Guest guest Posted May 22, 2007 Report Share Posted May 22, 2007 High Number Of Moms Admit Pot Use Site Finds Moms, Teachers Smoking Pot POSTED: 2:52 pm EDT May 18, 2007 http://www.nbc4.com/family/13347772/detail.html Email This Story | Print This Story PHOENIX -- A number of mothers in the Phoenix area admit they use marijuana to wind down after a long day, television station KPHO reported. Shay Pausa surveyed hundreds of mothers through her Web site, Chikii.com. She targeted women in affluent suburban areas. "These were middle to upper-middle class women, professional women, mommies. We had some that were members of the PTA and one school teacher even reported," Pausa said. They're women like Jan, who's 30 and has one child. "I like it just to relax, if I'm very stressed out and I just need some time, just to relax. It's good for that," Jan said. Sue is 37 and has two kids. "But I've also used it for headaches. I've used it when I've been sick with the stomach flu, when I've been really nauseous and, I mean, I need to function. So it's in my medicine cabinet," Sue said. Of the hundreds of mothers Pausa surveyed, 52 percent said they smoke pot at least 10 times a year. Twenty-seven percent said they smoke it one to seven times a week. Some of the women even said they would someday tell their kids about their secret. That's what most concerns some anti-drug groups. "So what kind of message is that sending to a child? If it's OK to smoke pot in the house, is it OK to steal? Bottom line, it's illegal," said Sarah Christiansen of NotMyKid.org. So where do the women get marijuana? Some said they drop hints among friends until they find one that shares the habit. Others said they grow it themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2007 Report Share Posted May 29, 2007 High Number Of Moms Admit Pot Use>> If we can find these folks and place their children in foster care, until the women serve out their sentence, we still might save those children. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2007 Report Share Posted May 29, 2007 Why not ask first why the moms are using the pot? Or, why not ask first if the measured and interpreted statistic is according to reality? What would "we" save them to? A statist education? Since it would be the state that commits them to foster care? And, it would be the state who would pay the foster parents. How much pot use would qualify for having one's children taken away? How much obesity would qualify for having one's children taken away? How many trips to MacDonald's would qualify for having one's children taken away? How many bullets and/or guns in one's house would qualify for having one's children taken away? Would the accusation of somebody else of being condemned to hell for being a homosexual (the committal of a hate crime) qualify one for having one's children taken away (for teaching them hatred)? Good grief! Let's rely on the state for everything. Do you personally have room in your world and life and view for others who have differing opinions that they act on? Or must we all be like each other? Ed - JazziDJess Tuesday, May 29, 2007 7:34 AM Re: High Number Of Moms Admit Pot Use High Number Of Moms Admit Pot Use>> If we can find these folks and place their children in foster care, until the women serve out their sentence, we still might save those children. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2007 Report Share Posted May 29, 2007 As well as pot - the lesser of many other evil options - we could smoke or drink, killing them eventually with the first and being abusive with the latter - there isn't much violence associated with pot - using it you might even see more clearly why children these days can be such a challenge and it would also leave you brain dead enough for you to cope with them - AND it was probably the kids that introduced you to the pot in the first place. It is very scary dividing up your soul between the priest, the physician and the politician - you have to scrape together courage from somewhere ............ Jane - Ed Siceloff Tuesday, May 29, 2007 10:00 PM Re: High Number Of Moms Admit Pot Use Why not ask first why the moms are using the pot? Or, why not ask first if the measured and interpreted statistic is according to reality? What would "we" save them to? A statist education? Since it would be the state that commits them to foster care? And, it would be the state who would pay the foster parents. How much pot use would qualify for having one's children taken away? How much obesity would qualify for having one's children taken away? How many trips to MacDonald's would qualify for having one's children taken away? How many bullets and/or guns in one's house would qualify for having one's children taken away? Would the accusation of somebody else of being condemned to hell for being a homosexual (the committal of a hate crime) qualify one for having one's children taken away (for teaching them hatred)? Good grief! Let's rely on the state for everything. Do you personally have room in your world and life and view for others who have differing opinions that they act on? Or must we all be like each other? Ed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2007 Report Share Posted May 29, 2007 Good reply to this Ed. Don't you think having one's Mom in jail for something so stupid- a non violent 'crime' would be much more tramatic for a child than to have his Mom smoke weed? Maybe she should just drink alcohol the State allows that. Either way foster care is not the answer. Have you read any of the posts lately about kids getting abused IN EVERY WAY POSSIBLE in foster care? The article did not say these Moms were FUBAR just that they had smoked it occasionaly. - Ed Siceloff Tuesday, May 29, 2007 8:00 AM Re: High Number Of Moms