Guest guest Posted August 25, 2004 Report Share Posted August 25, 2004 My son is geeting eczma around his nose and the doctor gave us some cream which helps but hasnt stopped it re occuring I dont think it is diet related but are trying to isolate the timing of the outbreaks by using a food diary Any ideas on some natural/herbal treatments Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2004 Report Share Posted August 25, 2004 did you vaccinate?? elizabeth - isen_bran herbal remedies Wednesday, August 25, 2004 1:22 AM Herbal Remedies - Eczma - 9mth old baby My son is geeting eczma around his nose and the doctor gave us some cream which helps but hasnt stopped it re occuringI dont think it is diet related but are trying to isolate the timing of the outbreaks by using a food diaryAny ideas on some natural/herbal treatmentsThanksFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2004 Report Share Posted August 25, 2004 herbal treatments won't help you if you don't get rid of the food. does your sone eat wheat/barley/rye, or, if you're nursing, do you? the most likely thing is gluten intolerance. if he's lactose intolerant, getting the gluten out of his diet will resolve that. if he eats corn or soy, that will also cause trouble. keep in mind that gluten skin reactions can take as much as 120 days to *fully* heal, because the toxins get stuck in the cells and need to die off before the healing can finish up. it would be better to avoid the creams that the doctor gave you, since they're steroidal, and they're only helping the symptoms anyway, not the actual problem. instead just get some unrefined coconut oil, some high quality lanolin (lansinoh), and some calendula oil, and mix together in the blender until " creamy " (just the same as if you were making mayo. the coconut oil will be the majority ingredient.) use this liberally - it will keep it from itching for him, and will keep the skin hydrated and healing so that there's no chance of scarring. holler if you need more help, katja At 01:22 AM 8/25/2004, you wrote: >My son is geeting eczma around his nose and the doctor gave us some >cream which helps but hasnt stopped it re occuring > >I dont think it is diet related but are trying to isolate the timing >of the outbreaks by using a food diary > >Any ideas on some natural/herbal treatments > >Thanks > > > > > >Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: >1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. >2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural >remedy. >3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and to >prescribe for your own health. >We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as >they behave themselves. >Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person >following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. >It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from >list members, you are agreeing to >be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and >members free of any liability. > >Dr. Ian Shillington >Doctor of Naturopathy >Dr.IanShillington > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2004 Report Share Posted August 25, 2004 Hi I have found this very interessting my 9 month old also has eczma it is very very bad he has had it sience he was a few weeks old. My son is lactose intolerant I dont know about the whet and rys as he does eat baby rice but I dont see that it has and of that in it. He dosnt eat corn. Where would I get this cocconut oil that you say to mix up? I have put elidel on hisface sience he was a mointh old and the problem never has cleared up it just keeps it from getting infected, here recently the doc gave him a steriod cream and it hasnt helped either he still scratches and makes it bleed and it just looks awful. Any other ideas? Scarlettkatja <katja wrote: herbal treatments won't help you if you don't get rid of the food. does your sone eat wheat/barley/rye, or, if you're nursing, do you? the most likely thing is gluten intolerance. if he's lactose intolerant, getting the gluten out of his diet will resolve that. if he eats corn or soy, that will also cause trouble.keep in mind that gluten skin reactions can take as much as 120 days to *fully* heal, because the toxins get stuck in the cells and need to die off before the healing can finish up. it would be better to avoid the creams that the doctor gave you, since they're steroidal, and they're only helping the symptoms anyway, not the actual problem. instead just get some unrefined coconut oil, some high quality lanolin (lansinoh), and some calendula oil, and mix together in the blender until "creamy" (just the same as if you were making mayo. the coconut oil will be the majority ingredient.) use this liberally - it will keep it from itching for him, and will keep the skin hydrated and healing so that there's no chance of scarring.holler if you need more help,katjaAt 01:22 AM 8/25/2004, you wrote:>My son is geeting eczma around his nose and the doctor gave us some>cream which helps but hasnt stopped it re occuring>>I dont think it is diet related but are trying to isolate the timing>of the outbreaks by using a food diary>>Any ideas on some natural/herbal treatments>>Thanks>>>>>>Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following:>1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire.>2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural >remedy.>3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and to>prescribe for your own health.