Illinois Mandatory Mental Health screening

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IL launches compulsory mental health screening for children and pregnant women

 

Monday, July 19, 2004

 

By The Leader-Chicago Bureau

 

 

 

 

 

CHICAGO -- This week, a series of public forums on a program requiring all pregnant women and children through age 18 years to be tested for mental health needs is being held this week in five different locations statewide.

One group of parents learned about the state's plans to proceed with this program and on Monday issued an alarm asking for parents and citizens concerned about the new program to voice their opinions at the forums.

"We're moving toward social training over academic training with this program," Larry Trainor, a Mt. Prospect parent of four children and a contact for Citizens Commission on Human Rights, based in Los Angeles, said today.

"Since psychiatric involvement in education, SAT scores have gone down for the past few decades. Evaluating mental conditions is not based on scientific evidence, it's subjective," he said.

The $10 million plan for the setup of the Children's Mental Health Act of 2003 is being considered at this week's public forums starting Monday, July 18 in Champaign.

Signed into law, the bill passed the Illinois General Assembly last spring, sponsored in the House by State Representatives Julie Hamos (D-Evanston) and Patricia Bellock (R-Westmont). State Senator Maggie Crotty (D-Oak Forest) and Susan Garrett (D-Highwood) shepherded the legislation through the Senate.

The legislation passed the House with a 107 to 5 vote, and the Senate unanimously.

"What if they find a student has a math disorder, a reading disorder. Would that be a mental health disorder, one that would cause the parents to put their children with a drug for a condition they may or may not have?" Trainor asked.

The mental health program will develop a mental health system for "all children ages 0-18 years," provide for screening to "ensure appropriate and culturally relevant assessment of young children's social and emotional development with the use of standardized tools."

Also, all pregnant women will be screened for depression and thereafter following her baby's birth, up to one year. Follow-up treatment services will also be provided.

Trainor said that he is trying to get parents and citizens out to voice their opinion about the new program.

Apparently, children's mental health will be assessed along with their academic standards in the new proposed testing. The Illinois State Board of Education has been given the responsibility to develop the appropriate tests, according to last year's legislation.

The Task Force hosting the public forums this week are to send a recommendation to Governor Blagojevich by the end of the summer, according to the Act (HB 2900).

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Holy Hell, here's just another way to take another jab at compulsory schooling. Like the people who run public schools know anything about mental health.

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Doc Shillington [DocShillington]Monday, July 26, 2004 8:43 AMherbal remediesHerbal Remedies - Illinois Mandatory Mental Health screening

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IL launches compulsory mental health screening for children and pregnant women

 

Monday, July 19, 2004

 

By The Leader-Chicago Bureau

 

 

 

 

 

CHICAGO -- This week, a series of public forums on a program requiring all pregnant women and children through age 18 years to be tested for mental health needs is being held this week in five different locations statewide.

One group of parents learned about the state's plans to proceed with this program and on Monday issued an alarm asking for parents and citizens concerned about the new program to voice their opinions at the forums.

"We're moving toward social training over academic training with this program," Larry Trainor, a Mt. Prospect parent of four children and a contact for Citizens Commission on Human Rights, based in Los Angeles, said today.

"Since psychiatric involvement in education, SAT scores have gone down for the past few decades. Evaluating mental conditions is not based on scientific evidence, it's subjective," he said.

The $10 million plan for the setup of the Children's Mental Health Act of 2003 is being considered at this week's public forums starting Monday, July 18 in Champaign.

Signed into law, the bill passed the Illinois General Assembly last spring, sponsored in the House by State Representatives Julie Hamos (D-Evanston) and Patricia Bellock (R-Westmont). State Senator Maggie Crotty (D-Oak Forest) and Susan Garrett (D-Highwood) shepherded the legislation through the Senate.

The legislation passed the House with a 107 to 5 vote, and the Senate unanimously.

"What if they find a student has a math disorder, a reading disorder. Would that be a mental health disorder, one that would cause the parents to put their children with a drug for a condition they may or may not have?" Trainor asked.

The mental health program will develop a mental health system for "all children ages 0-18 years," provide for screening to "ensure appropriate and culturally relevant assessment of young children's social and emotional development with the use of standardized tools."

Also, all pregnant women will be screened for depression and thereafter following her baby's birth, up to one year. Follow-up treatment services will also be provided.

Trainor said that he is trying to get parents and citizens out to voice their opinion about the new program.

Apparently, children's mental health will be assessed along with their academic standards in the new proposed testing. The Illinois State Board of Education has been given the responsibility to develop the appropriate tests, according to last year's legislation.

The Task Force hosting the public forums this week are to send a recommendation to Governor Blagojevich by the end of the summer, according to the Act (HB 2900).

Developing story . . .

 

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Monday, July 19 Champaign-Urbana/1:00 pm to 5:00 pm/Illinois Terminal Building, 4th floor/45 E. University Ave., Champaign

Tuesday, July 20 Mt. Vernon/ 9:00 am to 1:00 pm/ Central Christian Church/ 301 N. 10th St.