Admit Pot Use Why not ask first why the moms are using the pot? Or, why not ask first if the measured and interpreted statistic is according to reality? What would "we" save them to? A statist education? Since it would be the state that commits them to foster care? And, it would be the state who would pay the foster parents. How much pot use would qualify for having one's children taken away? How much obesity would qualify for having one's children taken away? How many trips to MacDonald's would qualify for having one's children taken away? How many bullets and/or guns in one's house would qualify for having one's children taken away? Would the accusation of somebody else of being condemned to hell for being a homosexual (the committal of a hate crime) qualify one for having one's children taken away (for teaching them hatred)? Good grief! Let's rely on the state for everything. Do you personally have room in your world and life and view for others who have differing opinions that they act on? Or must we all be like each other? Ed - JazziDJess (AT) wmconnect (DOT) com Tuesday, May 29, 2007 7:34 AM Re: High Number Of Moms Admit Pot Use High Number Of Moms Admit Pot Use>> If we can find these folks and place their children in foster care, until the women serve out their sentence, we still might save those children. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2007 Report Share Posted May 29, 2007 Yeah, I think that there are probably moms of at least two varieties who smoke weed. There'd be those who could give a gnat's eyelash for their children, and there would be those who sincerely love their children. And, there'd be the same categories among those who don't smoke weed. For those children who are in the category of having loving parents who smoke weed (moms in this case) it would be as totally traumatic to be put into foster care (many of whom at worst are abusers, but, many more of whom the act of taking care of foster children is a measured activity against a paycheck), as it would be for a child of a non-pot smoking parent who loves the child, for some other reason (didn't pay the electric bill on time so the electric gets turned off (evidence of neglect---let's say). The laws of this country are seldom, rarely, on the frequency of "miraculous" events, made to actually demonstrate "love" for anyone, to prevent harm. Almost always, they are made with the interest (either stated in power or money) of a politically recognized interest group. The rationale given to us "wee" folk is safety. And we flipping fall for it. Let's control the other guy because his actions are not safe to me. And, we walk away content, never noticing that there are both more dollars coming from our own pocket to pay for the safety, and that there is just one more increment of power and authority over ourselves taken away from us and given to the state that will, at some point, be detrimental to our own personal, private interest. Its totalitarianism. Ed - Kathy Tuesday, May 29, 2007 8:54 AM Re: High Number Of Moms Admit Pot Use Good reply to this Ed. Don't you think having one's Mom in jail for something so stupid- a non violent 'crime' would be much more tramatic for a child than to have his Mom smoke weed? Maybe she should just drink alcohol the State allows that. Either way foster care is not the answer. Have you read any of the posts lately about kids getting abused IN EVERY WAY POSSIBLE in foster care? The article did not say these Moms were FUBAR just that they had smoked it occasionaly. - Ed Siceloff Tuesday, May 29, 2007 8:00 AM Re: High Number Of Moms Admit Pot Use Why not ask first why the moms are using the pot? Or, why not ask first if the measured and interpreted statistic is according to reality? What would "we" save them to? A statist education? Since it would be the state that commits them to foster care? And, it would be the state who would pay the foster parents. How much pot use would qualify for having one's children taken away? How much obesity would qualify for having one's children taken away? How many trips to MacDonald's would qualify for having one's children taken away? How many bullets and/or guns in one's house would qualify for having one's children taken away? Would the accusation of somebody else of being condemned to hell for being a homosexual (the committal of a hate crime) qualify one for having one's children taken away (for teaching them hatred)? Good grief! Let's rely on the state for everything. Do you personally have room in your world and life and view for others who have differing opinions that they act on? Or must we all be like each other? Ed - JazziDJess (AT) wmconnect (DOT) com Tuesday, May 29, 2007 7:34 AM Re: High Number Of Moms Admit Pot Use High Number Of Moms Admit Pot Use>> If we can find these folks and place their children in foster care, until the women serve out their sentence, we still might save those children. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2007 Report Share Posted May 29, 2007 Wow, you’re kidding right? I’ve yet to see a pot-smoking mom kill her kids (or anyone else’s) by driving high. You might want to check out Alan Watt’s pov re: culture creation. I know a lot of smokers and drinkers, and I sure don’t see any correlation between smoking weed and poor parenting. Strangely, I can’t say the same thing about the drinkers. I think if the government could figure out how to keep people from growing their own, weed would have been legalized long ago. It’s illegal because they can’t control it well enough to tax it. Beyond that, foster care is usually a lot worse for the children than most of the drinking homes, much less the (big, bad, illegal) smokers. Don’t hold your breath waiting for those children to thank you….. On Behalf Of JazziDJess Tuesday, May 29, 2007 7:34 AM To: Re: High Number Of Moms Admit Pot Use High Number Of Moms Admit Pot Use>> If we can find these folks and place their children in foster care, until the women serve out their sentence, we still might save those children. .