Natural Remedies for Cancer

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I would like to know where you all would turn or send some friend or family member seeking natural healing for cancer.

 

Definitely not the traditional medical route. I'd clean up my diet (and body) totally and start on the Save Your Life program with a few additions of some vitamins. And I'd get all the herbs to make up my own Hoxsey formula. Also get more into visualization. This is an interesting question, because, when the chips are down, even the some of the most "alternative method proponents" often run to a Dr. and head right into chemo. I've seen them do it.

 

Gloria

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Hey All...

 

Since beginning my natural remedy journey I have been able to help some and others really challenge my cautions against medical docs.

 

My most common question is "would you see a doctor if you have cancer"? My answer "absolutely no!" And I continue, especially for cancer I would not seek conventional treatment. I read about Lorraine Day and her natural remedies for cancer and other illness. And other claims to cancer cures as well, Dr. Clark for one. I would like to know where you all would turn or send some friend or family member seeking natural healing for cancer.

 

Thanks...Have a very good evening!

Sharon

Kelli Bever <kelli wrote:

 

Hi Gloria,

 

I use the "CalMag Plus" product from Natural Vitality (http://www.vites.com/home.shtml). I've even used this with my daughter since she was quite young, although be careful about dosage - too much of this stuff can lead to loose bowels! (It can relax everything! LOL!) Whenever I get tight muscles or have trouble sleeping, I have a cup of this for a night or two and I'm good as gold!

 

Best,

Kelli

 

 

 

MorningGlory113 [MorningGlory113] Tuesday, September 28, 2004 1:35 PMherbal remedies Subject: Re: Herbal Remedies - Sleep problem/Kelli

 

Cal Mag which I get as a powder to mix with hot water and drink as a kind of teaFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves.

Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

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I would use two feathers. I know an ND who used it when she had breast cancer and it worked. I would go to her, have essiac tea, and use the two feathers.

No other options. I would also send my family to her. Because it works and is safe. and I am sure it would work.

 

Flo

 

-Sharon asked I would like to know where you all would turn or send some friend or family member seeking natural healing for cancer.

 

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Hi. My son was diagnosed with a rare leukemia. I have combined natural and medical treatments. My philosophy has been to try anything that my friends suggested that would not harm my son. My first step was to find a naturalist to get my son on the right herbs and vitamins that would complement the medical program. Next I started to read anything about his diagnosis ,than to gather info about the natural side of healing. You have to make alot of decisions quickly ,so you need to pray for knowledge and work with all the recourses you have. NancyFlo <fgarig wrote:

 

I would use two feathers. I know an ND who used it when she had breast cancer and it worked. I would go to her, have essiac tea, and use the two feathers.

No other options. I would also send my family to her. Because it works and is safe. and I am sure it would work.

 

Flo

 

-Sharon asked I would like to know where you all would turn or send some friend or family member seeking natural healing for cancer.

Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

 

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You should also do some research on Kombucha Tea. It has cured people of cancer.Nancy Adams <eriewindrider wrote:

 

Hi. My son was diagnosed with a rare leukemia. I have combined natural and medical treatments. My philosophy has been to try anything that my friends suggested that would not harm my son. My first step was to find a naturalist to get my son on the right herbs and vitamins that would complement the medical program. Next I started to read anything about his diagnosis ,than to gather info about the natural side of healing. You have to make alot of decisions quickly ,so you need to pray for knowledge and work with all the recourses you have. NancyFlo <fgarig wrote:

I would use two feathers. I know an ND who used it when she had breast cancer and it worked. I would go to her, have essiac tea, and use the two feathers.

No other options. I would also send my family to her. Because it works and is safe. and I am sure it would work.

 

Flo

 

-Sharon asked I would like to know where you all would turn or send some friend or family member seeking natural healing for cancer.

Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

 

 

 

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Hello Gloria and All...

 

I believe you are so right when you say we need to be prepared ahead of time knowing the details of different remedies for cancer and other illnesses. Waiting til the last minute is not the best idea because when under the pressure having no natural way may cause one to turn to conventional medicine because of the pressures around us.

 

I have asked this question sever times in the last few days and have received some very good information. One point to take into consideration is to think about finding folks that are able to walk through a given narural remedy treatment with, because one having a disease would be better able to follow the whole plan if help is near. And experience and encouragment is very important and the journey back to health is best when traveled with others who know the route.

 

Personally I think I would go to Hallelujah Acres. Their track record is good and I believe they would love me through.

 

Any other places to get help in time of critical illness?

 

Thanks for thinking!!!

Sharon

Student, The Natural School of Healing

Definitely not the traditional medical route. I'd clean up my diet (and body) totally and start on the Save Your Life program with a few additions of some vitamins. And I'd get all the herbs to make up my own Hoxsey formula. Also get more into visualization. This is an interesting question, because, when the chips are down, even the some of the most "alternative method proponents" often run to a Dr. and head right into chemo. I've seen them do it.Gloria

 

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I have made Kombucha Tea in the past and am searching for a baby now. I might consider drinking Kombucha Tea as I do another complete therapy but would not consider the tea alone. And I would be sure to discuss the consumption of the tea with my helpers.

Thanks..

SharonYou should also do some research on Kombucha Tea. It has cured people of cancer.

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Nancy, that is good thinking. Please keep us updated.

 

Nancy wrote:

 

Hi. My son was diagnosed with a rare leukemia. I have combined natural and medical treatments. My philosophy has been to try anything that my friends suggested that would not harm my son.

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Dear Sharon,

My advise would be to give to your friend Doc's phone number. It is great place to start, he has program for Incurable deceases. Good Luck

JasminaMichelle Lee <mickey16927 wrote:

 

You should also do some research on Kombucha Tea. It has cured people of cancer.Nancy Adams <eriewindrider wrote:

Hi. My son was diagnosed with a rare leukemia. I have combined natural and medical treatments. My philosophy has been to try anything that my friends suggested that would not harm my son. My first step was to find a naturalist to get my son on the right herbs and vitamins that would complement the medical program. Next I started to read anything about his diagnosis ,than to gather info about the natural side of healing. You have to make alot of decisions quickly ,so you need to pray for knowledge and work with all the recourses you have. NancyFlo <fgarig wrote:

I would use two feathers. I know an ND who used it when she had breast cancer and it worked. I would go to her, have essiac tea, and use the two feathers.

No other options. I would also send my family to her. Because it works and is safe. and I am sure it would work.

 

Flo

 

-Sharon asked I would like to know where you all would turn or send some friend or family member seeking natural healing for cancer.

Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

 

 

 

vote. - Register online to vote today! Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of

NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

 

 

Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of

any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

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Yes and the incurables program is great. I would suggest that program is there is someone in the area to help follow the program, especially for what may be considered and incurable dis-ease. In our area there is no-one right now.

Thanks..

SharonJasmina Alisic <jalisic579 wrote:

 

 

Dear Sharon,

My advise would be to give to your friend Doc's phone number. It is great place to start, he has program for Incurable deceases. Good Luck

Jasmina

[Guest guest]

I have a baby to offer.Mark Cole <me_c wrote:

 

I have made Kombucha Tea in the past and am searching for a baby now. I might consider drinking Kombucha Tea as I do another complete therapy but would not consider the tea alone. And I would be sure to discuss the consumption of the tea with my helpers.

Thanks..

SharonYou should also do some research on Kombucha Tea. It has cured people of cancer.Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of

NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

 

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What area are you in Sharon?

 

Kelli

 

 

 

Mark Cole [me_c] Wednesday, September 29, 2004 12:09 PMherbal remedies Subject: Re: Herbal Remedies - Natural Remedies for Cancer

 

Yes and the incurables program is great. I would suggest that program is there is someone in the area to help follow the program, especially for what may be considered and incurable dis-ease. In our area there is no-one right now.