>We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as>they behave themselves.>Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person>following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk.>It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from >list members, you are agreeing to>be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and >members free of any liability.>>Dr. Ian Shillington>Doctor of Naturopathy>Dr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2004 Report Share Posted August 25, 2004 At 10:21 AM 8/25/2004, you wrote: >Hi I have found this very interessting my 9 month old also has eczma it is >very very bad he has had it sience he was a few weeks old. My son is >lactose intolerant I dont know about the whet and rys as he does eat baby >rice but I dont see that it has and of that in it. He dosnt eat corn. >Where would I get this cocconut oil that you say to mix up? I have put >elidel on hisface sience he was a mointh old and the problem never has >cleared up it just keeps it from getting infected, here recently the doc >gave him a steriod cream and it hasnt helped either he still scratches and >makes it bleed and it just looks awful. >Any other ideas? > Scarlett the baby rice most likely does have gluten in it. why are you feeding him baby rice? he really doesn't need it - it's just empty calories. is he still nursing? are you eating wheat/barley/rye? do you give him teething biscuits? cheerios? does he have siblings? does he eat soy (or if you're nursing, do you?) if you're nursing, cut back to just meat, vegetables, and fruit for a while. if you're not nursing, and he gets formula, let me know and i can give you a recipe for a natural home made baby formula. the coconut oil you can get from www.wildernessfamilynaturals.com you can also feed it to him - especially if you're not nursing, this is a great source of lauric acid, which is the component in breast milk that boosts immunity. since it itches him, put socks on his hands to keep him from itching. you'll have to keep putting them on over and over again, but it will help nonetheless. you can use a poultice of plantain to try to stop the itching, or, if it's not too near his eyes, just plain old baking soda paste made with water. if he's agitated, remember chamomile tea - it's a sanity saver! -katja Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2004 Report Share Posted August 25, 2004 I have also heard that eczema treated allopathically is just driven deeper into the system and comes out later in life as asthma. Sharyn --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.744 / Virus Database: 496 - Release 8/24/2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2004 Report Share Posted August 25, 2004 At 01:23 PM 8/25/2004, you wrote: >I have also heard that eczema treated allopathically is just driven deeper >into the system and comes out later in life as asthma. > >Sharyn i have not heard that, however, asthma is noted as a " side effect " of undiagnosed celiac disease (gluten intolerance) - which is to say, that if you are gluten intolerant and you ignore it, asthma can result. so either way, seems your statement would be correct, since most eczema traces back to gluten intolerance or secondary sensitivities. if the sufferer merely treated the eczema topically, which is what most allopathic doctors are going to do, then the *cause* of the eczema is untreated and will result in further damage. another note is that allopathic doctors almost always treat eczema with steroids, which can really wreak havoc with a young system... -katja Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2004 Report Share Posted August 26, 2004 Elizabeth.... we did vaccinate......does this cause some issues Isen herbal remedies , " Elizabeth Elliott " <eliz3378@e...> wrote: > did you vaccinate?? > elizabeth > - > isen_bran > herbal remedies > Wednesday, August 25, 2004 1:22 AM > Herbal Remedies - Eczma - 9mth old baby > > > My son is geeting eczma around his nose and the doctor gave us some > cream which helps but hasnt stopped it re occuring > > I dont think it is diet related but are trying to isolate the timing > of the outbreaks by using a food diary > > Any ideas on some natural/herbal treatments > > Thanks > > > > > Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: > 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. > 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. > 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and to > prescribe for your own health. > We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as > they behave themselves. > Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person > following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. > It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to > be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. > > Dr. Ian Shillington > Doctor of Naturopathy > Dr.IanShillington@G... > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2004 Report Share Posted August 26, 2004 eczema is a side effect of vaccinations. - isen_bran herbal remedies Wednesday, August 25, 2004 7:46 PM Re: Herbal Remedies - Eczma - 9mth old baby Elizabeth....we did vaccinate......does this cause some issuesIsenherbal remedies , "Elizabeth Elliott" <eliz3378@e...> wrote:> did you vaccinate??