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2007 Report Share Posted May 29, 2007 I think that I have an undivided soul. I pledge allegiance to no group of politicians, and, am my own doctor and priest. I agree that pot is the lesser of many evils. One evil it is the lesser of, in my opinion, is tv. Ed - Jane MacRoss Tuesday, May 29, 2007 8:34 AM Re: High Number Of Moms Admit Pot Use As well as pot - the lesser of many other evil options - we could smoke or drink, killing them eventually with the first and being abusive with the latter - there isn't much violence associated with pot - using it you might even see more clearly why children these days can be such a challenge and it would also leave you brain dead enough for you to cope with them - AND it was probably the kids that introduced you to the pot in the first place. It is very scary dividing up your soul between the priest, the physician and the politician - you have to scrape together courage from somewhere ............ Jane - Ed Siceloff Tuesday, May 29, 2007 10:00 PM Re: High Number Of Moms Admit Pot Use Why not ask first why the moms are using the pot? Or, why not ask first if the measured and interpreted statistic is according to reality? What would "we" save them to? A statist education? Since it would be the state that commits them to foster care? And, it would be the state who would pay the foster parents. How much pot use would qualify for having one's children taken away? How much obesity would qualify for having one's children taken away? How many trips to MacDonald's would qualify for having one's children taken away? How many bullets and/or guns in one's house would qualify for having one's children taken away? Would the accusation of somebody else of being condemned to hell for being a homosexual (the committal of a hate crime) qualify one for having one's children taken away (for teaching them hatred)? Good grief! Let's rely on the state for everything. Do you personally have room in your world and life and view for others who have differing opinions that they act on? Or must we all be like each other? Ed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2007 Report Share Posted May 29, 2007 Here, here. And let us not forget the fact that social workers are actually paid bonuses based on the number of children they “secure”. Hundreds of these children go missing and are NEVER reported. The list goes on and on and the truth about foster care and other help from the state would leave most in abject horror and pure dismay. I wouldn’t call them on my very worst enemy, no matter what. I have found that a group of concerned males from a neighborhood block can put a quick stop to a physically abusive parent. It only takes a controlled show of force and a very carefully worded suggestion. On Behalf Of Ed Siceloff Tuesday, May 29, 2007 9:37 AM To: Re: High Number Of Moms Admit Pot Use Yeah, I think that there are probably moms of at least two varieties who smoke weed. There'd be those who could give a gnat's eyelash for their children, and there would be those who sincerely love their children. And, there'd be the same categories among those who don't smoke weed. For those children who are in the category of having loving parents who smoke weed (moms in this case) it would be as totally traumatic to be put into foster care (many of whom at worst are abusers, but, many more of whom the act of taking care of foster children is a measured activity against a paycheck), as it would be for a child of a non-pot smoking parent who loves the child, for some other reason (didn't pay the electric bill on time so the electric gets turned off (evidence of neglect---let's say). The laws of this country are seldom, rarely, on the frequency of " miraculous " events, made to actually demonstrate " love " for anyone, to prevent harm. Almost always, they are made with the interest (either stated in power or money) of a politically recognized interest group. The rationale given to us " wee " folk is safety. And we flipping fall for it. Let's control the other guy because his actions are not safe to me. And, we walk away content, never noticing that there are both more dollars coming from our own pocket to pay for the safety, and that there is just one more increment of power and authority over ourselves taken away from us and given to the state that will, at some point, be detrimental to our own personal, private interest. Its totalitarianism. Ed - Kathy Tuesday, May 29, 2007 8:54 AM Re: High Number Of Moms Admit Pot Use Good reply to this Ed. Don't you think having one's Mom in jail for something so stupid- a non violent 'crime' would be much more tramatic for a child than to have his Mom smoke weed? Maybe she should just drink alcohol the State allows that. Either way foster care is not the answer. Have you read any of the posts lately about kids getting abused IN EVERY WAY POSSIBLE in foster care? The article did not say these Moms were FUBAR just that they had smoked it occasionaly. - Ed Siceloff Tuesday, May 29, 2007 8:00 AM Re: High Number Of Moms Admit Pot Use Why not ask first why the moms are using the pot? Or, why not ask first if the measured and interpreted statistic is according to reality? What would " we " save them to? A statist education? Since it would be the state that commits them to foster care? And, it would be the state who would pay the foster parents. How much pot use would qualify for having one's children taken away? How much obesity would qualify for having one's children taken away? How many trips to MacDonald's would qualify for having one's children taken away? How many bullets and/or guns in one's house would qualify for having one's children taken away? Would the accusation of somebody else of being condemned to hell for being a homosexual (the committal of a hate crime) qualify one for having one's children taken away (for teaching them hatred)? Good grief! Let's rely on the state for everything. Do you personally have room in your world and life and view for others who have differing opinions that they act on? Or must we all be like each other? Ed - JazziDJess (AT) wmconnect (DOT) com Tuesday, May 29, 2007 7:34 AM Re: High Number Of Moms Admit Pot Use High Number Of Moms Admit Pot Use>> If we can find these folks and place their children in foster care, until the women serve out their sentence, we still might save those children. .