Thanks..

Sharon

[Guest guest]

Way north coast California. We have one naturopath and she is not in family practice. She does not work with folks that need help with specific health issures. It is not clear to me just what she does. I can find no master herbalists either but many that dabble in herbs. There are 2 md docs that have knowledge of natural remedies but they take no new patients. We are quite isolated from big cities.

 

I am hoping, once I have master herblist training from The School of Natural Healing to help folks here.

 

Thanks..SharonKelli Bever <kelli wrote:

 

What area are you in Sharon?

 

Kelli

 

[Guest guest]

Hi Nancy, I'm very sorry to hear about your son. I do hope you've given Doc a call. He's definitely one of the first people I'd want to talk to, along with all my other research, if I were in your position.

 

My best wishes for you and your son.

 

Kelli

 

 

 

Nancy Adams [eriewindrider] Wednesday, September 29, 2004 5:41 AMherbal remedies Subject: Re: Herbal Remedies - Natural Remedies for Cancer

 

Hi. My son was diagnosed with a rare leukemia.

[Guest guest]

Hi Sharon,

 

I'm also in Calif (San Jose area) and my husband did Doc's incurables program. He didn't work with anyone locally (just consulted with Doc periodically). Anyway, my point is that the instructions are very easy to follow and help is but a phone call away. I don't recall what health issue needs to be addressed, but you might want to consider this option.

Best,

Kelli

 

 

 

Mark Cole [me_c] Wednesday, September 29, 2004 1:28 PMherbal remedies Subject: RE: Herbal Remedies - Natural Remedies for Cancer

 

Way north coast California.

[Guest guest]

Thanks Kelli, no health issues right now but wanting to know options just in case we are any others need natural healing.

 

Did Doc's incurables program work for your hubby?

 

Sharon

Kelli Bever <kelli wrote:

 

Hi Sharon,

 

I'm also in Calif (San Jose area) and my husband did Doc's incurables program. He didn't work with anyone locally (just consulted with Doc periodically). Anyway, my point is that the instructions are very easy to follow and help is but a phone call away. I don't recall what health issue needs to be addressed, but you might want to consider this option.

Best,

Kelli

[Guest guest]

Hi Sharon, Good to hear that you have no health issues! My husband got great results with the incurables program, although he wasn't using it for a life threatening situation, fortunately! LOL!

 

Best,

Kelli

 

 

 

Mark Cole [me_c] Wednesday, September 29, 2004 3:45 PMherbal remedies Subject: RE: Herbal Remedies - Natural Remedies for Cancer

 

Thanks Kelli, no health issues right now but wanting to know options just in case we are any others need natural healing.

 

Did Doc's incurables program work for your hubby?

 

Sharon

[Guest guest]

Ok... You asked...

 

 

For use on Cancer and other diseases:

 

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The studies in Japan showed Agaricus Blazei to be 80% more

effective than the world's number one cancer drug, PSK. It

contains much higher levels of beta glucans than the other medicinal mushrooms

(Maitake, Shiitake, and Reishi). It stimulates NK (Natural Killer) cell activity at a rate

higher than MGN-3.

Doctors also recommend the strengthening of the immune systems of cancer patients.

While receiving treatment, in terms of improving a patient's diet, a larger than regular

dosage of Agaricus is recommended.

 

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Background: At present, three types of anti-cancer drugs produced from mushrooms are used in immunotherapy, one of the therapies used to help eliminate cancer. Immunotherapy is intended to fight against cancer by strengthening the immune system. While such research involving mushrooms and immunity is presently in progress, the Brazilian agaricus mushroom in South America has been gaining much attention.

