about the all-important

co-factors: Glucosamine and Chondroiten...

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If you don't mind bulk powders, you can get excellent prices by the pound at:

 

http://www.herbalcom.com/store.php3?list=cats & alpha=yes & lett=a-dA-D & session=734705202daf77794e9050142dfd079d

 

Powder or capsules are available at:

 

 

http://www.beyond-a-century.com/

 

- Steve

 

 

oleander soup oleander soup On Behalf Of SimonMonday, December 08, 2008 1:13 PMoleander soup Subject: Re: MSM

 

 

On 12/8/2008 3:34 PM, Tammatha wrote:>> How much was he taking each day? Was he taking any of the>> co-factors (glucosamione and chondroiten) with it? How much and>> what brand of each?> He probably wasn't taking enough...Thats not an answer (to the first question)... ;)And what about the 2nd and 3rd questions?>> There are lots of crap brands of glucosamine and chondroiten out>> there that claim to have far more active ingredient than they>> actually do...>> >> I wish I had a good recommendation for quality brands, but I don't>> - anyone else?> often people feel a few tabs is enough.Whats a 'tab'? 50mg? 500mg? 1gm?In my experience, making decisions like this based on one's 'feeling' isnot necessarily the best way to go about it.> I get Vitabase it is a great product not terribly expensive, if you> buy three you get one free. It also has Hyaluronic Acid in it, I give> it to my dog as well. (vitabase.com). Give it a whirl.I'm guessing you are talking about MSM here... quality (and inexpensive)MSM is relatively easy to find. I was talking about the all-importantco-factors: Glucosamine and Chondroiten...

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What? Don't get this reply, is it a reply???

 

Tammatha

 

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Simon

oleander soup

Monday, December 08, 2008 1:12 PM

Re: MSM

 

 

On 12/8/2008 3:34 PM, Tammatha wrote:>> How much was he taking each day? Was he taking any of the>> co-factors (glucosamione and chondroiten) with it? How much and>> what brand of each?> He probably wasn't taking enough...Thats not an answer (to the first question)... ;)And what about the 2nd and 3rd questions?>> There are lots of crap brands of glucosamine and chondroiten out>> there that claim to have far more active ingredient than they>> actually do...>> >> I wish I had a good recommendation for quality brands, but I don't>> - anyone else?> often people feel a few tabs is enough.Whats a 'tab'? 50mg? 500mg? 1gm?In my experience, making decisions like this based on one's 'feeling' isnot necessarily the best way to go about it.> I get Vitabase it is a great product not terribly expensive, if you> buy three you get one free. It also has Hyaluronic Acid in it, I give> it to my dog as well. (vitabase.com). Give it a whirl.I'm guessing you are talking about MSM here... quality (and inexpensive)MSM is relatively easy to find. I was talking about the all-importantco-factors: Glucosamine and Chondroiten...

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Thank you for all the responses.

 

We just grabbed a bottle from the Health Food store. I have the bottle in front of me. It says Vegetarian MSM 1,000 mg Country Life. It directs you to take 1 a day and I think that's what he was doing. We're just learning. We do not know a lot about supplements but are grateful to get the opportunity to learn from every one. He's more than willing to try again. He faithfully took it for 90 days and then just didn't get another bottle. He'd heard about it from a friend of ours in passing. Thought he'd give it a try. I had actually forgotten about it until I asked what MSM was. :-) I'm going to suggest he look at the products offered on the silver website...with the discount and all we can't refuse that by no means. --- On Mon, 12/8/08, Simon <tanstaafl wrote:

Simon <tanstaaflRe: MSMoleander soup Date: Monday, December 8, 2008, 8:52 AM

 

 

On 12/7/2008, Matt Ackerman (agzooer ) wrote:> As I was typing this I remembered he was taking something from the> health food store for his problems and he varified this is actually> what he was taking. The MSM. He claims it didn't help him. He took> it for a few months. We were buying it from Wild Oats. Is there a> specific brand he should try. He has no clue as to what he was taking> before. Chances are we just bought what was the cheapest.How much was he taking each day? Was he taking any of the co-factors(glucosamione and chondroiten) with it? How much and what brand of each?There are lots of crap brands of glucosamine and chondroiten out therethat claim to have far more active ingredient than they actually do...I wish I had a good recommendation for quality brands, but I don't -anyone

else?

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What? Don't get this reply, is it a reply???

Just consider it a farewell message from someone who just wanted to argue with and lecture other members.

oleander soup , "Tammatha" <tammatha wrote: