Guest guest Posted August 5, 2004 Report Share Posted August 5, 2004 Just curious as to why the cold sheet treatment would be considered harmful? Just too traumatic? Sure looks traumatic to watch on the video! I guess if I had a real experienced person doing it to me I'd feel ok. Not something I'd want to do with an amateur! Maybe they decided it's just one of those things you shouldn't try at home? Gloria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2004 Report Share Posted August 7, 2004 Schulze and Biser had a BIG falling out (a battle of egos) and went their separate ways permanently (just short of a legal battle from what I hear). Biser is now pushing drinking (booze) as being healthful and Schulze is slam dunking all major religions (blamed the entirety of 9/11 on Religion) and even bashed the Mormons (the religion of his mentor Dr. Christopher). There wasn't any baby after the bath water ;o) And I personally disconnected from both of them and never refer people to them anymore. If you can get your hands on the original "Save Your Life" collection, it would be worth it. Otherwise my advice is to stay clear. Love, Doc Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.727-738-0554DocShillington - MorningGlory113 herbal remedies Thursday, August 05, 2004 12:05 PM Re: Herbal Remedies - Schulze or Day success? I don't know what happened between Schulze and Biser, but I am curious as to what Biser's new Resurrection course is like. Have you read it? It seems to me that Biser is very committed to uncovering just what works and what doesn't, and even if he is a jerk personally (who knows??), I have the impression that he would put out information that he feels is sound and valid. Don't want to throw out the baby with the bathwater;-)Gloria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2004 Report Share Posted August 7, 2004 I've done many of them on patients and they are extremely traumatic from a mental viewpoint. People just don't come through them as mentally alert as they should. After all they are physically painful, and my view is that sick people hurt enough as it is. There are much easier ways of creating a false fever (the main purpose of the Cold Sheet Treatment), including Hot baths and Saunas (my preferrence). Just remember to drink lots of diaphoretic teas when in one of these so that the body doesn't dehydrate. Love, Doc Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.727-738-0554DocShillington - rstefdc herbal remedies Thursday, August 05, 2004 2:17 PM Re: Herbal Remedies - Schulze or Day success? Just curious as to why the cold sheet treatment would be considered harmful? Just too traumatic? Doc or anyone? Thanks.herbal remedies , "Doc Shillington" <DocShillington@V...> wrote:> Yes! Since doing the lecture series back in the early 90's they've both gone looney.> > Schulze has gone anti religion and Biser has gone anti everthing but Biser. He had a falling out with Schulze about 2 years ago, and has gone his won way since. Since then I've disconnected from the both of them. The "Save Your Life" video collection is no longer sold as-is which is a shame since it had excellent herbal data in it. The information on vitamins and meat is false and very incomplete.> > Things like the Cold Sheet Treatment are now antiquated and actually traumatic, and should not be done, but the herbal data is Boss.> > Love,> > Doc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2004 Report Share Posted August 7, 2004 Yeah, usually only one big ego will fit into a room. I wondered how those two got along enough to make videos together. I have the Save Your Life videos (not the manual, haven't been able to get my hands on it) and I was thinking of selling them because we're hurting for cash. I'm glad some one brought up this topic, I hadn't realized they stopped selling them. Guess I'll be keeping mine and selling some of DH's things. Haaaaaaaaa ha ha ha ha Candace - Doc Shillington herbal remedies Friday, August 06, 2004 7:51 PM Re: Herbal Remedies - Schulze or Day success? Schulze and Biser had a BIG falling out (a battle of egos) and went their separate ways permanently (just short of a legal battle from what I hear). Biser is now pushing drinking (booze) as being healthful and Schulze is slam dunking all major religions (blamed the entirety of 9/11 on Religion) and even bashed the Mormons (the religion of his mentor Dr. Christopher). There wasn't any baby after the bath water ;o) And I personally disconnected from both of them and never refer people to them anymore. If you can get your hands on the original "Save Your Life" collection, it would be worth it. Otherwise my advice is to stay clear. Love, Doc Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.727-738-0554DocShillington - MorningGlory113 herbal remedies Thursday, August 05, 2004 12:05 PM Re: Herbal Remedies - Schulze or Day success? I don't know what happened between Schulze and Biser, but I am curious as to what Biser's new Resurrection course is like. Have you read it? It seems to me that Biser is very committed to uncovering just what works and what doesn't, and even if he is a jerk personally (who knows??), I have the impression that he would put out information that he feels is sound and valid. Don't want to throw out the baby with the bathwater;-)GloriaFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2004 Report Share Posted August 7, 2004 I wondered about that; During the videos I believe he said it can be very mentally traumatic for people and I wondered why. I wonder why he isn't honest and doesn't just SAY it's painful. In one of his newsletters a lady wrote in who kicked cancer through Schulze's incurables program and she described the wet sheet treatment as getting into a bathtub with herbal piranhas (sp?). Candace - Doc Shillington herbal remedies Friday, August 06, 2004 7:55 PM Re: Herbal Remedies - Schulze or Day success? I've done many of them on patients and they are extremely traumatic from a mental viewpoint. People just don't come through them as mentally alert as they should. After all they are physically painful, and my view is that sick people hurt enough as it is. There are much easier ways of creating a false fever (the main purpose of the Cold Sheet Treatment), including Hot baths and Saunas (my preferrence). Just remember to drink lots of diaphoretic teas when in one of these so that the body doesn't dehydrate. Love, Doc Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.727-738-0554DocShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2004 Report Share Posted August 9, 2004 Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.727-738-0554DocShillington - Candace Podratz herbal remedies Saturday, August 07, 2004 10:56 AM Re: Herbal Remedies - Schulze or Day success? Yeah, usually only one big ego will fit into a room. I wondered how those two got along enough to make videos together. I have the Save Your Life videos (not the manual, haven't been able to get my hands on it) and I was thinking of selling them because we're hurting for cash. I'm glad some one brought up this topic, I hadn't realized they stopped selling them. Guess I'll be keeping mine and selling some of DH's things. Haaaaaaaaa ha ha ha ha Candace - Doc Shillington herbal remedies Friday, August 06, 2004 7:51 PM Re: Herbal Remedies - Schulze or Day success? Schulze and Biser had a BIG falling out (a battle of egos) and went their separate ways permanently (just short of a legal battle from what I hear). Biser is now pushing drinking (booze) as being healthful and Schulze is slam dunking all major religions (blamed the entirety of 9/11 on Religion) and even bashed the Mormons (the religion of his mentor Dr. Christopher). There wasn't any baby after the bath water ;o) And I personally disconnected from both of them and never refer people to them anymore. If you can get your hands on the original "Save Your Life" collection, it would be worth it. Otherwise my advice is to stay clear. Love, Doc Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.727-738-0554DocShillington - MorningGlory113 herbal remedies Thursday, August 05, 2004 12:05 PM Re: Herbal Remedies - Schulze or Day success? I don't know what happened between Schulze and Biser, but I am curious as to what Biser's new Resurrection course is like. Have you read it? It seems to me that Biser is very committed to uncovering just what works and what doesn't, and even if he is a jerk personally (who knows??), I have the impression that he would put out information that he feels is sound and valid. Don't want to throw out the baby with the bathwater;-)GloriaFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2004 Report Share Posted August 9, 2004 Actually the manual is worth just as much as the videos, and there's data in there that is no where else. See if you can get the manual on eBay if you can. It's worth it. They produced one other double VCR set after that collection called the "Ten Top Herbs" that was OK (very incomplete), but the rest after that were junk and a competition of egos. Keep the one's you have hon. Love, Doc Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.727-738-0554DocShillington - Candace Podratz herbal remedies Saturday, August 07, 2004 10:56 AM Re: Herbal Remedies - Schulze or Day success? Yeah, usually only one big ego will fit into a room. I wondered how those two got along enough to make videos together. I have the Save Your Life videos (not the manual, haven't been able to get my hands on it) and I was thinking of selling them because we're hurting for cash. I'm glad some one brought up this topic, I hadn't realized they stopped selling them. Guess I'll be keeping mine and selling some of DH's things. Haaaaaaaaa ha ha ha ha Candace - Doc Shillington herbal remedies Friday, August 06, 2004 7:51 PM Re: Herbal Remedies - Schulze or Day success? Schulze and Biser had a BIG falling out (a battle of egos) and went their separate ways permanently (just short of a legal battle from what I hear). Biser is now pushing drinking (booze) as being healthful and Schulze is slam dunking all major religions (blamed the entirety of 9/11 on Religion) and even bashed the Mormons (the religion of his mentor Dr. Christopher). There wasn't any baby after the bath water ;o) And I personally disconnected from both of them and never refer people to them