Guest guest Posted June 27, 2004 Report Share Posted June 27, 2004 It's clear that this group is one-sided on their observations politically as well as other areas that I won't go into here because of the restriction on free speach in this group. The US has been attacked by terrorists since 1979 and now when a president finally has the wisdom to take a stand and say enough, anti-Bush people stand up and say, "Why?". Take it to a personal level...if your kid was being attacked at school by bullies, would you tell him to ignore it and it will go away? No, you teach him how to defend himself. It would be much easier if other classmates would stand along side him and help him to tell the bullies that their actions will not be tolerated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2004 Report Share Posted June 28, 2004 Restriction of free speech on this list???? The only person whose communication is censored on this list is Guido's. And even that has proven to be impossible at times. Now flaming???? That's another story. Try that and yer TOAST! Doc Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.727-738-0554DocShillington - Julie Austin herbal_remedies Sunday, June 27, 2004 3:34 PM Herbal Remedies - RE: Bush blamers It's clear that this group is one-sided on their observations politically as well as other areas that I won't go into here because of the restriction on free speach in this group. The US has been attacked by terrorists since 1979 and now when a president finally has the wisdom to take a stand and say enough, anti-Bush people stand up and say, "Why?". Take it to a personal level...if your kid was being attacked at school by bullies, would you tell him to ignore it and it will go away? No, you teach him how to defend himself. It would be much easier if other classmates would stand along side him and help him to tell the bullies that their actions will not be tolerated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2004 Report Share Posted June 28, 2004 I've always been impressed by the free speech allowed on this list. Candace - Doc Shillington herbal remedies Sunday, June 27, 2004 8:39 PM Re: Herbal Remedies - RE: Bush blamers Restriction of free speech on this list???? The only person whose communication is censored on this list is Guido's. And even that has proven to be impossible at times. Now flaming???? That's another story. Try that and yer TOAST! Doc Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.727-738-0554DocShillington - Julie Austin herbal_remedies Sunday, June 27, 2004 3:34 PM Herbal Remedies - RE: Bush blamers It's clear that this group is one-sided on their observations politically as well as other areas that I won't go into here because of the restriction on free speach in this group. The US has been attacked by terrorists since 1979 and now when a president finally has the wisdom to take a stand and say enough, anti-Bush people stand up and say, "Why?". Take it to a personal level...if your kid was being attacked at school by bullies, would you tell him to ignore it and it will go away? No, you teach him how to defend himself. It would be much easier if other classmates would stand along side him and help him to tell the bullies that their actions will not be tolerated.Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2004 Report Share Posted June 28, 2004 Julie, I voted for Bush and am ashamed. It is clear to me that Bush and Cheney started this war to profit from it. Have you read about Halliburton? Cheney's company that is profiting billions rebuilding Iraq? Have you read about Bush's actions while the towers were being attacked? There is NO link between Iraq and 911. That is the main point most of the people are making that are against him. They needed the pipeline in Afghanistan.... This war was started for oil and profit, nothing to do with terrorists. The administration has hired P.R. firms to make everyone rally blindly around with apple pies and the flags while they are killing our kids for their profit. If they are so concerned with our safety, why not close our borders and go from there. Our military is now spread so thin, another attack here would be easy! Bush rec'd 1.4 million from Enron. Have you read about the Patriot Act and our rights it has taken away? Connect the dots.. Do some research. This is not Dem's vs. Republicans, this is survival of our children and grandchildren. http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2003/07/27/RV155399.DTL http://www.bringthemhomenow.org/ http://www.bushandcheneysuck.com/Hawk_Watch_04.htm http://antiwar.com/ http://infowars.com/ http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2003/07/27/RV155399.DTL http://www.thememoryhole.org/911/bush-911.htm http://www.alternet.org/story/12155 http://www.loompanics.com/cgi-local/SoftCart.exe/Articles/BushEnronandBinLaden.html?E+scstore http://anti-bush.com/index2.html http://chaozation.com/23/23vol1.htm http://www.prwatch.org/books/tsigfy10.html Julie Austin [jaustin]Sunday, June 27, 2004 2:34 PMherbal_remedies Subject: Herbal Remedies - RE: Bush blamers It's clear that this group is one-sided on their observations politically as well as other areas that I won't go into here because of the restriction on free speach in this group. The US has been attacked by terrorists since 1979 and now when a president finally has the wisdom to take a stand and say enough, anti-Bush people stand up and say, "Why?". Take it to a personal level...if your kid was being attacked at school by bullies, would you tell him to ignore it and it will go away? No, you teach him how to defend himself. It would be much easier if other classmates would stand along side him and help him to tell the bullies that their actions will not be tolerated.Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2004 Report Share Posted June 28, 2004 Well, I've sat here and read everyone's comments..... and I was not going to comment... but I can't stand it any longer.... and Doc, if you toast me for this so be it, but you started this thread... and there are some things that must be said... now keep in mind I do consider you my friend, however, First, I remember when everyone ran to Canada to avoid the draft and not serve their "precious" America, their country... "Yep, it's a grand place to live, but God forbid I have to fight for it.." I have my rights,,,, freedom of the press, freedom of speech, freedom to choose the life I want to live, who and how I want to worship, and on and on... but me do something for my country???? We may not agree with the decisions our leaders make, but this is America, a democracy, we vote, we back our leaders....if we don't like it we work to make a change, but we don't run off when things get toughrwas wrong, but we Americans were as much to blame for the way we treated our fellow americans who came home for "serving their country" - they serve because they are citizens of this country.. if they don't want to serve, then go elsewhere... and Doc, I don't see where you have the right to voice an opinion on the politics of this country when you not even a citizen of this country... You reap the benefits of the country but you are not a citizen...???? There are alot of things I don't agree with in this country, but this is MY country, and I do feel strongly about "LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT" ... If you love it, you work to make changes, if all you want to do is complain, then leave it... I'm tired of all the foreigners who come to America and can't or won't speak the English language... I'm tired of all the foreigners who have gotten us to the point that we can't say the Pledge of Allegience in school, that we can't put a manger scene in the yard of a public bldg... This country was founded "under God"...... I'll bet our fore fathers are rolling in their graves... I do not like some of the politics going on in our nation, and I will work by writing and voicing my opinion, but if our elected leaders decide to hold a draft, I'm not going running to another country either... I'll put my faith in God to get me thru it... We have many freedoms in this country that are not allowed elsewhere... Value that... If you don't like what is happening, you have a voice... this is not a dictatorship.... I think people forget how much they have here, and forget that it takes work to keep it and change it.I'm sorry, our country is not perfect, but it's alot better than alot of other places... If you want change, you gotta work for it. Do you help campaign for the person you want in office? Or do you just sit idly by complaining, doing nothing?????? Suzi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2004 Report Share Posted June 28, 2004 There has never been, since I have joined this group, even a whisper about restriction of free speech. As far as us being one sided? I for one, am proud to be a part of a group of people who are willing to stand up and speak up against what they feel is wrong, even if it’s the actions of our president. To say that the us has been attacked by terrorists since 1979 is grossly oversimplifying the reasons that we are all upset. We will stand against the lies our government tries to tell us and the atrocities they try to commit. We will stand against our government trying to take away our rights. We will stand against our CURRENT PRESIDENT who happens to be bush, putting money into his pockets as well as his friends, while spilling American blood as well as INNOCENT blood in another country. Those people didn’t fly the planes and they didn’t ask us to come over there. Standing beside bush while he decimates another country in the name of “defending our honor” and claiming that THEY are the bullies is like condemning the entire Christian/Catholic faith because of the few radicals that bomb abortion clinics. Liz Julie Austin [jaustin] Sunday, June 27, 2004 3:34 PM To: herbal_remedies Herbal Remedies - RE: Bush blamers It's clear that this group is one-sided on their observations politically as well as other areas that I won't go into here because of the restriction on free speach in this group. The US has been attacked by terrorists since 1979 and now when a president finally has the wisdom to take a stand and say enough, anti-Bush people stand up and say, " Why? " . Take it to a personal level...if your kid was being attacked at school by bullies, would you tell him to ignore it and it will go away? No, you teach him how to defend himself. It would be much easier if other classmates would stand along side him and help him to tell the bullies that their actions will not be tolerated. Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and to prescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian Shillington Doctor of Naturopathy Dr.IanShillington --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.708 / Virus Database: 464 - Release 6/18/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.708 / Virus Database: 464 - Release 6/18/2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2004 Report Share Posted June 28, 2004 Very true about bullies......Now, what is the USA going to do if the rest of the world takes this advice and says " NO MORE, Yankee Go HOME " to a country that many Other Countries regard as a Bully? Julie in Minnesota - " Julie Austin " <jaustin <herbal_remedies > Sunday, June 27, 2004 2:34 PM Herbal Remedies - RE: Bush blamers <SNIP> The US has been attacked by terrorists since 1979 and now when a president finally has the wisdom to take a stand and say enough, anti-Bush people stand up and say, " Why? " . Take it to a personal level...if your kid was being attacked at school by bullies, would you tell him to ignore it and it will go away? No, you teach him how to defend himself. It would be much easier if other classmates would stand along side him and help him to tell the bullies that their actions will not be tolerated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2004 Report Share Posted June 28, 2004 Liz, Every president (just about) has lined his pockets after taking office... this is nothing new.. Suzifyrespryte <fyrespryte wrote: There has never been, since I have joined this group, even a whisper about restriction of free speech. As far as us being one sided? I for one, am proud to be a part of a group of people who are willing to stand up and speak up against what they feel is wrong, even if it’s the actions of our president. To say that the us has been attacked by terrorists since 1979 is grossly oversimplifying the reasons that we are all upset. We will stand against the lies our government tries to tell us and the atrocities they try to commit. We will stand against our government trying to take away our rights. We will stand against our CURRENT PRESIDENT who happens to be bush, putting money into his pockets as well as his friends, while spilling American blood as well as INNOCENT blood in another country. Those people didn’t fly the planes and they didn’t ask us to come over there. Standing beside bush while he decimates another country in the name of “defending our honor” and claiming that THEY are the bullies is like condemning the entire Christian/Catholic faith because of the few radicals that bomb abortion clinics. Liz Julie Austin [jaustin] Sunday, June 27, 2004 3:34 PMherbal_remedies Subject: Herbal Remedies - RE: Bush blamers It's clear that this group is one-sided on their observations politically as well as other areas that I won't go into here because of the restriction on free speach in this group. The US has been attacked by terrorists since 1979 and now when a president finally has the wisdom to take a stand and say enough, anti-Bush people stand up and say, "Why?". Take it to a personal level...if your kid was being attacked at school by bullies, would you tell him to ignore it and it will go away? No, you teach him how to defend himself. It would be much easier if other classmates would stand along side him and help him to tell the bullies that their actions will not be tolerated. Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington ---Incoming mail is certified Virus Free.Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.708 / Virus Database: 464 - Release 6/18/2004 ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.708 / Virus Database: 464 - Release 6/18/2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2004 Report Share Posted June 28, 2004 Hey, I resemble that remark!! GuidoDoc Shillington <DocShillington wrote: Restriction of free speech on this list???? The only person whose communication is censored on this list is Guido's. And even that has proven to be impossible at times. Now flaming???? That's another story. Try that and yer TOAST! Doc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2004 Report Share Posted June 28, 2004 herbal remedies , Suzanne <suziesgoats> wrote: > Well, I've sat here and read everyone's comments..... and I was not going to comment... but I can't stand it any longer.... and Doc, if you toast me for this so be it, but you started this thread... and there are some things that must be said... now keep in mind I do consider you my friend, however, Well said Suzi. I agree with you 100%. Karen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2004 Report Share Posted June 28, 2004 Which one didn't? -Shelby Suzanne [suziesgoats]Monday, June 28, 2004 3:49 AMherbal remedies Subject: RE: Herbal Remedies - RE: Bush blamers Liz, Every president (just about) has lined his pockets after taking office... this is nothing new.. Suzi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2004 Report Share Posted June 28, 2004 Our very EARLY forefathers... we didn't have lobbyists then..lolShelby Blakely <s.blakely wrote: Which one didn't? -Shelby Suzanne [suziesgoats]Monday, June 28, 2004 3:49 AMherbal remedies Subject: RE: Herbal Remedies - RE: Bush blamers Liz, Every president (just about) has lined his pockets after taking office... this is nothing new.. SuziFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2004 Report Share Posted June 28, 2004 I agree with our President and I support our troops. Bush is doing everything he said he would do when he took office. When he says something, he means it. I admire that. Things haven't gone completely as planned, there is no doubt of this, but we are making progress and hopefully we can help transform the middle east region into one of hope and prosperity for all the citizens. One other point here: Most middle eastern countries suppress women, treating them as second class citizens. Where is the outcry from the feminists groups or any group for that matter?? I don't get it. Ok enough about that, let me make my real point. Alternative medicine and Alternative energy. We have two main problems that I can see, domestically. Our healthcare system is an utter debacle and we rely on foreign, unstable countries for our primary energy source. On this list we discuss one of these problems, healthcare and we are fighting back, taking our health into our own hands. Not relying on the drug companies who definitely don't have our best interests. Think about the implications when our message (or focus) becomes mainstream. Our healthcare issues will be drastically reduced. I know the drug companies are powerful. But I know something more powerful, us, the consumer. If we don't buy, they don't stay in business. It is as simple as that. I feel that anyone who has received the wonderful benefits from natural healing needs to spread the word and educate, even if on a very small scale. If everyone does a little bit we can accomplish so much. I have faith that the truth will get out and this long distant goal will become a reality. Ok, the second topic, Alternative energy. From a politically standpoint, I feel a lot of our problems stem from the fact that a handful of people control the wealth in the middle east. They suppress their own people and blame it on us. We are far too dependent on foreign oil or for that matter oil. Alternative energy sources are right at our fingertips. Cold fusion, zero-point energy, hydrogen, wind, tidal, solar....I could go on and on. The reports we hear from these are that they won't work, they won't supply our country with enough energy....Well folks, these reports we hear are similar to the reports we hear about herbal remedies and other alternative medicines solutions not working. The people who are writing the reports have a financial interest in suppressing alternative medicine and alternative energy. See a parallel here?? What I don't understand is all the Bush bashers. They rant and rant and rant......But no substance comes out of their rants...I have a suggestion for all the Bush bashers. Do some digging on alternative energy. Demand that the government fund some of this research. Make it non-political. Bush isn't that target here, change is. Do you think Kerry is going to do anything different on either front medicine or energy. Not a chance. The government we will have with Kerry will not be any different than the one we have with Bush. Make no mistake about it. (Begin quick political opinion) I like Bush because he does what he says he is going to do. He is focused and when I hear him speak I get a sense of honesty and courage from him. Kerry on the other hand is as arrogant as they come. (end quick political opinion) Back to alternative energy. If the liberals/bush-haters would focus their efforts on something like alternative energy, and not make it derogatory political rhetoric, then they would be met with open arms from many on the right, including myself. Shelby Blakely [s.blakely] Mon 6/28/2004 11:56 AM herbal remedies Cc: RE: Herbal Remedies - RE: Bush blamers Which one didn't? -Shelby Suzanne [suziesgoats] Monday, June 28, 2004 3:49 AM herbal remedies RE: Herbal Remedies - RE: Bush blamers Liz, Every president (just about) has lined his pockets after taking office... this is nothing new.. Suzi Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and to prescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian Shillington Doctor of Naturopathy Dr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2004 Report Share Posted June 28, 2004 Well, I thought this was an herbal remedies group, not a political foremat. Yes, Bush has done what he said he was going to do and more. He has made our allies mistrust us. He has been dishonest with the American people. He has killed our economy, I don't know where you live but, we have people out of work because of all the jobs that have been sent overseas. I will always support our troops, these are our fathers, sons, brothers, sister, mothers, and daughters. But, he has sent many to there doom, unless you think there is only one way to do something. Not liking the way Bush has handled things does not mean I do not care about our Amreican citizen over there and here. Rob Combis <rcombis wrote: I agree with our President and I support our troops. Bush is doing everything he said he would do when he took office. When he says something, he means it. I admire that. Things haven't gone completely as planned, there is no doubt of this, but we are making progress and hopefully we can help transform the middle east region into one of hope and prosperity for all the citizens. One other point here: Most middle eastern countries suppress women, treating them as second class citizens. Where is the outcry from the feminists groups or any group for that matter?? I don't get it.Ok enough about that, let me make my real point. Alternative medicine and Alternative energy. We have two main problems that I can see, domestically. Our healthcare system is an utter debacle and we rely on foreign, unstable countries for our primary energy source. On this list we discuss one of these problems, healthcare and we are fighting back, taking our health into our own hands. Not relying on the drug companies who definitely don't have our best interests. Think about the implications when our message (or focus) becomes mainstream. Our healthcare issues will be drastically reduced. I know the drug companies are powerful. But I know something more powerful, us, the consumer. If we don't buy, they don't stay in business. It is as simple as that. I feel that anyone who has received the wonderful benefits from natural healing needs to spread the word and educate, even if on a very small scale. If everyone does a little bit we can accomplish so much. I have faith that the truth will get out and this long distant goal will become a reality.Ok, the second topic, Alternative energy. From a politically standpoint, I feel a lot of our problems stem from the fact that a handful of people control the wealth in the middle east. They suppress their own people and blame it on us. We are far too dependent on foreign oil or for that matter oil. Alternative energy sources are right at our fingertips. Cold fusion, zero-point energy, hydrogen, wind, tidal, solar....I could go on and on. The reports we hear from these are that they won't work, they won't supply our country with enough energy....Well folks, these reports we hear are similar to the reports we hear about herbal remedies and other alternative medicines solutions not working. The people who are writing the reports have a financial interest in suppressing alternative medicine and alternative energy. See a parallel here?? What I don't understand is all the Bush bashers. They rant and rant and rant......But no substance comes out of their rants...I have a suggestion for all the Bush bashers. Do some digging on alternative energy. Demand that the government fund some of this research. Make it non-political. Bush isn't that target here, change is. Do you think Kerry is going to do anything different on either front medicine or energy. Not a chance. The government we will have with Kerry will not be any different than the one we have with Bush. Make no mistake about it. (Begin quick political opinion) I like Bush because he does what he says he is going to do. He is focused and when I hear him speak I get a sense of honesty and courage from him. Kerry on the other hand is as arrogant as they come. (end quick political opinion) Back to alternative energy. If the liberals/bush-haters would focus their efforts on something like alternative energy, and not make it derogatory political rhetoric, then they would be met with open arms from many on the right, including myself. Shelby Blakely [s.blakely] Mon 6/28/2004 11:56 AM herbal remedies Cc: RE: Herbal Remedies - RE: Bush blamers Which one didn't? -Shelby Suzanne [suziesgoats] Monday, June 28, 2004 3:49 AM To: herbal remedies RE: Herbal Remedies - RE: Bush blamers Liz, Every president (just about) has lined his pockets after taking office... this is nothing new.. Suzi Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and to prescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian Shillington Doctor of Naturopathy Dr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2004 Report Share Posted July 4, 2004 Excellent point Liz. Love, Doc Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.727-738-0554DocShillington - fyrespryte herbal remedies Sunday, June 27, 2004 11:35 PM RE: Herbal Remedies - RE: Bush blamers There has never been, since I have joined this group, even a whisper about restriction of free speech. As far as us being one sided? I for one, am proud to be a part of a group of people who are willing to stand up and speak up against what they feel is wrong, even if it’s the actions of our president. To say that the us has been attacked by terrorists since 1979 is grossly oversimplifying the reasons that we are all upset. We will stand against the lies our government tries to tell us and the atrocities they try to commit. We will stand against our government trying to take away our rights. We will stand against our CURRENT PRESIDENT who happens to be Bush, putting money into his pockets as well as his friends, while spilling American blood as well as INNOCENT blood in another country. Those people didn’t fly the planes and they didn’t ask us to come over there. Standing beside Bush while he decimates another country in the name of “defending our honor” and claiming that THEY are the bullies is like condemning the entire Christian/Catholic faith because of the few radicals that bomb abortion clinics. Liz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2004 Report Share Posted July 4, 2004 I'll say!!! Doc Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.727-738-0554DocShillington - John Ybarra herbal remedies Monday, June 28, 2004 10:12 AM Re: Herbal Remedies - RE: Bush blamers Hey, I resemble that remark!! GuidoDoc Shillington <DocShillington wrote: Restriction of free speech on this list???? The only person whose communication is censored on this list is Guido's. And even that has proven to be impossible at times. Now flaming???? That's another story. Try that and yer TOAST! Doc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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