Dog and Kitty Off limits Message 12

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It is fine and well that your animals are fine with grapes but, I lost my 115 pound Rottie after he ate grapes from the vine. When they did the necropsy, the remains of a bit of grapeskin is all that was in his stomach. This also happened to a friends Cocker Spaniel.

If you call the poison hotline for the ASPCA they can fill in those "holes" for you. Research is ongoing at UC Davis, on the effects of the compounds in grapes and how they affect canine's in particular. I don't know about garlic, I only posted about the grapes so Sylvia would be aware and not go through what we went through!

Some animals may be able to tolerate them just as some people can tolerate things others can't. After the loss of one beloved companion, I am not about to take that risk with another companion who's safety is in my hands and with so many confirmed incidents that the ASPCA has documented. Seems being cautious and omitting a few simple things from the diet is not too drastic of a measure to take.

As for what is natural for animals to eat, there is nothing natural about the way our companion animals live today.

The bottom line is we are responsible for the safety and well being of our pets and if eliminating one suspect item, that they don't need anyway, from their diet may keep them safe and healthy then that is a small thing to do. herbal remedies wrote:

 

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Cheryl,

 

I totally agree. I know of several folks

who have lost their dog due to grapes/raisins. I don’t know what “Holes”

there are and don’t really care, the fact that

dogs CAN have a problem with them is enough for me to not risk it. My dog has

ran across the road and not been hit by a car many times, doesn’t mean

running across the road is okay. Some dogs can do fine for a while but then one

day, where as they tolerated it before, die from it tomorrow. That is what

happened to the golden retriever next door to my dads. The owner always told

me, “awe, he has never had a problem with it, dogs know what they can and

cant eat”. Then his kidneys failed and he died. So

while some can dig in their heels and swear that they have fed grapes with no

problem, it would be a terrible tragedy if those were wrongly convinced of the safety

just to have a dog die from something so easily avoidable.

Stacy

 

 

 

It is fine and well that your animals are fine with

grapes but, I lost my 115 pound Rottie after he ate grapes from the

vine. When they did the necropsy, the remains of a bit of

grapeskin is all that was in his stomach. This also happened to a friends

Cocker Spaniel.

 

 

If you call the poison hotline for the ASPCA

they can fill in those " holes " for you. Research is ongoing at UC

Davis, on the effects of the compounds in grapes and how they affect canine's

in particular. I don't know about garlic, I only posted about the grapes so

Sylvia would be aware and not go through what we went through!

 

 

Some animals may be able to tolerate them just as some

people can tolerate things others can't. After the loss of one beloved

companion, I am not about to take that risk with another companion who's safety

is in my hands and with so many confirmed incidents that the ASPCA has

documented. Seems being cautious and omitting a few simple things from

the diet is not too drastic of a measure to take.

 

 

As for what is natural for animals to eat,

there is nothing natural about the way our companion animals live today.

 

 

The bottom line is we are responsible for the safety

and well being of our pets and if eliminating one suspect item, that they don't

need anyway, from their diet may keep them safe and healthy then that is a

small thing to do.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Stacy,

Exactly, and I am not willing to take that gamble with a pet I love.

herbal remedies , " Stacy Heath " <ycats@d...>

wrote:

> Cheryl,

>

> I totally agree. I know of several folks who have lost their dog

due to

> grapes/raisins. I don't know what " Holes " there are and don't

really

> care, the fact that dogs CAN have a problem with them is enough

for me

> to not risk it. My dog has ran across the road and not been hit by

a car

> many times, doesn't mean running across the road is okay. Some

dogs can

> do fine for a while but then one day, where as they tolerated it

before,

> die from it tomorrow. That is what happened to the golden

retriever next

> door to my dads. The owner always told me, " awe, he has never had a

> problem with it, dogs know what they can and cant eat " . Then his

kidneys

> failed and he died. So while some can dig in their heels and swear

that

> they have fed grapes with no problem, it would be a terrible

tragedy if

> those were wrongly convinced of the safety just to have a dog die

from

> something so easily avoidable.

> Stacy

>

>

> It is fine and well that your animals are fine with grapes but, I

lost

> my 115 pound Rottie after he ate grapes from the vine. When they

did the

> necropsy, the remains of a bit of grapeskin is all that was in his

> stomach. This also happened to a friends Cocker Spaniel.

> If you call the poison hotline for the ASPCA they can fill in

those

> " holes " for you. Research is ongoing at UC Davis, on the effects

of the

> compounds in grapes and how they affect canine's in particular. I

don't

> know about garlic, I only posted about the grapes so Sylvia would

be

> aware and not go through what we went through!

> Some animals may be able to tolerate them just as some people can

> tolerate things others can't. After the loss of one beloved

companion, I

> am not about to take that risk with another companion who's safety

is in

> my hands and with so many confirmed incidents that the ASPCA has

> documented. Seems being cautious and omitting a few simple things

from

> the diet is not too drastic of a measure to take.

> As for what is natural for animals to eat, there is nothing

natural

> about the way our companion animals live today.

> The bottom line is we are responsible for the safety and well

being of

> our pets and if eliminating one suspect item, that they don't need

> anyway, from their diet may keep them safe and healthy then that

is a

> small thing to do.

>

>

>

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