Guest guest Posted October 11, 2004 Report Share Posted October 11, 2004 It's truly amazing, isn't it? I'm a massage therapist north of Dallas and time after time when a client has chronic soreness that won't go away, even with regular massage, it's because they consume aspartame-containing products. The formic acid that the ingredients break down into screw up the neurological system AND the musculature and these clients are often in chronic pain all over. Also, check out a book called " Sweet Poison " by Janet Starr Hull. Her website, www.sweetpoison.com, has a lot of good information. Especially of note are some of the protocols for naturally detoxing this crap from the system. VERY cool stuff. And for EVERYONE (absolutely EVERYONE), I recommend a comprehensive hair analysis test, often referred to as a tissue mineral analysis. Janet has some info on the sweetpoison website about it, but that's not quite the BEST hair analysis test I've seen. It's fast, painless, (they just clip some of your hair and send it to a lab), and you get your results back in 2-3 weeks. Average price is about $200. It's often a wake-up call, even for those who believe they're doing all the right things. Some are indeed, and some actually are not. Just my thoughts. Blessings, --Jen herbal remedies , " Elizabeth Elliott " <eliz3378@e...> wrote: > Aspartame Disease: An FDA-Approved Epidemic > > By H. J. Roberts, M.D., F.A.C.P., F.C.C.P. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2004 Report Share Posted October 11, 2004 Thanks for posting this, Elizabeth! I 'knew' aspartame was bad but I didn't know how bad. I have decided to quit diet sodas altoghether and see how I feel. Sunday was the first day without them (and I really don't drink that many...usually 1 to 3 a day). Talk about cravings! I had them BIG TIME! I made organic iced-tea and drank that and water but boy-oh-boy did I want a diet soda! Then the headache came. Migraine-like...the kind that just won't go away no matter what you do! Today is the second day without aspartame containing products...NO headache...so far, craving is still there but not as bad as yesterday. I really think there is an addiction going on here and very real withdrawl symptoms. It's amazing and pisses me off. >( We'll see how I feel at the end of the week! BTW, I use stevia for my main sweetening agent and a little splenda. Stevie--who, btw, DID finish her last cleanse with her family! (even if they whined a lot more than me) I'm not 100% perfect yet (don't think I ever will be) but I continue to make positive changes in my and my family's life. On 9 Oct 2004 at 14:46, Elizabeth Elliott wrote: > Aspartame Disease: An FDA-Approved Epidemic > > By H. J. Roberts, M.D., F.A.C.P., F.C.C.P. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2004 Report Share Posted October 11, 2004 herbal remedies , " S.G.B. " <Babylon@o...> wrote: BTW, I use stevia for my > main sweetening agent and a little splenda. Howdy, Stevia is WONDERFUL. It has a little bit of an aftertaste, especially when applied too liberally, but with a little getting used to, it's a God-send. It is absolutely harmless, even in large amounts, and causes NO cravings. It's safe for everyone, including diabetics. NOW....about the Splenda. Please visit http://www.mercola.com/fcgi/pf/2004/mar/31/splenda_reaction.htm Splenda, to my understanding, can be as bad (or at least almost as bad) as aspartame. It was approved in much the same way as aspartame was, in regard to the lack of objective, reliable scientific tests. The tests are at best questionable, and at worst, partially fabricated. Some of the symptoms ppl experience after using Splenda are pretty nasty. Taken directly from the above-mentioned site: -- If you are using Splenda (the brand name for sucralose) because you think it is a safe alternative to sugar or other artificial sweeteners, then you may be in for a surprise. Splenda is not healthy and it can cause many problems in the body. Over three years ago I posted an article describing the dangers of Splenda, and, fortunately, it appears that more and more people are finally realizing the hazards that this " healthy " sweetener poses. There is still a long way to go toward educating the public about the health complications this sweetener is capable of causing, however. Splenda is far from healthy and I do not recommend using it in any form. Why not use Splenda? Well, research in animals has shown that sucralose can cause many problems such as: * Shrunken thymus glands (up to 40 percent shrinkage) * Enlarged liver and kidneys * Atrophy of lymph follicles in the spleen and thymus * Increased cecal weight * Reduced growth rate * Decreased red blood cell count * Hyperplasia of the pelvis * Extension of the pregnancy period * Aborted pregnancy * Decreased fetal body weights and placental weights * Diarrhea But perhaps the most revealing and powerful way to learn the dangerous truth about Splenda is to read someone's personal experience with it. Nearly every month we receive a report from someone who has had an adverse reaction to Splenda, and after you read through the story below you can read the many others posted on our site. The following story provides a revealing testimony to the dramatic effects Splenda can have on an otherwise healthy person. Contributed by Lori Hunt, RPh Pickens, SC Dear Dr. Mercola, I want to thank you for your Web site and especially for your documentation on the dangers of Splenda. I also want to pass on this testimonial in the hope it may help others. Last evening after dinner I began to feel flush. My husband commented how red my face was getting and, sure enough, one glance in the mirror confirmed a bright red, tight, shiny visage staring back at me. In the next