Guest guest Posted October 1, 2003 Report Share Posted October 1, 2003 evening, i was wondering if any of you have had any experience with treating or helping with treatment of a person with bi-polar conditions. i've been seeing advertisement for a product called serenity that's suppose to have a natural form of lithium in it. any body have any experience with this product? one of my sons has a friend that was diagnoised with this disorder and she's having a terrible time regulating the prescribed meds. it seems to me that they are using her as a guine pig of sorts. first they were too overwhelming, so much so, as to make her into a zombie. now i'm not sure that they are enough as she's been having highs and lows constant for awhile now. no, i'm not trying to play doctor here, just want to give her some information to arm herself with for her next doctor visit. as you well know, sometimes you have to be an advocate for yourself with these doctors. any suggestions are more than welcome! deb c www.fourwyndz.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2003 Report Share Posted October 1, 2003 Hello Deb, I don't know anything about bi-polar, but my sister who is diagnosed as depressed and anger problems was prescribed neurotin(sp) - Dateline on NBC did a big story on this drug which is for epilepsy and how the drug company is pushing it big time to Drs. for use for everything bi-polar to anxiety, it is not approved for these diseases and the data is " made up " and a sales rep. admitted he was told to push this drug to the maximum dosage to Drs. as the new wonder cross over drug- One woman was put on it and taken off her meds for bi-polar and became suicidal. The drug company is being sued, forgot the name but its a big one. I would check and see if neurotin is one of the meds and mention it to the Dr. - my sister continues to take it but thats another story shes addicted to prescription meds and obtains them through various pharmicologists, but her Dr. feels it is a safe drug,her side effects are slurred speech and falling, confusion and sudden mood changes- but again she is on alot of meds, but these symptoms occurred after she began the neurotin- the evidence in the case shows that the company made up studies and paid Drs. to sign it. Not alot of help on the natural approach, sorry but I would check on the neurotin and good luck to you and your son, take care of yourselves also -helping someone with a mental illness can be very exhausting. Gea , Deb Cummings <echo7c@g...> wrote: > evening, > i was wondering if any of you have had any experience with treating or > helping with treatment of a person with bi-polar conditions. i've been > seeing advertisement for a product called serenity that's suppose to > have a natural form of lithium in it. any body have any experience with > this product? one of my sons has a friend that was diagnoised with this > disorder and she's having a terrible time regulating the prescribed meds. > it seems to me that they are using her as a guine pig of sorts. first > they were > too overwhelming, so much so, as to make her into a zombie. now i'm not > sure that they are enough as she's been having highs and lows constant for > awhile now. no, i'm not trying to play doctor here, just want to give her > some information to arm herself with for her next doctor visit. as you well > know, sometimes you have to be an advocate for yourself with these doctors. > any suggestions are more than welcome! > deb c > www.fourwyndz.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2003 Report Share Posted October 1, 2003 Deb, I can tell you one thing . It is important that the patient work closely with their Dr. in getting this condition stabilized with Meds, and complementary approaches. My Grand Daughter In Law who suffered from Bi Polor since the sixth grade would not take her meds all the time. When she got feeling better she would stop taking them, thinking she had it under control. This is never the case! She took her own life a few weeks ago after being off her meds for a month. She leaves behind a distraught husband and a 18 month old son. This condition requires good communication between Patient and Dr. Please encourage her to work closely with her Dr. and to play a major role in balancing her condition. Sandi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2003 Report Share Posted October 1, 2003 Sandi, I'm so sorry that your family had to suffer such a tragedy. Such a heartbreaking time. It's true that a person with untreated bi-polar is many MANY times more likely to commit suicide than anyone else. Deb, I live with a man who has a bi-polar condition and I agree with Sandi--it's crucial that the meds are taken EVERY day. I can tell when my sweetie misses a dose (#*@*!) And it's crucial that the patient works closely with doctors she/he trusts, to find a balance of meds that works. It may take a year or longer to reach that point, but it's worth the effort. PATIENCE is a key element. Linda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2003 Report Share Posted October 1, 2003 Deb - wouldn't be the first time a 'cross-over' drug was pushed. Cytotec for induction of labor was also a biggie. Ulcer drug. Letters were sent by the drug manufacturer informing doctors that it was not to be used for labor induction - known to cause fetal and maternal death. In the end though...dollar signs won. The FDA has now allowed the label to be modified to allow (not necessarily approve) the drug to be used that way. I forget the legal mumbling words on the label for allowing its use. If something in you is telling you or flashing you some signs that this drug isn't quite 'right' with you - I would listen. Do some more research. Ask others' opinions. Thank goodness for the web - you might find others who have used the drug or find websites with more information. Take care of yourselves and I hope you will be able to help your friend. Dale - Gea Wednesday, October 01, 2003 5:50 AM Re: bi-polar Hello Deb, I don't know anything about bi-polar, but my sister who is diagnosed as depressed and anger problems was prescribed neurotin(sp) - Dateline on NBC did a big story on this drug which is for epilepsy and how the drug company is pushing it big time to Drs. for use for everything bi-polar to anxiety, it is not approved for these diseases and the data is " made up " and a sales rep. admitted he was told to push this drug to the maximum dosage to Drs. as the new wonder cross over drug- One woman was put on it and taken off her meds for bi-polar and became suicidal. .... Not alot of help on the natural approach, sorry but I would check on the neurotin and good luck to you and your son, take care of yourselves also -helping someone with a mental illness can be very exhausting. Gea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2003 Report Share Posted October 2, 2003 morning everyone! i do so appreciate all the impute on this issue. i might have not come across as being in favor of the doctor's prescribed medications. this is not the case. i have had friend's who's loved ones have taken their lives because they thought they had it all under control without the meds. i do understand how closely one has to work with their doctors to get these meds correct and in balance with the body. i guess what i was really asking was, is there any supplimental, add-on's, or kind of help you over the rough spots type things that could be done to easy the transitions while adjusting the meds? or would this just confuse the situation? what i was looking at was making up some lavander dream pillows to help her relax and sleep better or maybe some of the bach flower essence such as the rescue remedy for the panic attacks. there is alot of extra stuff going on in her household that i think contribute to her problems. i know, this is my ego talking. an outsider looking in. her mother has her own health problems and i wonder if the woman feels that the lime light is taken off her with the daughter's problems. it's effecting the younger sister also and the mother feels that this is causing the younger one to have an ulcer. therefore heaping heaping more blame on the girl to add to her problems. my son is a level II reiki and i am a master reiki. we've also discussed annalee being attuned to level I to give her another way to help herself. as i said before, i don't want to interfear with any medical approach, just ease the way a bit. it's a struggle for all. thanks again for all the great impute on this subject. debc www.fourwyndz.com > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2003 Report Share Posted October 2, 2003 Miss Deb~ I have stayed out of this conversation until now, but I would like to add my two cents in at this point. My husband does research for the National Institue of Mental Health through a Big Ten University. The project he has worked on for the past 13 years is Bi-polar and Depression. They continue to have funding so for now the research will continue. What I have learned, as a side liner is, sometimes a lavender sachet or diffusing helps and sometimes it aggravates. Bottom line there is no pat answer. Sometimes a RX will work well for a period of time and then sometimes it is no longer effective. Yes it sounds like everyone is practicing or experimenting and no one is getting it right. I very often type up file reports of various clients and so I am not a researcher, I am drawing my conclusions after reading and typing thousands of files. My suggestion, help to educate the person on eo's let them decide when lavender or orange or whatever is what appeals to them. Some days nothing appeals, keep them in the light, and know this section of the population has a higher than normal percentage of suicide. It is pain for there family and friends as in many cases very painful for the person who carries this burden. I have seen some of these folks go off med's and swear they are taking them. One young lady mailed a video tape she had made 6 months before telling her family she would commit suicide on her birthday in Oct. She did and yet continued to keep her appointments and commitments up until that morning. She said she could not bare to let her family and friends down any more. The notes from her therapist the week before were full of praise for the ladies hard work in overcoming many of her situations. Several of the offices at the university have diffusers in them. Serveral of the interviews keep eo's going. One prof will often ask someone who is restless to " just smell this and tell me what you think " as tho it was a perfume she was considering. Much of it is trial and error. May you be blessed in your effort. May this person have more days when aromas appeal and comfort. May we find the answers to what causes so many to live with sure a burden in their being. Janet >morning everyone! >i do so appreciate all the impute on this issue. i might have not come >across as being >in favor of the doctor's prescribed medications. this is not the case. >i have had >friend's who's loved ones have taken their lives because they thought >they had it all >under control without the meds. i do understand how closely one has to >work with >their doctors to get these meds correct and in balance with the body. > >i guess what i was really asking was, is there any supplimental, >add-on's, or kind of >help you over the rough spots type things that could be done to easy the >transitions >while adjusting the meds? or would this