Guest guest Posted August 20, 2004 Report Share Posted August 20, 2004 Hi all, This's my first day home with our newly-adopted German Shepherd. She's about 1-2 years old, we're not sure. According to her former foster mom, she had never had fleas. Today she was restless so we went on a few walks around the neighborhood. When we got back from our last one, I noticed what I'm now sure (after some quick research) was a flea crawling in her chest fur. I found a total of 2 after checking her several times. I did not see anything else, like the flea dirt or anything. I didn't see anything white, either, that would resemble any eggs. She also doesn't itch or have any sores. I think the 2 fleas that I found (and I picked them off and got rid of them!) had been picked up sometime today. My question is, what's y'all's advice? How can I be sure they're gone? I also have 2 cats (who have kept their distance, predictably). The dog has been in almost every room, and I vacuumed today. I checked the Files section but couldn't find anything on pet care (we should start something! Anyone got pet recipes or pet care tips?) so here I am. What do y'all recommend should be my next course of action! Replies on or off list are welcome. Thanks in advance!!! --Jen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2004 Report Share Posted August 20, 2004 The best defense against fleas is a healthy immune system. And the best way to do that is to feed a natural raw diet to your dog. (Cats, too, but that's not the question here, and cats are notoriously difficult to switch.) Fleas are parasites that live on unhealthy hosts....maybe the dog is not so unhealthy as to be visibly sick or have sores, but dogs fed kibble or any commercial dog food are not of prime health and are subject to flea infestations without chemical intervention. Here is my site (http://mysite.verizon.net/vze1y2ja/id2.html) that has links to other sites that discuss a natural raw diet for dogs (think what the dog would eat in the wild; certainly, the wolves aren't eating corn or wheat or making campfires to cook their kill). Do some research and feed your dog properly and she will thank you for it. My 3.5yo female Golden has been raw fed from birth and has never had a flea on her, nor any chemicals to prevent them. And we walk in the woods/parks every day. Sharyn supervixen08 [supervixen08] My question is, what's y'all's advice? How can I be sure they're gone? I also have 2 cats (who have kept their distance, predictably). --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.742 / Virus Database: 495 - Release 8/19/2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2004 Report Share Posted August 20, 2004 Just to jump in here. I've heard that giving a dog or cat yeast will get rid of fleas. Also, if you put vinegar in their water (2 T to a gallon), you should get rid of all bugs. They are not crazy about vinegar tasting blood. Kay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2004 Report Share Posted August 20, 2004 It's an awfully hot time of year to be putting that much vinegar in water. If your dogs aren't used to it they will likely not drink or drink far less than they should. Brewers' yeast has been shown effective in many cases (not all) and it does usually take a few weeks for it to work itself into the blood at a concentration that fleas don't like. This doesn't kill the fleas.. they will just jump off if they don't tolerate the "taste". So if there is a strong infestation outside, it can essentially help guarantee that the fleas will come in with your dog and then jump off in the house (resulting in everyone else become part of the buffet). So both of these methods may show promise, in some moderation, and with a reasonable idea of the expected success. Julie - Kay Fielding herbal remedies Friday, August 20, 2004 10:25 AM RE: Herbal Remedies - please help! new fleas on dog Just to jump in here. I've heard that giving a dog or cat yeast will get rid of fleas. Also, if you put vinegar in their water (2 T to a gallon), you should get rid of all bugs. They are not crazy about vinegar tasting blood. KayFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2004 Report Share Posted August 20, 2004 I don't know where she's located but I have a 4 year old dog that has been on raw diet since before birth. Additionally she receives the supplements as recommended by Pitcairn and her meat and vegetable sources have been organic. Let me assure you that in the lovely mountains of East Tennessee, fleas still find her to be VERY tasty! Thankfully she is a water loving breed and by taking her swimming everyday, the fleas jump ship and I have no other management issues. Julie - " Sharyn Cerniglia " <sharyn.cerniglia <herbal remedies > Friday, August 20, 2004 9:42 AM RE: Herbal Remedies - please help! new fleas on dog > The best defense against fleas is a healthy immune system. And the best way > to do that is to feed a natural raw diet to your dog. (Cats, too, but > that's not the question here, and cats are notoriously difficult to switch.) > Fleas are parasites that live on unhealthy hosts....maybe the dog is not so > unhealthy as to be visibly sick or have sores, but dogs fed kibble or any > commercial dog food are not of prime health and are subject to flea > infestations without chemical intervention. > > Here is my site (http://mysite.verizon.net/vze1y2ja/id2.html) that has links > to other sites that discuss a natural raw diet for dogs (think what the dog > would eat in the wild; certainly, the wolves aren't eating corn or wheat or > making campfires to cook their kill). Do some research and feed your dog > properly and she will thank you for it. My 3.5yo female Golden has been raw > fed from birth and has never had a flea on her, nor any chemicals to prevent > them. And we walk in the woods/parks every day. > > Sharyn > > > supervixen08 [supervixen08] > > My question is, what's y'all's advice? How can I be sure they're gone? I > also have 2 cats (who have kept their distance, predictably). > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.742 / Virus Database: 495 - Release 8/19/2004 Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: > 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. > 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. > 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and to > prescribe for your own health. > We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as > they behave themselves. > Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person > following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. > It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to > be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. > > Dr. Ian Shillington > Doctor of Naturopathy > Dr.IanShillington > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2004 Report Share Posted August 20, 2004 You'll probably also get an itchy dog. But the vinegar suggestion is good. Just make sure it's organic raw apple cider vinegar (Braggs is good) with the "mother" at the bottom of the jar. Sharyn Kay Fielding [berners] Just to jump in here. I've heard that giving a dog or cat yeast will get rid of fleas. Also, if you put vinegar in their water (2 T to a gallon), you should get rid of all bugs. They are not crazy about vinegar tasting blood. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.742 / Virus Database: 495 - Release 8/19/2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2004 Report Share Posted August 20, 2004 Weird, Julie....I've not heard of a raw fed dog who still got fleas. Just goes to show -- there's an exception to everything!<G> Sharyn Julie Hensley [julie] Let me assure you that in the lovely mountains of East Tennessee, fleas still find her to be VERY tasty! --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.742 / Virus Database: 495 - Release 8/19/2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2004 Report Share Posted August 20, 2004 Well its a very moist humid area here.. so perhaps the population is that much greater. I've had dogs on raw diet for about 8 years and can't say that I've ever seen one on raw diet that didn't get fleas (without other management)... whether the dogs were mine or others. - " Sharyn Cerniglia " <sharyn.cerniglia <herbal remedies > Friday, August 20, 2004 11:16 AM RE: Herbal Remedies - please help! new fleas on dog > Weird, Julie....I've not heard of a raw fed dog who still got fleas. Just > goes to show -- there's an exception to everything!<G> > > Sharyn > > > Julie Hensley [julie] > > Let me assure you that in the lovely mountains of East Tennessee, fleas > still find her to be VERY tasty! > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.742 / Virus Database: 495 - Release 8/19/2004 Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: > 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. > 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. > 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and to > prescribe for your own health. > We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as > they behave themselves. > Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person > following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. > It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to > be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. > > Dr. Ian Shillington > Doctor of Naturopathy > Dr.IanShillington > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2004 Report Share Posted August 20, 2004 I've heard that rosemary helps to repel them. I've never had fleas on my dogs so I don't know for sure. And I feed them lamb/rice "kibble".... My cats have never had fleas either. Michelle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2004 Report Share Posted August 20, 2004 Thanks Michelle.. that is a new one and I love rosemary.. any suggestions on how to use it? ground it up dried as a powder? feed it to them? dust them with it? Julie - Michelle Snodgrass herbal remedies Friday, August 20, 2004 12:25 PM Re: Herbal Remedies - please help! new fleas on dog I've heard that rosemary helps to repel them. I've never had fleas on my dogs so I don't know for sure. And I feed them lamb/rice "kibble".... My cats have never had fleas either. Michelle Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2004 Report Share Posted August 20, 2004 Try spraying dog's bad with Eucalyptus Water. In cup of water put about five drops of Eucalyptus Essential Oil. Or you can use Peppermint Oil, or Rosemary Oil. Add some garlic powder to dogs food or have him swallows garlic powder capsule. Jasmina Michelle Snodgrass <michelle_cols_oh wrote: I've heard that rosemary helps to repel them. I've never had fleas on my dogs so I don't know for sure. And I feed them lamb/rice "kibble".... My cats have never had fleas either. Michelle Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2004 Report Share Posted August 20, 2004 From a book called "Save Our Planet" by Diane MacEachern, page 63: wash pets well with soap and warm water, dry them thoroughly, and use an herbal rinse made by adding one-half cup of fresh or dried rosemary to a quart of boiling water (steep 20 minutes, strain and allow to cool). Spray or sponge the herbal rinse evenly onto your pet and allow it to air dry. Do not towel down, as this will remove the residue. Make sure pets are dry before letting them outside. Hope that helps. Geez, I had a time digging that up...I have read so many things in the past few weeks it's hard to remember where I see what! LOL. Michelle Julie Hensley <julie wrote: Thanks Michelle.. that is a new one and I love rosemary.. any suggestions on how to use it? ground it up dried as a powder? feed it to them? dust them with it? Julie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2004 