 

In 1965, Professor Sinden at Pennsylvania State University and Dr. Lambert of the Lambert Research Laboratory discovered the value of the ingredients in agaricus. In Japan, the Japanese Cancer Association in 1980 presented the immune-enhancing properties of agaricus. Thereafter, the Japanese Cancer Association, Japan Society for Agricultural Chemistry, the Japanese Pharmacological Society, the Food Science Engineering Society of Japan, and representatives of various other fields highlighted the role of agaricus in helping to strengthen the immune system. What resulted was the confirmation by researchers at such institutions as the University of Tokyo Medical Department, the National Cancer Research Center, and the Tokyo College

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Ok... You asked...

 

 

For use on Cancer and other diseases:

 

Agaricus Blazei - Immune Stimulant

The studies in Japan showed Agaricus Blazei to be 80% more

effective than the world's number one cancer drug, PSK. It

contains much higher levels of beta glucans than the other medicinal mushrooms

(Maitake, Shiitake, and Reishi). It stimulates NK (Natural Killer) cell activity at a rate

higher than MGN-3.

Doctors also recommend the strengthening of the immune systems of cancer patients.

While receiving treatment, in terms of improving a patient's diet, a larger than regular

dosage of Agaricus is recommended.

 

1-Anti-tumor effect: Polysaccharides including beta and protein glucan decrease and control cancerous cell proliferation.2- Cancer inhibition effect: Steroids, nucleic acids, lipids and lectin restrain cancerous cell multiplication.3- Anti-cancer and metastasis inhibition effect: Agaricus blazei prevents normal cells from becoming cancerous cells. The mushroom shows a remarkable cancer prevention rate of 99.4%.4- Reducing blood sugar: The mushroom is effective in fighting diabetes.5- Controlling blood pressure: It lowers cholesterol level and eases arteriosclerosis.

 

Background: At present, three types of anti-cancer drugs produced from mushrooms are used in immunotherapy, one of the therapies used to help eliminate cancer. Immunotherapy is intended to fight against cancer by strengthening the immune system. While such research involving mushrooms and immunity is presently in progress, the Brazilian agaricus mushroom in South America has been gaining much attention.

 

In 1965, Professor Sinden at Pennsylvania State University and Dr. Lambert of the Lambert Research Laboratory discovered the value of the ingredients in agaricus. In Japan, the Japanese Cancer Association in 1980 presented the immune-enhancing properties of agaricus. Thereafter, the Japanese Cancer Association, Japan Society for Agricultural Chemistry, the Japanese Pharmacological Society, the Food Science Engineering Society of Japan, and representatives of various other fields highlighted the role of agaricus in helping to strengthen the immune system. What resulted was the confirmation by researchers at such institutions as the University of Tokyo Medical Department, the National Cancer Research Center, and the Tokyo College

of Pharmacy of the immune-correcting effectiveness of agaricus having four times that of Reishi, a popular mushroom long used for aiding immunity boost.

 

Thus, promoting the activation of the immune system is not only to prevent the invasion of viruses and foreign matters into the body but also to actively protect one’s individual health for the long term.

 

In order to live a long and healthy life amid an ever-changing environment, Noevir introduces a new nutritional supplement product, Agaricus Blazei , whose extract is derived from the agaricus mushroom known for its ability to help correct the functions of the immune system.

 

 

[Guest guest]

I have read all the responses. Let me say what I say to all of my

clients, THERE IS NO CURE FOR CANCER.

 

There is nothing that you can take that will destroy the cancer

cells directly. There is however many supplements that will help

the immune system respond and destroy the cancer. One thing about

using natural products to help the body, they will not work if chemo

is used.

 

If you are doing research I suggest you look at the following:

 

Red Clover for solid tumors

IP-6

Maitake Mushrooms

Arabinogalactan

AHCC

Zinc

Vitamin C

CoQ10

DIM

Nettles

Chamomile

Chyrsin

 

Another important aspect of cancer is the control of the hormone

estrogen. All cancer is dependant upon estrogen in the

proliferation stage. Controlling estrogens may mean the difference

between life and death.

