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Deanna./ Lainie..Here is some info on this . With all laws/ initiatives

being introduced the view to look at it from is - what does this law open

the door to. Hope this helps.

 

We are not a political list here but something like this which can take away

our choice as to whether or not we take drugs is of interest to this group.

We are free to take action or not......Mary O

 

July 16, 2004

 

 

Information Access

 

 

 

 

The New Freedom Initiative (US): Ready To Be Tested?

According to a Progress Report, The New Freedom Initiative is a new

project announced by the White House to " help Americans with disabilities

.... " . But apparently, President Bush plans to unveil next month a sweeping

mental health initiative that recommends screening for every citizen and

promotes the use of expensive antidepressants and antipsychotic drugs. Under

the initiative, every citizen of virtually every age, including preschool

children, is to be screened for mental illness. Schools will be used as the

screening centres for the 52 million kids and 6 million teachers who attend

them.

Here is an excerpt from the Mental Health Commission report driving this

initiative: " The Commission concluded that the mental health service

delivery system in the United States must be substantively transformed. In

the transformed system: 1) Americans understand that mental health is

essential to overall health; 2) mental health care is consumer and

family-driven; 3) disparities in mental health services are eliminated; 4)

early mental health screening, assessment, and referral to services are

common practice; 5) excellent mental health services are delivered and

research is accelerated; and 6) technology is used to access mental health

care and information.

The model for the New Freedom initiative is the TMAP, which stands for the

Texas Medication Algorithm Project - that's right, the state that George

used to govern, a project that first saw the light of day during his time in

office there. TMAP promotes the use of the new, and more expensive,

antidepressants and antipsychotic drugs, such as Zyprexa (olanzapine), which

is Eli Lilly's best selling drug. It grossed $4.28bn in 2003, with 70 per

cent of the revenues paid for by government agencies such as Medicare and

Medicaid. " Critics say the plan protects the profits of drug companies at

the expense of the public. b>Will you pass George's mental health test?

 

 

Screening programs are already under way. Find out more here:

Screening for Mental Health

 

 

WorldNetDaily -- Reference

 

Posted on July 16, 2004 at 09:29 AM

 

 

 

 

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Bush To Impose Psychiatric Drug Regime

 

Plans to screen whole US population for mental illness According to a

recent article in the British Medical Journal, US president George Bush is

to announce a major " mental health " initiative in this coming month of July.

The proposal will extend scree...

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OK from what I am reading and read at the washington site. it is to help

people that have disabilities.

 

Deana

 

Ostrowski wrote:

 

> Deanna./ Lainie..Here is some info on this . With all laws/ initiatives

> being introduced the view to look at it from is - what does this law

> open

> the door to. Hope this helps.

>

> We are not a political list here but something like this which can

> take away

> our choice as to whether or not we take drugs is of interest to this

> group.

> We are free to take action or not......Mary O

>

> July 16, 2004

>

>

> Information Access

>

>

>

>

> The New Freedom Initiative (US): Ready To Be Tested?

> According to a Progress Report, The New Freedom Initiative is a new

> project announced by the White House to " help Americans with disabilities

> ... " . But apparently, President Bush plans to unveil next month a sweeping

> mental health initiative that recommends screening for every citizen and

> promotes the use of expensive antidepressants and antipsychotic drugs.

> Under

> the initiative, every citizen of virtually every age, including preschool

> children, is to be screened for mental illness. Schools will be used

> as the

> screening centres for the 52 million kids and 6 million teachers who

> attend

> them.

> Here is an excerpt from the Mental Health Commission report driving this

> initiative: " The Commission concluded that the mental health service

> delivery system in the United States must be substantively transformed. In

> the transformed system: 1) Americans understand that mental health is

> essential to overall health; 2) mental health care is consumer and

> family-driven; 3) disparities in mental health services are eliminated; 4)

> early mental health screening, assessment, and referral to services are

> common practice; 5) excellent mental health services are delivered and

> research is accelerated; and 6) technology is used to access mental health

> care and information.

> The model for the New Freedom initiative is the TMAP, which stands

> for the

> Texas Medication Algorithm Project - that's right, the state that George

> used to govern, a project that first saw the light of day during his

> time in

> office there. TMAP promotes the use of the new, and more expensive,

> antidepressants and antipsychotic drugs, such as Zyprexa (olanzapine),

> which

> is Eli Lilly's best selling drug. It grossed $4.28bn in 2003, with 70 per

> cent of the revenues paid for by government agencies such as Medicare and

> Medicaid. " Critics say the plan protects the profits of drug companies at

> the expense of the public. b>Will you pass George's mental health test?

>

>

> Screening programs are already under way. Find out more here:

> Screening for Mental Health

>

>

> WorldNetDaily -- Reference

>

> Posted on July 16, 2004 at 09:29 AM

>

>

>

>

> Citations from other weblogs

> TrackBack URL for this entry

> http://www.masternewmedia.org/cgi-bin/mt-tb.cgi/994

>

>

>

> July 18, 2004 05:42 PM Health Supreme

>

>

> Bush To Impose Psychiatric Drug Regime

>

> Plans to screen whole US population for mental illness According to a

> recent article in the British Medical Journal, US president George Bush is

> to announce a major " mental health " initiative in this coming month of

> July.

> The proposal will extend scree...

>

>

> Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following:

> 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire.

> 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any

> natural remedy.

> 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician

> and to

> prescribe for your own health.

> We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as

> long as

> they behave themselves.

> Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any

> person

> following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk.

> It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products

> from list members, you are agreeing to

> be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and

> members free of any liability.

>

> Dr. Ian Shillington

> Doctor of Naturopathy

> Dr.IanShillington

>

>

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Also it says .. But apparently,, recommends... so there isn't any proven

fact of this and it isn't a requirement.. If I am wrong please let me

know so I can call denounce it but I really need facts before I make a

choice like that.

