Guest guest Posted June 24, 2004 Report Share Posted June 24, 2004 Doc, I'd really like to thank you for this thread. It has really opened my eyes to other things that i have quietly brushed under the carpet. Much to DH's efforts, i try not to think about or discuss these subjects at home Or anywhere else for that matter). After you mentioned the Libertarian Pty, i decided to check their website out and was quite supprised to find out that many of their opinions mirror things that have been discussing here recently like Alternative Health care (it's what WE are all about here in HR's), choices on Schooling, insurance and several other sujects. I now realize I have more of a responsibility to myself, family and neighbors than just being aware of what we eat and how we use resources. In a way, this is integral to overall health. I'm going to continue reading and getting involved...Thanks again! Sylvia herbal remedies , " Doc Shillington " <DocShillington@V...> wrote: > > As I said in my original article on this, neither Bush nor Kerry are worthy at this stage of the game and are the pawns of the Giant Pharmaceuticals and the International Bankers. > > This is why I stated they both had to go and that Valorie and I would be supporting the Libertarians this election if only as a protest vote. > > Love, > > Doc > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2004 Report Share Posted June 24, 2004 Yer most welcome hon. Most of the time Valorie doesn't want to know about these things, as protection of the family is my "hat". She entrusts me to ensure that "evil" and things that go "boomph" in the night are confronted. Once in a while though, something crosses her lines like the recent Fluoride legislation here in Clearwater FL and she dons her protester's mantle and you'd think she was a she-wolf protecting her cubs. LOL Wellllllll, this new threat from Bush and his cronies also has her dander up and she's spreading the word on this one too. The only other issue we are majorly concerned about is the possible reintroduction of the DRAFT in 2005 as Bryan will be turning 18 that summer, and I'll be damned if I'm gonna lose my child in some war to line the pockets of Bush and his Oil pumping, pharmaceutical, banking interest buddies. Make no mistake about it. The war in Iraq is not about terrrorism, it's about money. I know, I know, I know ROTFLOL I just opened up a new "Political" line and it is off policy for this list. It's just that I'm so upset with Bush for this final straw (the one that broke the camel's back) of making it mandatory for me and mine to get a psychiatric evalution that I'm dumping all of his shortcomings on him at one time. The man has to go!!!! Love, Doc PS. And Kerry is no better. If this country is going to survive, it needs a shakin' and an awakenin'. Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.727-738-0554DocShillington - Sylvia herbal remedies Thursday, June 24, 2004 4:20 PM Herbal Remedies - Doc/Libertarians Doc,I'd really like to thank you for this thread. It has really opened my eyes to other things that i have quietly brushed under the carpet. Much to DH's efforts, i try not to think about or discuss these subjects at home Or anywhere else for that matter).After you mentioned the Libertarian Pty, i decided to check their website out and was quite supprised to find out that many of their opinions mirror things that have been discussing here recently like Alternative Health care (it's what WE are all about here in HR's), choices on Schooling, insurance and several other sujects.I now realize I have more of a responsibility to myself, family and neighbors than just being aware of what we eat and how we use resources. In a way, this is integral to overall health. I'm going to continue reading and getting involved...Thanks again!Sylviaherbal remedies , "Doc Shillington" <DocShillington@V...> wrote:> > As I said in my original article on this, neither Bush nor Kerry are worthy at this stage of the game and are the pawns of the Giant Pharmaceuticals and the International Bankers.> > This is why I stated they both had to go and that Valorie and I would be supporting the Libertarians this election if only as a protest vote.> > Love,> > Doc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2004 Report Share Posted June 24, 2004 How possible this Draft thing is? jasminaDoc Shillington <DocShillington wrote: Yer most welcome hon. Most of the time Valorie doesn't want to know about these things, as protection of the family is my "hat". She entrusts me to ensure that "evil" and things that go "boomph" in the night are confronted. Once in a while though, something crosses her lines like the recent Fluoride legislation here in Clearwater FL and she dons her protester's mantle and you'd think she was a she-wolf protecting her cubs. LOL Wellllllll, this new threat from Bush and his cronies also has her dander up and she's spreading the word on this one too. The only other issue we are majorly concerned about is the possible reintroduction of the DRAFT in 2005 as Bryan will be turning 18 that summer, and I'll be damned if I'm gonna lose my child in some war to line the pockets of Bush and his Oil pumping, pharmaceutical, banking interest buddies. Make no mistake about it. The war in Iraq is not about terrrorism, it's about money. I know, I know, I know ROTFLOL I just opened up a new "Political" line and it is off policy for this list. It's just that I'm so upset with Bush for this final straw (the one that broke the camel's back) of making it mandatory for me and mine to get a psychiatric evalution that I'm dumping all of his shortcomings on him at one time. The man has to go!!!! Love, Doc PS. And Kerry is no better. If this country is going to survive, it needs a shakin' and an awakenin'. Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.727-738-0554DocShillington - Sylvia herbal remedies Thursday, June 24, 2004 4:20 PM Herbal Remedies - Doc/Libertarians Doc,I'd really like to thank you for this thread. It has really opened my eyes to other things that i have quietly brushed under the carpet. Much to DH's efforts, i try not to think about or discuss these subjects at home Or anywhere else for that matter).After you mentioned the Libertarian Pty, i decided to check their website out and was quite supprised to find out that many of their opinions mirror things that have been discussing here recently like Alternative Health care (it's what WE are all about here in HR's), choices on Schooling, insurance and several other sujects.I now realize I have more of a responsibility to myself, family and neighbors than just being aware of what we eat and how we use resources. In a way, this is integral to overall health. I'm going to continue reading and getting involved...Thanks again!Sylvia--- In herbal remedies , "Doc Shillington" <DocShillington@V...> wrote:> > As I said in my original article on this, neither Bush nor Kerry are worthy at this stage of the game and are the pawns of the Giant Pharmaceuticals and the International Bankers.> > This is why I stated they both had to go and that Valorie and I would be supporting the Libertarians this election if only as a protest vote.> > Love,> > DocFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2004 Report Share Posted June 24, 2004 Woohoo, we may have another Libertarian in our midst! I've been registered Libertarian for over a decade now, close to two, I guess. Of course, when my religious friends found out, I was accused of being, shall we say, antiChrist-ian. Ah, well. JohnSylvia <h10feet wrote: Doc,I'd really like to thank you for this thread. It has really opened my eyes to other things that i have quietly brushed under the carpet. Much to DH's efforts, i try not to think about or discuss these subjects at home Or anywhere else for that matter).After you mentioned the Libertarian Pty, i decided to check their website out and was quite supprised to find out that many of their opinions mirror things that have been discussing here recently like Alternative Health care (it's what WE are all about here in HR's), choices on Schooling, insurance and several other sujects.I now realize I have more of a responsibility to myself, family and neighbors than just being aware of what we eat and how we use resources. In a way, this is integral to overall health. I'm going to continue reading and getting involved...Thanks again!Sylvia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2004 Report Share Posted June 24, 2004 It is not a popular action and it will NOT come up before the election. If Bush gets reelected, it'll most likely come up between March and June of 2005. Might happen a little later if Kerry gets in, and won't happen at all if the Libertarians get in. There has been noises in the armed forces of setting up the boards, and these noises don't happen unless it is being seriously considered. You'll notice that neither Bush nor Kerry are openly bringing up the subject, but the armed forces are organizing this behind the scenes. Doc Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.727-738-0554DocShillington - Jasmina Alisic herbal remedies Thursday, June 24, 2004 5:21 PM Re: Herbal Remedies - Doc/Libertarians How possible this Draft thing is? jasminaDoc Shillington <DocShillington wrote: Yer most welcome hon. Most of the time Valorie doesn't want to know about these things, as protection of the family is my "hat". She entrusts me to ensure that "evil" and things that go "boomph" in the night are confronted. Once in a while though, something crosses her lines like the recent Fluoride legislation