 

James

[Guest guest]

Thanks for information. May I ask what kind of practice you have? And what is best procedure for controling estrogen? If you had cancer or clients with cancer do you suggest they stay home to fight the cancer?

Sharonbigmuddie2001 <bigmuddie2001 wrote:

I have read all the responses. Let me say what I say to all of my clients, THERE IS NO CURE FOR CANCER.There is nothing that you can take that will destroy the cancer cells directly. There is however many supplements that will help the immune system respond and destroy the cancer. One thing about using natural products to help the body, they will not work if chemo is used.If you are doing research I suggest you look at the following:Red Clover for solid tumorsIP-6Maitake MushroomsArabinogalactanAHCCZincVitamin CCoQ10DIMNettlesChamomileChyrsinAnother important aspect of cancer is the control of the hormone estrogen. All cancer is dependant upon estrogen in the proliferation stage. Controlling estrogens may mean the difference between life and

death.James

[Guest guest]

Dear Sharon,

 

I am just recently back on list (away with hurricane and ISP problems :-), but if I may add to your thread here, I would say that Cancer can be "Beaten" but one must handle the "mental" aspects of it if one is to win this fight.

 

In every single cancer case I've ever had on my lines (and I've had plenty) there has always been some kind of Familial or Sexual upset involved. There has been the loss of a child, the loss of a loved one, the loss of a parent or husband, or sexual abuse, or inhibited or enforced sexual contact, or some other form of familial or sexual upset. This is not an example of an isolated incident or two. I have found this to be the case 100% of the time in dozens of cancer cases I've personally observed or handled. I think I can safely say there are no exceptions under any circumstances.

 

Until these familial / sexual upset type, mental issues are dealt with, handling cancer with herbs or any other practice is a Turkey Shoot. You might win, but you will just as easily and probably will lose. Even if you should win using any protocol, there is a better than even chance it'll come back within a couple of years if you don't handle the mental aspects of it. And this is not something you can just approach in a slip shod way. If you don't get intense about it, if you don't throw yourself wholeheartedly into it, you may not achieve your cure.

 

Many have made the grade and found their cure. Many have not. The ones who truly wanted to survive and were truly brave enough to face their own personal demons were the ones who found a permanent cure. Doc Christopher was one such person.

 

In the very near future I'll be writing an article on this "An Open Letter to a Dying Cancer Patient" and I'll post it to the list. It will include Doc Christopher's Success Story in it.

 

If you are the one who has Cancer rather than writing for someone else, you are always welcome to contact me off list and I am always willing to help those who are willing to be responsible and help themselves.

 

Much love,

 

Doc

 

Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.727-447-5282Doc

 

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Mark Cole

herbal remedies

Thursday, September 30, 2004 7:00 PM

Re: Herbal Remedies - Re: Natural Remedies for Cancer

 

Thanks for information. May I ask what kind of practice you have? And what is best procedure for controling estrogen? If you had cancer or clients with cancer do you suggest they stay home to fight the cancer?

Sharonbigmuddie2001 <bigmuddie2001 wrote:

I have read all the responses. Let me say what I say to all of my clients, THERE IS NO CURE FOR CANCER.There is nothing that you can take that will destroy the cancer cells directly. . .

[Guest guest]

Doc,

 

Thank you so much for the information. And it is good to have you safe and sound and back to the list!

 

I don't have cancer and am not inquiring for anyone specific. What happened is this, I went to a wedding last weekend. The folks there know I am a student at The Natural School of Healing. So, they began to ask me questions. I answered, having studied much of what they were asking in the last few weeks and let them know that I would research what I could not help with and let them know later. Finally one irritated lady asked me if I would seek conventional medical help if I had cancer. My answer was "especially if I had cancer I would not seek conventional medicine." There was a BIG silence. But, the thing is this line of questioning started me thinking. What would I do if I got cancer or if a dear friend or family member did. So, I started asking this question where I thought I would get educated replies. I now have lots of information. And several folks have said they

were made to think as well.