Wednesday, July 21 Edwardsville/9:00 am to 1:00 pm/ Edwardsville High School/ 6161 Center Grove Rd.

Thursday, July 22 Rockford/1:00 am to 5:00 pm/Rockford Memorial Hospital, Funderburg Auditorium/2400 N. Rockton Ave.

Friday, July 23 Chicago /9:00 am to 1:00 pm/Spertus Institute/ 618 S. Michigan Ave. © 2004 Illinois Leader.com -- all rights reserved _________ What are your thoughts concerning the issues raised in this story? Write a letter to the editor at letters, and include your name and town.

 

 

 

 

 

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``It's a deliberative process and, until we have a serious vacancy to deal with, the clock isn't really ticking," so said ILGOP National Committeeman Bob Kjellander. Instead of who should fill the Jack Ryan vacancy, we ask, will it be filled?

 

 

 

 

Yes.

 

 

 

 

 

No.

 

 

 

 

 

Don't Know.

 

 

 

 

 

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Please someone call in the National Guard to seize control of the ILGOP .

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Total Votes: 325

 

View Results

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

IN DISCUSSION

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ryan screws GOP, GO AWAY

 

 

A 2006 REPUBLICAN TICKET I'D LIKE TO SEE

 

 

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Jack Franks

 

 

HDO and Lisa Madigan

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

PHOTOS

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

In honor of 36 fallen Illinois heroes

 

 

Don't miss it: IL GOP's "Trainwreck" coming to a theatre near you!

 

 

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Comcast Network - 7/25/2004

 

 

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Sign the Illinois Leader Petition to Support 'Choose Life' License Plates

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

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ROFLOL... every pregnant woman in IL is going to be on anti-depressants! What the hell are they thinking????

 

Okay, all laughter set aside... nothing will make something more real to me than seeing that there is actually a state trying to put this in to action. I'm just seething!

 

 

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This is so scary. Home schooled kids and women who don't go to docs while pregnant should be okay, though!?!?!

 

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Shelby Blakely

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Monday, July 26, 2004 12:02 PM

RE: Herbal Remedies - Illinois Mandatory Mental Health screening

 

Holy Hell, here's just another way to take another jab at compulsory schooling. Like the people who run public schools know anything about mental health.

-Shelby

 

Doc Shillington [DocShillington]Monday, July 26, 2004 8:43 AMherbal remediesHerbal Remedies - Illinois Mandatory Mental Health screening

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EXACTLY

 

When I was pregnant I was depressed. I was overworked, overtired, overweight, my body was overstressed. Oh those poor fetuses. Of course if they don't start geting the drugs from mommy they'll be getting them soon enough after they're born anyways. ~sigh~

It's so sad; almost every woman I know that has recently had a baby is on an antidepressant of some kind. Post pardom depression....yeah.... maybe it's because they aren't sleeping enough and they're healing. There's nothing wrong with their BRAIN!!!!!

 

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Monday, July 26, 2004 12:22 PM

Re: Herbal Remedies - Illinois Mandatory Mental Health screening

 

ROFLOL... every pregnant woman in IL is going to be on anti-depressants! What the hell are they thinking????

 

Okay, all laughter set aside... nothing will make something more real to me than seeing that there is actually a state trying to put this in to action. I'm just seething!

 

 

Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

[Guest guest]

Shelby...No kidding !....Mary O

 

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Shelby Blakely

herbal remedies

Monday, July 26, 2004 10:02 AM

RE: Herbal Remedies - Illinois Mandatory Mental Health screening

 

Holy Hell, here's just another way to take another jab at compulsory schooling. Like the people who run public schools know anything about mental health.

-Shelby

 

 

[Guest guest]

This is another way to force those who do not rely on the system into compliance. Specifically those who are home-schooled.

-Shelby

 

Candace Podratz [CandaceAndBrock]Monday, July 26, 2004 9:58 AMherbal remedies Subject: Re: Herbal Remedies - Illinois Mandatory Mental Health screening

This is so scary. Home schooled kids and women who don't go to docs while pregnant should be okay, though!?!?!

 

Candace

 

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Shelby Blakely

herbal remedies

Monday, July 26, 2004 12:02 PM

RE: Herbal Remedies - Illinois Mandatory Mental Health screening

 

Holy Hell, here's just another way to take another jab at compulsory schooling. Like the people who run public schools know anything about mental health.

-Shelby

 

Doc Shillington [DocShillington]Monday, July 26, 2004 8:43 AMherbal remediesHerbal Remedies - Illinois Mandatory Mental Health screening

And the drama unfolds.

DocFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

[Guest guest]

But didn't it say screenings would be done in schools!?! I must have read something wrong. How would they get at the homeschooled kids?

 

Candace

 

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Shelby Blakely

herbal remedies

Monday, July 26, 2004 2:08 PM

RE: Herbal Remedies - Illinois Mandatory Mental Health screening

 

This is another way to force those who do not rely on the system into compliance. Specifically those who are home-schooled.

-Shelby

 

Candace Podratz [CandaceAndBrock]Monday, July 26, 2004 9:58 AMherbal remedies Subject: Re: Herbal Remedies - Illinois Mandatory Mental Health screening

This is so scary. Home schooled kids and women who don't go to docs while pregnant should be okay, though!?!?!

