Liz/was plans to screen US population for mental illness

[Guest guest]

I'm confused Liz, i was confirming exactly what you just said LOL.

 

I totally agree that you/me/we are not where we need to be as a

people to thrive. Especially when we dont conform to the norm as it

is dictated by the govt or the media.

 

Sylvia

 

herbal remedies , " fyrespryte "

<fyrespryte@e...> wrote:

> <<Yes it is about the almighty dollar and what we can feed back

into

> the system, but if you think about it... if one is not contributing

> to society because they are " ILL " then it would be in the govt's

best

> interest to identify those that are not, and retrain them to be

> functional and PROFITABLE! - Sylvia >>

>

>

>

> In a truly ideal world I would most definitely agree with you

Sylvia. The

> problem is that with two superpowers, one being the government and

the other

> being the pharmaceutical companies, being in charge of this whole

thing,

> there is no way I see this being in the people or society as a

wholes

> interest. My first thought is that we are already having so many

problems

> with our children. I came upon a theory the other day while talking

with a

> co-worker. Parents for the most part are so busy trying to survive

that they

> have very little effort left over for there children….sad yes…not

true in a

> lot of cases…yes….but I see it everyday. Then once a child starts

having

> problems because he's not getting A) the right nutrition b) the

right

> excersize c) enough attention they start exhibiting signs of

hyperactivity,

> depression, autism…and a host of other problems. The parent,

frazzled

> already, their first inclination is to take the child to the doctor

and

> because they are gods in their world they take it as gospel when,

within the

> first 15 min of being with the child diagnosis him or her and

prescribes

> drugs A B or C.

>

>

>

> This leaves entirely too much open. Adults are a whole other matter

but

> specifically for children. My boyfriend and I are a perfect

example. Neither

> one of us could be called " normal " I have learning disabilities in

some

> areas. George has an extremely high IQ a very developed imagination

and can

> be quite hyperactive. We both have fought with bouts of manic

> depressiveness. If you put all of this together in a child which we

hope

> someday to have, we have the potential for a child who needs lot's

of extra

> love, attention and understanding. Something that they would only

get at

> home because the school systems are so terrible. Now if we didn't

have the

> resources to homeschool or to send them to private school, no doubt

when the

> " auditors " came in and saw our child being hyperactive, with low

grades

> because he was most likely board because they refused to test them

for

> giftedness or learning disabilities (this happened to a friend of

mines

> child) the first thing they'd do is put them on drugs. I don't

know…. It

> just terrifies me that so many of our rights have already been

taken away

> and more are every day. People get so caught up in drama of

religion and

> morality that the politicians put up as a front and don't bother to

look

> behind the scenes at what is going on. I'll be curious to see what

happens

> in the coming months and years. I'll tell you what though, the

worse it

> gets, the more doubtful I become about even having children.

>

>

>

> Liz

>

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[Guest guest]

I’m sorry, I was probably confused

myself. It was very very late and I was almost incoherent with the day I’d

had, but of course instead of just going to bed I had to throw my two cents

worth in.

J Liz

 

 

 

 

 

Sylvia

[h10feet]

Thursday, June 24, 2004 2:06

PM

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plans to screen US

population for mental illness

 

 

I'm confused Liz, i was confirming exactly what you just said LOL.

 

I totally agree that you/me/we are not where we

need to be as a

people to thrive. Especially when we dont

conform to the norm as it

is dictated by the govt or the media.

 

Sylvia

 

herbal remedies ,

" fyrespryte "

<fyrespryte@e...> wrote:

> <<Yes it is about the almighty dollar

and what we can feed back

into

> the system, but if you think about it... if

one is not contributing

> to society because they are " ILL " then it would

be in the govt's

best

> interest to identify those that are not, and

retrain them to be

> functional and PROFITABLE! - Sylvia >>

>

>

>

> In a truly ideal world I would most

definitely agree with you

Sylvia. The

> problem is that with two superpowers, one

being the government and

the other

> being the pharmaceutical companies, being in

charge of this whole

thing,

> there is no way I see this being in the

people or society as a

wholes

> interest. My first thought is that we are already

having so many

problems

> with our children. I came upon a theory the

other day while talking

with a

> co-worker. Parents for the most part are so

busy trying to survive

that they

> have very little effort left over for there

children….sad yes…not

true in a

> lot of cases…yes….but I see it

everyday. Then once a child starts

having

> problems because he's not getting A) the

right nutrition b) the

right

> excersize c) enough attention they start

exhibiting signs of

hyperactivity,

> depression, autism…and a host of other

problems. The parent,

frazzled

> already, their first inclination is to take

the child to the doctor

and

> because they are gods in their world they

take it as gospel when,

within the

> first 15 min of being with the child diagnosis

him or her and

prescribes

> drugs A B or C.

>

>

>

> This leaves entirely too much open. Adults

are a whole other matter

but

> specifically for children. My boyfriend and I

are a perfect

example. Neither

> one of us could be called " normal " I

have learning disabilities in

some

> areas. George has an extremely high IQ a very

developed imagination

and can

> be quite hyperactive. We both have fought

with bouts of manic

> depressiveness. If you put all of this

together in a child which we

hope

> someday to have, we have the potential for a

child who needs lot's

of extra

> love, attention and understanding. Something

that they would only

get at

> home because the school systems are so

terrible. Now if we didn't

have the

> resources to homeschool or to send them to

private school, no doubt

when the

> " auditors " came in and saw our

child being hyperactive, with low

grades

> because he was most likely board because they

refused to test them

for

> giftedness or learning disabilities (this

happened to a friend of

mines

> child) the first thing they'd do is put them

on drugs. I don't

know…. It

> just terrifies me that so many of our rights

have already been

taken away

> and more are every day. People get so caught

up in drama of

religion and

> morality that the politicians put up as a

front and don't bother to

look

> behind the scenes at what is going on. I'll

be curious to see what

happens

> in the coming months and years. I'll tell you

what though, the

worse it

> gets, the more doubtful I become about even

having children.

>

>

>

> Liz

>

>

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