Guest guest Posted November 13, 2008 Report Share Posted November 13, 2008 The Calcium ascorbate form - which is the form of most pharmacy-bought vitamin C - apparently doesn't work well. It is not highly regarded by the vitamin C foundation. One explanation is that one of vitamin C's jobs is to chelate excess calcium - so as soon as the calcium ascorbate splits into calcium and ascorbic acid in the body then they react again. Having said that, I have got rid of flu overnight by throwing calcium ascorbate down my throat at a rate of 3 grams every 2-3 hours (averaging more than 1 gram an hour). But I believe it was Cathcart, an early vitamin C exponent, who argued that calcium ascorbate was not effective and that sodium ascorbate was the best. I have also seen good reports for mixes of magnesium, potassium and zinc ascorbates.In fact cancer patients should make sure they are getting good doses of magnesium (in the form of epsom salts perhaps) and potassium and zinc. This is the basis (along with manganese) of Percy Weston's cancer (arthritis and heart disease) cure. Personally I would take in large doses of ocean minerals.As for dogs - your dog may indeed benefit from extra vitamin C but it is already making its own in large-ish quantities..JonathanJonathan Chamberlain www.fightingcancer.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2008 Report Share Posted November 13, 2008 I've also read that Calcium ascorbate could contribute to blocking an already constricted artery. Best is said to be sodium ascorbate, followed by ascorbic acid. I did a series of sodium ascorbate iv drips at home a couple years ago, for about a year. I did 65-75,000 mgs each day, 5 days a week, in an effort to deal with hcv. It didn't finish the job, but it didn't hurt, either. Kidneys seem okay; no problems that I notice. Toward the end, I noticed dark circles under my eyes, a sign of toixicity; My guess is that the c done this way is a synthetic, and still has to be broken down by the (impaired) liver. A double edged sword. C, done this way is good -short term- a year of it -tips the balance. Also developed insomnia, which has subsided with the latest efforts. --- On Thu, 11/13/08, jonathan chamberlain <jonomark33 wrote: jonathan chamberlain <jonomark33Re: Re: Vitamin C - calcium ascorbateoleander soup Date: Thursday, November 13, 2008, 5:24 AM The Calcium ascorbate form - which is the form of most pharmacy-bought vitamin C - apparently doesn't work well. It is not highly regarded by the vitamin C foundation. One explanation is that one of vitamin C's jobs is to chelate excess calcium - so as soon as the calcium ascorbate splits into calcium and ascorbic acid in the body then they react again. Having said that, I have got rid of flu overnight by throwing calcium ascorbate down my throat at a rate of 3 grams every 2-3 hours (averaging more than 1 gram an hour). But I believe it was Cathcart, an early vitamin C exponent, who argued that calcium ascorbate was not effective and that sodium ascorbate was the best. I have also seen good reports for mixes of magnesium, potassium and zinc ascorbates.In fact cancer patients should make sure they are getting good doses of magnesium (in the form of epsom salts perhaps) and potassium and zinc. This is the basis (along with manganese) of Percy Weston's cancer (arthritis and heart disease) cure. Personally I would take in large doses of ocean minerals.As for dogs - your dog may indeed benefit from extra vitamin C but it is already making its own in large-ish quantities..Jonathan Jonathan Chamberlain www.fightingcancer. com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2008 Report Share Posted November 13, 2008 Arthur, I also have hcv and have insomnia, (get up to pee 1 or 2 times per night), What did you do to sleep better? Coxie --- On Thu, 11/13/08, arthur rambo <alquitit wrote: arthur rambo <alquititRe: Re: Vitamin C - calcium ascorbateoleander soup Date: Thursday, November 13, 2008, 7:46 AM I've also read that Calcium ascorbate could contribute to blocking an already constricted artery. Best is said to be sodium ascorbate, followed by ascorbic acid. I did a series of sodium ascorbate iv drips at home a couple years ago, for about a year. I did 65-75,000 mgs each day, 5 days a week, in an effort to deal with hcv. It didn't finish the job, but it didn't hurt, either. Kidneys seem okay; no problems that I notice. Toward the end, I noticed dark circles under my eyes, a sign of toixicity; My guess is that the c done this way is a synthetic, and still has to be broken down by the (impaired) liver. A double edged sword. C, done this way is good -short term- a year of it -tips the balance. Also developed insomnia, which has subsided with the latest efforts. --- On Thu, 11/13/08, jonathan chamberlain <jonomark33 > wrote: jonathan chamberlain <jonomark33 >Re: Re: Vitamin C - calcium ascorbateoleander soupThursday, November 13, 2008, 