 

Candace

 

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Shelby Blakely

herbal remedies

Monday, July 26, 2004 12:02 PM

RE: Herbal Remedies - Illinois Mandatory Mental Health screening

 

Holy Hell, here's just another way to take another jab at compulsory schooling. Like the people who run public schools know anything about mental health.

-Shelby

 

Doc Shillington [DocShillington]Monday, July 26, 2004 8:43 AMherbal remediesHerbal Remedies - Illinois Mandatory Mental Health screening

And the drama unfolds.

DocFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

[Guest guest]

Because after this "screening" becomes common place then they will start saying things like "home-schooling children do not have the safety net that this screening gives." This is what they will use to further outlaw home schooling. Think of it from their perspective. Once they can use this screening to force entry into those home-schooling homes under the guise of "mental health care" they will use any information they can get to force those kids into the system.

Am I making any sense?

-Shelby

 

P.S. If you remember Andrea Yates, she was home-schooling. This law sounds like it is meant to prevent something like that from happening. But you will notice that no one is pointing the finger at how her medical deity's messed up her meds (and the sudden lack of them) contributed to the situation.

 

Candace Podratz [CandaceAndBrock]Monday, July 26, 2004 11:17 AMherbal remedies Subject: Re: Herbal Remedies - Illinois Mandatory Mental Health screening

But didn't it say screenings would be done in schools!?! I must have read something wrong. How would they get at the homeschooled kids?

 

Candace

 

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Shelby Blakely

herbal remedies

Monday, July 26, 2004 2:08 PM

RE: Herbal Remedies - Illinois Mandatory Mental Health screening

 

This is another way to force those who do not rely on the system into compliance. Specifically those who are home-schooled.

-Shelby

 

Candace Podratz [CandaceAndBrock]Monday, July 26, 2004 9:58 AMherbal remedies Subject: Re: Herbal Remedies - Illinois Mandatory Mental Health screening

This is so scary. Home schooled kids and women who don't go to docs while pregnant should be okay, though!?!?!

 

Candace

 

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Shelby Blakely

herbal remedies

Monday, July 26, 2004 12:02 PM

RE: Herbal Remedies - Illinois Mandatory Mental Health screening

 

Holy Hell, here's just another way to take another jab at compulsory schooling. Like the people who run public schools know anything about mental health.

-Shelby

 

Doc Shillington [DocShillington]Monday, July 26, 2004 8:43 AMherbal remediesHerbal Remedies - Illinois Mandatory Mental Health screening

And the drama unfolds.

DocFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

[Guest guest]

Yowza! Well, if they want to come into my home and tell me what drugs to take or what drugs to give Brock that's fine, I'll just flush them down the toilet! Give me stronger ones and I'll flush those, too!!!!!

This is so scary, why can't they just leave people alone! This is a total privacy invasion!!!! I'm livid.

 

Candace

 

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Shelby Blakely

herbal remedies

Monday, July 26, 2004 5:42 PM

RE: Herbal Remedies - Illinois Mandatory Mental Health screening

 

Because after this "screening" becomes common place then they will start saying things like "home-schooling children do not have the safety net that this screening gives." This is what they will use to further outlaw home schooling. Think of it from their perspective. Once they can use this screening to force entry into those home-schooling homes under the guise of "mental health care" they will use any information they can get to force those kids into the system.

Am I making any sense?

-Shelby

 

P.S. If you remember Andrea Yates, she was home-schooling. This law sounds like it is meant to prevent something like that from happening. But you will notice that no one is pointing the finger at how her medical deity's messed up her meds (and the sudden lack of them) contributed to the situation.

 

Candace Podratz [CandaceAndBrock]Monday, July 26, 2004 11:17 AMherbal remedies Subject: Re: Herbal Remedies - Illinois Mandatory Mental Health screening

But didn't it say screenings would be done in schools!?! I must have read something wrong. How would they get at the homeschooled kids?

 

Candace

 

-

Shelby Blakely

herbal remedies

Monday, July 26, 2004 2:08 PM

RE: Herbal Remedies - Illinois Mandatory Mental Health screening

 

This is another way to force those who do not rely on the system into compliance. Specifically those who are home-schooled.

-Shelby

 

Candace Podratz [CandaceAndBrock]Monday, July 26, 2004 9:58 AMherbal remedies Subject: Re: Herbal Remedies - Illinois Mandatory Mental Health screening

This is so scary. Home schooled kids and women who don't go to docs while pregnant should be okay, though!?!?!

 

Candace

 

-

Shelby Blakely

herbal remedies

Monday, July 26, 2004 12:02 PM

RE: Herbal Remedies - Illinois Mandatory Mental Health screening

 

Holy Hell, here's just another way to take another jab at compulsory schooling. Like the people who run public schools know anything about mental health.

-Shelby

 

Doc Shillington [DocShillington]Monday, July 26, 2004 8:43 AMherbal remediesHerbal Remedies - Illinois Mandatory Mental Health screening

And the drama unfolds.

DocFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington