Guest guest Posted November 11, 2008 Report Share Posted November 11, 2008 I have stage 4 Prostate Cancer and I am under the care of a doctor with Hormonal Therapy. I get my PSA checked every 3 months. The last 6 months my PSA has started to rise which indicates that I am becoming refactory to the treatment. I've been taking Southerlandia OPC since the first part of September and I'm currently up to 4 capsules a day. My next PSA test will be in December so when I have the test I will be on OPC for close to 3 months. How long should should it be before I see results from the OPC? Thanks in advance. Carl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2008 Report Share Posted November 11, 2008 Hi Carl,Oleander, as does Sutherlandia OPC works on an individual basis. The general time table is three months or longer. You are not up to the three month mark yet.Are you also following Tony's complete protocol? Inositol/IP6 and colloidal silver, among the other items in Tony's protocol, together with a good diet, sunshine, and moderate exercise are also very important.Here is the link the entire protocol.A Natural Anti-Cancer ProtocolWarm regards,oleander soup , "Carl Fritch" <carlfritch wrote:>> I have stage 4 Prostate Cancer and I am under the care of a doctor> with Hormonal Therapy. I get my PSA checked every 3 months. The last> 6 months my PSA has started to rise which indicates that I am becoming> refactory to the treatment.> > > I've been taking Southerlandia OPC since the first part of September> and I'm currently up to 4 capsules a day. My next PSA test will be in> December so when I have the test I will be on OPC for close to 3> months.> > How long should should it be before I see results from the OPC?> > Thanks in advance.> Carl> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2008 Report Share Posted November 11, 2008 Oleander can begin to work in as little as a couple of weeks to a month, but normally it takes two or three months for most people and it can take quite a bit longer - it depends on the type of cancer, the stage it is in and rate of progression and the health of the individual. I would bet that if you do not see an improvement with your test results (which you very well may see) that you will at least see a slowing or halt in the rate of progression. Normally what happens is that the oleander goes to work fighting the cancer and boosting your immune system. At first you will notice the rate of progression (tumor size, cancer markers, etc.) slow. Then the growth rate will actually be halted (which means that at worst you have achieved a state of chronic care for a no longer worsening condition). After that the signs/tumor size begin to lessen. And finally they are gone altogether or else the tumor has turned into a small non-benign mass, which means that a maintenance dose and good diet and lifestyle will likely be all you ever need to live a long and cancer free life. And that is exactly my hopes and wishes for you! oleander soup , " Carl Fritch " <carlfritch wrote: > > I have stage 4 Prostate Cancer and I am under the care of a doctor > with Hormonal Therapy. I get my PSA checked every 3 months. The last > 6 months my PSA has started to rise which indicates that I am becoming > refactory to the treatment. > > > I've been taking Southerlandia OPC since the first part of September > and I'm currently up to 4 capsules a day. My next PSA test will be in > December so when I have the test I will be on OPC for close to 3 > months. > > How long should should it be before I see results from the OPC? > > Thanks in advance. > Carl > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2008 Report Share Posted November 12, 2008 Does anyone know if the Budwig Protocol and OPC are compatible? Is anyone hear on BP as well? Hugs, Rose www.orangecountypropertyservices.com714.549-3519 Office/Fax 714.349-1200 Cell Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. ~Dr. Seuss oleander soup From: Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 20:54:26 +0000 Re: Question about OPC Oleander can begin to work in as little as a couple of weeks to amonth, but normally it takes two or three months for most people andit can take quite a bit longer - it depends on the type of cancer, thestage it is in and rate of progression and the health of the individual.I would bet that if you do not see an improvement with your testresults (which you very well may see) that you will at least see aslowing or halt in the rate of progression.Normally what happens is that the oleander goes to work fighting thecancer and boosting your immune system. At first you will notice therate of progression (tumor size, cancer markers, etc.) slow. Then thegrowth rate will actually be halted (which means that at worst youhave achieved a state of chronic care for a no longer worseningcondition). After that the signs/tumor size begin to lessen. Andfinally they are gone altogether or else the tumor has turned into asmall non-benign mass, which means that a maintenance dose and gooddiet and lifestyle will likely be all you ever need to live a long andcancer free life.And that is exactly my hopes and wishes for you!Tonyoleander soup , "Carl Fritch" <carlfritch wrote:>> I have stage 4 Prostate Cancer and I am under the care of a doctor> with Hormonal Therapy. I get my PSA checked every 3 months. The last> 6 months my PSA has started to rise which indicates that I am becoming> refactory to the treatment.> > > I've been taking Southerlandia OPC since the first part of September> and I'm currently up to 4 capsules a day. My next PSA test will be in> December so when I have the test I will be on OPC for close to 3> months.> > How long should should it be before I see results from the OPC?> > Thanks in advance.> Carl> Stay up to date on your PC, the Web, and your mobile phone with Windows Live Click here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2008 Report Share Posted November 12, 2008 Hi Rose, Yes they are. Hugs, oleander soup , Gypsy Rose <gypsy___rose wrote: > > > Does anyone know if the Budwig Protocol and OPC are compatible? Is anyone hear on BP as well? > > Hugs, > Rose www.orangecountypropertyservices.com714.549-3519 Office/Fax 714.349-1200 Cell > Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. ~Dr. Seuss > > oleander soup: : Tue, 11 Nov 2008 20:54:26 +0000 Re: Question about OPC > > > > Oleander can begin to work in as little as a couple of weeks to amonth, but normally it takes two or three months for most people andit can take quite a bit longer - it depends on the type of cancer, thestage it is in and rate of progression and the health of the individual.I would bet that if you do not see an improvement with your testresults (which you very well may see) that you will at least see aslowing or halt in the rate of progression.Normally what happens is that the oleander goes to work fighting thecancer and boosting your immune system. At first you will notice therate of progression (tumor size, cancer markers, etc.) slow. Then thegrowth rate will actually be halted (which means that at worst youhave achieved a state of chronic care for a no longer worseningcondition). After that the signs/tumor size begin to lessen. Andfinally they are gone altogether or else the tumor has turned into asmall non-benign mass, which means that a maintenance dose and gooddiet and lifestyle will likely be all you ever need to live a long andcancer free life.And that is exactly my hopes and wishes for you!Tonyoleander soup , " Carl Fritch " carlfritch@ wrote:>> I have stage 4 Prostate Cancer and I am under the care of a doctor> with Hormonal Therapy. I get my PSA checked every 3 months. The last> 6 months my PSA has started to rise which indicates that I am becoming> refactory to the treatment.> > > I've been taking Southerlandia OPC since the first part of September> and I'm currently up to 4 capsules a day. My next PSA test will be in> December so when I have the test I will be on OPC for close to 3> months.> > How long should should it be before I see results from the OPC?> > Thanks in advance.> Carl_______________ > Stay up to date on your PC, the Web, and your mobile phone with Windows Live > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/119462413/direct/01/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2008 Report Share Posted November 12, 2008 Rose, Yes of course they're compatable. Why wouldn't they be? Bob - Gypsy Rose oleander soup Tuesday, November 11, 2008 7:16 PM RE: Re: Question about OPC Does anyone know if the Budwig Protocol and OPC are compatible? Is anyone hear on BP as well? Hugs, Rose www.orangecountypropertyservices.com714.549-3519 Office/Fax 714.349-1200 Cell Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. ~Dr. Seuss oleander soup From: Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 20:54:26 +0000 Re: Question about OPC Oleander can begin to work in as little as a couple of weeks to amonth, but normally it takes two or three months for most people andit can take quite a bit longer - it depends on the type of cancer, thestage it is in and rate of progression and the health of the individual.I would bet that if you do not see an improvement with your testresults (which you very well may see) that you will at least see aslowing or halt in the rate of progression.Normally what happens is that the oleander goes to work fighting thecancer and boosting your immune system. At first you will notice therate