Guest guest Posted September 14, 2004 Report Share Posted September 14, 2004 Hi Christy, > I was trying to find a better way to live ect. But I think I'm going to have to find another way. I'm not sure my thinking belongs here. I hope, for your own sake, that you do not stop trying to find a better way. Everyone is trying to find a better way; it's only natural and it's commendable. But it bothers me when you say you'll have to find ANOTHER way. Another way than what? I'm wondering exactly what is it about what board members are saying that is objectionable to you. Please do tell us, even if you email me or any other one of us privately. I'm not quite sure it's objectionable to make it a long-term goal to cut out (or at least cut drastically down on) toxic foods that screw up your brain chemistry (ie sugar/chocolate, etc) and switch to a healthier way of life that will make you feel better. By doing this, you also save a lot of money, time (in doctor's visits and having prescriptions filled), and problems down the road due to numerous side effects. My fiancee's father (who worked for the VA system for years--if there's anything worse than allopathic, it's government-run allopathic!) is on so many drugs that some of his prescriptions exist SOLELY for the purpose of minimizing side effects from his other prescriptions! Meanwhile, he coughs all the time (he doesn't smoke!), he's deaf, he has a surgery practically every other year, he can't breathe, he can't think, man--is this any way to LIVE? Personally, I think it's cruel to allow oneself to slide that far. But the population can't really be blamed, for we've been " educated " (persuaded is more like it) away from natural remedies that were around LONG before the drug- & -cut medical model was, and we've survived this long, haven't we? In fact, we were a lot better off back THEN, even WITHOUT today's technology! Why do we think cancers are on the rise? So's Alzheimers. And others. Most are *chronic*, *degenerative* diseases! Why? Because of the accumulated toxins in the system, without the nutrition necessary to cleanse and give the body the energy it was built for (and needs), and these toxins fester. For decades. I am now a healthcare practitioner, and I see it in my practice daily. The sickest people have been on meds and poor nutrition for the longest time. And they have little willpower left over to change. They don't know how crappy they feel because they don't know anything else. I know that firsthand--I was there! I was only 25. I felt like I was much older. After nine hours of sleep, I snoozed my alarm for ANOTHER 2 hours! When I got up, I felt dizzy and nauseated, and I saw stars. When my fiancee & I would go run errands and we'd browse in a store at the mall, after literally about 5 minutes, I'd have to go sit down and let him finish browsing. I'd have to sit down for 2 minutes for every 1 minute I stood. I had gained 25 pounds in 3 months, and it stayed on (and I was never pregnant.) Funny part was, I accepted this as part of " getting older " ! I was so depressed that Zoloft was starting to not even " help " anymore. My temper was off the charts. The littlest thing would set me off. I had a serious anger and road rage problems. I was always to the brink of losing my cool. Constantly. God Bless my fiancee for sticking by me! I don't know how he did, because he either took or at least witnessed the full brunt of my yelling and complaining about everything. I'm sure it scared him. So when I started to eat better, my body got what it needed, and it was like a wilted plant coming back to life. I got EXCITED! I was like " omigosh, I feel GOOD! " " I've got ENERGY! " or " I actually feel like I aged backwards! " I talked about it for months. I could get UP in the mornings. No more setting my alarm for 11am and hitting the snooze button till 1pm. No more seeing stars when I stood up. And I ran errands with as much stamina as my fiancee did. Food started to taste better. I ate MORE, by about 3 TIMES. Yet, I LOST weight. I lost 30 pounds in 6 months. My face cleared up (I had mild to moderate acne). My heat blisters that came like clockwork in the summer cleared up. And even though I got cold after cold, I didn't feel depressed like colds usually made me feel. I remember saying " I know this sounds odd, but even though I'm sick, I'm....*happy* about it?? " And I still had all the energy. No more having to nap during a cold for me! So....about giving up the unhealthy foods...is it hard? YES. Is it worth it? HELL YES! If I had to do it over again, I would've done it a lot sooner. Trust me, the addiction is tough. Chocolate has a similar molecular structure to AMPHETAMINES. (TELL me that's not addictive!) But you CAN do it. If you need to, wean yourself! I went from dairy to organic soy, which cut down on sugars, because there are lots of sugars in dairy. This means I could shave sugar intake off my milk and ice cream. (There is some debate around soy not being trustworthy because no one can be sure it's organic, but I've had overall good experience with it.) Instead putting sugar on your cereal, get packets of stevia. A Google search'll tell you it's a sweetening herb that adds no sugars, calories, carbs, additives, etc. It's WONDERFUL. I also use raw, organic honey in some tea after my dinner, and it keeps cravings for sweets away. Also, try to eat more whole grains and veggies whenever you feel a craving. A craving for anything indicates you're out of balance. Whole grains and raw or steamed veggies (not canned) will help balance you. You'd be surprised! Instead of eating things with refined sugar in them, switch