Guest guest Posted July 20, 2004 Report Share Posted July 20, 2004 Were the leaves really narrow? Not narrow. They were arranged in groups of three and had really pronounced white "V"s on all of them. Nice biggish leaves. I came home and called Pacific Botanicals (where I buy many of my organic herbs) and they said not to use herbs plucked from busy highways. They said when they pick "wildcrafted" herbs, they must be at least 100 ft. from rarely used dirt roads in the wilderness. Gloria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2004 Report Share Posted July 20, 2004 Ya herbs need to be set about fifty feet back. I went for a walk though and noticed the same thing about some red clover I saw. The plants were obviously clover to me and the leaves down at the base had the white, but the leaves around the flower were thinner and didn't have the white in the middle. It doesn't always have to be a " v-shape " but the white is usually there. Were the leaves really narrow? herbal remedies , Angela Sill <angelasill> wrote: > Gloria, > > I don't have an answer to your question, but I will say that if you found it growing on the side of the road, you should not use it anyway. It will be laden with the toxic metals from passing vehicles. I hate this since many of the great herbs that grow wild here are " ditch " herbs. LOL > > Angie > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2004 Report Share Posted July 21, 2004 That is so disheartening! I always find the best plants in bad places. I was so excited that I found yellow dock, but it was by some very active train tracks! You know, you can eat clover flowers- even the white ones. If you eat decide to eat your clover, you have to cook them slightly because they have a tendency to upset the stomach otherwise. They are part of the pea family and cause gas. herbal remedies , MorningGlory113@a... wrote: > > > I hate this since many of the great herbs that grow wild here are " ditch " > > herbs. LOL > > Yesterday I drove to a nearby park and spotted even more red clover. This > time it was gobs of them and they were nice and purple and had the white on the > leaf. I pulled over, got out my basket and plucked as many as I could, feeling > like " hey! I really scored here!!! " . As I was leaving the park I saw a sign > saying " Park Closed Until Further Notice " . It went on to explain that they > found a high lead content in the soil and were closed because of it. Needless to > say my heart sank and I trashed the blossoms when I got home. > > Gloria > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2004 Report Share Posted July 21, 2004 100 ft, I will remember that. I've been using 50 ft as my bench mark but I suppose 100 ft is a lot safer! herbal remedies , MorningGlory113@a... wrote: > > > Were the > > leaves really narrow? > > > > Not narrow. They were arranged in groups of three and had really pronounced > > white " V " s on all of them. Nice biggish leaves. I came home and called > > Pacific Botanicals (where I buy many of my organic herbs) and they said not to use > > herbs plucked from busy highways. They said when they pick " wildcrafted " > > herbs, they must be at least 100 ft. from rarely used dirt roads in the > > wilderness. > > > > Gloria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2004 Report Share Posted July 21, 2004 I always find the best plants in bad places. I was so excited that I found yellow dock, but it was by some very active train tracks! I know!!! Where I live the median strip dividing a 4 lane highway is a goldmine! I think it's because it's so open and get lots of sun. It's heartbreaking to even look but can't use! You know, you can eat clover flowers- even the white ones. If you eat decide to eat your clover, you have to cook them slightly I'm using the red ones for a tincture. I need to get them as freshly picked as possible. I had to resort to ordering them. The $32 shipping charge hurts! They have to ship them from OR to PA, overnight packed with ice. Gloria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2004 Report Share Posted July 21, 2004 Mabye you could transplant them to a better place and use the plant offspring? Just a thought, I thought of that too. I don't know what to do. It makes me want to cry when I see these rows of happy healthy herbs sitting there with 8 wheelers zipping past them.-(. Gloria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2004 Report Share Posted July 21, 2004 Mabye you could transplant them to a better place and use the plant offspring? Just a thought, -Shelby k_huether77 [k_huether77] Tuesday, July 20, 2004 10:50 PM herbal remedies Herbal Remedies - Re: identifying wild herbs That is so disheartening! I always find the best plants in bad places. I was so excited that I found yellow dock, but it was by some very active train tracks! You know, you can eat clover flowers- even the white ones. If you eat decide to eat your clover, you have to cook them slightly because they have a tendency to upset the stomach otherwise. They are part of the pea family and cause gas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2004 Report Share Posted July 22, 2004 I am not sure, would the toxic metals get into the offspring's seeds? I could always start the plants I see from seed. I was walking yesterday. (I live in Germany) and I saw a few giant mullein plants as an integral, ornate part of someone's flower garden. What a beautiful plant and it sort of gave me inspiration. herbal remedies , " Shelby Blakely " <s.blakely@v...