Guest guest Posted August 7, 2004 Report Share Posted August 7, 2004 Hello everyone, We just had some terrible news. My step-daughter tried to commit suicide last Thursday night. Her husband found her in bed with her wrists slit. He called the police and they locked her up in the hospital for a couple days. Now she's out and he's taking her to a naturopathic doctor( which she doesn't want to do). Our question is what is the ND likely to do for her? We are believers in natural methods, so we are thankful for Nathan(hubby). We are terrified that she doesn't want to live and as soon as she's left alone she will try again. What can we suggest to him to give her? Lisa C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2004 Report Share Posted August 7, 2004 Dear Lisa, She needs Dianetic auditing. Contact me off list and I'll help you on this. Love, Doc Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.727-738-0554DocShillington - Lisa Carter herbal remedies Friday, August 06, 2004 11:44 PM Herbal Remedies - Suicide and naturopathics Hello everyone,We just had some terrible news. My step-daughter tried to commit suicide last Thursday night. Her husband found her in bed with her wrists slit. He called the police and they locked her up in the hospital for a couple days. Now she's out and he's taking her to a naturopathic doctor( which she doesn't want to do). Our question is what is the ND likely to do for her? We are believers in natural methods, so we are thankful for Nathan(hubby). We are terrified that she doesn't want to live and as soon as she's left alone she will try again. What can we suggest to him to give her?Lisa C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2004 Report Share Posted August 7, 2004 Hey Lisa OUCH! Been there and understand her pain. It would be a good idea to have her thyroid and adrenal functions checked. There is a slew of info out there regarding low thyroid and tired/fatigued adrenals and how they cause so many emotional issues for people, esp women. Unfortunately, like many things, the medical community is not totally on board. They may test for thyroid and find it "normal" but her symptoms could indicate that they are not normal. Ok. that is enough for a start. Being one who has struggled with depression and suicidal thoughts/gestures for years, I have done all I know how to do to find "freedom" from that madness. LONG ROAD to recovery as it does involve physical, emotional, social AND spiritual! ;o) Email me off line if you would like so we will not get too far OT kclark Karen in VA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2004 Report Share Posted August 7, 2004 I know how absolutely depressed I get when I'm constipated and full of toxins. I'd clean out her colon and liver but that's just me. I'm just a herbal baby. Candace - " Lisa Carter " <randasmommy2003 <herbal remedies > Friday, August 06, 2004 10:44 PM Herbal Remedies - Suicide and naturopathics > Hello everyone, > We just had some terrible news. My step-daughter tried to commit > suicide last Thursday night. Her husband found her in bed with her > wrists slit. He called the police and they locked her up in the > hospital for a couple days. Now she's out and he's taking her to a > naturopathic doctor( which she doesn't want to do). Our question is > what is the ND likely to do for her? We are believers in natural > methods, so we are thankful for Nathan(hubby). We are terrified that > she doesn't want to live and as soon as she's left alone she will try > again. What can we suggest to him to give her? > > Lisa C. > > > > > > Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: > 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. > 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. > 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and to > prescribe for your own health. > We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as > they behave themselves. > Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person > following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. > It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to > be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. > > Dr. Ian Shillington > Doctor of Naturopathy > Dr.IanShillington > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2004 Report Share Posted August 7, 2004 yes, i had also thought about the liver and colon but figured someone else would cover that topic... oh, how intricate our systems are....;o) - meaning that there are so many "causes" for depression that require an eclectic approach to healing.... - Candace Podratz herbal remedies Saturday, August 07, 2004 11:02 AM Re: Herbal Remedies - Suicide and naturopathics I know how absolutely depressed I get when I'm constipated and full oftoxins. I'd clean out her colon and liver but that's just me. I'm just aherbal baby.Candace- "Lisa Carter" <randasmommy2003<herbal remedies >Friday, August 06, 2004 10:44 PMHerbal Remedies - Suicide and naturopathics> Hello everyone,> We just had some terrible news. My step-daughter tried to commit> suicide last Thursday night. Her husband found her in bed with her> wrists slit. He called the police and they locked her up in the> hospital for a couple days. Now she's out and he's taking her to a> naturopathic doctor( which she doesn't want to do). Our question is> what is the ND likely to do for her? We are believers in natural> methods, so we are thankful for Nathan(hubby). We are terrified that> she doesn't want to live and as soon as she's left alone she will try> again. What can we suggest to him to give her?