few hours my eyes began to swell. I went to bed hoping I could " sleep it off. " How wrong I was. This morning I got up and my face was still red, bright and swollen with puffy eyes. I am a pharmacist and I have seen many anaphylactoid (allergic) reactions before. I began to feel concerned that I too was having one. I have had only one other reaction like this before in my life--to Bactrim. I went out for my usual morning run but by the first quarter mile I could barely breathe so I walked slowly back to the house. My right shoulder was burning so I went to the mirror and was horrified to find a HUGE 6 inch by 3 inch welt at the base of my neck (see photo). I also felt very panicky and shaky and immediately had two bouts of diarrhea in rapid succession. After 15 minutes and a cool shower on tissue that looked scalded, I was having difficulty breathing. I was seen in the local emergency room where the physician immediately gave me a dexamethasone injection in the hip and a prescription for Epi-pen and oral prednisone over four days. At the time I didn't know why I looked like I had ingested a sulfa drug. My husband and I tried to figure out what was different in my life over the last 12 hours. Laundry soap? Nope. Cake? Animal dander? No and no. A dear friend came to visit me in my misery and mentioned that I had started to flush at church, several hours before dinner. I remembered that I had had a cup of coffee and had tried the new creamer sitting by the pot. I remembered the Splenda label on it, which prompted my husband and I to search the Web and we found your site. The description by Marcia in the testimonial area caused me to burst into tears. Yes, Marcia, there are others like you. I am throwing that stuff out when I get to church! This reaction that I have had looks like a drug reaction! I am appalled an " artificial sweetener " did this to me. Twelve hours after treatment my eyes are no longer swollen and my face is no longer red, but my neck welt is the same size, same redness and as tender as a sunburn. There are a few blisters in the welt. Even after treatment it still looks this bad! Perhaps the manufacturer of Splenda can sell it as a biochemical warfare agent after it is removed from the market as a food additive. Thanks for getting the word out! ------------------------------ So, my unsolicited advice would be to switch to Stevia exclusively. (If blood sugar is not a huge problem, raw local honey is also good for applications where Stevia doesn't work so well. Honey does indeed have sugars in them, but if you get the natural raw honey from a health food store or a local farmer's market, it's not refined sugar, the sugars are natural with some natural buffers in them so that the sugars aren't quite so toxic to the body as refined sugar is.) Just my thoughts, --Jeni-Laura Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2004 Report Share Posted October 11, 2004 Actually, I think the different stevia brands taste different to different people. I use a brand called Herbal Authority Stevia Liquid Extract and I don't taste any aftertaste with it at all. I use it sparingly, though....a large glass of lukewarm water with the juice of one lemon only gets 2-3 drops. I would try different brands and see if there's not one that works for you. Sharyn supervixen08 [supervixen08] Stevia is WONDERFUL. It has a little bit of an aftertaste, especially when applied too liberally, but with a little getting used to, it's a God-send. It is absolutely harmless, even in large amounts, and causes NO cravings. It's safe for everyone, including diabetics. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.775 / Virus Database: 522 - Release 10/8/2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2004 Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 Also use Xylitol as a sweetener. herbal remedies , " supervixen08 " <supervixen08> wrote: > > > herbal remedies , " S.G.B. " <Babylon@o...> wrote: > BTW, I use stevia for my > > main sweetening agent and a little splenda. > > Howdy, > > Stevia is WONDERFUL. It has a little bit of an aftertaste, especially > when applied too liberally, but with a little getting used to, it's a > God-send. It is absolutely harmless, even in large amounts, and causes > NO cravings. It's safe for everyone, including diabetics. > > NOW....about the Splenda. Please visit > http://www.mercola.com/fcgi/pf/2004/mar/31/splenda_reaction.htm > > Splenda, to my understanding, can be as bad (or at least almost as > bad) as aspartame. It was approved in much the same way as aspartame > was, in regard to the lack of objective, reliable scientific tests. > The tests are at best questionable, and at worst, partially > fabricated. Some of the symptoms ppl experience after using Splenda > are pretty nasty. > > Taken directly from the above-mentioned site: > - - > If you are using Splenda (the brand name for sucralose) because you > think it is a safe alternative to sugar or other artificial > sweeteners, then you may be in for a surprise. Splenda is not healthy > and it can cause many problems in the body. > > Over three years ago I posted an article describing the dangers of > Splenda, and, fortunately, it appears that more and more people are > finally realizing the hazards that this " healthy " sweetener poses. > There is still a long way to go toward educating the public about the > health complications this sweetener is capable of causing, however. > > Splenda is far from healthy and I do not recommend using it in any > form. Why not use Splenda? Well, research in animals has shown that > sucralose can cause many problems such as: > > * Shrunken thymus glands (up to 40 percent shrinkage) > * Enlarged liver and kidneys > * Atrophy of lymph follicles in