 

Deana

 

Ostrowski wrote:

 

> Deanna./ Lainie..Here is some info on this . With all laws/ initiatives

> being introduced the view to look at it from is - what does this law

> open

> the door to. Hope this helps.

>

> We are not a political list here but something like this which can

> take away

> our choice as to whether or not we take drugs is of interest to this

> group.

> We are free to take action or not......Mary O

>

> July 16, 2004

>

>

> Information Access

>

>

>

>

> The New Freedom Initiative (US): Ready To Be Tested?

> According to a Progress Report, The New Freedom Initiative is a new

> project announced by the White House to " help Americans with disabilities

> ... " . But apparently, President Bush plans to unveil next month a sweeping

> mental health initiative that recommends screening for every citizen and

> promotes the use of expensive antidepressants and antipsychotic drugs.

> Under

> the initiative, every citizen of virtually every age, including preschool

> children, is to be screened for mental illness. Schools will be used

> as the

> screening centres for the 52 million kids and 6 million teachers who

> attend

> them.

> Here is an excerpt from the Mental Health Commission report driving this

> initiative: " The Commission concluded that the mental health service

> delivery system in the United States must be substantively transformed. In

> the transformed system: 1) Americans understand that mental health is

> essential to overall health; 2) mental health care is consumer and

> family-driven; 3) disparities in mental health services are eliminated; 4)

> early mental health screening, assessment, and referral to services are

> common practice; 5) excellent mental health services are delivered and

> research is accelerated; and 6) technology is used to access mental health

> care and information.

> The model for the New Freedom initiative is the TMAP, which stands

> for the

> Texas Medication Algorithm Project - that's right, the state that George

> used to govern, a project that first saw the light of day during his

> time in

> office there. TMAP promotes the use of the new, and more expensive,

> antidepressants and antipsychotic drugs, such as Zyprexa (olanzapine),

> which

> is Eli Lilly's best selling drug. It grossed $4.28bn in 2003, with 70 per

> cent of the revenues paid for by government agencies such as Medicare and

> Medicaid. " Critics say the plan protects the profits of drug companies at

> the expense of the public. b>Will you pass George's mental health test?

>

>

> Screening programs are already under way. Find out more here:

> Screening for Mental Health

>

>

> WorldNetDaily -- Reference

>

> Posted on July 16, 2004 at 09:29 AM

>

>

>

>

> Citations from other weblogs

> TrackBack URL for this entry

> http://www.masternewmedia.org/cgi-bin/mt-tb.cgi/994

>

>

>

> July 18, 2004 05:42 PM Health Supreme

>

>

> Bush To Impose Psychiatric Drug Regime

>

> Plans to screen whole US population for mental illness According to a

> recent article in the British Medical Journal, US president George Bush is

> to announce a major " mental health " initiative in this coming month of

> July.

> The proposal will extend scree...

>

>

> Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following:

> 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire.

> 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any

> natural remedy.

> 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician

> and to

> prescribe for your own health.

> We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as

> long as

> they behave themselves.

> Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any

> person

> following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk.

> It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products

> from list members, you are agreeing to

> be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and

> members free of any liability.

>

> Dr. Ian Shillington

> Doctor of Naturopathy

> Dr.IanShillington

>

>

> *

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Hi Deanna...Mental Illness IS condidered a disability . This is one of the

ways that the Pharmaceuticals have snuck things through....Mary O

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" Deana " <squeekyme

<herbal remedies >

Saturday, September 11, 2004 12:27 PM

Re: Herbal Remedies - VITAL EMERGENCY ! ! ! - This concerns YOU ! !

!/ DEANNA & LAINIE

 

 

>

> OK from what I am reading and read at the washington site. it is to help

> people that have disabilities.

>

> Deana

>

> Ostrowski wrote:

>

> > Deanna./ Lainie..Here is some info on this . With all laws/ initiatives

> > being introduced the view to look at it from is - what does this law

> > open

> > the door to. Hope this helps.

> >

> > We are not a political list here but something like this which can

> > take away

> > our choice as to whether or not we take drugs is of interest to this

> > group.

> > We are free to take action or not......Mary O

> >

> > July 16, 2004

> >

> >

> > Information Access

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > The New Freedom Initiative (US): Ready To Be Tested?

> > According to a Progress Report, The New Freedom Initiative is a new

> > project announced by the White House to " help Americans with

disabilities

> > ... " . But apparently, President Bush plans to unveil next month a

sweeping

> > mental health initiative that recommends screening for every citizen and

> > promotes the use of expensive antidepressants and antipsychotic drugs.

> > Under

> > the initiative, every citizen of virtually every age, including

preschool

> > children, is to be screened for mental illness. Schools will be used

> > as the

> > screening centres for the 52 million kids and 6 million teachers who

> > attend

> > them.

> > Here is an excerpt from the Mental Health Commission report driving

this

> > initiative: " The Commission concluded that the mental health service

> > delivery system in the United States must be substantively transformed.

In

> > the transformed system: 1) Americans understand that mental health is

> > essential to overall health; 2) mental health care is consumer and

> > family-driven; 3) disparities in mental health services are eliminated;

4)

> > early mental health screening, assessment, and referral to services are

> > common practice; 5) excellent mental health services are delivered and

> > research is accelerated; and 6) technology is used to access mental

health

> > care and information.