5:24 AM The Calcium ascorbate form - which is the form of most pharmacy-bought vitamin C - apparently doesn't work well. It is not highly regarded by the vitamin C foundation. One explanation is that one of vitamin C's jobs is to chelate excess calcium - so as soon as the calcium ascorbate splits into calcium and ascorbic acid in the body then they react again. Having said that, I have got rid of flu overnight by throwing calcium ascorbate down my throat at a rate of 3 grams every 2-3 hours (averaging more than 1 gram an hour). But I believe it was Cathcart, an early vitamin C exponent, who argued that calcium ascorbate was not effective and that sodium ascorbate was the best. I have also seen good reports for mixes of magnesium, potassium and zinc ascorbates.In fact cancer patients should make sure they are getting good doses of magnesium (in the form of epsom salts perhaps) and potassium and zinc. This is the basis (along with manganese) of Percy Weston's cancer (arthritis and heart disease) cure. Personally I would take in large doses of ocean minerals.As for dogs - your dog may indeed benefit from extra vitamin C but it is already making its own in large-ish quantities..Jonathan Jonathan Chamberlain www.fightingcancer. com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2008 Report Share Posted November 13, 2008 Since I began the transdermal mms, I sleep well. If I drink almost nothing after 5-6 pm, I don't have to get up. If I eat late, or eat too much of low quality food, my liver will wake me up between 1-3 am. My latest protocol is 1/4 teaspoon mms (25-30 drops) in 1/2 teas. lemon juice, wait 3 minutes, add 1/2 teaspoon dmso, wait three minutes; coat the liver area, and arms or legs. This is keeping my symptoms at zero. I have been blessed with acute symptoms, so I know when something is working or not. 2-3 hours after the mms, I begin my anti-oxs c,e,aplha lipoic, milk thistle, 1000 mCg selenium (200 per dose) Oleander, iodine (Atomidine from caycecures.) Side note: the 2 suspicious spots on my face, plus other minor "liver spots" continue to fade. For what its worth, these first two areas coincide with liver congestion and/or cancer. I --- On Thu, 11/13/08, Steve Cox <cox_agent wrote: Steve Cox <cox_agentRe: Re: Vitamin C - calcium ascorbateoleander soup Date: Thursday, November 13, 2008, 8:13 AM Arthur, I also have hcv and have insomnia, (get up to pee 1 or 2 times per night), What did you do to sleep better? Coxie --- On Thu, 11/13/08, arthur rambo <alquitit > wrote: arthur rambo <alquitit >Re: Re: Vitamin C - calcium ascorbateoleander soupThursday, November 13, 2008, 7:46 AM I've also read that Calcium ascorbate could contribute to blocking an already constricted artery. Best is said to be sodium ascorbate, followed by ascorbic acid. I did a series of sodium ascorbate iv drips at home a couple years ago, for about a year. I did 65-75,000 mgs each day, 5 days a week, in an effort to deal with hcv. It didn't finish the job, but it didn't hurt, either. Kidneys seem okay; no problems that I notice. Toward the end, I noticed dark circles under my eyes, a sign of toixicity; My guess is that the c done this way is a synthetic, and still has to be broken down by the (impaired) liver. A double edged sword. C, done this way is good -short term- a year of it -tips the balance. Also developed insomnia, which has subsided with the latest efforts. --- On Thu, 11/13/08, jonathan chamberlain <jonomark33 > wrote: jonathan chamberlain <jonomark33 >Re: Re: Vitamin C - calcium ascorbateoleander soupThursday, November 13, 2008, 5:24 AM The Calcium ascorbate form - which is the form of most pharmacy-bought vitamin C - apparently doesn't work well. It is not highly regarded by the vitamin C foundation. One explanation is that one of vitamin C's jobs is to chelate excess calcium - so as soon as the calcium ascorbate splits into calcium and ascorbic acid in the body then they react again. Having said that, I have got rid of flu overnight by throwing calcium ascorbate down my throat at a rate of 3 grams every 2-3 hours (averaging more than 1 gram an hour). But I believe it was Cathcart, an early vitamin C exponent, who argued that calcium ascorbate was not effective and that sodium ascorbate was the best. I have also seen good reports for mixes of magnesium, potassium and zinc ascorbates.In fact cancer patients should make sure they are getting good doses of magnesium (in the form of epsom salts perhaps) and potassium and zinc. This is the basis (along with manganese) of Percy Weston's cancer (arthritis and heart disease) cure. Personally I would take in large doses of ocean minerals.As for dogs - your dog may indeed benefit from extra vitamin C but it is already making its own in large-ish quantities..Jonathan Jonathan Chamberlain www.fightingcancer. com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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