Guest guest Posted November 27, 2008 Report Share Posted November 27, 2008 Hello, I am new to the group. I want to order the Oleander supplement for my mother who has a tumor on her scalp. Should she take the liquid or the capsules? Also, how much should she take? Thanks, Erika Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2008 Report Share Posted November 29, 2008 The capsules and liquid are identical in contents. The capsules are cheaper due to the lower weight and thus lower shipping and handling costs. The dosage will depend on the stage of the cancer and will vary form 2 - 6 capsules per day. Marc Swanepoel - Erika Lewis oleander soup Thursday, November 27, 2008 8:09 PM Oleander Liquid or Capsules? Hello, I am new to the group. I want to order the Oleander supplement for my mother who has a tumor on her scalp. Should she take the liquid or the capsules? Also, how much should she take? Thanks, Erika Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2008 Report Share Posted November 29, 2008 Marc,I was on Anvirzel and it did not worked. What is the main difference between Anvzirzel and Oleander liquid/capsules? Are you aware of anyone that has not benefited from Anvirzel and benefited from Oleander/liquid/capsules?Thanks,MaritzaMarc Swanepoel - PhD <marcswanoleander soup Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 1:59:17 AMRe: Oleander Liquid or Capsules? The capsules and liquid are identical in contents. The capsules are cheaper due to the lower weight and thus lower shipping and handling costs. The dosage will depend on the stage of the cancer and will vary form 2 - 6 capsules per day. Marc Swanepoel - Erika Lewis oleander soup Thursday, November 27, 2008 8:09 PM Oleander Liquid or Capsules? Hello, I am new to the group. I want to order the Oleander supplement for my mother who has a tumor on her scalp. Should she take the liquid or the capsules? Also, how much should she take? Thanks, Erika Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2008 Report Share Posted November 30, 2008 Hi Erika, Tony would be the best person to answer, but in his absence I will tell you that it doesn't matter... the capsules contain the same ingredients as the liquid (oleander and sutherlandia). I would also consider taking IP6 and colloidal silver along with the oleander if at all possible. Bob - Erika Lewis oleander soup Thursday, November 27, 2008 10:09 AM Oleander Liquid or Capsules? Hello, I am new to the group. I want to order the Oleander supplement for my mother who has a tumor on her scalp. Should she take the liquid or the capsules? Also, how much should she take? Thanks, Erika Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2008 Report Share Posted November 30, 2008 Dear Maritza, The Anvirzel is a water extract of oleander. The Sutherlandia OPC consists of a mixture of 80% water extract of oleander and 20% water extract of Sutherlandia Frutescens (cancer bush). The S/OPC capsules is identical in content to the liquid. Cancer is a symptom of an underlying problem in the body caused mostly by lifestyle situations (diet, stress, etc). No treatment will work unless you address the underlying problem(s) that cause the cancer in the first place. People who change to S/OPC from Anvirzel probably do it because of the cost implications. There should not be much of a difference between the two PROVIDED one also does the OTHER things suggested below at the same time. I effectiveness of the S/OPC (and Anvirzel) can be greatly improved by following the protocol below. (1) Cut out ALL animal proteins (meat, milk, eggs, yoghurt, fish) as well as sugar. (2) Get rid of stressful situations in your life and put past traumas behind you otherwise they will surely kill you. (3) Go to bed by 10:30 pm (4) Drink enough water (6 - 8 glasses per day). (5) Eat only starches, vegetables (excluding potatoes) and fruit. Carrot juice is a good example. (6) Get at least half an hour of direct sun per day. (7) Do a liver cleanse every 4 weeks until you don't pass any gallstones. (8) Take the Sutherlandia OPC regularly. (9) Take Inositol/IP6 as suggested in Tony Isaac's Anti-cancer protocol (/anticancer.htm) (10) Add curcumin as a supplement (as per the work of Dr H Kremer). (11) For advanced cases take an anti-fungal prescription medicine like Nystatin or Diflucan for 2 weeks. Take an anti-fungal supplement like olive leaf extract on a daily basis. Marc Swanepoel - Maritza Vlasaty oleander soup Sunday, November 30, 2008 12:01 AM Re: Oleander Liquid or Capsules? Marc,I was on Anvirzel and it did not worked. What is the main difference between Anvzirzel and Oleander liquid/capsules? Are you aware of anyone that has not