the spleen and thymus > * Increased cecal weight > * Reduced growth rate > * Decreased red blood cell count > * Hyperplasia of the pelvis > * Extension of the pregnancy period > * Aborted pregnancy > * Decreased fetal body weights and placental weights > * Diarrhea > > But perhaps the most revealing and powerful way to learn the dangerous > truth about Splenda is to read someone's personal experience with it. > > Nearly every month we receive a report from someone who has had an > adverse reaction to Splenda, and after you read through the story > below you can read the many others posted on our site. > > The following story provides a revealing testimony to the dramatic > effects Splenda can have on an otherwise healthy person. > > Contributed by Lori Hunt, RPh > Pickens, SC > > Dear Dr. Mercola, > > I want to thank you for your Web site and especially for your > documentation on the dangers of Splenda. I also want to pass on this > testimonial in the hope it may help others. > > Last evening after dinner I began to feel flush. My husband commented > how red my face was getting and, sure enough, one glance in the mirror > confirmed a bright red, tight, shiny visage staring back at me. In the > next few hours my eyes began to swell. I went to bed hoping I could > " sleep it off. " How wrong I was. > > This morning I got up and my face was still red, bright and swollen > with puffy eyes. I am a pharmacist and I have seen many anaphylactoid > (allergic) reactions before. I began to feel concerned that I too was > having one. I have had only one other reaction like this before in my > life--to Bactrim. > > I went out for my usual morning run but by the first quarter mile I > could barely breathe so I walked slowly back to the house. My right > shoulder was burning so I went to the mirror and was horrified to find > a HUGE 6 inch by 3 inch welt at the base of my neck (see photo). > > I also felt very panicky and shaky and immediately had two bouts of > diarrhea in rapid succession. After 15 minutes and a cool shower on > tissue that looked scalded, I was having difficulty breathing. I was > seen in the local emergency room where the physician immediately gave > me a dexamethasone injection in the hip and a prescription for Epi- pen > and oral prednisone over four days. > > At the time I didn't know why I looked like I had ingested a sulfa > drug. My husband and I tried to figure out what was different in my > life over the last 12 hours. Laundry soap? Nope. Cake? Animal dander? > No and no. A dear friend came to visit me in my misery and mentioned > that I had started to flush at church, several hours before dinner. > > I remembered that I had had a cup of coffee and had tried the new > creamer sitting by the pot. I remembered the Splenda label on it, > which prompted my husband and I to search the Web and we found your site. > > The description by Marcia in the testimonial area caused me to burst > into tears. Yes, Marcia, there are others like you. I am throwing that > stuff out when I get to church! This reaction that I have had looks > like a drug reaction! I am appalled an " artificial sweetener " did this > to me. > > Twelve hours after treatment my eyes are no longer swollen and my face > is no longer red, but my neck welt is the same size, same redness and > as tender as a sunburn. There are a few blisters in the welt. Even > after treatment it still looks this bad! Perhaps the manufacturer of > Splenda can sell it as a biochemical warfare agent after it is removed > from the market as a food additive. > > Thanks for getting the word out! > > ------------------------------ > > So, my unsolicited advice would be to switch to Stevia > exclusively. (If blood sugar is not a huge problem, raw local honey is > also good for applications where Stevia doesn't work so well. Honey > does indeed have sugars in them, but if you get the natural raw honey > from a health food store or a local farmer's market, it's not refined > sugar, the sugars are natural with some natural buffers in them so > that the sugars aren't quite so toxic to the body as refined sugar is.) > > Just my thoughts, > --Jeni-Laura Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2004 Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 Hi Sharyn Yeah, I did notice a big difference between different forms of Stevia. I found the liquid kind to have a lot less of an aftertaste than the powdered kind in the little packets. The packets of Stevia I got had maltodextrin in them for crystallizing purposes, I'm assuming, and I reckon that contributed to the weird aftertaste. But yeah, a lot of Stevia's taste depends largely on the form and manufacturer. Blessings, --Jen herbal remedies , " Sharyn Cerniglia " <sharyn.cerniglia@v...> wrote: > > Actually, I think the different stevia brands taste different to different > people. I use a brand called Herbal Authority Stevia Liquid Extract and I > don't taste any aftertaste with it at all. I use it sparingly, though....a > large glass of lukewarm water with the juice of one lemon only gets 2-3 > drops. > > I would try different brands and see if there's not one that works for you. > > Sharyn > > > supervixen08 [supervixen08] > > Stevia is WONDERFUL. It has a little bit of an aftertaste, especially when > applied too liberally, but with a little getting used to, it's a God-send. > It is absolutely harmless, even in large amounts, and causes NO cravings. > It's safe for everyone, including diabetics. > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.775 / Virus Database: 522 - Release 10/8/2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2004 Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 Well, I knew it was too good to be true...guess that's another