here in Clearwater FL and she dons her protester's mantle and you'd think she was a she-wolf protecting her cubs. LOL Wellllllll, this new threat from Bush and his cronies also has her dander up and she's spreading the word on this one too. The only other issue we are majorly concerned about is the possible reintroduction of the DRAFT in 2005 as Bryan will be turning 18 that summer, and I'll be damned if I'm gonna lose my child in some war to line the pockets of Bush and his Oil pumping, pharmaceutical, banking interest buddies. Make no mistake about it. The war in Iraq is not about terrrorism, it's about money. I know, I know, I know ROTFLOL I just opened up a new "Political" line and it is off policy for this list. It's just that I'm so upset with Bush for this final straw (the one that broke the camel's back) of making it mandatory for me and mine to get a psychiatric evalution that I'm dumping all of his shortcomings on him at one time. The man has to go!!!! Love, Doc PS. And Kerry is no better. If this country is going to survive, it needs a shakin' and an awakenin'. Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.727-738-0554DocShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2004 Report Share Posted June 24, 2004 <<<<I now realize I have more of a responsibility to myself, family and neighbors than just being aware of what we eat and how we use resources. In a way, this is integral to overall health. I'm going to continue reading and getting involved...Thanks again! Sylvia>>>> " ooooh, nooooo, here comes that woman, Sylvia. It's bad enough we have to listen to her schtik on health foods, nooooooow, she's talking politics. Quick, we can hide in here!!!!!!!!!!!! " LOL Anna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2004 Report Share Posted June 24, 2004 I saw the article on the draft and was horrified as this would apply to my g'sons, nephews AND nieces. Not only that...no more running off to canada to avoid it, or off to college. They're going to take everyone. I'm starting to believe my ancestors (The Mayans), in thinking that 2012 really is going to be the end ...*sigh* Well until then, I have to do as much as I can do maybe change things. Double *SIGH* Sylvia herbal remedies , " Doc Shillington " <DocShillington@V...> wrote: > Yer most welcome hon. > > Most of the time Valorie doesn't want to know about these things, as protection of the family is my " hat " . She entrusts me to ensure that " evil " and things that go " boomph " in the night are confronted. Once in a while though, something crosses her lines like the recent Fluoride legislation here in Clearwater FL and she dons her protester's mantle and you'd think she was a she-wolf protecting her cubs. LOL > > Wellllllll, this new threat from Bush and his cronies also has her dander up and she's spreading the word on this one too. > > The only other issue we are majorly concerned about is the possible reintroduction of the DRAFT in 2005 as Bryan will be turning 18 that summer, and I'll be damned if I'm gonna lose my child in some war to line the pockets of Bush and his Oil pumping, pharmaceutical, banking interest buddies. Make no mistake about it. The war in Iraq is not about terrrorism, it's about money. > > I know, I know, I know ROTFLOL I just opened up a new " Political " line and it is off policy for this list. It's just that I'm so upset with Bush for this final straw (the one that broke the camel's back) of making it mandatory for me and mine to get a psychiatric evalution that I'm dumping all of his shortcomings on him at one time. > > The man has to go!!!! > > Love, > > Doc > > PS. And Kerry is no better. If this country is going to survive, it needs a shakin' and an awakenin'. > > Ian " Doc " Shillington N.D. > 727-738-0554 > DocShillington@V... > - > Sylvia > herbal remedies > Thursday, June 24, 2004 4:20 PM > Herbal Remedies - Doc/Libertarians > > > Doc, > > I'd really like to thank you for this thread. It has really opened > my eyes to other things that i have quietly brushed under the > carpet. Much to DH's efforts, i try not to think about or discuss > these subjects at home Or anywhere else for that matter). > > After you mentioned the Libertarian Pty, i decided to check their > website out and was quite supprised to find out that many of their > opinions mirror things that have been discussing here recently like > Alternative Health care (it's what WE are all about here in HR's), > choices on Schooling, insurance and several other sujects. > > I now realize I have more of a responsibility to myself, family and > neighbors than just being aware of what we eat and how we use > resources. In a way, this is integral to overall health. I'm going > to continue reading and getting involved...Thanks again! > > Sylvia > > herbal remedies , " Doc Shillington " > <DocShillington@V...