anymore. If you can get your hands on the original "Save Your Life" collection, it would be worth it. Otherwise my advice is to stay clear. Love, Doc Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.727-738-0554DocShillington - MorningGlory113 herbal remedies Thursday, August 05, 2004 12:05 PM Re: Herbal Remedies - Schulze or Day success? I don't know what happened between Schulze and Biser, but I am curious as to what Biser's new Resurrection course is like. Have you read it? It seems to me that Biser is very committed to uncovering just what works and what doesn't, and even if he is a jerk personally (who knows??), I have the impression that he would put out information that he feels is sound and valid. Don't want to throw out the baby with the bathwater;-)GloriaFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2004 Report Share Posted August 9, 2004 It is most likely the false data, "No Pain - No Gain" which is a crock of doo doo. Herbal Piranhas is a good analogy. The idea is to heal oneself as painlessly as you can while making the necessary lifestyle changes, and the reality of it is, that a sauna actually works better than the cold sheet treatment. I mean, it is far superior when used with an herbal program. Far superior!!! Sure you have to go through some discomfort sometimes, but why intensify it if you don't have to??? This is why I've designed the Total Body Cleanse to be as painless as possible. Love, Doc Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.727-738-0554DocShillington - Candace Podratz herbal remedies Saturday, August 07, 2004 10:59 AM Re: Herbal Remedies - Schulze or Day success? I wondered about that; During the videos I believe he said it can be very mentally traumatic for people and I wondered why. I wonder why he isn't honest and doesn't just SAY it's painful. In one of his newsletters a lady wrote in who kicked cancer through Schulze's incurables program and she described the wet sheet treatment as getting into a bathtub with herbal piranhas (sp?). Candace - Doc Shillington herbal remedies Friday, August 06, 2004 7:55 PM Re: Herbal Remedies - Schulze or Day success? I've done many of them on patients and they are extremely traumatic from a mental viewpoint. People just don't come through them as mentally alert as they should. After all they are physically painful, and my view is that sick people hurt enough as it is. There are much easier ways of creating a false fever (the main purpose of the Cold Sheet Treatment), including Hot baths and Saunas (my preferrence). Just remember to drink lots of diaphoretic teas when in one of these so that the body doesn't dehydrate. Love, Doc Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.727-738-0554DocShillingtonFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2004 Report Share Posted August 9, 2004 This is why I've designed the Total Body Cleanse to be as painless as possible. I'll tell you what! It is fairly painless too. I am in the middle right now, and I have only had a headache but nothing else traumatic at all (except unless you look in the toilet after you drop something in). Then it can be traumatic! Oops! Was that too much information? Sorry! Kay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2004 Report Share Posted August 9, 2004 Too bad you couldn't do the same for Panther Piss! -Shelby Doc Shillington [DocShillington]Sunday, August 08, 2004 6:46 PMherbal remedies Subject: Re: Herbal Remedies - Schulze or Day success? It is most likely the false data, "No Pain - No Gain" which is a crock of doo doo. Herbal Piranhas is a good analogy. The idea is to heal oneself as painlessly as you can while making the necessary lifestyle changes, and the reality of it is, that a sauna actually works better than the cold sheet treatment. I mean, it is far superior when used with an herbal program. Far superior!!! Sure you have to go through some discomfort sometimes, but why intensify it if you don't have to??? This is why I've designed the Total Body Cleanse to be as painless as possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2004 Report Share Posted August 9, 2004 I have the Save Your Life videos (not the manual, haven't been able to get my hands on it) and The manual is HUGE (3 volumes) and very very good. I still read it and study it all the time. It has soooo much info in it, including all the different herbal formulas. I have often seen the course up for bid on Ebay. Just type in "Biser" or "Dr. Schulze". Gloria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2004 Report Share Posted August 9, 2004 I just found a 1996 "revised" version, that a good one? diane in nw mt - MorningGlory113 herbal remedies Monday, August 09, 2004 7:14 AM Re: Herbal Remedies - Schulze or Day success? I have the Save Your Life videos (not the manual, haven't been able to get my hands on it) and The manual is HUGE (3 volumes) and very very good. I still read it and study it all the time. It has soooo much info in it, including all the different herbal formulas. I have often seen the course up for bid on Ebay. Just type in "Biser" or "Dr. Schulze".GloriaFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2004 Report