> > The model for the New Freedom initiative is the TMAP, which stands

> > for the

> > Texas Medication Algorithm Project - that's right, the state that George

> > used to govern, a project that first saw the light of day during his

> > time in

> > office there. TMAP promotes the use of the new, and more expensive,

> > antidepressants and antipsychotic drugs, such as Zyprexa (olanzapine),

> > which

> > is Eli Lilly's best selling drug. It grossed $4.28bn in 2003, with 70

per

> > cent of the revenues paid for by government agencies such as Medicare

and

> > Medicaid. " Critics say the plan protects the profits of drug companies

at

> > the expense of the public. b>Will you pass George's mental health test?

> >

> >

> > Screening programs are already under way. Find out more here:

> > Screening for Mental Health

> >

> >

> > WorldNetDaily -- Reference

> >

> > Posted on July 16, 2004 at 09:29 AM

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Citations from other weblogs

> > TrackBack URL for this entry

> > http://www.masternewmedia.org/cgi-bin/mt-tb.cgi/994

> >

> >

> >

> > July 18, 2004 05:42 PM Health Supreme

> >

> >

> > Bush To Impose Psychiatric Drug Regime

> >

> > Plans to screen whole US population for mental illness According to a

> > recent article in the British Medical Journal, US president George Bush

is

> > to announce a major " mental health " initiative in this coming month of

> > July.

> > The proposal will extend scree...

> >

> >

> > Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following:

> > 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire.

> > 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any

> > natural remedy.

> > 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician

> > and to

> > prescribe for your own health.

> > We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as

> > long as

> > they behave themselves.

> > Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any

> > person

> > following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk.

> > It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products

> > from list members, you are agreeing to

> > be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and

> > members free of any liability.

> >

> > Dr. Ian Shillington

> > Doctor of Naturopathy

> > Dr.IanShillington

> >

> >

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Deanna....No it is not a requirement as of yet . But that is the whole

point - to " nip it in the bud " ! Once a law is passed it is rarely taken

back.It is the time to speak up if one disagrees with the prospect ...Mary O

-

" Deana " <squeekyme

<herbal remedies >

Saturday, September 11, 2004 12:29 PM

Re: Herbal Remedies - VITAL EMERGENCY ! ! ! - This concerns YOU ! !

!/ DEANNA & LAINIE

 

 

> Also it says .. But apparently,, recommends... so there isn't any proven

> fact of this and it isn't a requirement.. If I am wrong please let me

> know so I can call denounce it but I really need facts before I make a

> choice like that.

>

> Deana

>

>

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That's what they said about vaccinations too.

Imagine it through the Eli Lily's eyes. Chicago is screening a mass

population for new customers.

If they find any, do you think they would offer herbal remedies along side

with the legal drugs? Would they even mention Naturopathic avenues? It is

widely known that if the success rate of pharmo's were a grade in school,

they would be failing. But this is not about helping people, it's about

finding another cash cow.

Cheerio,

-Shelby

 

 

Deana [squeekyme]

Saturday, September 11, 2004 11:28 AM

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Re: Herbal Remedies - VITAL EMERGENCY ! ! ! - This concerns YOU

! ! !/ DEANNA & LAINIE

 

 

 

OK from what I am reading and read at the washington site. it is to help

people that have disabilities.

 

Deana

 

Ostrowski wrote:

 

> Deanna./ Lainie..Here is some info on this . With all laws/ initiatives

> being introduced the view to look at it from is - what does this law

> open

> the door to. Hope this helps.

>

> We are not a political list here but something like this which can

> take away

> our choice as to whether or not we take drugs is of interest to this

> group.

> We are free to take action or not......Mary O

>

> July 16, 2004

>

>

> Information Access

>

>

>

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Hmm this is a hard area for me. I went through a period of suicidal

attempts when I was in my early teens and then had severe postpartum

depression after my 3rd child. All had to do with growing up in a home

with an alcoholic mother and a verbal, emotional, physicaly abusive

father and being raped at the age of 14 and 16 by men in there 30's and

I will tell you that every time I have a low day or was crying at our

most recent childs doctors apt because of his 3 month colick that they

auto lable me with Depression and Mental problems for the rest of my

life. I have not taken any medication in the past two years and am

feeling better then I have ever felt in my life.

 

In the case that this is supposedly showing ... I would constantly be

asked about how my so called depression is doing for the rest of my life

wether this bill is passed or not because doctors auto labled me with it.

 

Instead I choose to look at myself as a survivor and a very strong one

at that.

 

If this is truely what is being passed then it is very very sad to me ..

the " saying " that new drugs are better is proven to be false by man

including myself as they tried so many different drugs with me and none

ever worked . HA Maybe thats because there is nothing wrong with

" most " so called depressed peoples seretonin levels. It all has to do

with proper care of self physical and emotionally and putting one self

around positive people and making positive decissions.

 

If people were supposedly born with this " Illness " as they call it,

wouldn't they have known a test by now of what a normal amt of seretonin

and compare it to a persons actually seretonin tests before they just

auto prescribe a pill.

 

I am sorry like I said this is a touchy subject and maybe this letter

belongs being sent to the gvt or something.

 

Hugs

Deana

 

 

Shelby Blakely wrote:

 

> That's what they said about vaccinations too.

> Imagine it through the Eli Lily's eyes. Chicago is screening a mass

> population for new customers.

> If they find any, do you think they would offer herbal remedies along side

> with the legal drugs? Would they even mention Naturopathic avenues? It is

> widely known that if the success rate of pharmo's were a grade in school,

> they would be failing. But this is not about helping people, it's about

> finding another cash cow.

> Cheerio,

> -Shelby

>

>

> Deana [squeekyme]

> Saturday, September 11, 2004 11:28 AM

> herbal remedies

> Re: Herbal Remedies - VITAL EMERGENCY ! ! ! - This concerns YOU

> ! ! !/ DEANNA & LAINIE

>

>

>

> OK from what I am reading and read at the washington site. it is to help

> people that have disabilities.