benefited from Anvirzel and benefited from Oleander/liquid/capsules?Thanks,Maritza Marc Swanepoel - PhD <marcswan (AT) global (DOT) co.za>oleander soup Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 1:59:17 AMRe: Oleander Liquid or Capsules? The capsules and liquid are identical in contents. The capsules are cheaper due to the lower weight and thus lower shipping and handling costs. The dosage will depend on the stage of the cancer and will vary form 2 - 6 capsules per day. Marc Swanepoel - Erika Lewis oleander soup Thursday, November 27, 2008 8:09 PM Oleander Liquid or Capsules? Hello, I am new to the group. I want to order the Oleander supplement for my mother who has a tumor on her scalp. Should she take the liquid or the capsules? Also, how much should she take? Thanks, Erika Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2008 Report Share Posted November 30, 2008 THANKS Marc!!!Marc Swanepoel - PhD <marcswanoleander soup Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 5:02:21 AMRe: Oleander Liquid or Capsules? Dear Maritza, The Anvirzel is a water extract of oleander. The Sutherlandia OPC consists of a mixture of 80% water extract of oleander and 20% water extract of Sutherlandia Frutescens (cancer bush). The S/OPC capsules is identical in content to the liquid. Cancer is a symptom of an underlying problem in the body caused mostly by lifestyle situations (diet, stress, etc). No treatment will work unless you address the underlying problem(s) that cause the cancer in the first place. People who change to S/OPC from Anvirzel probably do it because of the cost implications. There should not be much of a difference between the two PROVIDED one also does the OTHER things suggested below at the same time. I effectiveness of the S/OPC (and Anvirzel) can be greatly improved by following the protocol below. (1) Cut out ALL animal proteins (meat, milk, eggs, yoghurt, fish) as well as sugar. (2) Get rid of stressful situations in your life and put past traumas behind you otherwise they will surely kill you. (3) Go to bed by 10:30 pm (4) Drink enough water (6 - 8 glasses per day). (5) Eat only starches, vegetables (excluding potatoes) and fruit. Carrot juice is a good example. (6) Get at least half an hour of direct sun per day. (7) Do a liver cleanse every 4 weeks until you don't pass any gallstones. (8) Take the Sutherlandia OPC regularly. (9) Take Inositol/IP6 as suggested in Tony Isaac's Anti-cancer protocol (http://www.tbyil. com/anticancer. htm) (10) Add curcumin as a supplement (as per the work of Dr H Kremer). (11) For advanced cases take an anti-fungal prescription medicine like Nystatin or Diflucan for 2 weeks. Take an anti-fungal supplement like olive leaf extract on a daily basis. Marc Swanepoel - Maritza Vlasaty oleander soup Sunday, November 30, 2008 12:01 AM Re: Oleander Liquid or Capsules? Marc,I was on Anvirzel and it did not worked. What is the main difference between Anvzirzel and Oleander liquid/capsules? Are you aware of anyone that has not benefited from Anvirzel and benefited from Oleander/liquid/ capsules?Thanks,Maritza Marc Swanepoel - PhD <marcswan (AT) global (DOT) co.za>oleander soupSaturday, November 29, 2008 1:59:17 AMRe: Oleander Liquid or Capsules? The capsules and liquid are identical in contents. The capsules are cheaper due to the lower weight and thus lower shipping and handling costs. The dosage will depend on the stage of the cancer and will vary form 2 - 6 capsules per day. Marc Swanepoel - Erika Lewis oleander soup Thursday, November 27, 2008 8:09 PM Oleander Liquid or Capsules? Hello, I am new to the group. I want to order the Oleander supplement for my mother who has a tumor on her scalp. Should she take the liquid or the capsules? Also, how much should she take? Thanks, Erika Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2008 Report Share Posted December 1, 2008 Hi Erika, welcome to the group - You might also want to consider making your own oleander extract (known as "oleander soup") according to these directions: The Recipe for Oleander Soup Part 1 The Recipe for Oleander Soup Part 2 - Tips and Advice And then condense a good portion of it down to make the skin creme by mixing with ozonated olive oil or some other medium and adding a few drops of MSM and apply the creme directly to the scalp tumor at least twice a day. An even more potent tumor destroyer for tumors on the surface is the black salve. Be careful to follow directions exactly so you do not end up with too big of a hole where the tumor site is and use Dr. Christopher's bone, skin and tissue ointment for healing. The very best source of black salve I know of is the original Alpha Omega Labs (they also have a promising oleander based product which contains oleander, graviola and chaparral - though my favorite remains the Sutherlandia OPC, which I take myself. The OPC costs about half as much and has a great track record): http://www.altcancer.com/ oleander soup , Erika Lewis <cuisineclassy wrote:>> Hello,> > I am new to the group. I want to order the Oleander supplement for my mother who has a tumor on her scalp. Should she take the liquid or the capsules? Also, how much should she take?> > Thanks,> > Erika> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2008 Report Share Posted December 1, 2008 Mark, I'm new to the group. I'm assuming Tony's website is a good place to start for a baseline of information? (so I don't ask a bunch of redundant questions!)? Are you familiar with Dr. Lindsay Duncan? He has a liquid cleanse product that we use called "Liquid Cleanse Pure". He states that it helps to stimulate and detoxify every organ, cell and tissue in the body, with special emphasis on all 7 channels of elimination (colon, liver, kidneys, lungs, lymphatic system, skin and blood stream). Are you familiar with this? Can you offer an opinion? If you need a link, let me know. Thanks, Kate oleander soup , "Marc Swanepoel - PhD" <marcswan wrote:>> Dear Maritza,> > The Anvirzel is a water extract of oleander. The Sutherlandia OPC consists of a mixture of 80% water extract of oleander and 20% water extract of Sutherlandia Frutescens (cancer bush). The S/OPC capsules is identical in content to the liquid.> > Cancer is a symptom of an underlying problem in the body caused mostly by lifestyle situations (diet, stress, etc). No treatment will work unless you address the underlying problem(s) that cause the cancer in the first place. People who change to S/OPC from Anvirzel probably do it because of the cost implications. There should not be much of a difference between the two PROVIDED one also does the OTHER things suggested below at the same time.> > I effectiveness of the S/OPC (and Anvirzel) can be greatly improved by following the protocol below.> (1) Cut out ALL animal proteins (meat, milk, eggs, yoghurt, fish) as well as sugar.> > (2) Get rid of stressful situations in your life and put past traumas behind you otherwise they will surely kill you.> > (3) Go to bed by 10:30 pm> > (4) Drink enough water (6 - 8 glasses per day).> > (5) Eat only starches, vegetables (excluding potatoes) and fruit. Carrot juice is a good example.> > (6) Get at least half an hour of direct sun per day.> > (7) Do a liver cleanse every 4 weeks until you don't pass any gallstones.> > (8) Take the Sutherlandia OPC regularly.> > (9) Take Inositol/IP6 as suggested in Tony Isaac's Anti-cancer protocol (/anticancer.htm)> > (10) Add curcumin as a supplement (as per the work of Dr H Kremer).> > (11) For advanced cases take an anti-fungal prescription medicine like Nystatin or Diflucan for 2 weeks. Take an anti-fungal supplement like olive leaf extract on a daily basis. > > > Marc Swanepoel> > - > Maritza Vlasaty > oleander soup > Sunday, November 30, 2008 12:01 AM> Re: Oleander Liquid or Capsules?> > > > Marc,> I was on Anvirzel and it did not worked. What is the main difference between Anvzirzel and Oleander liquid/capsules? Are you aware of anyone that has not benefited from Anvirzel and benefited from Oleander/liquid/capsules?> > Thanks,> Maritza> > > > > > > Marc Swanepoel - PhD marcswan oleander soup > Saturday, November 29, 2008 1:59:17 AM> Re: Oleander Liquid or Capsules?> > > > The capsules and liquid are identical in contents. The capsules are cheaper due to the lower weight and thus lower shipping and handling costs. The dosage will depend on the stage of the cancer and will vary form 2 - 6 capsules per day.> Marc Swanepoel> > - > Erika Lewis > oleander soup > Thursday, November 27, 2008 8:09 PM> Oleander Liquid or Capsules?> > > > Hello,> > I am new to the group. I want to order the Oleander supplement for my mother who has a tumor on her scalp. Should she take the liquid or the capsules? Also, how much should she take?> > Thanks,> > Erika> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2008 Report Share Posted December 1, 2008 Kate, I'm not familiar with that specific product of Dr Lindsay Duncan unless it is similar to or identical to his previous "Ultimate Cleanse" which was later renamed "Dual Action Cleanse". A discussion of that product can be found at http://www.retailing.org/node/192 as a result of "..anonymous competitor and consumer challenges". The main ingredient of that mixture of 29 herbs and various fibers, is Cascara Sagrada. I will be surprised if there is ONE mixture that can detoxify every organ in the body. For example, the process for getting rid of the gallstones that may be blocking the bile ducts of the liver is completely different from getting rid of a fungal infection in the bladder. Marc Swanepoel - katherinesaund oleander soup Monday, December 01, 2008 3:17 PM Re: Oleander Liquid or Capsules? Mark, I'm new to the group. I'm assuming Tony's website is a good place to start for a baseline of information? (so I don't ask a bunch of redundant questions!)