to things made with cane juice. Yes, it's sugar--but my experience has been that it's not quite so toxic and devoid of substance as refined sugar is, and while refined sugar will flare my temper up (within an hour or two!), the cane juice does not. Try grapes or apples instead of chocolate or candy. You'd be SO surprised. You CAN break the addiction. If you want to be healthy, free, alive, vibrant, happy, peaceful, and independent, there is NO other way. Do I enjoy my chocolate soy ice cream and my organic chocolate M & M substitutes? You bet! But in MODERATION. A little handful a day. I ration myself, and every time I crave those things, I pick up some grapes instead. I never have those things before I've had a good meal or a healthy snack. If I'm still hungry afterwards, I'll have a couple spoonfuls/handfuls (whichever's applicable!) The herb licorice will also satisfy sugar cravings and balance blood sugar. Use caution with uncontrolled high blood pressure, however. But herbal tea with licorice in it is awesome! No sweetener, not even stevia or honey, is needed. I honestly hope to have helped you, and I honestly hope you'll not give up. You're in the right place. All you have to do now is try our suggestions, and have faith in us. Many of us have done wonderful and amazing things for ourselves. Many of us actually know MORE about certain things that regular medical doctors, simply because a lot of the true healing and true health is not taught at med school. > I guess medication/anti-depressants is a better word then drugs. Nope, you were on the right track. Call them what they are, drugs. And I would bet that weed is a hell of a lot healthier--and that stuff is illegal...hmmm... Garlic is real medication. It helps with more problems than any pharmaceutical. In peace and love, --Jen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2004 Report Share Posted September 14, 2004 I just want to thank you for posting your story. I also have a big problem giving up " comfort " foods, and I've always felt that anything less than total commitment was worthless. This attitude has kept me from really doing anything about my health. You have let me know that baby steps are acceptable! -Cheerio, -Shelby supervixen08 [supervixen08] Monday, September 13, 2004 5:33 PM herbal remedies Re: Herbal Remedies - VITAL ...Dear Christy....my story pt 2 & suggestions Hi Christy, > I was trying to find a better way to live ect. But I think I'm going to have to find another way. I'm not sure my thinking belongs here. I hope, for your own sake, that you do not stop trying to find a better way. Everyone is trying to find a better way; it's only natural Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2004 Report Share Posted September 14, 2004 Change is scary. It always will be. Rome wasn't built in a day and neither were my habits. I now if I do to much to soon I will become overwhelmed and unmotivated. So I must go slow. That's just me. ChristyShelby Blakely <sblakely wrote: I just want to thank you for posting your story. I also have a big problemgiving up "comfort" foods, and I've always felt that anything less thantotal commitment was worthless. This attitude has kept me from really doinganything about my health. You have let me know that baby steps areacceptable!-Cheerio,-Shelbysupervixen08 [supervixen08]Monday, September 13, 2004 5:33 PMherbal remedies Subject: Re: Herbal Remedies - VITAL ...Dear Christy....my story pt 2 & suggestions :)Hi Christy,> I was trying to find a better way to live ect. But I think I'm goingto have to find another way. I'm not sure my thinking belongs here.I hope, for your own sake, that you do not stop trying to find abetter way. Everyone is trying to find a better way; it's only naturalFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2004 Report Share Posted September 14, 2004 exactly what i went through huggs deana supervixen08 wrote: > Hi Christy, > > > I was trying to find a better way to live ect. But I think I'm going > to have to find another way. I'm not sure my thinking belongs here. > > I hope, for your own sake, that you do not stop trying to find a > better way. Everyone is trying to find a better way; it's only natural > and it's commendable. But it bothers me when you say you'll have to > find ANOTHER way. Another way than what? I'm wondering exactly what is > it about what board members are saying that is objectionable to you. > Please do tell us, even if you email me or any other one of us > privately. I'm not quite sure it's objectionable to make it a > long-term goal to cut out (or at least cut drastically down on) toxic > foods that screw up your brain chemistry (ie sugar/chocolate, etc) and > switch to a healthier way of life that will make you feel better. By > doing this, you also save a lot of money, time (in doctor's visits and > having prescriptions filled), and problems down the road due to > numerous side effects. My fiancee's father (who worked for the VA > system for years--if there's anything worse than allopathic, it's > government-run allopathic!) is on so many drugs that some of his > prescriptions exist SOLELY for the purpose of minimizing side effects > from his other prescriptions! Meanwhile, he coughs all the time (he > doesn't smoke!), he's deaf, he has a surgery practically every other > year, he can't breathe, he can't think, man--is this any way to LIVE? > Personally, I think it's cruel to allow oneself to slide that far. But > the population can't really be blamed, for we've been " educated " > (persuaded is more like it) away from natural remedies that were > around LONG before the drug- & -cut medical model