just confuse the situation? > >what i was looking at was making up some lavander dream pillows to help >her relax >and sleep better or maybe some of the bach flower essence such as the >rescue remedy >for the panic attacks. there is alot of extra stuff going on in her >household that i think >contribute to her problems. i know, this is my ego talking. an >outsider looking in. >her mother has her own health problems and i wonder if the woman feels >that the lime >light is taken off her with the daughter's problems. it's effecting the >younger sister also and >the mother feels that this is causing the younger one to have an ulcer. >therefore heaping >heaping more blame on the girl to add to her problems. > >my son is a level II reiki and i am a master reiki. we've also >discussed annalee being attuned >to level I to give her another way to help herself. as i said before, i >don't want to interfear with >any medical approach, just ease the way a bit. it's a struggle for all. >thanks again for all the great impute on this subject. >debc >www.fourwyndz.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2004 Report Share Posted October 11, 2004 hello all, i would like to find out if anyone has any information on the treatment of bi-polar disorder by natural means. my better half was diagnosed with this about 21 yrs. ago, since then she has been on medication at all times ,prozac, lithium, and depacote, just to name a few. well now the doctors are telling her that her thyroid (?) is not functioning right so she is on medication for that as well. she used to be a very pretty girl, she was in several beauty pagents, homecoming queen in high school and such, now she is starting to look like she is very old and drawn out, notto mention the fact that she has put on about 200 lbs. in the past 6-7 years. i think that most of her health problems are caused by all these strong drugs, but i cannot find any alternative methods for her. any help would be appreciated. thx jeff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2004 Report Share Posted October 11, 2004 Hi Jeff, One book I strongly encourage EVERYONE to get (and I don't have any vested interest or ulterior motive whatsoever other than this book has literally changed my life) is " Prescriptions for Nutritional Healing " by Phyllis Balch. The bulk of the book is an A-to-Z listing of tons of common ailments, from asthma & Alzheimer's to Varicose Veins and Warts, with informative background on each ailment and TONS of suggestions for how to treat everything naturally. For Manic Depression/Bipolar disorder, it lists supplements such as B-Complex, free-form amino acid complexes, zinc, and others. It also gives general recommendations like eating whole grains and whole grain products, especially those containing gluten (yes, even with all the hubbub surrounding so-called gluten intolerances), and it goes on to say that a diet high in omega-3 fatty acids is beneficial (and the authors include sources), accurately stating that Omega-3 oils have some of the same positive effects as lithium. It also lists simple solutions, like establishing and maintaining a daily routine and to make sure to get enough sleep because a lack of sleep can aggravate the situation and " can trigger a relapse. " The book also tells you what to avoid, like choline, sugar, flavorings, preservatives, etc, and some isolated amino acids. Great advice from an awesome book. There's actually a few pages of information in the book, but I included just a few of the nuts & bolts for brevity. Hope that helps, --JL herbal remedies , " jeff outz " <jgoutz> wrote: > > > hello all, > i would like to find out if anyone has any information on the > treatment of bi-polar disorder by natural means. my better half was > diagnosed with this about 21 yrs. ago, since then she has been on > medication at all times ,prozac, lithium, and depacote, just to name > a few. well now the doctors are telling her that her thyroid (?) is > not functioning right so she is on medication for that as well. she > used to be a very pretty girl, she was in several beauty pagents, > homecoming queen in high school and such, now she is starting to look > like she is very old and drawn out, notto mention the fact that she > has put on about 200 lbs. in the past 6-7 years. i think that most > of her health problems are caused by all these strong drugs, but i > cannot find any alternative methods for her. any help would be > appreciated. thx > jeff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2004 Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 Hi Jeff, I apologize that it took me so long to answer your questions. My mother was diagnosed with bipolar and I am currently rewriting a " lifestyle change " for her to help her get off of all those drugs. Similar to what your dear wife is on. I on the other hand I am the one with thyroid troubles in our family.- i have hypothyroid and gained weight from it untill I went to see a thyroid specialist and was put on the right dosage. The thyroid is what controlls our bodies metabolism. Anyway I hope your wife is seeing a specialist for her thyroid for the very reason that it is such an important orgin our bodies. I take levoxyl for mine. I would never try taking an herbal forms for this partical disease. However back to the bipolar.. I will email you with the written suggestions I have saved for my mother . Hugs and best wishes - you can help her get through this and back to feeling much better.. I did it and my mother is doing it. Hugs Deana jeff outz wrote: > > > hello all, > i would like to find out if anyone has any information on the > treatment of bi-polar disorder by natural means. my better half was > diagnosed with this about 21 yrs. ago, since then she has been on > medication at all times ,prozac, lithium, and depacote, just to name > a few. well now the doctors are telling her that her thyroid (?) is > not functioning right so she is on medication for that as well. she > used to be a very pretty girl, she was in several beauty pagents, > homecoming queen in high school and such, now she is starting to look > like she is very old and drawn out, notto mention the fact that she > has put on about 200 lbs. in the past 6-7 years. i think that most > of her health problems are caused by all these strong drugs, but i > cannot find any alternative methods for her. any help would be > appreciated. thx > jeff > > Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: > 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. > 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any > natural remedy. > 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician > and to > prescribe for your own health. > We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as > long as > they behave themselves. > Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any > person > following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. > It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products > from list members, you are agreeing to > be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and > members free of any liability. > > Dr. Ian Shillington > Doctor of Naturopathy > Dr.IanShillington > > > * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2004 Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 Hey, I totally agree about this book being good. The first place I saw it was in a GNC store where they were using it as their bible. I had them order me one. That was several years ago. Allisonsupervixen08 <supervixen08 wrote: Hi Jeff, One book I strongly encourage EVERYONE to get (and I don't have anyvested interest or ulterior motive whatsoever other than this book hasliterally changed my life) is "Prescriptions for Nutritional Healing"by Phyllis Balch. Y! Messenger - Communicate in real time. Download now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2004 Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 Uh, I take it you have not called Doc? If you had you would not say this about bi-polar. Or really anything else. -Shelby Deana [squeekyme] Monday, October 11, 2004 4:21 PM herbal remedies Re: Herbal Remedies - bi-polar I would never try taking an herbal forms for this partical disease. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2004 Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 Deane, why don't you post these written suggestions to the list? Then we can all benefit! love Lisa - Deana herbal remedies Tuesday, October 12, 2004 1:20 AM Re: Herbal Remedies - bi-polar Hi Jeff, I apologize that it took me so long to answer your questions. My mother was diagnosed with bipolar and I am currently rewriting a "lifestyle change" for her to help her get off of all those drugs. Similar to what your dear wife is on.I on the other hand I am the one with thyroid troubles in our family.- i have hypothyroid and gained weight from it untill I went to see a thyroid specialist and was put on the right dosage. The thyroid is what controlls our bodies metabolism. Anyway I hope your wife is seeing a specialist for her thyroid for the very reason that it is such an important orgin our bodies. I take levoxyl for mine. I would never try taking an herbal forms for this partical disease.However back to the bipolar.. I will email you with the written suggestions I have saved for my mother .Hugs and best wishes - you can help her get through this and back to feeling much better.. I did it and my mother is doing it.HugsDeanajeff outz wrote:>>> hello all,> i would like to find out if anyone has any information on the> treatment of bi-polar disorder by natural means. my better half was> diagnosed with this about 21 yrs. ago, since then she has been on> medication at all times ,prozac, lithium, and depacote, just to name> a few. well now the doctors are telling her that her thyroid (?) is> not functioning right so she is on medication for that as well. she> used to be a very pretty girl, she was in several beauty pagents,> homecoming queen in high school and such, now she is starting to look> like she is very old and drawn out, notto mention the fact that she> has put on about 200 lbs. in the past 6-7 years. i think that most> of her health problems are caused by all these strong drugs, but i> cannot find any alternative methods for her. any help would be> appreciated. thx> jeff>>>>>>>>> Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: > 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire.> 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any > natural remedy. > 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician > and to> prescribe for your own health. > We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as > long as> they behave themselves. > Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any > person> following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk.> It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products > from list members, you are agreeing to> be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and > members free of any liability.>> Dr. Ian Shillington> Doctor of Naturopathy> Dr.IanShillington>> * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2004 Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 also no I haven't called Doc yet. I am really not comfortable calling a stranger even a doctor at that yet. Someday I might feel comfortable but I am not going to get into tears trying to pick up a phone when it makes me really scared.. Thx Deana Shelby Blakely wrote: > Uh, I take it you have not called Doc? If you had you would not say this > about bi-polar. Or really anything else. > -Shelby > > > Deana [squeekyme] > Monday, October 11, 2004 4:21 PM > herbal remedies > Re: Herbal Remedies - bi-polar > > > I would never try > taking an herbal forms for this partical disease. Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: > 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. > 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any > natural remedy. > 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician > and to > prescribe for your own health. > We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as > long as > they behave themselves. > Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any > person > following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. > It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products > from list members, you are agreeing to > be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and > members free of any liability. > > Dr. Ian Shillington > Doctor of Naturopathy > Dr.IanShillington > > > * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2004 Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 Wow Deana... what about it scares you? why do you distrust or consider herbal options unlikely or unacceptable for this condition over others? Julie - Deana herbal remedies Tuesday, October 12, 2004 8:48 AM Re: Herbal Remedies - bi-polar also no I haven't called Doc yet. I am really not comfortable calling a stranger even a doctor at that yet. Someday I might feel comfortable but I am not going to get into tears trying to pick up a phone when it makes me really scared.. ThxDeanaShelby Blakely wrote:> Uh, I take it you have not called Doc? If you had you would not say this> about bi-polar. Or really anything else.> -Shelby>> > Deana [squeekyme]> Monday, October 11, 2004 4:21 PM> herbal remedies > Re: Herbal Remedies - bi-polar>>> I would never try> taking an herbal forms for this partical disease.>>>>>>> Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: > 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire.> 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any > natural remedy. > 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician > and to> prescribe for your own health. > We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as > long as> they behave themselves. > Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any > person> following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk.> It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products > from list members, you are agreeing to> be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and > members free of any liability.>> Dr. Ian Shillington> Doctor of Naturopathy> Dr.IanShillington>> * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2004 Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 Deana, that is your a choice for you to make..does that mean you will follow the doctor's advice with no second opinion? It sounds like your fear of following your conventional doctor is less than your fear of talking with someone you don't know. I would rather call Doc for counsel than take a conventional doctors advice without counsel. But, alas we are all free to make our own decisions, hopefully making ourselves fully informed using wisdom. So be it. I hope for the best for you. SharonDeana <squeekyme wrote: also no I haven't called Doc yet. I am really not comfortable calling a stranger even a doctor at that yet. Someday I might feel comfortable but I am not going to get into tears trying to pick up a phone when it makes me really scared.. ThxDeanaHe who dwells in teh shelter of the Most High will abide in the shadow of the Allmighty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2004 Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 If you read my email a little better I said that about the thyroid not the bi-polar I have not ventured to the point of taking herbals for my thyroid yet and I personal will not till I have adjusted my other situations that you have read in other emails. Hope you understand my clarification now Thx Hugs Deana Shelby Blakely wrote: > Uh, I take it you have not called Doc? If you had you would not say this > about bi-polar. Or really anything else. > -Shelby > > > Deana [squeekyme] > Monday, October 11, 2004 4:21 PM > herbal remedies > Re: Herbal Remedies - bi-polar > > > I would never try > taking an herbal forms for this partical disease. Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: > 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. > 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any > natural remedy. > 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician > and to > prescribe for your own health. > We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as > long as > they behave themselves. > Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any > person > following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. > It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products > from list members, you are agreeing to > be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and > members free of any liability. > > Dr. Ian Shillington > Doctor of Naturopathy > Dr.IanShillington > > > * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2004 Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 I will post it to the group, I hadn't finished the writing to my mom, I was still putting it together but I will try to finish it today. I started babysitting yesterday so I have a 7week old and a 7month old that take up alot of my energy now..LOL Hugs Deana Lisa Belcher wrote: > Deane, why don't you post these written suggestions to the list? Then > we can all benefit! > > love > Lisa > > - > ** Deana <squeekyme > *To:* herbal remedies > <herbal remedies > > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 12, 2004 1:20 AM > *Subject:* Re: Herbal Remedies - bi-polar > > > > Hi Jeff, I apologize that it took me so long to answer your > questions. > > My mother was diagnosed with bipolar and I am currently rewriting a > " lifestyle change " for her to help her get off of all those drugs. > Similar to what your dear wife is on. > > I on the other hand I am the one with thyroid troubles in our > family.- > i have hypothyroid and gained weight from it untill I went to see a > thyroid specialist and was put on the right dosage. The thyroid > is what > controlls our bodies metabolism. Anyway I hope your wife is seeing a > specialist for her thyroid for the very reason that it is such an > important orgin our bodies. I take levoxyl for mine. I would > never try > taking an herbal forms for this partical disease. > > However back to the bipolar.. I will email you with the written > suggestions I have saved for my mother . > > Hugs and best wishes - you can help her get through this and back to > feeling much better.. I did it and my mother is doing it. > > Hugs > Deana > > > jeff outz wrote: > > > > > > > hello all, > > i would like to find out if anyone has any information on the > > treatment of bi-polar disorder by natural means. my better half was > > diagnosed with this about 21 yrs. ago, since then she has been on > > medication at all times ,prozac, lithium, and depacote, just to name > > a few. well now the doctors are telling her that her thyroid (?) is > > not functioning right so she is on medication for that as well. she > > used to be a very pretty girl, she was in several beauty pagents, > > homecoming queen in high school and such, now she is starting to > look > > like she is very old and drawn out, notto mention the fact that she > > has put on about 200 lbs. in the past 6-7 years. i think that most > > of her health problems are caused by all these strong drugs, but i > > cannot find any alternative methods for her. any help would be > > appreciated. thx > > jeff > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: > > 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. > > 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any > > natural remedy. > > 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own > physician > > and to > > prescribe for your own health. > > We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as > > long as > > they behave themselves. > > Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and > any > > person > > following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own > risk. > > It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or > products > > from list members, you are agreeing to > > be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List > Owner and > > members free of any liability. > > > > Dr. Ian Shillington > > Doctor of Naturopathy > > Dr.IanShillington <Dr.IanShillington > > > > > > * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2004 Report Share Posted October 13, 2004 The thyroid is responsible for QUITE a bit in the body, and it's important that it is functioning properly. I take nothing BUT foods and herbs for my thyroid. One herbal remedy that is particularly beneficial specifically FOR the thyroid is kelp. I take it in capsule form and it works great for me. There are also other forms in which to take it. Kelp is wonderful because it provides a balanced ratio of essential trace minerals that most Americans are often deficient in, particularly iodine. Iodine is pretty much known as " the " thyroid mineral. All I need is 1-2 capsules at breakfast every 1-3 days and I'm a happy camper. Please consider something like this! Just my experience, --Jen herbal remedies , Deana <squeekyme@c...> wrote: > > If you read my email a little better I said that about the thyroid not > the bi-polar > I have not ventured to the point of taking herbals for my thyroid yet > and I personal will not till I have adjusted my other situations that > you have read in other emails. > > Hope you understand my clarification now > > Thx > Hugs > Deana > > Shelby Blakely wrote: > > > Uh, I take it you have not called Doc? If you had you would not say this > > about bi-polar. Or really anything else. > > -Shelby > > > > > > Deana [squeekyme@c...] > > Monday, October 11, 2004 4:21 PM > > herbal remedies > > Re: Herbal Remedies - bi-polar > > > > > > I would never try > > taking an herbal forms for this partical disease. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: > > 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. > > 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any > > natural remedy. > > 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician > > and to > > prescribe for your own health. > > We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as > > long as > > they behave themselves. > > Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any > > person > > following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. > > It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products > > from list members, you are agreeing to > > be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and > > members free of any liability. > > > > Dr. Ian Shillington > > Doctor of Naturopathy > > Dr.IanShillington@G... > > > > > > * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2004 Report Share Posted October 14, 2004 do you have HypOthyroid or HypERthyroid.. or is there a site that talks about treating the first.. mine is underactive not producing the correct amt of whatever it produces. thx Deana supervixen08 wrote: > > > The thyroid is responsible for QUITE a bit in the body, and it's > important that it is functioning properly. I take nothing BUT foods > and herbs for my thyroid. One herbal remedy that is particularly > beneficial specifically FOR the thyroid is kelp. I take it in capsule > form and it works great for me. There are also other forms in which to > take it. Kelp is wonderful because it provides a balanced ratio of > essential trace minerals that most Americans are often deficient in, > particularly iodine. Iodine is pretty much known as " the " thyroid > mineral. All I need is 1-2 capsules at breakfast every 1-3 days and > I'm a happy camper. Please consider something like this! > > Just my experience, > --Jen > > herbal remedies , Deana <squeekyme@c...