> wrote: > > > > As I said in my original article on this, neither Bush nor Kerry > are worthy at this stage of the game and are the pawns of the Giant > Pharmaceuticals and the International Bankers. > > > > This is why I stated they both had to go and that Valorie and I > would be supporting the Libertarians this election if only as a > protest vote. > > > > Love, > > > > Doc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2004 Report Share Posted June 25, 2004 <<<<There has been noises in the armed forces of setting up the boards, and these noises don't happen unless it is being seriously considered.>>>> Do you think they will find some way to prevent people from going to Canada for refuge if the draft comes back? That's where my husband and I would have ended up if he hadn't gotten one of the last fatherhood exemptions from the VietNam war. We watched one of his stepbrothers get drafted and the power of the brainwashing was absolutely unbelievable. This young man was totally against it but just could not leave his family so went in. He was a completely different person after boot camp. Anna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2004 Report Share Posted June 25, 2004 Its looking that way john; they appear to have some clean ideals. That anti-christian comment is ridiculous. Seems to me that anyone who does not fight for the right to live the way that god/the creator intended us to is not only out of their tree, but busy being a hypocrite! I'm sure i'll get some flack from my family (all born agains) but in my own eyes and in the eyes of the one who made all that is (no mater what name you know him by) our duty should be to fight for how things were intended to be, NOT how they are or where they are going and for the good of all...not just the privledged or under priv'd. or... i could look into building my self a space ship equipped with herbal remedies and lots of seeds, take my family and bail to some other planet??? ;o) Sylvia herbal remedies , John Ybarra <deuteronomy2929> wrote: > Woohoo, we may have another Libertarian in our midst! I've been registered Libertarian for over a decade now, close to two, I guess. Of course, when my religious friends found out, I was accused of being, shall we say, antiChrist-ian. Ah, well. > > John > > Sylvia <h10feet> wrote: > Doc, > > I'd really like to thank you for this thread. It has really opened > my eyes to other things that i have quietly brushed under the > carpet. Much to DH's efforts, i try not to think about or discuss > these subjects at home Or anywhere else for that matter). > > After you mentioned the Libertarian Pty, i decided to check their > website out and was quite supprised to find out that many of their > opinions mirror things that have been discussing here recently like > Alternative Health care (it's what WE are all about here in HR's), > choices on Schooling, insurance and several other sujects. > > I now realize I have more of a responsibility to myself, family and > neighbors than just being aware of what we eat and how we use > resources. In a way, this is integral to overall health. I'm going > to continue reading and getting involved...Thanks again! > > Sylvia > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2004 Report Share Posted June 25, 2004 I'll be right behind you, with family in tow!! Guido votes to go to Uranus, and laughs when he says it. Go figure. JohnSylvia <h10feet wrote: or... i could look into building my self a space ship equipped with herbal remedies and lots of seeds, take my family and bail to some other planet??? ;o)Sylvia Mail is new and improved - Check it out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2004 Report Share Posted June 25, 2004 We should be so lucky. I don't think that the world can survive long as it is. In 100 years (if we are still here) this will be referred to as the age of madness. -Shelby Sylvia [h10feet] Thursday, June 24, 2004 2:58 PM herbal remedies Re: Herbal Remedies - Doc/Libertarians I saw the article on the draft and was horrified as this would apply to my g'sons, nephews AND nieces. Not only that...no more running off to canada to avoid it, or off to college. They're going to take everyone. I'm starting to believe my ancestors (The Mayans), in thinking that 2012 really is going to be the end ...