was, and we've > survived this long, haven't we? In fact, we were a lot better off back > THEN, even WITHOUT today's technology! Why do we think cancers are on > the rise? So's Alzheimers. And others. Most are *chronic*, > *degenerative* diseases! Why? Because of the accumulated toxins in the > system, without the nutrition necessary to cleanse and give the body > the energy it was built for (and needs), and these toxins fester. For > decades. > > I am now a healthcare practitioner, and I see it in my practice daily. > The sickest people have been on meds and poor nutrition for the > longest time. And they have little willpower left over to change. They > don't know how crappy they feel because they don't know anything else. > I know that firsthand--I was there! I was only 25. I felt like I was > much older. After nine hours of sleep, I snoozed my alarm for ANOTHER > 2 hours! When I got up, I felt dizzy and nauseated, and I saw stars. > When my fiancee & I would go run errands and we'd browse in a store at > the mall, after literally about 5 minutes, I'd have to go sit down and > let him finish browsing. I'd have to sit down for 2 minutes for every > 1 minute I stood. I had gained 25 pounds in 3 months, and it stayed on > (and I was never pregnant.) Funny part was, I accepted this as part of > " getting older " ! I was so depressed that Zoloft was starting to not > even " help " anymore. My temper was off the charts. The littlest thing > would set me off. I had a serious anger and road rage problems. I was > always to the brink of losing my cool. Constantly. God Bless my > fiancee for sticking by me! I don't know how he did, because he either > took or at least witnessed the full brunt of my yelling and > complaining about everything. I'm sure it scared him. > > So when I started to eat better, my body got what it needed, and it > was like a wilted plant coming back to life. I got EXCITED! I was like > " omigosh, I feel GOOD! " " I've got ENERGY! " or " I actually feel like I > aged backwards! " I talked about it for months. I could get UP in the > mornings. No more setting my alarm for 11am and hitting the snooze > button till 1pm. No more seeing stars when I stood up. And I ran > errands with as much stamina as my fiancee did. Food started to taste > better. I ate MORE, by about 3 TIMES. Yet, I LOST weight. I lost 30 > pounds in 6 months. My face cleared up (I had mild to moderate acne). > My heat blisters that came like clockwork in the summer cleared up. > And even though I got cold after cold, I didn't feel depressed like > colds usually made me feel. I remember saying " I know this sounds odd, > but even though I'm sick, I'm....*happy* about it?? " And I still had > all the energy. No more having to nap during a cold for me! > > So....about giving up the unhealthy foods...is it hard? YES. Is it > worth it? HELL YES! If I had to do it over again, I would've done it a > lot sooner. Trust me, the addiction is tough. Chocolate has a similar > molecular structure to AMPHETAMINES. (TELL me that's not addictive!) > But you CAN do it. If you need to, wean yourself! I went from dairy to > organic soy, which cut down on sugars, because there are lots of > sugars in dairy. This means I could shave sugar intake off my milk and > ice cream. (There is some debate around soy not being trustworthy > because no one can be sure it's organic, but I've had overall good > experience with it.) Instead putting sugar on your cereal, get packets > of stevia. A Google search'll tell you it's a sweetening herb that > adds no sugars, calories, carbs, additives, etc. It's WONDERFUL. I > also use raw, organic honey in some tea after my dinner, and it keeps > cravings for sweets away. Also, try to eat more whole grains and > veggies whenever you feel a craving. A craving for anything indicates > you're out of balance. Whole grains and raw or steamed veggies (not > canned) will help balance you. You'd be surprised! Instead of eating > things with refined sugar in them, switch to things made with cane > juice. Yes, it's sugar--but my experience has been that it's not quite > so toxic and devoid of substance as refined sugar is, and while > refined sugar will flare my temper up (within an hour or two!), the > cane juice does not. Try grapes or apples instead of chocolate or > candy. You'd be SO surprised. You CAN break the addiction. If you want > to be healthy, free, alive, vibrant, happy, peaceful, and independent, > there is NO other way. > > Do I enjoy my chocolate soy ice cream and my organic chocolate M & M > substitutes? You bet! But in MODERATION. A little handful a day. I > ration myself, and every time I crave those things, I pick up some > grapes instead. I never have those things before I've had a good meal > or a healthy snack. If I'm still hungry afterwards, I'll have a couple > spoonfuls/handfuls (whichever's applicable!) > > The herb licorice will also satisfy sugar cravings and balance blood > sugar. Use caution with uncontrolled high blood pressure, however. But > herbal tea with licorice in it is awesome! No sweetener, not even > stevia or honey, is needed. > > I honestly hope to have helped you, and I honestly hope you'll not > give up. You're in the right place. All you have to do now is try our > suggestions, and have faith in us. Many of us have done wonderful and > amazing things for ourselves. Many of us actually know MORE about > certain things that regular medical doctors, simply because a lot of > the true healing and true health is not taught at med school. > > > I guess medication/anti-depressants is a better word then drugs. > > Nope, you were on the right track. Call them what they are, drugs. And > I would bet that weed is a hell of a lot healthier--and that stuff is > illegal...hmmm... Garlic is real medication. It helps with more > problems than any pharmaceutical. > > In peace and love, > --Jen > > > > > Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: > 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. > 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any > natural remedy. > 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician > and to > prescribe for your own health. > We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as > long as > they behave themselves. > Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any > person > following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. > It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products > from list members, you are agreeing to > be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and > members free of any liability. > > Dr. Ian Shillington > Doctor of Naturopathy > Dr.IanShillington > > > * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2004 Report Share Posted September 14, 2004 > You have let me know that baby steps are > acceptable! Absolutely! In fact, I've found that's what tends to work best. Gives you a chance to get used to the new changes. That way, there's no " all or nothing " standard, and a whole lot less of a sense of deprivation! I don't plan to totally cease having my organic chocolate soy ice cream But it's nice to know that if I HAD to for whatever reason, I COULD. (Which is unlike the way things used to be!) I also know that since even organic chocolate soy ice cream isn't as nutrient-packed as fruits, veggies, grains, seafood, etc, that I will make these healthy things the BULK of the food intake and make my " healthy junk food " a treat, instead of the other way around. And I feel that this is TOTALLY acceptable. And, even if your diet can only be, say, 50% organic because of the limited access to these foods for those in, for example, rural areas, do know that 50% organic (even though it's not 100) is still a hell of a lot better than zero! Keep on keepin on, & thanks for the support Shelby & the rest of the gang Cheerios back, --Jen herbal remedies , " Shelby Blakely " <sblakely@b...> wrote: > > I just want to thank you for posting your story. I also have a big problem > giving up " comfort " foods, and I've always felt that anything less than > total commitment was worthless. This attitude has kept me from really doing > anything about my health. You have let me know that baby steps are > acceptable! > -Cheerio, > -Shelby > > > supervixen08 [supervixen08] > Monday, September 13, 2004 5:33 PM > herbal remedies > Re: Herbal Remedies - VITAL ...Dear Christy....my story pt 2 & > suggestions > > > Hi Christy, > > > I was trying to find a better way to live ect. But I think I'm going > to have to find another way. I'm not sure my thinking belongs here. > > I hope, for your own sake, that you do not stop trying to find a > better way. Everyone is trying to find a better way; it's only natural Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2004 Report Share Posted September 14, 2004 Dear Christy, That is absolutely OK. That's how I did it, and that's how I was able to keep up with it. My dietary changes, while very drastic, have occurred over a period of roughly two years, and I'm STILL continuing to make progress--which means I ain't done yet! I continue to implement changes as I do more research, or as more research comes out, or as I run my trial (and sometimes error) in trying new things. Just this winter I learned about sprouted grain bread! And I'm learning to sprout my own seeds. I'd eventually like to own my own large plot of land and grow ALL my own herbs and produce, and barter with organic farmers around me for meat and milk. But living in the suburbs, as a domestically-retarded, black-thumbed college student, that is a long way off for me and to attempt to take on such a project as soon as I get out of school, do everything all at once, without knowing very much, would only set myself up for failure. I'd have to take it slow. And it's totally fine for you to do the same. Read and learn on your own. You might even make mistakes. That's OK. We're human. Making mistakes seems to be part of our job. Everyone starts somewhere. Just take it a little bit at a time. Just don't ever give up. You CAN do it. Just try to learn something new every day. Ask questions. No question is too basic or dumb or obvious. You'll do fine. Have patience with yourself and keep an open mind. There's much more than the mainstream channels would have you believe. You can do TONS for yourself, and cheaply. It gets easier. You'll soon be surprised at how much you know. And your body'll love you for it. So will your mind and your emotions. You'll feel balanced, breathe deeply, and sleep well. With love & peace, --Jen PS: Exploration's half the fun. You'll find that " healthier " junk foods taste better than the mainstream junk foods anyway. And you'll find that as you eat more and more naturally, you'll get pickier and pickier about what you eat. Suddenly, restaurant and conventional grocery store food begins to take FAKE. Organic is actually more FUN! herbal remedies , Christy Wyrtzen <c29wyrtzen> wrote: > Change is scary. It always will be. Rome wasn't built in a day and neither were my habits. I now if I do to much to soon I will become overwhelmed and unmotivated. So I must go slow. That's just me. > > Christy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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