? Are you familiar with Dr. Lindsay Duncan? He has a liquid cleanse product that we use called "Liquid Cleanse Pure". He states that it helps to stimulate and detoxify every organ, cell and tissue in the body, with special emphasis on all 7 channels of elimination (colon, liver, kidneys, lungs, lymphatic system, skin and blood stream). Are you familiar with this? Can you offer an opinion? If you need a link, let me know. Thanks, Kate oleander soup , "Marc Swanepoel - PhD" <marcswan wrote:>> Dear Maritza,> > The Anvirzel is a water extract of oleander. The Sutherlandia OPC consists of a mixture of 80% water extract of oleander and 20% water extract of Sutherlandia Frutescens (cancer bush). The S/OPC capsules is identical in content to the liquid.> > Cancer is a symptom of an underlying problem in the body caused mostly by lifestyle situations (diet, stress, etc). No treatment will work unless you address the underlying problem(s) that cause the cancer in the first place. People who change to S/OPC from Anvirzel probably do it because of the cost implications. There should not be much of a difference between the two PROVIDED one also does the OTHER things suggested below at the same time.> > I effectiveness of the S/OPC (and Anvirzel) can be greatly improved by following the protocol below.> (1) C ut out ALL animal proteins (meat, milk, eggs, yoghurt, fish) as well as sugar.> > (2) Get rid of stressful situations in your life and put past traumas behind you otherwise they will surely kill you.> > (3) Go to bed by 10:30 pm> > (4) Drink enough water (6 - 8 glasses per day).> > (5) Eat only starches, vegetables (excluding potatoes) and fruit. Carrot juice is a good example.> > (6) Get at least half an hour of direct sun per day.> > (7) Do a liver cleanse every 4 weeks until you don't pass any gallstones.> > (8) Take the Sutherlandia OPC regularly.> > (9) Take Inositol/IP6 as suggested in Tony Isaac's Anti-cancer protocol (/anticancer.htm)> > (10) Add curcumin as a supplement (as per the work of Dr H Kremer).> > (11) For advanced cases take an anti-fungal prescription medicine like Nystatin or Difluc an for 2 weeks. Take an anti-fungal supplement like olive leaf extract on a daily basis. > > > Marc Swanepoel> > - > Maritza Vlasaty > oleander soup > Sunday, November 30, 2008 12:01 AM> Re: Oleander Liquid or Capsules?> > > > Marc,> I was on Anvirzel and it did not worked. What is the main difference between Anvzirzel and Oleander liquid/capsules? Are you aware of anyone that has not benefited from Anvirzel and benefited from Oleander/liquid/capsules?> > Thanks,> Maritza> > > > > > > Marc Swanepoel - PhD marcswan oleander soup > Saturday, N ovember 29, 2008 1:59:17 AM> Re: Oleander Liquid or Capsules?> > > > The capsules and liquid are identical in contents. The capsules are cheaper due to the lower weight and thus lower shipping and handling costs. The dosage will depend on the stage of the cancer and will vary form 2 - 6 capsules per day.> Marc Swanepoel> > - > Erika Lewis > oleander soup > Thursday, November 27, 2008 8:09 PM> Oleander Liquid or Capsules?> > > > Hello,> > I am new to the group. I want to order the Oleander supplement for my mother who has a tumor on her scalp. Should she take the liquid or the capsules? Also, how much should she take?> > Thanks,> > Erika> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 Marc, Txs for your reply. You mean the old addage " if it seems too good to be true... " ? I love that it's a liquid and easy to take. I'll list the ingredients below, and if you or Tony can let me know what you think, I would appreciate it. If there's just not enough information here for you to assess, I understand. Here are the ingredients: Cascara Sagrada Bark, Milk Thistle Seed, Cilantro herb, Dandelion leaf and Root, Green Tea Leaf, Fresh Black Walnut Hull, Yellow Dock Root, Burdock Root, Turmeric Root, Licorice root, Uva Ursi Leaf, Gentian Root, Fresh Ginger Root, Slippery Elm Bark, Red Clover herb, Artichoke Leaf, Garlic Bulb, Astragalus Root, Wasabi Root, Oregano Oil, Clove Bud and Cayenne Fruit. Txs again, Kate oleander soup , " Marc Swanepoel - PhD " <marcswan wrote: > > Kate, > I'm not familiar with that specific product of Dr