>

> Deana

>

> Ostrowski wrote:

>

> > Deanna./ Lainie..Here is some info on this . With all laws/ initiatives

> > being introduced the view to look at it from is - what does this law

> > open

> > the door to. Hope this helps.

> >

> > We are not a political list here but something like this which can

> > take away

> > our choice as to whether or not we take drugs is of interest to this

> > group.

> > We are free to take action or not......Mary O

> >

> > July 16, 2004

> >

> >

> > Information Access

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

> Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following:

> 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire.

> 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any

> natural remedy.

> 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician

> and to

> prescribe for your own health.

> We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as

> long as

> they behave themselves.

> Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any

> person

> following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk.

> It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products

> from list members, you are agreeing to

> be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and

> members free of any liability.

>

> Dr. Ian Shillington

> Doctor of Naturopathy

> Dr.IanShillington

>

>

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I wish someone would screen me. Maybe I can get free drugs! I was perscribed Lexipro for depression. It works. My head was in a much better place. But my copay went up and I can't afford it. I tried St John's Wort but it didn't work. Now my depression and anxiety are really bad. But I can't afford the drugs.

 

ChristyShelby Blakely <sblakely wrote:

That's what they said about vaccinations too.Imagine it through the Eli Lily's eyes. Chicago is screening a masspopulation for new customers.If they find any, do you think they would offer herbal remedies along sidewith the legal drugs? Would they even mention Naturopathic avenues? It iswidely known that if the success rate of pharmo's were a grade in school,they would be failing. But this is not about helping people, it's aboutfinding another cash cow.Cheerio,-ShelbyDeana [squeekyme]Saturday, September 11, 2004 11:28 AMherbal remedies Subject: Re: Herbal Remedies - VITAL EMERGENCY ! ! ! - This concerns YOU! ! !/ DEANNA & LAINIEOK from what I am reading and read at the washington site. it is to helppeople that have

disabilities.DeanaOstrowski wrote:> Deanna./ Lainie..Here is some info on this . With all laws/ initiatives> being introduced the view to look at it from is - what does this law> open> the door to. Hope this helps.>> We are not a political list here but something like this which can> take away> our choice as to whether or not we take drugs is of interest to this> group.> We are free to take action or not......Mary O>> July 16, 2004>>> Information Access>>>Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own

health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington >^..^<ChristyYOUR VOTE YOUR VOICE!DON'T FORGET TO VOTE!

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On a long shot Christy, Sam-E works very very well. I think St. John's

Wort is only for extremely mild cases of it.

 

Hugs

Deana

 

Christy Wyrtzen wrote:

 

> I wish someone would screen me. Maybe I can get free drugs! I was

> perscribed Lexipro for depression. It works. My head was in a much

> better place. But my copay went up and I can't afford it. I tried St

> John's Wort but it didn't work. Now my depression and anxiety are

> really bad. But I can't afford the drugs.

>

> Christy

>

> */Shelby Blakely <sblakely/* wrote:

>

> That's what they said about vaccinations too.

> Imagine it through the Eli Lily's eyes. Chicago is screening a mass

> population for new customers.

> If they find any, do you think they would offer herbal remedies

> along side

> with the legal drugs? Would they even mention Naturopathic

> avenues? It is

> widely known that if the success rate of pharmo's were a grade in

> school,

> they would be failing. But this is not about helping people, it's

> about

> finding another cash cow.

> Cheerio,

> -Shelby

>

>

> Deana [squeekyme]

> Saturday, September 11, 2004 11:28 AM

> herbal remedies

> Re: Herbal Remedies - VITAL EMERGENCY ! ! ! - This

> concerns YOU

> ! ! !/ DEANNA & LAINIE

>

>

>

> OK from what I am reading and read at the washington site. it is

> to help

> people that ! have disabilities.

>

> Deana

>

> Ostrowski wrote:

>

> > Deanna./ Lainie..Here is some info on this . With all laws/

> initiatives

> > being introduced the view to look at it from is - what does

> this law

> > open

> > the door to. Hope this helps.

> >

> > We are not a political list here but something like this which can

> > take away

> > our choice as to whether or not we take drugs is of interest to this

> > group.

> > We are free to take action or not......Mary O

> >

> > July 16, 2004

> >

> >

> > Information Access

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

> Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following:

> 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire.

> 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any

> natural remedy.

> 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own

> physician and to

> prescribe for your o! wn health.

> We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here

> as long as

> they behave themselves.

> Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and

> any person

> following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own

> risk.

> It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or

> products from list members, you are agreeing to

> be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner

> and members free of any liability.

>

> Dr. Ian Shillington

> Doctor of Naturopathy

> Dr.IanShillington

>

>

>

>

> >^..^<

> Christy

> YOUR VOTE YOUR VOICE!

> DON'T FORGET TO VOTE!

>

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>

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Hi Christy,

 

Well, I don't think you will get much agreement to your wish for drugs on this list LOL

 

St John's Wort is in fact not a herb meant to handle depression, so I'm not surprised to hear it didn't work.

 

I would start with the Total Nutrition ( see files) if I were you. It really does lift the spirits - at least, that is my experience with it :-)

 

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I wish someone would screen me. Maybe I can get free drugs! I was perscribed Lexipro for depression. It works. My head was in a much better place. But my copay went up and I can't afford it. I tried St John's Wort but it didn't work. Now my depression and anxiety are really bad. But I can't afford the drugs.

 

ChristyShelby Blakely <sblakely wrote:

That's what they said about vaccinations too.Imagine it through the Eli Lily's eyes. Chicago is screening a masspopulation for new customers.If they find any, do you think they would offer herbal remedies along sidewith the legal drugs? Would they even mention Naturopathic avenues? It iswidely known that if the success rate of pharmo's were a grade in school,they would be failing. But this is not about helping people, it's aboutfinding another cash cow.Cheerio,-ShelbyDeana [squeekyme]Saturday, September 11, 2004 11:28 AMherbal remedies Subject: Re: Herbal Remedies - VITAL EMERGENCY ! ! ! - This concerns YOU! ! !/ DEANNA & LAINIEOK from what I am reading and read at the washington site. it is to helppeople that have disabilities.DeanaOstrowski wrote:> Deanna./ Lainie..Here is some info on this . With all laws/ initiatives> being introduced the view to look at it from is - what does this law> open> the door to. Hope this helps.>> We are not a political list here but something like this which can> take away> our choice as to whether or not we take drugs is of interest to this> group.> We are free to take action or not......Mary O>> July 16, 2004>>> Information Access>>>Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington >^..^<ChristyYOUR VOTE YOUR VOICE!DON'T FORGET TO VOTE!

 

 

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Sam-E did wonders for me.

 

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I wish someone would screen me. Maybe I can get free drugs! I was perscribed Lexipro for depression. It works. My head was in a much better place. But my copay went up and I can't afford it. I tried St John's Wort but it didn't work. Now my depression and anxiety are really bad. But I can't afford the drugs.

 

ChristyShelby Blakely <sblakely wrote:

That's what they said about vaccinations too.Imagine it through the Eli Lily's eyes. Chicago is screening a masspopulation for new customers.If they find any, do you think they would offer herbal remedies along sidewith the legal drugs? Would they even mention Naturopathic avenues? It iswidely known that if the success rate of pharmo's were a grade in school,they would be failing. But this is not about helping people, it's aboutfinding another cash cow.Cheerio,-ShelbyDeana [squeekyme]Saturday, September 11, 2004 11:28 AMherbal remedies Subject: Re: Herbal Remedies - VITAL EMERGENCY ! ! ! - This concerns YOU! ! !/ DEANNA & LAINIEOK from what I am reading and read at the washington site. it is to helppeople that have disabilities.DeanaOstrowski wrote:> Deanna./ Lainie..Here is some info on this . With all laws/ initiatives> being introduced the view to look at it from is - what does this law> open> the door to. Hope this helps.>> We are not a political list here but something like this which can> take away> our choice as to whether or not we take drugs is of interest to this> group.> We are free to take action or not......Mary O>> July 16, 2004>>> Information Access>>>Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington >^..^<ChristyYOUR VOTE YOUR VOICE!DON'T FORGET TO VOTE!

 

 

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Ummm, are you joking?

 

 

Christy Wyrtzen [c29wyrtzen] Saturday, September 11, 2004 2:17 PMherbal remedies Subject: RE: Herbal Remedies - VITAL EMERGENCY ! ! ! - This concerns YOU ! ! !/ DEANNA & LAINIE

I wish someone would screen me. Maybe I can get free drugs! I was perscribed Lexipro for depression. It works. My head was in a much better place. But my copay went up and I can't afford it. I tried St John's Wort but it didn't work. Now my depression and anxiety are really bad. But I can't afford the drugs.

 

ChristyShelby Blakely <sblakely wrote:

That's what they said about vaccinations too.Imagine it through the Eli Lily's eyes. Chicago is screening a masspopulation for new customers.If they find any, do you think they would offer herbal remedies along sidewith the legal drugs? Would they even mention Naturopathic avenues? It iswidely known that if the success rate of pharmo's were a grade in school,they would be failing. But this is not about helping people, it's aboutfinding another cash cow.Cheerio,-ShelbyDeana [squeekyme]Saturday, September 11, 2004 11:28 AMherbal remedies Subject: Re: Herbal Remedies - VITAL EMERGENCY ! ! ! - This concerns YOU! ! !/ DEANNA & LAINIEOK from what I am reading and read at the washington site. it is to helppeople that have disabilities.DeanaOstrowski wrote:> Deanna./ Lainie..Here is some info on this . With all laws/ initiatives> being introduced the view to look at it from is - what does this law> open> the door to. Hope this helps.>> We are not a political list here but something like this which can> take away> our choice as to whether or not we take drugs is of interest to this> group.> We are free to take action or not......Mary O>> July 16, 2004>>> Information Access>>>Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington >^..^<ChristyYOUR VOTE YOUR VOICE!DON'T FORGET TO VOTE!

 

 

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NO. A alot of these studies give out free medication. I am desperate.

 

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Ummm, are you joking?

 

 

Christy Wyrtzen [c29wyrtzen] Saturday, September 11, 2004 2:17 PMherbal remedies Subject: RE: Herbal Remedies - VITAL EMERGENCY ! ! ! - This concerns YOU ! ! !/ DEANNA & LAINIE

I wish someone would screen me. Maybe I can get free drugs! I was perscribed Lexipro for depression. It works. My head was in a much better place. But my copay went up and I can't afford it. I tried St John's Wort but it didn't work. Now my depression and anxiety are really bad. But I can't afford the drugs.

 

ChristyShelby Blakely <sblakely wrote:

That's what they said about vaccinations too.Imagine it through the Eli Lily's eyes. Chicago is screening a masspopulation for new customers.If they find any, do you think they would offer herbal remedies along sidewith the legal drugs? Would they even mention Naturopathic avenues? It iswidely known that if the success rate of pharmo's were a grade in school,they would be failing. But this is not about helping people, it's aboutfinding another cash cow.Cheerio,-ShelbyDeana [squeekyme]Saturday, September 11, 2004 11:28 AMherbal remedies Subject: Re: Herbal Remedies - VITAL EMERGENCY ! ! ! - This concerns YOU! ! !/ DEANNA & LAINIEOK from what I am reading and read at the washington site. it is to helppeople that have

disabilities.DeanaOstrowski wrote:> Deanna./ Lainie..Here is some info on this . With all laws/ initiatives> being introduced the view to look at it from is - what does this law> open> the door to. Hope this helps.>> We are not a political list here but something like this which can> take away> our choice as to whether or not we take drugs is of interest to this> group.> We are free to take action or not......Mary O>> July 16, 2004>>> Information Access>>>Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own

health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington >^..^<ChristyYOUR VOTE YOUR VOICE!DON'T FORGET TO VOTE!

 

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What is sam-E?

 

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On a long shot Christy, Sam-E works very very well. I think St. John's Wort is only for extremely mild cases of it.HugsDeanaChristy Wyrtzen wrote:> I wish someone would screen me. Maybe I can get free drugs! I was > perscribed Lexipro for depression. It works. My head was in a much > better place. But my copay went up and I can't afford it. I tried St > John's Wort but it didn't work. Now my depression and anxiety are > really bad. But I can't afford the drugs.> > Christy>> */Shelby Blakely <sblakely/* wrote:>> That's what they said about vaccinations too.> Imagine it through the Eli Lily's eyes. Chicago is screening a mass> population for new

customers.> If they find any, do you think they would offer herbal remedies> along side> with the legal drugs? Would they even mention Naturopathic> avenues? It is> widely known that if the success rate of pharmo's were a grade in> school,> they would be failing. But this is not about helping people, it's> about> finding another cash cow.> Cheerio,> -Shelby>> > Deana [squeekyme]> Saturday, September 11, 2004 11:28 AM> To:

herbal remedies > Re: Herbal Remedies - VITAL EMERGENCY ! ! ! - This> concerns YOU> ! ! !/ DEANNA & LAINIE>>>> OK from what I am reading and read at the washington site. it is> to help> people that ! have disabilities.>> Deana>> Ostrowski wrote:>> > Deanna./ Lainie..Here is some info on this . With all laws/> initiatives> > being introduced the view to look at it from is - what does> this law> > open> > the door to. Hope this helps.>

>> > We are not a political list here but something like this which can> > take away> > our choice as to whether or not we take drugs is of interest to this> > group.> > We are free to take action or not......Mary O> >> > July 16, 2004> >> >> > Information Access> >> >> >>>>> Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: > 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire.> 2. If you are

pregnant, consult your physician before using any> natural remedy. > 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own> physician and to> prescribe for your o! wn health. > We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here> as long as> they behave themselves. > Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and> any person> following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own> risk.> It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or> products from list members, you are agreeing to> be fully

responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner> and members free of any liability.>> Dr. Ian Shillington> Doctor of Naturopathy> Dr.IanShillington>>>> >^..^<> Christy> YOUR VOTE YOUR VOICE!> DON'T FORGET TO VOTE!>> ------> > Shop for Back-to-School deals on Shopping > </b:Back%20to%20School%20Sale%202004:96644124;_ylc=X3oDMTE0ZThra2w0BF9TAzk2Njg2MzU4BHNlYwNpbnRlZwRzbGsDbWFpbGZvb3Rlcg-->. >>> Federal Law requires that we warn you of the

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I meant are you joking about wanting the drugs?

 

 

Christy Wyrtzen [c29wyrtzen] Sunday, September 12, 2004 10:47 AMherbal remedies Subject: RE: Herbal Remedies - VITAL EMERGENCY ! ! ! - This concerns YOU ! ! !/ DEANNA & LAINIE

 

NO. A alot of these studies give out free medication. I am desperate.

 

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Ummm, are you joking?

 

 

Christy Wyrtzen [c29wyrtzen] Saturday, September 11, 2004 2:17 PMherbal remedies Subject: RE: Herbal Remedies - VITAL EMERGENCY ! ! ! - This concerns YOU ! ! !/ DEANNA & LAINIE

I wish someone would screen me. Maybe I can get free drugs! I was perscribed Lexipro for depression. It works. My head was in a much better place. But my copay went up and I can't afford it. I tried St John's Wort but it didn't work. Now my depression and anxiety are really bad. But I can't afford the drugs.

 

ChristyShelby Blakely <sblakely wrote:

That's what they said about vaccinations too.Imagine it through the Eli Lily's eyes. Chicago is screening a masspopulation for new customers.If they find any, do you think they would offer herbal remedies along sidewith the legal drugs? Would they even mention Naturopathic avenues? It iswidely known that if the success rate of pharmo's were a grade in school,they would be failing. But this is not about helping people, it's aboutfinding another cash cow.Cheerio,-ShelbyDeana [squeekyme]Saturday, September 11, 2004 11:28 AMherbal remedies Subject: Re: Herbal Remedies - VITAL EMERGENCY ! ! ! - This concerns YOU! ! !/ DEANNA & LAINIEOK from what I am reading and read at the washington site. it is to helppeople that have disabilities.DeanaOstrowski wrote:> Deanna./ Lainie..Here is some info on this . With all laws/ initiatives> being introduced the view to look at it from is - what does this law> open> the door to. Hope this helps.>> We are not a political list here but something like this which can> take away> our choice as to whether or not we take drugs is of interest to this> group.> We are free to take action or not......Mary O>> July 16, 2004>>> Information Access>>>Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington >^..^<ChristyYOUR VOTE YOUR VOICE!DON'T FORGET TO VOTE!

 

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I don't think she is. I think she is serious.

 

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I meant are you joking about wanting the drugs?

 

 

Christy Wyrtzen [c29wyrtzen] Sunday, September 12, 2004 10:47 AMherbal remedies Subject: RE: Herbal Remedies - VITAL EMERGENCY ! ! ! - This concerns YOU ! ! !/ DEANNA & LAINIE

 

NO. A alot of these studies give out free medication. I am desperate.

 

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Ummm, are you joking?

 

 

Christy Wyrtzen [c29wyrtzen] Saturday, September 11, 2004 2:17 PMherbal remedies Subject: RE: Herbal Remedies - VITAL EMERGENCY ! ! ! - This concerns YOU ! ! !/ DEANNA & LAINIE

I wish someone would screen me. Maybe I can get free drugs! I was perscribed Lexipro for depression. It works. My head was in a much better place. But my copay went up and I can't afford it. I tried St John's Wort but it didn't work. Now my depression and anxiety are really bad. But I can't afford the drugs.

 

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That's what they said about vaccinations too.Imagine it through the Eli Lily's eyes. Chicago is screening a masspopulation for new customers.If they find any, do you think they would offer herbal remedies along sidewith the legal drugs? Would they even mention Naturopathic avenues? It iswidely known that if the success rate of pharmo's were a grade in school,they would be failing. But this is not about helping people, it's aboutfinding another cash cow.Cheerio,-ShelbyDeana [squeekyme]Saturday, September 11, 2004 11:28 AMherbal remedies Subject: Re: Herbal Remedies - VITAL EMERGENCY ! ! ! - This concerns YOU! ! !/ DEANNA & LAINIEOK from what I am reading and read at the washington site. it is to helppeople that have disabilities.DeanaOstrowski wrote:> Deanna./ Lainie..Here is some info on this . With all laws/ initiatives> being introduced the view to look at it from is - what does this law> open> the door to. Hope this helps.>> We are not a political list here but something like this which can> take away> our choice as to whether or not we take drugs is of interest to this> group.> We are free to take action or not......Mary O>> July 16, 2004>>> Information Access>>>Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington >^..^<ChristyYOUR VOTE YOUR VOICE!DON'T FORGET TO VOTE!

 

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I guess medication/anti-depressants is a better word then drugs.

 

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I meant are you joking about wanting the drugs?

 

 

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NO. A alot of these studies give out free medication. I am desperate.

 

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Ummm, are you joking?

 

 

Christy Wyrtzen [c29wyrtzen] Saturday, September 11, 2004 2:17 PMherbal remedies Subject: RE: Herbal Remedies - VITAL EMERGENCY ! ! ! - This concerns YOU ! ! !/ DEANNA & LAINIE

I wish someone would screen me. Maybe I can get free drugs! I was perscribed Lexipro for depression. It works. My head was in a much better place. But my copay went up and I can't afford it. I tried St John's Wort but it didn't work. Now my depression and anxiety are really bad. But I can't afford the drugs.

 

ChristyShelby Blakely <sblakely wrote:

That's what they said about vaccinations too.Imagine it through the Eli Lily's eyes. Chicago is screening a masspopulation for new customers.If they find any, do you think they would offer herbal remedies along sidewith the legal drugs? Would they even mention Naturopathic avenues? It iswidely known that if the success rate of pharmo's were a grade in school,they would be failing. But this is not about helping people, it's aboutfinding another cash cow.Cheerio,-ShelbyDeana [squeekyme]Saturday, September 11, 2004 11:28 AMherbal remedies Subject: Re: Herbal Remedies - VITAL EMERGENCY ! ! ! - This concerns YOU! ! !/ DEANNA & LAINIEOK from what I am reading and read at the washington site. it is to helppeople that have

disabilities.DeanaOstrowski wrote:> Deanna./ Lainie..Here is some info on this . With all laws/ initiatives> being introduced the view to look at it from is - what does this law> open> the door to. Hope this helps.>> We are not a political list here but something like this which can> take away> our choice as to whether or not we take drugs is of interest to this> group.> We are free to take action or not......Mary O>> July 16, 2004>>> Information Access>>>Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own

health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington >^..^<ChristyYOUR VOTE YOUR VOICE!DON'T FORGET TO VOTE!

 

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Christy, I've been following your postings, and I'm wondering WHY you are on this list?

 

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I guess medication/anti-depressants is a better word then drugs.

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I was trying to find a better way to live ect. But I think I'm going to have to find another way. I'm not sure my thinking belongs here.

 

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maybe she is seeking alternatives./ We should not judge as some are

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Hi Christy,

There is a better way, and I hope you stay and learn. I also hope you give some serious thought to what others on this list have suggested. Especially healthy eating, and I would include exercise. You say you've been battling depression since you were 5 and you were eating right then. It is highly unlikely that you were eating right then. Most children are fed tons of junk food, pesticide ridden fruits and vegetables, hormone and drug ridden meats and dairy, and refined grains. So, unless you were very lucky and had highly health aware parents, you were never eating right. In order for your mind to be healthy, your body needs to be healthy. It is all connected, and all these chemicals and hormones in the foods we eat create no end of problems for us. I know the prospect of changing your eating habits and getting some exercise probably seems overwhelming to you right now, but you can do it. It isn't easy, but it is worth every ounce of effort in the long run. There are herbs and

supplements that I have no doubt can help you too, but unless you quit poisoning your body with the foods you eat, there will be only temporary relief. I wish you all the best.

 

Loveand hugs,

RoniChristy Wyrtzen <c29wyrtzen wrote:

 

I was trying to find a better way to live ect. But I think I'm going to have to find another way. I'm not sure my thinking belongs here.

 

ChristyLisa Belcher <lisabelcher wrote:

 

Christy, I've been following your postings, and I'm wondering WHY you are on this list?