> elizabeth> - > isen_bran > herbal remedies > Wednesday, August 25, 2004 1:22 AM> Herbal Remedies - Eczma - 9mth old baby> > > My son is geeting eczma around his nose and the doctor gave us some > cream which helps but hasnt stopped it re occuring> > I dont think it is diet related but are trying to isolate the timing > of the outbreaks by using a food diary> > Any ideas on some natural/herbal treatments> > Thanks> > > > > Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: > 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. > 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. > 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and to> prescribe for your own health. > We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as > they behave themselves. > Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person > following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. > It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to > be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. > > Dr. Ian Shillington> Doctor of Naturopathy> Dr.IanShillington@G... > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2004 Report Share Posted August 26, 2004 Yes, definitely. Vaccines (aside from themselves being a poison injected into the body) contain a host of ingredients that are also toxic to the body, including mercury. And young babies these days are injected with 20-30 vaccines in the first couple of years of life, just as a matter of course. Do a google search on vaccination side-effects. Or, if you want to start with some quick links, here is my links page on my web site....it's mostly to do with dogs (as my children are grown), but the information is valid for both. The vaccination links are at the bottom of the page. http://mysite.verizon.net/vze1y2ja/id2.html And please know that, no matter what you pediatrician or your local school authorities say, there is no LAW stating that children MUST be vaccinated. There is a link on my site on how to legally avoid vaccinations of all kinds. And it goes without saying that your child should never be vaccinated again. Sharyn isen_bran [isen_bran] we did vaccinate......does this cause some issues --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.744 / Virus Database: 496 - Release 8/24/2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2004 Report Share Posted August 26, 2004 My first son was vaccinated and had eczma but not as bad as my baby the baby has has the first two sets of shots, but he will have no more as I have learned sience that my 3 year old is Autistic and I believe more than anythign this caused it. Can that have a link to Eczma? Scarlettisen_bran <isen_bran wrote: Elizabeth....we did vaccinate......does this cause some issuesIsenherbal remedies , "Elizabeth Elliott" <eliz3378@e...> wrote:> did you vaccinate??> elizabeth> - > isen_bran > herbal remedies > Wednesday, August 25, 2004 1:22 AM> Herbal Remedies - Eczma - 9mth old baby> > > My son is geeting eczma around his nose and the doctor gave us some > cream which helps but hasnt stopped it re occuring> > I dont think it is diet related but are trying to isolate the timing > of the outbreaks by using a food diary> > Any ideas on some natural/herbal treatments> > Thanks> > > > > Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: > 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. > 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. > 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and to> prescribe for your own health. > We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as > they behave themselves. > Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person > following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. > It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to > be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. > > Dr. Ian Shillington> Doctor of Naturopathy> Dr.IanShillington@G... > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2004 Report Share Posted August 26, 2004 At 09:04 AM 8/26/2004, you wrote: >My first son was vaccinated and had eczma but not as bad as my baby the >baby has has the first two sets of shots, but he will have no more as I >have learned sience that my 3 year old is Autistic and I believe more than >anythign this caused it. Can that have a link to Eczma? > Scarlett autism, like eczema, is linked both to gluten ingestion and vaccines. my feeling is that when a person ingests poison - which both gluten (wheat, barley, rye) and vaccinations are - the body breaks down in a finite though large number of ways. these ways differ from person to person based on their other genes, their environment, their mental state, etc. so if i were you, get your family to be gluten free, also have your autistic child go casein free and see if that helps. also eat only organic food, avoid all soy, corn, all processed food, stop vaccinating, and try to live a " pure " life: ie, don't use household chemicals. use safecoat (www.healthyhome.com) to paint your house inside and out, use their products for any remodeling you are doing, use eco-friendly detergents, don't use fabric softener, don't go to the dentist unless you must, don't use flouride, don't get metal fillings - do anything you can to reduce the number of toxins around you. our bodies CAN filter out toxins, but only to a point. since there are some toxins that we just can't avoid (the air, for example), it's best to reduce as much as possible the ones you can avoid. however, if you can do nothing else, just stop vaccinating and go gluten free - this will make a huge difference. -katja Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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