Guest guest Posted September 29, 2004 Report Share Posted September 29, 2004 James, Kim and everyone else with muscle pain. What those knots are are Myofascial Trigger Points. The contraction knot is the result of an injury, poor posture, a blow to the body, a fall or near fall, structural imbalances and a lot of other things. It is very common to get trigger points and I have yet to find a human with NO trigger points, even children. many times they are laid down in falls as rough and tumble children and they generally will stay for life. They will revert to a latent state and not cause pain unless they are compressed (pushes on) but they can be activated by another injury or over use, or stress etc and become painful again. The pain from trigger points is very often referred to another area of the body (about 75% of the time) so it is difficult for the person to find which knot is causing the problem. This is true also for the massage therapist with a bit on education about trigger points. My training was a a year long and we spent all of it going through the medical text written by Drs David Simons and Janet Travell. I also do massage but it was not part of my schooling and I learned it afterward. If you are lucky enough to find a Myofascial Trigger Point Therapist or Myotherapist in your area, go to that person for the best and fastest relief from trigger points. The next best in someone who is a massage therapist trained in Neuromuscular therapy. They have had training in specific ways to reduce and eliminate trigger points from a massage point of view. If nothing else find a book called The Trigger Point Therapy Workbook by Clair Davies. It is a self help book that shows the pain patterns and where the trigger points are. It is easy to read and understand. The author is incorrect when he says that you do not need to stretch and he does not give stretches for the muscles treated. He does a great job at helping someone to treat themselves, but misses a very important part of the therapy and long term relief. Some Chiropractors claim to do Trigger point therapy and in my experience, they have no idea what they are doing and do nothing more than aggravate the trigger points. Often chiropractic adjustments are very much needed and the combination of trigger point therapy and chiropractic is very good. The trigger points will not relax with medications or arnica, the arnica may help, but it is for different reasons. The physical knot is a contraction knot, it is self sustaining and you can not relax it away. Direct sustained pressure, not rubbing around in circles or kneading, and then carefully stretching the muscle involved is what will do the trick. Also a needle with a numbing agent, a dry needle, or an accupunture needle directly into the trigger point will release it also, one needs to find a properly trained MD or acupuncturist for this type of treatment and it is much more painful than the hands on therapy. A tennis ball is a good substitute for the therapists hands once you understand where to go and what to do. Another good book (that is what got me started) is Bonnie Prudden's Pain Erasure. it is a bit harder to grasp, but she is all into the stretches and strengthening. Yep, I do this for a living, but my goal here is to help more people understand what the majority of muscle pain is caused by! Yep, most dull aching pain, headaches, migraines, back pain, arm and hand pain, repetitive stress injuries, chronic pain etc etc etc is caused by these dysfunctional spots in the muscles. All muscles of the body can have them and each causes a distinct pain pattern. The nerves can be entrapped by the tight muscles caused by the trigger point and cause " nerve pain " such as sciatica and carpal tunnel and thoracic outlet syndrome. Most tension headaches are from trigger points in the shoulders and neck. This is a very good thing for everybody to know and understand. You can treat yourself relatively well with a little education, and if you can find someone trained in it, you can often get extremely effective results, even for long term problems. If anyone wants more info on the subject, you might " Google " for myofascial trigger points or send me a note with trigger point therapy in the subject. I can not always read this list, so you will get to me faster if you email me directly. Mary Jo On Sep 28, 2004, at 11:44 AM, herbal remedies wrote: > Kim, > > Have you seen a good chiroprator and a massage therapist. Your pain > is connected but not in the way that allopatic medicine is willing to > admit. I have similar problems. One is with a condition that is > called entrapped nerves. When the smooth muscles of the back are > injured, they compress into a tight knot. As this knot becomes > harder and deeper, it starts to pull the rest of the muscles, nerves > and spine out of place. To test this on yourself, you or your > significant other rub your back and see if there are any spots that > are painful when pressed. If so, you have found your knot. > > In order for you to heal, you need to find a way to relax the muscles > that are knotted. Anrinca may help, but since it has been at least > one year since your injury, I doubt that it will do much. > > I have also had some help from accupuncture. It is really very good > at releasing knotted muscles. However, accupuncture is much better > when used in combination with massage and chiropractic adjustments. > > James Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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