Report Share Posted August 21, 2004 herbal remedies , " supervixen08 " <supervixen08> wrote: > Hi all, > This's my first day home with our newly-adopted German Shepherd. > She's about 1-2 years old, we're not sure. According to her former > foster mom, she had never had fleas. > Today she was restless so we went on a few walks around the > neighborhood. When we got back from our last one, I noticed what I'm > now sure (after some quick research) was a flea crawling in her chest > fur. I found a total of 2 after checking her several times. I did not > see anything else, like the flea dirt or anything. I didn't see > anything white, either, that would resemble any eggs. She also > doesn't itch or have any sores. I think the 2 fleas that I found (and > I picked them off and got rid of them!) had been picked up sometime > today. > My question is, what's y'all's advice? How can I be sure they're > gone? I also have 2 cats (who have kept their distance, predictably). > The dog has been in almost every room, and I vacuumed today. I > checked the Files section but couldn't find anything on pet care (we > should start something! Anyone got pet recipes or pet care tips?) so > here I am. What do y'all recommend should be my next course of > action! Replies on or off list are welcome. > > Thanks in advance!!! > --Jen Fleas can come from anywhere. One or two is not a problem. Pick tehm off and crush them with your finger nail. Most commercial flea treatment are insectasides. They do a good job of killing the fleas, but do not prevent reinfection. The best thing I tried was a commercial liquid food additive from Petsmart. It was a combination of garlic and brewers yeast. Blood insects seem not to like the odor or the taste of blood that has the two in it. Another non-chemical way to kill fleas is with diamataseous earth. It is also called fullers earth. DE is also used in swimming pool filters. It kills by clogging the pores that the insect uses to breathe. You apply DE by dry washing your dog with it. It will leave a coating on the skin and fur. When a flea rubs itself against the skin it will be coated with DE. This is also a non-toxic way to kill fleas in carpeting. Hope this helps, James Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2004 Report Share Posted August 21, 2004 Hello Jen, I think I'll kick a little into this as well, why not.. LOL. I had flea problems and ran the entire gambit. Out here in Florida they tend to be almost a year round epidemic. What did I do that worked. 1st I started adding raw food to our pets diet, far more than the usually 2-3 times a week. See I eat all organically so raw organic canine food tends to get expensive. This did not handle it but it did improve it. 2nd I used Total Pet Nutrition with their food every day. Agian I saw even less fleas and sometimes none but they would always resurfice. So still no go. 3rd I heard about raw garlic on this list and added 1-3 average sized cloves to their morning meals every day. They absolutely hated it. I got more looking back at me from the bowl then I've ever had. But after about 1-2 weeks they started to ignore it and plow on since no matter what I alwys fed it when they were hungriest. Not the nicest way but definitely effective and in their best interest. This did it. As long as I had the above 3 steps in it was great, no fleas. 4.... 4? Yes... soon I ran into my wife or I being out of town and we couldn't easily get the organic meats as easily so we'd leave off for a week or two and then 3 sometimes. Fleas came back as I'd every now and again miss their garlic I'dd press their garlic so it mixed in with the food). So I got fleas coming back now and again. So I called my homeopathic vet and his assistant said, ACV. So I added the "braggs" orgnic ACV into their food bowel with their kibble and that worked wonders. 5 I still saw this coming back now and again if I wasn't on top of it so I caled again and the assistant said when you juice give the leftovers tot he dogfs in their food. After doing this for two weeks I haven't had to do anything as consistant as usual. It's like the did their own cleanse and now if I just hit them every now and again with ACV and garlic or some ground up veggie matter they keep going for weeks and even months now. I haven't seen the fleas and I think that if you have any 3 of the above going you'll do fine after really cleaning them out with vegetable fiber for about a week. That's my...... 5 cents. Love, Zebbers - supervixen08 herbal remedies Thursday, August 19, 2004 11:28 PM Herbal Remedies - please help! new fleas on dog Hi all, This's my first day home with our newly-adopted German Shepherd. She's about 1-2 years old, we're not sure. According to her former foster mom, she had never had fleas. Today she was restless so we went on a few walks around the neighborhood. When we got back from our last one, I noticed what I'm now sure (after some quick research) was a flea crawling in her chest fur. I found a total of 2 after checking her several times. I did not see anything else, like the flea dirt or anything. I didn't see anything white, either, that would resemble any eggs. She also doesn't itch or have any sores. I think the 2 fleas that I found (and I picked them off and got rid of them!) had been picked up sometime today. My question is, what's y'all's advice? How can I be sure they're gone? I also have 2 cats (who have kept their distance, predictably). The dog has been in almost every room, and I vacuumed today. I checked the Files section but couldn't find anything on pet care (we should start something! Anyone got pet recipes or pet care tips?) so here I am. What do y'all recommend should be my next course of action! Replies on or off list are welcome.Thanks in advance!!!--JenFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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