Share Posted August 9, 2004 I just found a 1996 "revised" version, that a good one? Mine says copyright 1995-2000. I think all they did was change the covers in the later ones. I'd say that 1996 one is fine. Gloria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2004 Report Share Posted August 10, 2004 hey great, Thanks! diane in nw mt - MorningGlory113 herbal remedies Monday, August 09, 2004 3:19 PM Re: Herbal Remedies - Schulze or Day success? I just found a 1996 "revised" version, that a good one?Mine says copyright 1995-2000. I think all they did was change the covers in the later ones. I'd say that 1996 one is fine.GloriaFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2004 Report Share Posted August 11, 2004 Hey! No complaints from the Peanut Gallery ROTFL. A lot of people like the taste of PP including me. I know a gal who drinks it in a champagne glass. Very elegant. Love, Doc PS. I take my PP in my Dragon Snot every morning so never have to take the taste straight. I actually like it that way. PPS. Q. What do you get when you mix Dragon Snot with Panther Piss??? A. A Shrek Shake. Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.727-738-0554DocShillington - Shelby Blakely herbal remedies Monday, August 09, 2004 1:54 AM RE: Herbal Remedies - Schulze or Day success? Too bad you couldn't do the same for Panther Piss! -Shelby Doc Shillington [DocShillington]Sunday, August 08, 2004 6:46 PMherbal remedies Subject: Re: Herbal Remedies - Schulze or Day success? It is most likely the false data, "No Pain - No Gain" which is a crock of doo doo. Herbal Piranhas is a good analogy. The idea is to heal oneself as painlessly as you can while making the necessary lifestyle changes, and the reality of it is, that a sauna actually works better than the cold sheet treatment. I mean, it is far superior when used with an herbal program. Far superior!!! Sure you have to go through some discomfort sometimes, but why intensify it if you don't have to??? This is why I've designed the Total Body Cleanse to be as painless as possible. Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2004 Report Share Posted August 11, 2004 Doc: Hey! No complaints from the Peanut Gallery ROTFL. A lot of people like the taste of PP including me. ------- Tammi: Yep, I like it, too. - I take mine drizzled on lettuce and tomato - kinda like a salad. --------- Doc: I know a gal who drinks it in a champagne glass. Very elegant. ----------- Tammi: Well, they say presentation is everything.... -------------- Doc: PPS. Q. What do you get when you mix Dragon Snot with Panther Piss??? A. A Shrek Shake. Tammi: Doc, you do realize that you've just entered the cheesy zone with that one - but it made me smile. Tammi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2004 Report Share Posted August 12, 2004 I think PP tastes great! I always said it would make a terrific salad dressing, because of it's potency, two tablespoons would do it. - In herbal remedies , " Doc Shillington " <DocShillington@V...> wrote: > Hey! No complaints from the Peanut Gallery ROTFL. > A lot of people like the taste of PP including me. > I know a gal who drinks it in a champagne glass. > Very elegant. > Love, > Doc > PS. I take my PP in my Dragon Snot every morning so never have to take the taste straight. I actually like it that way. > PPS. > Q. What do you get when you mix Dragon Snot with Panther Piss??? > A. A Shrek Shake. > > Ian " Doc " Shillington N.D. > 727-738-0554 > DocShillington@V... > - > Shelby Blakely > herbal remedies > Monday, August 09, 2004 1:54 AM > RE: Herbal Remedies - Schulze or Day success? > > > Too bad you couldn't do the same for Panther Piss! > -Shelby > > Doc Shillington [DocShillington@V...] > Sunday, August 08, 2004 6:46 PM > herbal remedies > Re: Herbal Remedies - Schulze or Day success? > > > It is most likely the false data, " No Pain - No Gain " which is a crock of doo doo. Herbal Piranhas is a good analogy. > The idea is to heal oneself as painlessly as you can while making the necessary lifestyle changes, and the reality of it is, that a sauna actually works better than the cold sheet treatment. I mean, it is far superior when used with an herbal program. Far superior!!! > Sure you have to go through some discomfort sometimes, but why intensify it if you don't have to??? > This is why I've designed the Total Body Cleanse to be as painless as possible. > > > > Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: > 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. > 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. > 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and to > prescribe for your own health. > We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as > they behave themselves. > Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person > following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. > It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to > be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. > > Dr. Ian Shillington > Doctor of Naturopathy > Dr.IanShillington@G... > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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