of progression (tumor size, cancer markers, etc.) slow. Then thegrowth rate will actually be halted (which means that at worst youhave achieved a state of chronic care for a no longer worseningcondition). After that the signs/tumor size begin to lessen. Andfinally they are gone altogether or else the tumor has turned into asmall non-benign mass, which means that a maintenance dose and gooddiet and lifestyle will likely be all you ever need to live a long andcancer free life.And that is exactly my hopes and wishes for you!Tonyoleander soup , "Carl Fritch" <carlfritch wrote:>> I have stage 4 Prostate Cancer and I am under the care of a doctor> with Hormonal Therapy. I get my PSA checked every 3 months. The last> 6 months my PSA has started to rise which indicates that I am becoming> refactory to the treatment.> > > I've been taking Southerlandia OPC since the first part of September> and I'm currently up to 4 capsules a day. My next PSA test will be in> December so when I have the test I will be on OPC for close to 3> months.> > How long should should it be before I see results from the OPC?> > Thanks in advance.> Carl> Stay up to date on your PC, the Web, and your mobile phone with Windows Live Click here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2008 Report Share Posted November 12, 2008 I don't know why they wouldn't be. That why I was asking! You just never know what is and isn't. Always better to be safe and ask questions!!! Hugs, Rose www.orangecountypropertyservices.com714.549-3519 Office/Fax 714.349-1200 Cell Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. ~Dr. Seuss oleander soup From: bbaneverDate: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 20:00:40 -0800Re: Re: Question about OPC Rose, Yes of course they're compatable. Why wouldn't they be? Bob - Gypsy Rose oleander soup Tuesday, November 11, 2008 7:16 PM RE: Re: Question about OPC Does anyone know if the Budwig Protocol and OPC are compatible? Is anyone hear on BP as well? Hugs, Rose www.orangecountypropertyservices.com714.549-3519 Office/Fax 714.349-1200 Cell Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. ~Dr. Seuss oleander soup From: Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 20:54:26 +0000 Re: Question about OPC Oleander can begin to work in as little as a couple of weeks to amonth, but normally it takes two or three months for most people andit can take quite a bit longer - it depends on the type of cancer, thestage it is in and rate of progression and the health of the individual.I would bet that if you do not see an improvement with your testresults (which you very well may see) that you will at least see aslowing or halt in the rate of progression.Normally what happens is that the oleander goes to work fighting thecancer and boosting your immune system. At first you will notice therate of progression (tumor size, cancer markers, etc.) slow. Then thegrowth rate will actually be halted (which means that at worst youhave achieved a state of chronic care for a no longer worseningcondition). After that the signs/tumor size begin to lessen. Andfinally they are gone altogether or else the tumor has turned into asmall non-benign mass, which means that a maintenance dose and gooddiet and lifestyle will likely be all you ever need to live a long andcancer free life.And that is exactly my hopes and wishes for you!Tonyoleander soup , "Carl Fritch" <carlfritch wrote:>> I have stage 4 Prostate Cancer and I am under the care of a doctor> with Hormonal Therapy. I get my PSA checked every 3 months. The last> 6 months my PSA has started to rise which indicates that I am becoming> refactory to the treatment.> > > I've been taking Southerlandia OPC since the first part of September> and I'm currently up to 4 capsules a day. My next PSA test will be in> December so when I have the test I will be on OPC for close to 3> months.> > How long should should it be before I see results from the OPC?> > Thanks in advance.> Carl> Stay up to date on your PC, the Web, and your mobile phone with Windows Live Click here Get 5 GB of storage with Windows Live Hotmail. Sign up today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2008 Report Share Posted November 12, 2008 You are right Rose..... Better safe than sorry. Hugs, oleander soup , Gypsy Rose <gypsy___rose wrote: > > > I don't know why they wouldn't be. That why I was asking! You just never know what is and isn't. Always better to be safe and ask questions!!! > > Hugs, > Rose www.orangecountypropertyservices.com714.549-3519 Office/Fax 714.349-1200 Cell > Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. ~Dr. Seuss > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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