Guest guest Posted July 13, 2004 Report Share Posted July 13, 2004 This is the crap we feed our kids and we're told is "good" for us. It can't even keep whom it's meant for alive!! Totally GROSS!! What a betrayal. I'm not a big milk or dairy person, but if I consume milk products (yogurt, butter etc), it's RAW only. Pasteurized/homogenized milk is missing just about everything that was once in it, including the enzymes needed to digest it. I'm in Amish country and am lucky enough to have a raw dairy farm nearby but realize most people don't. You are right...don't drink pasteurized milk, even if it's organic. The government won't allow raw milk products to be sold commercially. Even when I buy it at the farm, they have to put a label on it that says "For Pet Use Only" just to cover their behinds. Gloria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2004 Report Share Posted July 13, 2004 Hello friends, I wanted to throw in a fact here that got me about 99% off of dairy. The dairy association about 20 years ago (maybe longer) took several calves and decided to do an experiment. The took them away from their mothers and fed them the pasteurized milk. Can anyone guess how long the calves lived? Nope.... Some died within a month and all died within 6 months. They were being fed something that wasn't food anymore. Their bodies were taking enzymes, calcium and vitamins from itself in order to process the processed milk. The could only survive until their bodies no longer had anything left to steal in order to metabolize the food. This data is from a lecture given by a well known MD turned ND by the name of Joel Robbins (I think I spelled that right). This is the crap we feed our kids and we're told is "good" for us. It can't even keep whom it's meant for alive!! Totally GROSS!! What a betrayal. Zeb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2004 Report Share Posted July 13, 2004 This is the crap we feed our kids and we're told is "good" for us. It can't even keep whom it's meant for alive!! Totally GROSS!! What a betrayal. I have a 12 year old cat who would never touch milk. Put a bowl on the floor and he sniffed and walked away every time. The first time I bought raw milk and gave him some he lapped it right up. Interesting;-) Gloria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2004 Report Share Posted July 13, 2004 Yep! Probably why milk CAUSES so many problems in little kids and babies can't handle it until their tummies are more mature. Candace - zeb herbal remedies Tuesday, July 13, 2004 7:57 AM Herbal Remedies - OT - ON MILK Hello friends, I wanted to throw in a fact here that got me about 99% off of dairy. The dairy association about 20 years ago (maybe longer) took several calves and decided to do an experiment. The took them away from their mothers and fed them the pasteurized milk. Can anyone guess how long the calves lived? Nope.... Some died within a month and all died within 6 months. They were being fed something that wasn't food anymore. Their bodies were taking enzymes, calcium and vitamins from itself in order to process the processed milk. The could only survive until their bodies no longer had anything left to steal in order to metabolize the food. This data is from a lecture given by a well known MD turned ND by the name of Joel Robbins (I think I spelled that right). This is the crap we feed our kids and we're told is "good" for us. It can't even keep whom it's meant for alive!! Totally GROSS!! What a betrayal. ZebFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2004 Report Share Posted July 13, 2004 All, There is an excellent show that you can listen to on the net for those of you who live outside of the NY area. It is an hour long show m-tue, thurs-fri on WBAI radio in NY. Natural Healing airs from 12pm-1pm EDT. They cover list relevant topics including, the dairy industry, sugar industry etc and their ill-health effects. http://www.wbai.org/index.php?option=content & task=view & id=34 & Itemid=36 cheers jl --- Candace Podratz <CandaceAndBrock wrote: > Yep! Probably why milk CAUSES so many problems in > little kids and babies can't handle it until their > tummies are more mature. > > Candace > - > zeb > herbal remedies > Tuesday, July 13, 2004 7:57 AM > Herbal Remedies - OT - ON MILK > > > Hello friends, > > I wanted to throw in a fact here that got me about > 99% off of dairy. > > The dairy association about 20 years ago (maybe > longer) took several calves and decided to do an > experiment. The took them away from their mothers > and fed them the pasteurized milk. > > Can anyone guess how long the calves lived? > Nope.... > > > Some died within a month and all died within 6 > months. They were being fed something that wasn't > food anymore. Their bodies were taking enzymes, > calcium and vitamins from itself in order to process > the processed milk. The could only survive until > their bodies no longer had anything left to steal in > order to metabolize the food. > > This data is from a lecture given by a well > known MD turned ND by the name of Joel Robbins (I > think I spelled that right). > > > This is the crap we feed our kids and we're > told is " good " for us. It can't even keep whom it's > meant for alive!! Totally GROSS!! What a betrayal. > > > Zeb > > > Federal Law requires that we warn you of the > following: > 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. > 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician > before using any natural remedy. > 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be > your own physician and to > prescribe for your own health. > We are not medical doctors although MDs are > welcome to post here as long as > they behave themselves. > Any opinions put forth by the list members are > exactly that, and any person > following the advice of anyone posting here does > so at their own risk. > It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting > advice or products from list members, you are > agreeing to > be fully responsible for your own health, and hold > the List Owner and members free of any liability. > > Dr. Ian Shillington > Doctor of Naturopathy > Dr.IanShillington > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2004 Report Share Posted July 13, 2004 Yes, Sally Fallon and Weston Price organization have a lot to say about the dangers of pasteurization. If anyone is interested in reading about it, here is the link- http://www.realmilk.com/ (If you go to the weston price site (www.westonaprice.org) and click on " real milk " this is the page you get directed too. Me? I believe what they say but settle for organic, when I can. I really SHOULD get raw milk but I don't. herbal remedies , <zeb@A...> wrote: > Hello friends, > > I wanted to throw in a fact here that got me about 99% off of dairy. > > The dairy association about 20 years ago (maybe longer) took several calves and decided to do an experiment. The took them away from their mothers and fed them the pasteurized milk. > > Can anyone guess how long the calves lived? Nope.... > > > Some died within a month and all died within 6 months. They were being fed something that wasn't food anymore. Their bodies were taking enzymes, calcium and vitamins from itself in order to process the processed milk. The could only survive until their bodies no longer had anything left to steal in order to metabolize the food. > > This data is from a lecture given by a well known MD turned ND by the name of Joel Robbins (I think I spelled that right). > > > This is the crap we feed our kids and we're told is " good " for us. It can't even keep whom it's meant for alive!! Totally GROSS!! What a betrayal. > > > Zeb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2004 Report Share Posted July 13, 2004 The closest place to me that sells raw yogurt/milk/etc is a 45 minute drive. I'm debating if it's worth it. We don't consume too much milk (I won't drink it anymore) but we sure do burn through cheese like it's going out of style! Candace - MorningGlory113 herbal remedies Tuesday, July 13, 2004 9:14 AM Re: Herbal Remedies - OT - ON MILK This is the crap we feed our kids and we're told is "good" for us. It can't even keep whom it's meant for alive!! Totally GROSS!! What a betrayal.I'm not a big milk or dairy person, but if I consume milk products (yogurt, butter etc), it's RAW only. Pasteurized/homogenized milk is missing just about everything that was once in it, including the enzymes needed to digest it. I'm in Amish country and am lucky enough to have a raw dairy farm nearby but realize most people don't. You are right...don't drink pasteurized milk, even if it's organic. The government won't allow raw milk products to be sold commercially. Even when I buy it at the farm, they have to put a label on it that says "For Pet Use Only" just to cover their behinds.Gloria Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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