> wrote: > Mabye you could transplant them to a better place and use the plant > offspring? > Just a thought, > -Shelby > > > k_huether77 [k_huether77] > Tuesday, July 20, 2004 10:50 PM > herbal remedies > Herbal Remedies - Re: identifying wild herbs > > > That is so disheartening! I always find the best plants in bad > places. I was so excited that I found yellow dock, but it was by some > very active train tracks! > > You know, you can eat clover flowers- even the white ones. If you eat > decide to eat your clover, you have to cook them slightly because > they have a tendency to upset the stomach otherwise. They are part of > the pea family and cause gas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2004 Report Share Posted July 22, 2004 Yikes, fresh is best for a tincture, but in a pinch I've used dry before. That shipping cost hurts! herbal remedies , MorningGlory113@a... wrote: > > > I always find the best plants in bad > > places. I was so excited that I found yellow dock, but it was by some > > very active train tracks! > > > > I know!!! Where I live the median strip dividing a 4 lane highway is a > > goldmine! I think it's because it's so open and get lots of sun. It's > > heartbreaking to even look but can't use! > > > > You know, you can eat clover flowers- even the white ones. If you eat > > decide to eat your clover, you have to cook them slightly > > I'm using the red ones for a tincture. I need to get them as freshly picked > as possible. I had to resort to ordering them. The $32 shipping charge hurts! > They have to ship them from OR to PA, overnight packed with ice. > > Gloria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2004 Report Share Posted July 22, 2004 Lately I have been looking at my front yard in a brand new way - there's a little lawn area right now and a whole bunch of star jasmine (the fragrance of which I absolutely love!), but all of this is primarly for looks. We never go out and sit on the little patch of lawn or anything. Anyway, I've been thinking that I should tear all this out and have beds of herbs and flowers! It could be just as aesthetic and a much better use of water here in Calif! :)Kelli k_huether77 [k_huether77] Wednesday, July 21, 2004 11:59 PMherbal remedies Subject: Herbal Remedies - Re: identifying wild herbs I was walking yesterday. (I live in Germany) and I saw a few giant mullein plants as an integral, ornate part of someone's flower garden. What a beautiful plant and it sort of gave me inspiration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2004 Report Share Posted July 22, 2004 <<Lately I have been looking at my front yard in a brand new way - there's a little lawn area right now and a whole bunch of star jasmine (the fragrance of which I absolutely love!), but all of this is primarly for looks. We never go out and sit on the little patch of lawn or anything.>> My back yard is LOADED with different herbs that grow wild in MT. Some of them I have identified, others I have not. There is stinging nettle, motherwort, dandelion, yarrow, etc. All in a little tiny backyard. LOL Climbing nightshade grows everywhere, and while I can't use it medicinally (poison), the stalks are great for making wreaths and the dried flowers turn a gorgeous shade of dark purple. Read only the mail you want - Mail SpamGuard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2004 Report Share Posted July 23, 2004 I used to have a garden in my backyard.... before the dog! Now it's just concrete and dirt! I have to find a way, before next spring, of keeping both the dog and a garden in the back yard and not having to police the scene 24 hrs a day! Kelli Angela Sill [angelasill] Thursday, July 22, 2004 1:51 PMherbal remedies Subject: RE: Herbal Remedies - Re: identifying wild herbs My back yard is LOADED with different herbs that grow wild in MT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2004 Report Share Posted July 23, 2004 Yes, we lived in CA at one point and I remember that water thing... Also, there is a joy to letting nature take over the lawn... it is amazing what things you can find in the lawn. In the lawn here there is Lady's Bedstraw, some sort of aromatic plant that I think might be pennyroyal, Cleavers, chicory, dandelion, plantain, red clover, daisy, viola odorata, chickweed, shephard's purse, and a few others that I haven't identified yet. I think there is some veronica officinalis too (there may also be mouse-ear hawkweed). herbal remedies , " Kelli Bever " <kelli@c...