> wrote: > > > > If you read my email a little better I said that about the thyroid not > > the bi-polar > > I have not ventured to the point of taking herbals for my thyroid yet > > and I personal will not till I have adjusted my other situations that > > you have read in other emails. > > > > Hope you understand my clarification now > > > > Thx > > Hugs > > Deana > > > > Shelby Blakely wrote: > > > > > Uh, I take it you have not called Doc? If you had you would not > say this > > > about bi-polar. Or really anything else. > > > -Shelby > > > > > > > > > Deana [squeekyme@c...] > > > Monday, October 11, 2004 4:21 PM > > > herbal remedies > > > Re: Herbal Remedies - bi-polar > > > > > > > > > I would never try > > > taking an herbal forms for this partical disease. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: > > > 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. > > > 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any > > > natural remedy. > > > 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician > > > and to > > > prescribe for your own health. > > > We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as > > > long as > > > they behave themselves. > > > Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any > > > person > > > following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. > > > It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products > > > from list members, you are agreeing to > > > be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and > > > members free of any liability. > > > > > > Dr. Ian Shillington > > > Doctor of Naturopathy > > > Dr.IanShillington@G... > > > > > > > > > * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2004 Report Share Posted October 14, 2004 Hiya Deana I have (had) hypo. HypOthyroid means it doesn't produce enough thyroid hormone, and it needs iodine (in balance with other trace minerals) for that. Kelp has that stuff in balance; that's why it works so well for me. Hope that helps, --Jen herbal remedies , Deana <squeekyme@c...> wrote: > > do you have HypOthyroid or HypERthyroid.. > > or is there a site that talks about treating the first.. mine is > underactive not producing the correct amt of whatever it produces. > > thx > Deana > > supervixen08 wrote: > > > > > > > The thyroid is responsible for QUITE a bit in the body, and it's > > important that it is functioning properly. I take nothing BUT foods > > and herbs for my thyroid. One herbal remedy that is particularly > > beneficial specifically FOR the thyroid is kelp. I take it in capsule > > form and it works great for me. There are also other forms in which to > > take it. Kelp is wonderful because it provides a balanced ratio of > > essential trace minerals that most Americans are often deficient in, > > particularly iodine. Iodine is pretty much known as " the " thyroid > > mineral. All I need is 1-2 capsules at breakfast every 1-3 days and > > I'm a happy camper. Please consider something like this! > > > > Just my experience, > > --Jen > > > > herbal remedies , Deana <squeekyme@c...> wrote: > > > > > > If you read my email a little better I said that about the thyroid not > > > the bi-polar > > > I have not ventured to the point of taking herbals for my thyroid yet > > > and I personal will not till I have adjusted my other situations that > > > you have read in other emails. > > > > > > Hope you understand my clarification now > > > > > > Thx > > > Hugs > > > Deana > > > > > > Shelby Blakely wrote: > > > > > > > Uh, I take it you have not called Doc? If you had you would not > > say this > > > > about bi-polar. Or really anything else. > > > > -Shelby > > > > > > > > > > > > Deana [squeekyme@c...] > > > > Monday, October 11, 2004 4:21 PM > > > > herbal remedies > > > > Re: Herbal Remedies - bi-polar > > > > > > > > > > > > I would never try > > > > taking an herbal forms for this partical disease. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: > > > > 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. > > > > 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any > > > > natural remedy. > > > > 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician > > > > and to > > > > prescribe for your own health. > > > > We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as > > > > long as > > > > they behave themselves. > > > > Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any > > > > person > > > > following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. > > > > It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products > > > > from list members, you are agreeing to > > > > be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and > > > > members free of any liability. > > > > > > > > Dr. Ian Shillington > > > > Doctor of Naturopathy > > > > Dr.IanShillington@G... > > > > > > > > > > > > * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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