>> Lisa C.>>>>>> Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following:> 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire.> 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any naturalremedy.> 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician andto> prescribe for your own health.> We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as longas> they behave themselves.> Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and anyperson> following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk.> It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products fromlist members, you are agreeing to> be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner andmembers free of any liability.>> Dr. Ian Shillington> Doctor of Naturopathy> Dr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2004 Report Share Posted August 7, 2004 on another list, i just read that low magnesium causes depression... and toxic livers and low thyroid and low progesterone and unforgiveness and resentment and fear and...and...and.... see? oh so many many approaches. like anything we simply have to "keep trying on the shoe" until we find the one that truly fits our bodies! *smile* - Candace Podratz herbal remedies Saturday, August 07, 2004 11:02 AM Re: Herbal Remedies - Suicide and naturopathics I know how absolutely depressed I get when I'm constipated and full oftoxins. I'd clean out her colon and liver but that's just me. I'm just aherbal baby.Candace- "Lisa Carter" <randasmommy2003<herbal remedies >Friday, August 06, 2004 10:44 PMHerbal Remedies - Suicide and naturopathics> Hello everyone,> We just had some terrible news. My step-daughter tried to commit> suicide last Thursday night. Her husband found her in bed with her> wrists slit. He called the police and they locked her up in the> hospital for a couple days. Now she's out and he's taking her to a> naturopathic doctor( which she doesn't want to do). Our question is> what is the ND likely to do for her? We are believers in natural> methods, so we are thankful for Nathan(hubby). We are terrified that> she doesn't want to live and as soon as she's left alone she will try> again. What can we suggest to him to give her?>> Lisa C.>>>>>> Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following:> 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire.> 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any naturalremedy.> 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician andto> prescribe for your own health.> We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as longas> they behave themselves.> Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and anyperson> following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk.> It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products fromlist members, you are agreeing to> be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner andmembers free of any liability.>> Dr. Ian Shillington> Doctor of Naturopathy> Dr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2004 Report Share Posted August 7, 2004 I would get her into Al-Anon immediately. A great majority of suicides have a direct link to growing up in an alcoholic/addictive home. At the same time, you can address the chemical imbalances, e.g. the pancreatic and serotonin challenges, in a holistic manner with a naturopath. herbal remedies , " Lisa Carter " <randasmommy2003> wrote: > Hello everyone, > We just had some terrible news. My step-daughter tried to commit > suicide last Thursday night. Her husband found her in bed with her > wrists slit. He called the police and they locked her up in the > hospital for a couple days. Now she's out and he's taking her to a > naturopathic doctor( which she doesn't want to do). Our question is > what is the ND likely to do for her? We are believers in natural > methods, so we are thankful for Nathan(hubby). We are terrified that > she doesn't want to live and as soon as she's left alone she will try > again. What can we suggest to him to give her? > > Lisa C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2004 Report Share Posted August 7, 2004 Thanks Karen, She is only 22 and just finished Massage Therapy school in Oregon. Iknow that she is aware of natural methods because her teachers were all NDs and Acupuncturists. However she refuses to adopt better nutrition and eats only junk food:( I will talk to her hubby and let him know about the thyroid. They are struggling spiritually and that is what is screaming at me in the back of my head. I have e-mailed you off list so we can continue this discussion there:) Lisa herbal remedies , " Karen " <kclark@r...