Lindsay Duncan unless it is similar to or identical to his previous " Ultimate Cleanse " which was later renamed " Dual Action Cleanse " . A discussion of that product can be found at http://www.retailing.org/node/192 as a result of " ..anonymous competitor and consumer challenges " . The main ingredient of that mixture of 29 herbs and various fibers, is Cascara Sagrada. > > I will be surprised if there is ONE mixture that can detoxify every organ in the body. For example, the process for getting rid of the gallstones that may be blocking the bile ducts of the liver is completely different from getting rid of a fungal infection in the bladder. > > Marc Swanepoel > > - > katherinesaund > oleander soup > Monday, December 01, 2008 3:17 PM > Re: Oleander Liquid or Capsules? > > > > Mark, > > I'm new to the group. I'm assuming Tony's website is a good place to start for a baseline of information? (so I don't ask a bunch of redundant questions!)? > > Are you familiar with Dr. Lindsay Duncan? He has a liquid cleanse product that we use called " Liquid Cleanse Pure " . He states that it helps to stimulate and detoxify every organ, cell and tissue in the body, with special emphasis on all 7 channels of elimination (colon, liver, kidneys, lungs, lymphatic system, skin and blood stream). Are you familiar with this? Can you offer an opinion? If you need a link, let me know. > > Thanks, > > Kate > > > oleander soup , " Marc Swanepoel - PhD " <marcswan@> wrote: > > > > Dear Maritza, > > > > The Anvirzel is a water extract of oleander. The Sutherlandia OPC consists of a mixture of 80% water extract of oleander and 20% water extract of Sutherlandia Frutescens (cancer bush). The S/OPC capsules is identical in content to the liquid. > > > > Cancer is a symptom of an underlying problem in the body caused mostly by lifestyle situations (diet, stress, etc). No treatment will work unless you address the underlying problem(s) that cause the cancer in the first place. People who change to S/OPC from Anvirzel probably do it because of the cost implications. There should not be much of a difference between the two PROVIDED one also does the OTHER things suggested below at the same time. > > > > I effectiveness of the S/OPC (and Anvirzel) can be greatly improved by following the protocol below. > > (1) C ut out ALL animal proteins (meat, milk, eggs, yoghurt, fish) as well as sugar. > > > > (2) Get rid of stressful situations in your life and put past traumas behind you otherwise they will surely kill you. > > > > (3) Go to bed by 10:30 pm > > > > (4) Drink enough water (6 - 8 glasses per day). > > > > (5) Eat only starches, vegetables (excluding potatoes) and fruit. Carrot juice is a good example. > > > > (6) Get at least half an hour of direct sun per day. > > > > (7) Do a liver cleanse every 4 weeks until you don't pass any gallstones. > > > > (8) Take the Sutherlandia OPC regularly. > > > > (9) Take Inositol/IP6 as suggested in Tony Isaac's Anti-cancer protocol (/anticancer.htm) > > > > (10) Add curcumin as a supplement (as per the work of Dr H Kremer). > > > > (11) For advanced cases take an anti-fungal prescription medicine like Nystatin or Difluc an for 2 weeks. Take an anti-fungal supplement like olive leaf extract on a daily basis. > > > > > > Marc Swanepoel > > > > - > > Maritza Vlasaty > > oleander soup > > Sunday, November 30, 2008 12:01 AM > > Re: Oleander Liquid or Capsules? > > > > > > > > Marc, > > I was on Anvirzel and it did not worked. What is the main difference between Anvzirzel and Oleander liquid/capsules? Are you aware of anyone that has not benefited from Anvirzel and benefited from Oleander/liquid/capsules? > > > > Thanks, > > Maritza > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- -------------- > > Marc Swanepoel - PhD marcswan@ > > oleander soup > > Saturday, N ovember 29, 2008 1:59:17 AM > > Re: Oleander Liquid or Capsules? > > > > > > > > The capsules and liquid are identical in contents. The capsules are cheaper due to the lower weight and thus lower shipping and handling costs. The dosage will depend on the stage of the cancer and will vary form 2 - 6 capsules per day. > > Marc Swanepoel > > > > - > > Erika Lewis > > oleander soup > > Thursday, November 27, 2008 8:09 PM > > Oleander Liquid or Capsules? > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > I am new to the group. I want to order the Oleander supplement for my mother who has a tumor on her scalp. Should she take the liquid or the capsules? Also, how much should she take? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Erika > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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