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2007 Report Share Posted May 30, 2007 Thanks ED!!! i would also add that pot is the most sacred herb on the planet, it is the only herb that when mixed with a second herb, enhances the performance of the second....has a medicinal history of over 5,ooo years, found in the tombs of the Pharaohs, and to date has never been responsible for murder of mayhem of any kind!!! Would that the kids of Columbine been smoking or eating pot, there would never have been the tradgey we all will remember .....who knows , maybe the moms found out about the amazing aphrodisiac qualities of the noble herb, and started spicing up their love life?! Easing the pains of child birth was one of the most common uses early on, should i also mention the calming/relaxing effect of re-leaving stress? Even among the the pushers of the chemo drugs, they have been are aware of the mitigating benefits of pot, anti-nausa!! And much more!!! But in truth, i will sleep better knowing all those moms are being kept of the street for my protection....thank God for big brother![retch]!! Kraig Kraig Carroll Environmental Damage Repair --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.859 / Virus Database: 585 - Release 2/14/05 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2007 Report Share Posted May 30, 2007 I know some Rastafarians who, of course, do this everyday. They call pot the savior of the nations, if I remember correctly. But, it is not the only herb when mixed with a second enhances the first's performance. Chinese Licorice Root does that as well. They put it in all sorts of formulas to get the energies of each herb in the formula into its proper meridians and organs. Add another useful herb to your list. Ed - The Havens Wednesday, May 30, 2007 10:56 AM Re: High Number Of Moms Admit Pot Use Thanks ED!!! i would also add that pot is the most sacred herb on the planet, it is the only herb that when mixed with a second herb, enhances the performance of the second....has a medicinal history of over 5,ooo years, found in the tombs of the Pharaohs, and to date has never been responsible for murder of mayhem of any kind!!! Would that the kids of Columbine been smoking or eating pot, there would never have been the tradgey we all will remember .....who knows , maybe the moms found out about the amazing aphrodisiac qualities of the noble herb, and started spicing up their love life?! Easing the pains of child birth was one of the most common uses early on, should i also mention the calming/relaxing effect of re-leaving stress? Even among the the pushers of the chemo drugs, they have been are aware of the mitigating benefits of pot, anti-nausa!! And much more!!! But in truth, i will sleep better knowing all those moms are being kept of the street for my protection....thank God for big brother![retch]!! KraigKraig CarrollEnvironmental Damage Repair ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.859 / Virus Database: 585 - Release 2/14/05 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2007 Report Share Posted May 31, 2007 There is also the "fact," that a growing body of evidence appears to suggest that pot has anti-carcinogenic properties, and appears to have little or none of the harmful qualities it was thought to have. Whereas cigarette smoking (tobacco is legal, subsidized by our government, and its use condoned, in spite of the half million deaths associated with its use each year) does irreparable damage to your health, and the situation seems to be getting worse, each time science looks at cigarette smoking. jp - The Havens Wednesday, May 30, 2007 7:56 AM Re: High Number Of Moms Admit Pot Use Thanks ED!!! i would also add that pot is the most sacred herb on the planet, it is the only herb that when mixed with a second herb, enhances the performance of the second....has a medicinal history of over 5,ooo years, found in the tombs of the Pharaohs, and to date has never been responsible for murder of mayhem of any kind!!! Would that the kids of Columbine been smoking or eating pot, there would never have been the tradgey we all will remember .....who knows , maybe the moms found out about the amazing aphrodisiac qualities of the noble herb, and started spicing up their love life?! Easing the pains of child birth was one of the most common uses early on, should i also mention the calming/relaxing effect of re-leaving stress? Even among the the pushers of the chemo drugs, they have been are aware of the mitigating benefits of pot, anti-nausa!! And much more!!! But in truth, i will sleep better knowing all those moms are being kept of the street for my protection....thank God for big brother![retch]!! KraigKraig CarrollEnvironmental Damage Repair ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.859 / Virus Database: 585 - Release 2/14/05 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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