> wrote: > Lately I have been looking at my front yard in a brand new way - there's a little lawn area right now and a whole bunch of star jasmine (the fragrance of which I absolutely love!), but all of this is primarly for looks. We never go out and sit on the little patch of lawn or anything. > > Anyway, I've been thinking that I should tear all this out and have beds of herbs and flowers! It could be just as aesthetic and a much better use of water here in Calif! > > > > Kelli > > > ________________________________ > > k_huether77 [k_huether77] > Wednesday, July 21, 2004 11:59 PM > herbal remedies > Herbal Remedies - Re: identifying wild herbs > > > I was walking > yesterday. (I live in Germany) and I saw a few giant mullein plants > as an integral, ornate part of someone's flower garden. What a > beautiful plant and it sort of gave me inspiration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2004 Report Share Posted July 23, 2004 Angie wrote: > >... Climbing nightshade grows everywhere, and while I can't use it medicinally (poison), the stalks are great for making wreaths and the dried flowers turn a gorgeous shade of dark purple. > >Angie > My father claimed my grandmother used to make jelly from nightshade berries. I know everyone says they are toxic. I do not know if there are different types of nightshade. This was in north eastern North Dakota. They do have medicinal uses, though I suppose I'd avoid it for alternatives which I were knowledgeable about. I won't be making any nightshade jelly anytime soon for the same reason. -Brian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2004 Report Share Posted July 24, 2004 Keep the dog in the yard? Get the electronic product called 'Invisible Fence'. -- In herbal remedies , " Kelli Bever " <kelli@c...> wrote: > I used to have a garden in my backyard.... before the dog! Now it's just concrete and dirt! I have to find a way, before next spring, of keeping both the dog and a garden in the back yard and not having to police the scene 24 hrs a day! > > Kelli > > > ________________________________ > > Angela Sill [angelasill] > Thursday, July 22, 2004 1:51 PM > herbal remedies > RE: Herbal Remedies - Re: identifying wild herbs > > > My back yard is LOADED with different herbs that grow wild in MT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2004 Report Share Posted July 24, 2004 Brian, There are many varieties of Nightshade. Oddly enough, we have a few of the Nightshade family that people eat on a regular basis... tomatoes and potatoes. Most nightshade plants are poisonous due to the high alkali content. Most of the reported cases of death were small children who unknowingly ate the berries. Adults have a higher tolerance for the poison. Nightshade is also known as Belladonna. Belladonna is known by homeopathics as a remedy for migraine headaches, but the dosage is very small. I can't honestly say I know whether there are cooking methods that will take the toxicity from these plants, so perhaps your grandmother did make jellies from them. That, or she made them from tomatoes and your grandfather is teasing. You never can tell with grandfathers sometimes. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2004 Report Share Posted July 24, 2004 Is this why for so many years people thought tomatoes were poisoneous sp? Sandra - Angela Sill herbal remedies Brian, There are many varieties of Nightshade. Oddly enough, we have a few of the Nightshade family that people eat on a regular basis... tomatoes and potatoes. Most nightshade plants are poisonous due to the high alkali content. Most of the reported cases of death were small children who unknowingly ate the berries. Adults have a higher tolerance for the poison. Nightshade is also known as Belladonna. Belladonna is known by homeopathics as a remedy for migraine headaches, but the dosage is very small. I can't honestly say I know whether there are cooking methods that will take the toxicity from these plants, so perhaps your grandmother did make jellies from them. That, or she made them from tomatoes and your grandfather is teasing. You never can tell with grandfathers sometimes. LOL Angie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2004 Report Share Posted July 25, 2004 The way I heard it, and I have no way of knowing if it is true or not, is that the plates used a hundred years or so ago contained lead, and the acid in the tomatoes leached the lead into the tomato. People were getting lead poisoning, but attributed it to the tomatoes rather than the plates. JohnWayne and Sandra <rinerw wrote: Is this why for so many years people thought tomatoes were poisoneous sp? Sandra Mail - You care about security. So do we. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2004 Report Share Posted July 25, 2004 Thanks I always wondered why they thought they were poison. Sandra - John Ybarra The way I heard it, and I have no way of knowing if it is true or not, is that the plates used a hundred years or so ago contained lead, and the acid in the tomatoes leached the lead into the tomato. People were getting lead poisoning, but attributed it to the tomatoes rather than the plates. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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