Guest guest Posted December 5, 2008 Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 Hi I have late stage cancer and after taking one bottle of OPC about 6 weeks ago I have just received 6 more bottles. Should I start immediately on 6 per day or more. IP6 I have been taking for about 4 weeks now 6 per day. LDN have been taking 1 4.5gm per day 30 days. I also have some CELLECT multivitamin just started taking 4 scoops per day today. only have 3 tubs and can't afford any more. I had colon cancer. resection in august 07 and then 6 mths chemo. mets in liver discovered july 2008 inoperable. have been on budwig protocol for 10 weeks. plus doing coffee enemas 2 per day. was going to do liver cleanse but haven't' worked out how to fit in with budwig. mets now in lungs and lymph glands and multiple in liver. Liver function is good kidney also good. just very tired and a bit nauseas. My family wants me to start chemo immediately. I'm 53 with a 12 year old son. never been so scared in my life. any advice appreciated Regards Kim Melbourne Australia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2008 Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 Kim, How many OPC were you taking? You don't say. 4 - 6 a day would be ok but take two, two, two or two and two, not all of them at once. IPp6 can be doubled with no problems. If I were you I'd take 600 mg of R Lipoic Acid (better than Alpha Lipoic Acid) and a good dose of silymarin for the liver. Look into colloidal silver too... perhaps experimenting with a half to one cup throughout the day. Utopia Silver makes an excellent product or you can make your own with nothing but distilled water and .999 fine silver. Watch your diet... no sugar, alcohol, coffee, red meat and lots of organic veggies raw and cooked. Good luck. Bob - " kim290155 " <kim.watson <oleander soup > Thursday, December 04, 2008 4:44 PM OPC and IP6 > Hi > > I have late stage cancer and after taking one bottle of OPC about 6 > weeks ago I have just received 6 more bottles. Should I start > immediately on 6 per day or more. > > IP6 I have been taking for about 4 weeks now 6 per day. > LDN have been taking 1 4.5gm per day 30 days. > I also have some CELLECT multivitamin just started taking 4 scoops per > day today. only have 3 tubs and can't afford any more. > > I had colon cancer. resection in august 07 and then 6 mths chemo. > > mets in liver discovered july 2008 inoperable. > > have been on budwig protocol for 10 weeks. > plus doing coffee enemas 2 per day. was going to do liver cleanse but > haven't' worked out how to fit in with budwig. > > mets now in lungs and lymph glands and multiple in liver. > > Liver function is good kidney also good. just very tired and a bit > nauseas. > > My family wants me to start chemo immediately. I'm 53 with a 12 year > old son. never been so scared in my life. any advice appreciated > > Regards > Kim > Melbourne > Australia > --- > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 I am now taking 2 2 2 of both OPC and IP6 My diet is based on the budwig protocol, just having trouble at the moment with nausea. does anybody know how long it should take me to adjust to the OPC. I'm also trying to put the rest of the protocol (that tony suggested) together but am struglling to find dosage info. Maybe it is just the state i am in at the moment being mostly bedridden so if somebody could point me in the right direction would be appreciate. I looked at colloidal silver in Australia , as per normal, everybody saying that their stuff/system is the only on that works. IS the molecule size crucial? how do you know if the one you buy is any good? Kim oleander soup , " Bob Banever " <bbanever wrote: > > Kim, > > How many OPC were you taking? You don't say. 4 - 6 a day would be ok > but take two, two, two or two and two, not all of them at once. IPp6 can be > doubled with no problems. If I were you I'd take 600 mg of R Lipoic Acid > (better than Alpha Lipoic Acid) and a good dose of silymarin for the liver. > Look into colloidal silver too... perhaps experimenting with a half to one > cup throughout the day. Utopia Silver makes an excellent product or you > can make your own with nothing but distilled water and .999 fine silver. > Watch your diet... no sugar, alcohol, coffee, red meat and lots of organic > veggies raw and cooked. Good luck. > > Bob > - > " kim290155 " <kim.watson > <oleander soup > > Thursday, December 04, 2008 4:44 PM > OPC and IP6 > > > > Hi > > > > I have late stage cancer and after taking one bottle of OPC about 6 > > weeks ago I have just received 6 more bottles. Should I start > > immediately on 6 per day or more. > > > > IP6 I have been taking for about 4 weeks now 6 per day. > > LDN have been taking 1 4.5gm per day 30 days. > > I also have some CELLECT multivitamin just started taking 4 scoops per > > day today. only have 3 tubs and can't afford any more. > > > > I had colon cancer. resection in august 07 and then 6 mths chemo. > > > > mets in liver discovered july 2008 inoperable. > > > > have been on budwig protocol for 10 weeks. > > plus doing coffee enemas 2 per day. was going to do liver cleanse but > > haven't' worked out how to fit in with budwig. > > > > mets now in lungs and lymph glands and multiple in liver. > > > > Liver function is good kidney also good. just very tired and a bit > > nauseas. > > > > My family wants me to start chemo immediately. I'm 53 with a 12 year > > old son. never been so scared in my life. any advice appreciated > > > > Regards > > Kim > > Melbourne > > Australia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 Kim - Your post reminded me that I have been remiss in listing suggested doseage amounts - something I intended to do long ago and then somehow let it slip my mind. I will get that together for you in the next day or two. In most instances you simply take the recommended amount of the supplement. With OPC, inositol and colloidal silver you adjust normal doseage upwards the more serious the cancer is or to get maximum results. Nausea should abide within a few days to a couple of weeks, perhaps depending upon how quickly you upped your doseage. Normally you start with a small dose and do not increase until acclimated. Many people experience no side effects at all, but others do and normally that passes fairly quickly. In regards to colloidal silver, I am not familiar with what is available in Australia. The ones I know that are good are Utopia Silver, Mesosilver and a separate silver product called Covalent Silver. As I recall, Dr. Lanphier also recommends another product but the name slips my memory (hmm, two memory slips in one message - not a good sign!). Yes, particle size is critical. The smaller the better. PPM is much less important. Anything over 20 PPM is more than needed plus the silver tends to clump together and form large particles which precipitate out. oleander soup , "kim290155" <kim.watson wrote:>> I am now taking 2 2 2 of both OPC and IP6 My diet is based on the> budwig protocol, just having trouble at the moment with nausea. does> anybody know how long it should take me to adjust to the OPC.> > I'm also trying to put the rest of the protocol (that tony suggested)> together but am struglling to find dosage info. Maybe it is just the> state i am in at the moment being mostly bedridden so if somebody> could point me in the right direction would be appreciate.> > I looked at colloidal silver in Australia , as per normal, everybody> saying that their stuff/system is the only on that works. IS the> molecule size crucial? how do you know if the one you buy is any good?> > Kim> > > > > > oleander soup , "Bob Banever" bbanever@ wrote:> >> > Kim,> > > > How many OPC were you taking? You don't say. 4 - 6 a day> would be ok > > but take two, two, two or two and two, not all of them at once. > IPp6 can be > > doubled with no problems. If I were you I'd take 600 mg of R Lipoic> Acid > > (better than Alpha Lipoic Acid) and a good dose of silymarin for the> liver. > > Look into colloidal silver too... perhaps experimenting with a half> to one > > cup throughout the day. Utopia Silver makes an excellent product> or you > > can make your own with nothing but distilled water and .999 fine> silver. > > Watch your diet... no sugar, alcohol, coffee, red meat and lots of> organic > > veggies raw and cooked. Good luck.> > > > Bob> > - > > "kim290155" kim.watson@> > oleander soup > > Thursday, December 04, 2008 4:44 PM> > OPC and IP6> > > > > > > Hi> > >> > > I have late stage cancer and after taking one bottle of OPC about 6> > > weeks ago I have just received 6 more bottles. Should I start> > > immediately on 6 per day or more.> > >> > > IP6 I have been taking for about 4 weeks now 6 per day.> > > LDN have been taking 1 4.5gm per day 30 days.> > > I also have some CELLECT multivitamin just started taking 4 scoops per> > > day today. only have 3 tubs and can't afford any more.> > >> > > I had colon cancer. resection in august 07 and then 6 mths chemo.> > >> > > mets in liver discovered july 2008 inoperable.> > >> > > have been on budwig protocol for 10 weeks.> > > plus doing coffee enemas 2 per day. was going to do liver cleanse but> > > haven't' worked out how to fit in with budwig.> > >> > > mets now in lungs and lymph glands and multiple in liver.> > >> > > Liver function is good kidney also good. just very tired and a bit> > > nauseas.> > >> > > My family wants me to start chemo immediately. I'm 53 with a 12 year> > > old son. never been so scared in my life. any advice appreciated> > >> > > Regards> > > Kim> > > Melbourne> > > Australia> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ---> > >> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 On 12/7/2008, kim290155 (kim.watson) wrote: > I looked at colloidal silver in Australia , as per normal, everybody > saying that their stuff/system is the only on that works. IS the > molecule size crucial? how do you know if the one you buy is any good? Buy a decent generator and just make your own. Just be sure to do it right - meaning, use ONLY pure (distilled or deionized is preferable, but at least use highly filtered) water, and do not add anything to it (*especially* any salt or anything to 'increase the conductivity'). If anyone tells you you need to do anything else, ignore them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 On 12/7/2008, Tony () wrote: > Yes, particle size is critical. The smaller the better. Actually, I've read in more than one source that assorted sizes is best, since different sizes will attack different sized bugs... meaning, the smallest particles won't be able to attack the bigger bugs, and vice-versa... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 If you look around you can read all kinds of things from all kinds of sources. People who say particle sizes do not matter, a distinct minority among credible sources, say that because they are unable to manufacture the smaller particle sizes. I may not know a lot about many things, but I know more than a little bit about oleander, cancer and colloidal silver.The smaller the particles the better. Period. And just FYI, Utopia Silver particles range in size from 0.64 nanometers to as large as 8 nanometers, with an average size of 2 nanometers. oleander soup , Simon <tanstaafl wrote:>> On 12/7/2008, Tony () wrote:> > Yes, particle size is critical. The smaller the better.> > Actually, I've read in more than one source that assorted sizes is best,> since different sizes will attack different sized bugs... meaning, the> smallest particles won't be able to attack the bigger bugs, and> vice-versa...> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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