 

Doc, thank you so much for being willing to help! You are a treasure to this list and to many others I am sure.

 

Thankfully,

Sharon

"Dr. Ian Shillington" <DocShillington wrote:

 

Dear Sharon,

 

I am just recently back on list (away with hurricane and ISP problems :-), but if I may add to your thread here, I would say that Cancer can be "Beaten" but one must handle the "mental" aspects of it if one is to win this fight.

 

In every single cancer case I've ever had on my lines (and I've had plenty) there has always been some kind of Familial or Sexual upset involved. There has been the loss of a child, the loss of a loved one, the loss of a parent or husband, or sexual abuse, or inhibited or enforced sexual contact, or some other form of familial or sexual upset. This is not an example of an isolated incident or two. I have found this to be the case 100% of the time in dozens of cancer cases I've personally observed or handled. I think I can safely say there are no exceptions under any circumstances.

 

Until these familial / sexual upset type, mental issues are dealt with, handling cancer with herbs or any other practice is a Turkey Shoot. You might win, but you will just as easily and probably will lose. Even if you should win using any protocol, there is a better than even chance it'll come back within a couple of years if you don't handle the mental aspects of it. And this is not something you can just approach in a slip shod way. If you don't get intense about it, if you don't throw yourself wholeheartedly into it, you may not achieve your cure.

 

Many have made the grade and found their cure. Many have not. The ones who truly wanted to survive and were truly brave enough to face their own personal demons were the ones who found a permanent cure. Doc Christopher was one such person.

 

In the very near future I'll be writing an article on this "An Open Letter to a Dying Cancer Patient" and I'll post it to the list. It will include Doc Christopher's Success Story in it.

 

If you are the one who has Cancer rather than writing for someone else, you are always welcome to contact me off list and I am always willing to help those who are willing to be responsible and help themselves.

 

Much love,

 

Doc

 

[Guest guest]

As a corrollary to what Doc said, it is my firm belief that cancer is repressed negative emotion run amok. So first I would embark on a total body cleanse and at the same time I would start doing anything I could to feel good every second of every day. I would never, under any circumstance, seek conventional medical help.

 

Sharyn

 

 

Mark Cole [me_c]

 

My answer was "especially if I had cancer I would not seek conventional medicine." There was a BIG silence. But, the thing is this line of questioning started me thinking. What would I do if I got cancer or if a dear friend or family member did.

 

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essiac tea (four common herbs) is a popular remedy. " ... promote health,

strengthen the immune system, improve appetite, relieve pain, improve

overall quality of life and shrink the size of tumors. " quoted from The

University of Texas-Houston. The best site for non-commercial information on

the tea is http://essiac-info.org as well as giving essiac to pets

http://essiac-info.org/Pets/index.html

 

Enjoy Your Health,

 

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Herbalist

 

 

 

 

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Mark Cole <me_c

Re: Re: Natural Remedies for Cancer

 

Thanks for information. May I ask what kind of practice you have? And what

is best procedure for controling estrogen? If you had cancer or clients

with cancer do you suggest they stay home to fight the cancer?

Sharon

 

bigmuddie2001 <bigmuddie2001 wrote:

I have read all the responses. Let me say what I say to all of my

clients, THERE IS NO CURE FOR CANCER.

 

There is nothing that you can take that will destroy the cancer

cells directly. There is however many supplements that will help

the immune system respond and destroy the cancer. One thing about

using natural products to help the body, they will not work if chemo

is used.

 

If you are doing research I suggest you look at the following:

 

Red Clover for solid tumors

IP-6

Maitake Mushrooms

Arabinogalactan

AHCC

Zinc

Vitamin C

CoQ10

DIM

Nettles

Chamomile

Chyrsin

 

Another important aspect of cancer is the control of the hormone

estrogen. All cancer is dependant upon estrogen in the

proliferation stage. Controlling estrogens may mean the difference

between life and death.

 

James

 

 

 

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