 

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Monday, September 13, 2004 3:35 AM

RE: Herbal Remedies - VITAL EMERGENCY ! ! ! - This concerns YOU ! ! !/ DEANNA & LAINIE

 

I guess medication/anti-depressants is a better word then drugs.Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of

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A better way, usually means changing your lifestyle in some fashion. Like you I used to think that if I gave up all those "comfort foods" I'd be lost, but it did not happen that way. I found new "comfort foods" that were better for my body. I made the changes gradually - like I think most people on this list did. I'm still making changes. There are a lot of people on this list who have been to hell and back both with depression and physical illness. They made life changes that worked for them. Everyone here, has a story to tell about how they managed to regain control of their health. This is a Natropathy List run by a Naturopathic doctor. Naturopathy works by treating the cause of the disease, with diet, herbs, exercise, and other various methods, not the symptoms of disease with medication. This involves lifestyle changes. I don't think anyone is saying that you are not welcome here, but, like myself, are wondering what you are looking for. This is not a list where you will find a quick fix for all that ails you, but instead the focus is on long-term health.

 

My advice to you is this - Email Doc off-list and order his tape. His email is at the bottom of each e-mail. You can take baby steps. Every little thing you do to better your health is a step in the right direction. It really does start with the basics, treating yourself from the inside out. It's not easy, but it can be done - and the rewards are wonderful.

 

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I was trying to find a better way to live ect. But I think I'm going to have to find another way. I'm not sure my thinking belongs here.

 

ChristyLisa Belcher <lisabelcher wrote:

 

Christy, I've been following your postings, and I'm wondering WHY you are on this list?

 

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RE: Herbal Remedies - VITAL EMERGENCY ! ! ! - This concerns YOU ! ! !/ DEANNA & LAINIE

 

I guess medication/anti-depressants is a better word then drugs.Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington >^..^<ChristyYOUR VOTE YOUR VOICE!DON'T FORGET TO VOTE!

 

 

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So just to be clear you are saying "I wish someone would violate my civil rights and invade my privacy so that I can get some mind altering poison for free"? I have also crawled out from under massive depression and even psychosis WITHOUT medication. I know that the medication can make it seem like you are in a better place but in reality you are not dealing with your problems that got you there in the 1st place. If you want the whole grueling story I can email it to you off list or if there is anybody else out there that wants it, I will put it on list. It's not about meds, it's about dealing with life's crap.

 

 

Christy Wyrtzen [c29wyrtzen] Sunday, September 12, 2004 6:35 PMherbal remedies Subject: RE: Herbal Remedies - VITAL EMERGENCY ! ! ! - This concerns YOU ! ! !/ DEANNA & LAINIE

I guess medication/anti-depressants is a better word then drugs.

 

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I meant are you joking about wanting the drugs?

 

 

Christy Wyrtzen [c29wyrtzen] Sunday, September 12, 2004 10:47 AMherbal remedies Subject: RE: Herbal Remedies - VITAL EMERGENCY ! ! ! - This concerns YOU ! ! !/ DEANNA & LAINIE

 

NO. A alot of these studies give out free medication. I am desperate.

 

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Ummm, are you joking?

 

 

Christy Wyrtzen [c29wyrtzen] Saturday, September 11, 2004 2:17 PMherbal remedies Subject: RE: Herbal Remedies - VITAL EMERGENCY ! ! ! - This concerns YOU ! ! !/ DEANNA & LAINIE

I wish someone would screen me. Maybe I can get free drugs! I was perscribed Lexipro for depression. It works. My head was in a much better place. But my copay went up and I can't afford it. I tried St John's Wort but it didn't work. Now my depression and anxiety are really bad. But I can't afford the drugs.

 

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That's what they said about vaccinations too.Imagine it through the Eli Lily's eyes. Chicago is screening a masspopulation for new customers.If they find any, do you think they would offer herbal remedies along sidewith the legal drugs? Would they even mention Naturopathic avenues? It iswidely known that if the success rate of pharmo's were a grade in school,they would be failing. But this is not about helping people, it's aboutfinding another cash cow.Cheerio,-ShelbyDeana [squeekyme]Saturday, September 11, 2004 11:28 AMherbal remedies Subject: Re: Herbal Remedies - VITAL EMERGENCY ! ! ! - This concerns YOU! ! !/ DEANNA & LAINIEOK from what I am reading and read at the washington site. it is to helppeople that have disabilities.DeanaOstrowski wrote:> Deanna./ Lainie..Here is some info on this . With all laws/ initiatives> being introduced the view to look at it from is - what does this law> open> the door to. Hope this helps.>> We are not a political list here but something like this which can> take away> our choice as to whether or not we take drugs is of interest to this> group.> We are free to take action or not......Mary O>> July 16, 2004>>> Information Access>>>Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington >^..^<ChristyYOUR VOTE YOUR VOICE!DON'T FORGET TO VOTE!

 

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Express yourself with Y! Messenger! Free. Download now. Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

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We are all about helping people help themselves. If you are dedicated to the drugs and the junk food then I'm sorry but there is nothing we can do for you. If you are interested in a real life change and being free from the vicious cycle then you have come to the right place. It's your decision, and I mean that in the most clear sense of the word. It is not a choice that is made for you by your surroundings, this is something in which you have complete control.

 

 

Christy Wyrtzen [c29wyrtzen] Monday, September 13, 2004 2:32 AMherbal remedies Subject: Re: Herbal Remedies - VITAL EMERGENCY ! ! ! - This concerns YOU ! ! !/ DEANNA & LAINIE

I was trying to find a better way to live ect. But I think I'm going to have to find another way. I'm not sure my thinking belongs here.

 

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Christy, I've been following your postings, and I'm wondering WHY you are on this list?

 

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I guess medication/anti-depressants is a better word then drugs.Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington >^..^<ChristyYOUR VOTE YOUR VOICE!DON'T FORGET TO VOTE!

 

 

Mail is new and improved - Check it out! Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

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