*sigh* Well until then, I have to do as much as I can do maybe change things. Double *SIGH* Sylvia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2004 Report Share Posted June 25, 2004 Yeah, both my brother and my boyfriend are young enough to go. Liz Doc Shillington [DocShillington] Thursday, June 24, 2004 4:50 PM To: herbal remedies Re: Herbal Remedies - Doc/Libertarians Yer most welcome hon. Most of the time Valorie doesn't want to know about these things, as protection of the family is my " hat " . She entrusts me to ensure that " evil " and things that go " boomph " in the night are confronted. Once in a while though, something crosses her lines like the recent Fluoride legislation here in Clearwater FL and she dons her protester's mantle and you'd think she was a she-wolf protecting her cubs. LOL Wellllllll, this new threat from Bush and his cronies also has her dander up and she's spreading the word on this one too. The only other issue we are majorly concerned about is the possible reintroduction of the DRAFT in 2005 as Bryan will be turning 18 that summer, and I'll be damned if I'm gonna lose my child in some war to line the pockets of Bush and his Oil pumping, pharmaceutical, banking interest buddies. Make no mistake about it. The war in Iraq is not about terrrorism, it's about money. I know, I know, I know ROTFLOL I just opened up a new " Political " line and it is off policy for this list. It's just that I'm so upset with Bush for this final straw (the one that broke the camel's back) of making it mandatory for me and mine to get a psychiatric evalution that I'm dumping all of his shortcomings on him at one time. The man has to go!!!! Love, Doc PS. And Kerry is no better. If this country is going to survive, it needs a shakin' and an awakenin'. Ian " Doc " Shillington N.D. 727-738-0554 DocShillington - Sylvia herbal remedies Thursday, June 24, 2004 4:20 PM Herbal Remedies - Doc/Libertarians Doc, I'd really like to thank you for this thread. It has really opened my eyes to other things that i have quietly brushed under the carpet. Much to DH's efforts, i try not to think about or discuss these subjects at home Or anywhere else for that matter). After you mentioned the Libertarian Pty, i decided to check their website out and was quite supprised to find out that many of their opinions mirror things that have been discussing here recently like Alternative Health care (it's what WE are all about here in HR's), choices on Schooling, insurance and several other sujects. I now realize I have more of a responsibility to myself, family and neighbors than just being aware of what we eat and how we use resources. In a way, this is integral to overall health. I'm going to continue reading and getting involved...Thanks again! Sylvia herbal remedies , " Doc Shillington " <DocShillington@V...> wrote: > > As I said in my original article on this, neither Bush nor Kerry are worthy at this stage of the game and are the pawns of the Giant Pharmaceuticals and the International Bankers. > > This is why I stated they both had to go and that Valorie and I would be supporting the Libertarians this election if only as a protest vote. > > Love, > > Doc Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and to prescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian Shillington Doctor of Naturopathy Dr.IanShillington --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.699 / Virus Database: 456 - Release 6/4/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.699 / Virus Database: 456 - Release 6/4/2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2004 Report Share Posted June 25, 2004 You are too funny Shelby. We always label things and in my Music class my professor asked what to name this era. Your name sounds perfect since we've had the age of reason, it is logical to have the age of madness. That you for you insight. Love and Laughter, Theresa M. Hook hooked_on_travel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2004 Report Share Posted June 26, 2004 If you have some nationalistic ties with Canada, it might be an option. If not, I'd say no. My son Bryan though born in the States is half Canadian through me. If we were to move there, he'd be granted citizenship with little hassle. Once this occurred he would not be extradited to the US even though the US requested it. Doc Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.727-738-0554DocShillington - Anna herbal remedies Thursday, June 24, 2004 7:00 PM Re: Herbal Remedies - Doc/Libertarians <<<<There has been noises in the armed forces of setting up the boards, and these noises don't happen unless it is being seriously considered.>>>>Do you think they will find some way to prevent people from going to Canada for refuge if the draft comes back? That's where my husband and I would have ended up if he hadn't gotten one of the last fatherhood exemptions from the VietNam war. We watched one of his stepbrothers get drafted and the power of the brainwashing was absolutely unbelievable. This young man was totally against it but just could not leave his family so went in. He was a completely different person after boot camp.Anna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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