one off the list. Ok, I am afraid to ask about saccharine... <grin> I 'do' have blood sugar issues and so I think it's best for me to stick with stevia. Today (2nd day off aspartame) I have no headache, but still have terrible cravings for the stuff. I will continue with cutting aspartame products out of my life (and the family's following...yay!) then, will cut splenda, etc... I don't know if it would be easier to cut all of them at once, or do one at a time. Stevie On 11 Oct 2004 at 20:49, supervixen08 wrote: > Stevia is WONDERFUL. It has a little bit of an aftertaste, especially > when applied too liberally, but with a little getting used to, it's a > God-send. It is absolutely harmless, even in large amounts, and causes > NO cravings. It's safe for everyone, including diabetics. > > NOW....about the Splenda. Please visit > http://www.mercola.com/fcgi/pf/2004/mar/31/splenda_reaction.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2004 Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 I use stevia from the Amazon Herb Company and there is not an after taste either. It is in liquid form. Diana In herbal remedies , " Sharyn Cerniglia " <sharyn.cerniglia@v...> wrote: > > Actually, I think the different stevia brands taste different to different > people. I use a brand called Herbal Authority Stevia Liquid Extract and I > don't taste any aftertaste with it at all. I use it sparingly, though....a > large glass of lukewarm water with the juice of one lemon only gets 2-3 > drops. > > I would try different brands and see if there's not one that works for you. > > Sharyn > > > supervixen08 [supervixen08] > > Stevia is WONDERFUL. It has a little bit of an aftertaste, especially when > applied too liberally, but with a little getting used to, it's a God-send. > It is absolutely harmless, even in large amounts, and causes NO cravings. > It's safe for everyone, including diabetics. > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.775 / Virus Database: 522 - Release 10/8/2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2004 Report Share Posted October 13, 2004 Hi Stevie herbal remedies , " S.G.B. " <Babylon@o...> wrote: > > Well, I knew it was too good to be true...guess that's another one off > the list. Ok, I am afraid to ask about saccharine... <grin> Saccharine is an interesting case because according to my research (the book " Sweet Poison " and other sources) there were like 6 serious FDA complaints against saccharine, whereas there were about 10,000 serious FDA complains about aspartame. If my facts are messed up, someone plz correct me... But it seems sort of amazing to me how powerful of some specific entities are in influencing what we know and do. (Another Mercola link for those who are interestd: http://www.mercola.com/2001/aug/15/perception.htm) VERY INTERESTING READ! I 'do' have > blood sugar issues and so I think it's best for me to stick with stevia. Good for you! Smart idea > > Today (2nd day off aspartame) I have no headache, but still have > terrible cravings for the stuff. I will continue with cutting aspartame > products out of my life (and the family's following...yay!) then, will cut > splenda, etc... I don't know if it would be easier to cut all of them at > once, or do one at a time. I would personally do it all at once. They're all toxic, and they'll create imbalances in your body. Imbalances lead to cravings, especially for things that will imbalance you further. So ironically, it might be EASIER for you if you cut it all off at once. It also helps if you generally eat yin-yang neutral foods like WHOLE grains and (lightly steamed or raw, and never microwaved) veggies. Go easy on the meats and strong sweet fruits, as they are more yang and more yin respectively, and you want to balance between the two. (Ever notice that many ppl who frequently eat lots of red meat are either alcoholics, chocoholics, sugarholics or more than one of the above?? Read meat is WAY yang and chocolate, sugar, and alcohol are WAY yin, and they're forever yo-yoing, trying to balance but because they're so far from center, all they do is end up swinging. By the time they reach equilibrium, they've ingested so much of the very-yang and very-yin that it causes problems for their bodies.) Good for you, Stevie, in taking charge and improving your life! It's hard at first because sweet stuff is so much fun, but it's WORTH it in the end! Godspeed, --Jen PS: It gets better. The cravings eventually go away as your body detoxes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2004 Report Share Posted October 14, 2004 Thanks Jen! I do feel better and it's only be a few days. Man, that stuff is insidious...it's in everything it seems. Stevie > Hi Stevie > Good for you, Stevie, in taking charge and improving your life! It's > hard at first because sweet stuff is so much fun, but it's WORTH it in > the end! > > Godspeed, > --Jen > > PS: It gets better. The cravings eventually go away as your body > detoxes. > > > Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: > 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. > 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. > 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and to > prescribe for your own health. > We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as > they behave themselves. > Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person > following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. > It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to > be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. > > Dr. Ian Shillington > Doctor of Naturopathy > Dr.IanShillington > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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