> wrote: > Hey Lisa > > OUCH! Been there and understand her pain. > > It would be a good idea to have her thyroid and adrenal functions checked. There is a slew of info out there regarding low thyroid and tired/fatigued adrenals and how they cause so many emotional issues for people, esp women. Unfortunately, like many things, the medical community is not totally on board. They may test for thyroid and find it " normal " but her symptoms could indicate that they are not normal. > > Ok. that is enough for a start. Being one who has struggled with depression and suicidal thoughts/gestures for years, I have done all I know how to do to find " freedom " from that madness. LONG ROAD to recovery as it does involve physical, emotional, social AND spiritual! ;o) > > Email me off line if you would like so we will not get too far OT > > kclark@r... > > Karen in VA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2004 Report Share Posted August 7, 2004 Thanks Candace, I wish she would do a cleanse, but this girl is a long time junk food junkie. She also is not talking to me right now. I'm not alone though, she has shut out everyone except those that don't 'threaten' her. I'm definately on the threatening list:) She knows I will tell it like it is. It may be better that we don't talk right now. I wouldn't want to push her while she's so delicate. Anyway, I'll talk to hubby about it. He's non-threatening:) Lisa C. herbal remedies , " Candace Podratz " <CandaceAndBrock@w...> wrote: > I know how absolutely depressed I get when I'm constipated and full of > toxins. I'd clean out her colon and liver but that's just me. I'm just a > herbal baby. > > Candace > > - > " Lisa Carter " <randasmommy2003> > <herbal remedies > > Friday, August 06, 2004 10:44 PM > Herbal Remedies - Suicide and naturopathics > > > > Hello everyone, > > We just had some terrible news. My step-daughter tried to commit > > suicide last Thursday night. Her husband found her in bed with her > > wrists slit. He called the police and they locked her up in the > > hospital for a couple days. Now she's out and he's taking her to a > > naturopathic doctor( which she doesn't want to do). Our question is > > what is the ND likely to do for her? We are believers in natural > > methods, so we are thankful for Nathan(hubby). We are terrified that > > she doesn't want to live and as soon as she's left alone she will try > > again. What can we suggest to him to give her? > > > > Lisa C. > > > > > > > > > > > > Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: > > 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. > > 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural > remedy. > > 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and > to > > prescribe for your own health. > > We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long > as > > they behave themselves. > > Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any > person > > following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. > > It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from > list members, you are agreeing to > > be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and > members free of any liability. > > > > Dr. Ian Shillington > > Doctor of Naturopathy > > Dr.IanShillington@G... > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2004 Report Share Posted August 8, 2004 Yeah, besides my constipation and toxins in my system it was my inability to cope and handle stress that had me suicidal and al-anon helped ME a lot. I was going to suggest it earlier but wasn't sure if she was in that type of environment. Candace - " pixiepie2003 " <pixiepie2003 <herbal remedies > Saturday, August 07, 2004 10:29 AM Herbal Remedies - Re: Suicide and naturopathics > I would get her into Al-Anon immediately. A great majority of > suicides have a direct link to growing up in an alcoholic/addictive > home. At the same time, you can address the chemical > imbalances, e.g. the pancreatic and serotonin challenges, in a > holistic manner with a naturopath. > > > herbal remedies , " Lisa Carter " > <randasmommy2003> wrote: > > Hello everyone, > > We just had some terrible news. My step-daughter tried to > commit > > suicide last Thursday night. Her husband found her in bed > with her > > wrists slit. He called the police and they locked her up in the > > hospital for a couple days. Now she's out and he's taking her > to a > > naturopathic doctor( which she doesn't want to do). Our > question is > > what is the ND likely to do for her? We are believers in natural > > methods, so we are thankful for Nathan(hubby). We are > terrified that > > she doesn't want to live and as soon as she's left alone she > will try > > again. What can we suggest to him to give her? > > > > Lisa C. > > > > > > Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: > 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. > 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. > 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and to > prescribe for your own health. > We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as > they behave themselves. > Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person > following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. > It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to > be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. > > Dr. Ian Shillington > Doctor of Naturopathy > Dr.IanShillington > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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