Guest guest Posted June 17, 2004 Report Share Posted June 17, 2004 I made this last week and have been taking it along with 400 IU of Vitamin E. I just wanted to say that I LOVE this stuff. It is so very yummy!! I mix it in with my TT in the morning and it makes the TT taste pretty much go away!! I was just wondering if it is okay to take it twice a day...or will that cause any kinds of ill effects? I take my TT twice a day which is why I ask. Also, is this okay to give to my son who is 11? He wants to try it also...especially since I told him that it was good. Is that alright? I did give him some TN this morning for the first time....and he pretty much spit most of it out. I told him he had to give it a week, because now that I have been taking it and I am trying it Sylvia's way...in just enough juice to make it liquid and drinking it quickly it sure is easier to get it all down. I am having him do it this way, but he has the same smell/taste issue I had at first and gets it in his mouth and then pretty much gags and has to spit it out. He did get some down this morning so I told him he had to try every morning for the next week. That is about the time it took for me to be able to take it without holding my nose the whole time! lol I also bought some MSM in bulk and have been adding it to water. It really doesn't have any flavor so it doesn't affect the taste of the water. I did a small test by putting some directly on my tongue first and it was really nothing at all so I knew adding it to water would work. My question with this is...how much should I take per day? I basically just add a pinch or so to my bottle of water. That should be plenty right?? Thanks for everyone's help!! Caroline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2004 Report Share Posted June 17, 2004 LOL I'm glad that PP/TT " BBQ Sauce " thing has worked for you. This is the only way i can take mine. I gave some to my 5yr old G-son a couple of times. Mostly because i wanted to get the TT into him and i knew that the PP would make it easier for him. I gave him a smaller dose than i take though. I guess you could use the Dose rule for him..I think it's in the files. Sylvia herbal remedies , " Caroline " <ladyguinevere@e...> wrote: > I made this last week and have been taking it along with 400 IU of Vitamin E. I just wanted to say that I LOVE this stuff. It is so very yummy!! I mix it in with my TT in the morning and it makes the TT taste pretty much go away!! I was just wondering if it is okay to take it twice a day...or will that cause any kinds of ill effects? I take my TT twice a day which is why I ask. > > Also, is this okay to give to my son who is 11? He wants to try it also...especially since I told him that it was good. Is that alright? > > I did give him some TN this morning for the first time....and he pretty much spit most of it out. I told him he had to give it a week, because now that I have been taking it and I am trying it Sylvia's way...in just enough juice to make it liquid and drinking it quickly it sure is easier to get it all down. I am having him do it this way, but he has the same smell/taste issue I had at first and gets it in his mouth and then pretty much gags and has to spit it out. He did get some down this morning so I told him he had to try every morning for the next week. That is about the time it took for me to be able to take it without holding my nose the whole time! lol > > I also bought some MSM in bulk and have been adding it to water. It really doesn't have any flavor so it doesn't affect the taste of the water. I did a small test by putting some directly on my tongue first and it was really nothing at all so I knew adding it to water would work. My question with this is...how much should I take per day? I basically just add a pinch or so to my bottle of water. That should be plenty right?? > > Thanks for everyone's help!! > Caroline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2004 Report Share Posted June 17, 2004 Caroline- I add 1 or 2 bananas, 1 apple and some strawberries to my Total Nutrition drink in the morning and it is fabulous...maybe this will help.....also the 2 raw organic eggs I throw in seem to help with the consistency....I actually crave my TN creation when I wake up in the morning.... Good Luck, Rob Caroline [ladyguinevere] Thu 6/17/2004 9:57 AM HERbal_Remedies Cc: Herbal Remedies - Panther Piss - TT - MSM I made this last week and have been taking it along with 400 IU of Vitamin E. I just wanted to say that I LOVE this stuff. It is so very yummy!! I mix it in with my TT in the morning and it makes the TT taste pretty much go away!! I was just wondering if it is okay to take it twice a day...or will that cause any kinds of ill effects? I take my TT twice a day which is why I ask. Also, is this okay to give to my son who is 11? He wants to try it also...especially since I told him that it was good. Is that alright? I did give him some TN this morning for the first time....and he pretty much spit most of it out. I told him he had to give it a week, because now that I have been taking it and I am trying it Sylvia's way...in just enough juice to make it liquid and drinking it quickly it sure is easier to get it all down. I am having him do it this way, but he has the same smell/taste issue I had at first and gets it in his mouth and then pretty much gags and has to spit it out. He did get some down this morning so I told him he had to try every morning for the next week. That is about the time it took for me to be able to take it without holding my nose the whole time! lol I also bought some MSM in bulk and have been adding it to water. It really doesn't have any flavor so it doesn't affect the taste of the water. I did a small test by putting some directly on my tongue first and it was really nothing at all so I knew adding it to water would work. My question with this is...how much should I take per day? I basically just add a pinch or so to my bottle of water. That should be plenty right?? Thanks for everyone's help!! Caroline Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and to prescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian Shillington Doctor of Naturopathy Dr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2004 Report Share Posted June 17, 2004  Rob, If my son still has a problem taking the TN after the next day or so I will try the bananas along with some other fruits...although when I first made a smoothie with it he about threw up so I honestly don't know what to do with this kid. At least HE likes bananas...lol...I can't stand them! I am hoping we can just get by with taking it in the morning with fresh apple juice. He has no problem taking the TT for me...takes that like a trooper. But that TN is giving him trouble...he has those same issues as me...the smell just gags him. I will figure it out though...I told him that I was determined!! lol Caroline Caroline- I add 1 or 2 bananas, 1 apple and some strawberries to my Total Nutrition drink in the morning and it is fabulous...maybe this will help.....also the 2 raw organic eggs I throw in seem to help with the consistency....I actually crave my TN creation when I wake up in the morning.... Good Luck, Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2004 Report Share Posted June 17, 2004 Sylvia Actually I had no problem taking the TT. Adding the Panther Piss to it was done accidentally the other day...and it was great!! lol You did help me with taking my TN though...for sure. You said you make it in as little liquid as you can stand and chug it down. This was very scary to me when you said it...but decided I had to be a big girl about all of this and give it a shot...and this is really the best way for me. I had to do with my nose plugged for a few days...to make it go down. But now I can do it like a big girl and just drink it down in a few gulps. I then rinse my cup with some juice to finish it off since so much of it sticks to the sides...and that seems to be good for me. As long as I take it...that is all that matters!! Caroline - Sylvia herbal remedies Thursday, June 17, 2004 1:38 PM Herbal Remedies - Re: Panther Piss - TT - MSM LOL I'm glad that PP/TT "BBQ Sauce" thing has worked for you. This is the only way i can take mine.I gave some to my 5yr old G-son a couple of times. Mostly because i wanted to get the TT into him and i knew that the PP would make it easier for him. I gave him a smaller dose than i take though.I guess you could use the Dose rule for him..I think it's in the files.Sylviaherbal remedies , "Caroline" <ladyguinevere@e...> wrote:> I made this last week and have been taking it along with 400 IU of Vitamin E. I just wanted to say that I LOVE this stuff. It is so very yummy!! I mix it in with my TT in the morning and it makes the TT taste pretty much go away!! I was just wondering if it is okay to take it twice a day...or will that cause any kinds of ill effects? I take my TT twice a day which is why I ask.> > Also, is this okay to give to my son who is 11? He wants to try it also...especially since I told him that it was good. Is that alright?> > I did give him some TN this morning for the first time....and he pretty much spit most of it out. I told him he had to give it a week, because now that I have been taking it and I am trying it Sylvia's way...in just enough juice to make it liquid and drinking it quickly it sure is easier to get it all down. I am having him do it this way, but he has the same smell/taste issue I had at first and gets it in his mouth and then pretty much gags and has to spit it out. He did get some down this morning so I told him he had to try every morning for the next week. That is about the time it took for me to be able to take it without holding my nose the whole time! lol> > I also bought some MSM in bulk and have been adding it to water. It really doesn't have any flavor so it doesn't affect the taste of the water. I did a small test by putting some directly on my tongue first and it was really nothing at all so I knew adding it to water would work. My question with this is...how much should I take per day? I basically just add a pinch or so to my bottle of water. That should be plenty right??> > Thanks for everyone's help!!> CarolineFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2004 Report Share Posted June 17, 2004 Hi Caroline, The dosage I've seen for PP is 1 tablespoon 2X per day. You can do it 3X per day to start with (for about a month), and then go down to 2X per day. Make sure and take 400 IU Vit E for each Tspoon of PP you take. Certainly you can give TT/PP to your son! As Sylvia mentioned, you may want to change the dosage. Check out the "150 rule" in the files. I don't know the dosage on MSM off hand. I can look it up for you if no one else responds. :)Kelli Caroline [ladyguinevere] Thursday, June 17, 2004 6:58 AMHERbal_Remedies Subject: Herbal Remedies - Panther Piss - TT - MSM I was just wondering if it is okay to take it twice a day...or will that cause any kinds of ill effects? I take my TT twice a day which is why I ask. Also, is this okay to give to my son who is 11? He wants to try it also...especially since I told him that it was good. Is that alright? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2004 Report Share Posted June 17, 2004 Hi Caroline, How about cutting the dose of the TN to start with and then work it up once he's more used to the taste and texture? KelliCaroline [ladyguinevere] Thursday, June 17, 2004 2:09 PMherbal remedies Subject: Re: Herbal Remedies - Panther Piss - TT - MSMBut that TN is giving him trouble...he has those same issues as me...the smell just gags him. I will figure it out though...I told him that I was determined!! lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2004 Report Share Posted June 17, 2004  Kelli, I will definitely try that if he still has such a hard time tomorrow. He is not begging to give up yet, so I will do whatever it takes to get him on this. I keep telling him he only has to take HALF of what I am taking...so he should feel bad for me!! lol He just laughs and says he still feels bad for himself anyway! lol But he is willing to give it a try and keep trying...so I am delighted with that. He knows that it is for the best and I wouldn't insist on it if it wasn't good for him. He decided that he would rather try to force all of those down than to be forced to go on a totally raw diet...lol...compromises...see?? LOL Caroline - Kelli Bever herbal remedies Thursday, June 17, 2004 6:18 PM RE: Herbal Remedies - Panther Piss - TT - MSM Hi Caroline, How about cutting the dose of the TN to start with and then work it up once he's more used to the taste and texture? Kelli Caroline [ladyguinevere] Thursday, June 17, 2004 2:09 PMherbal remedies Subject: Re: Herbal Remedies - Panther Piss - TT - MSM But that TN is giving him trouble...he has those same issues as me...the smell just gags him. I will figure it out though...I told him that I was determined!! lol Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2004 Report Share Posted June 17, 2004 Thanks...this is great information Kelli. I hadn't realized it was 400 IU of Vit E per Tbsp...I will make that correction starting today. In the files it says to take the Vitamin E to compensate for the effects of the organic Iron in the Molasses....can someone explain to me what exactly that means?? My son is exactly 50% by the 150 rule...he gets half of each dose of everything I take. So I will just give him half Tbsp with his dropper full of TT. Now I just need to make sure I am taking the right amount of MSM and all is good for now! At least until I can get a good colon cleanse in! I will, however, be giving the 3 day juice cleanse a try with John and company the weekend of the 25th...so hopefully that will do a little something!! Caroline Hi Caroline, The dosage I've seen for PP is 1 tablespoon 2X per day. You can do it 3X per day to start with (for about a month), and then go down to 2X per day. Make sure and take 400 IU Vit E for each Tspoon of PP you take. Certainly you can give TT/PP to your son! As Sylvia mentioned, you may want to change the dosage. Check out the "150 rule" in the files. I don't know the dosage on MSM off hand. I can look it up for you if no one else responds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2004 Report Share Posted June 18, 2004 Oh, that's good thinking! I guess I should threaten my daughter with an all raw diet as well to see if I can get her to drink the TN! LOL!! That's great that he's willing and you're persistent! Keep it up!! :)KelliCaroline [ladyguinevere] Thursday, June 17, 2004 3:33 PMherbal remedies Subject: Re: Herbal Remedies - Panther Piss - TT - MSMHe decided that he would rather try to force all of those down than to be forced to go on a totally raw diet...lol...compromises...see?? LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2004 Report Share Posted June 18, 2004 There's info in the archives on this Caroline. I hate saying that seeing how uncooperative the archives usually are. If you can't find it, yell and I'll try and help you look. :)Kelli Caroline [ladyguinevere] Thursday, June 17, 2004 3:40 PMherbal remedies Subject: Re: Herbal Remedies - Panther Piss - TT - MSM In the files it says to take the Vitamin E to compensate for the effects of the organic Iron in the Molasses....can someone explain to me what exactly that means?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2004 Report Share Posted June 18, 2004 I don't find the archives to be uncooperative...as long as you know the right words to use to search...and you definitely have to have the patience to do so...because you go through a LOT of stuff that has nothing to do with what you are looking for. Do you know approximately how long ago the information was discussed? That gives me at least a better range of message numbers to look through...which can be a big time saver. If not, then maybe a suggestion for search words that the topic was under? I am a bit obsessive about the messages that we get here in the group...when I find something of interest to me I put it into a folder so that when I need it I can go to that folder and look it up. I am also working on a notebook to put all of my information in so that I have anything that I need right at my finger tips. I print out zillions of things...lol Caroline There's info in the archives on this Caroline. I hate saying that seeing how uncooperative the archives usually are. If you can't find it, yell and I'll try and help you look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2004 Report Share Posted June 18, 2004 Okay I did find a message that simply said that Iron depletes the Vitamin E out of our bodies, which is why we take it along with the Panther Piss. For now, this satisfies me!! lol Caroline - Kelli Bever herbal remedies Thursday, June 17, 2004 7:59 PM RE: Herbal Remedies - Panther Piss - TT - MSM There's info in the archives on this Caroline. I hate saying that seeing how uncooperative the archives usually are. If you can't find it, yell and I'll try and help you look. :)Kelli Caroline [ladyguinevere] Thursday, June 17, 2004 3:40 PMherbal remedies Subject: Re: Herbal Remedies - Panther Piss - TT - MSM In the files it says to take the Vitamin E to compensate for the effects of the organic Iron in the Molasses....can someone explain to me what exactly that means?? Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2004 Report Share Posted June 18, 2004 Well, I think that if you looked for "molasses, iron" or something like that. It was definitely a few months ago at least. Sorry I can't give you more pointers than that... I guess now is as good a time as any to let everyone know about a project I want to work on for this group - I want to create an index of the archived messages so that whenever someone has a question like yours, you can just look in the index and click to the pertinent messages. The archives are just too much of a pain for most people, including me. This project would be easier to work on right now if the email messages for the group actually had the message number in them, then I could just do this as I go through the messages. Since they don't, however, I'm going to have to manually go through the archives and that's going to take a while. If anyone has lists of message numbers that they've saved and want to share that with me, maybe I could get started on this now. It seems that we're all trying to come up with different solutions for archiving our own copy of the information and it seems like we've got better things to spend our time on! :)Kelli Caroline [ladyguinevere] Thursday, June 17, 2004 5:14 PMherbal remedies Subject: Re: Herbal Remedies - Panther Piss - TT - MSM I don't find the archives to be uncooperative...as long as you know the right words to use to search... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2004 Report Share Posted June 18, 2004 How are you all taking the TT on a regular daily basis, in what form I mean. It’s a mash correct? Or are you tincturing it? Liz Caroline [ladyguinevere] Thursday, June 17, 2004 5:24 PM herbal remedies Re: Herbal Remedies - Re: Panther Piss - TT - MSM Sylvia Actually I had no problem taking the TT. Adding the Panther Piss to it was done accidentally the other day...and it was great!! lol You did help me with taking my TN though...for sure. You said you make it in as little liquid as you can stand and chug it down. This was very scary to me when you said it...but decided I had to be a big girl about all of this and give it a shot...and this is really the best way for me. I had to do with my nose plugged for a few days...to make it go down. But now I can do it like a big girl and just drink it down in a few gulps. I then rinse my cup with some juice to finish it off since so much of it sticks to the sides...and that seems to be good for me. As long as I take it...that is all that matters!! Caroline - Sylvia herbal remedies Thursday, June 17, 2004 1:38 PM Herbal Remedies - Re: Panther Piss - TT - MSM LOL I'm glad that PP/TT " BBQ Sauce " thing has worked for you. This is the only way i can take mine. I gave some to my 5yr old G-son a couple of times. Mostly because i wanted to get the TT into him and i knew that the PP would make it easier for him. I gave him a smaller dose than i take though. I guess you could use the Dose rule for him..I think it's in the files. Sylvia herbal remedies , " Caroline " <ladyguinevere@e...> wrote: > I made this last week and have been taking it along with 400 IU of Vitamin E. I just wanted to say that I LOVE this stuff. It is so very yummy!! I mix it in with my TT in the morning and it makes the TT taste pretty much go away!! I was just wondering if it is okay to take it twice a day...or will that cause any kinds of ill effects? I take my TT twice a day which is why I ask. > > Also, is this okay to give to my son who is 11? He wants to try it also...especially since I told him that it was good. Is that alright? > > I did give him some TN this morning for the first time....and he pretty much spit most of it out. I told him he had to give it a week, because now that I have been taking it and I am trying it Sylvia's way...in just enough juice to make it liquid and drinking it quickly it sure is easier to get it all down. I am having him do it this way, but he has the same smell/taste issue I had at first and gets it in his mouth and then pretty much gags and has to spit it out. He did get some down this morning so I told him he had to try every morning for the next week. That is about the time it took for me to be able to take it without holding my nose the whole time! lol > > I also bought some MSM in bulk and have been adding it to water. It really doesn't have any flavor so it doesn't affect the taste of the water. I did a small test by putting some directly on my tongue first and it was really nothing at all so I knew adding it to water would work. My question with this is...how much should I take per day? I basically just add a pinch or so to my bottle of water. That should be plenty right?? > > Thanks for everyone's help!! > Caroline Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and to prescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian Shillington Doctor of Naturopathy Dr.IanShillington Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and to prescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian Shillington Doctor of Naturopathy Dr.IanShillington --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.699 / Virus Database: 456 - Release 6/4/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.699 / Virus Database: 456 - Release 6/4/2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2004 Report Share Posted June 18, 2004 I use it as a tincture, and dehydrate the pulp, grind it, and use it as a condiment. **Guido wants to make a joke about my statement. I ain't gonna let him** Johnfyrespryte <fyrespryte wrote: How are you all taking the TT on a regular daily basis, in what form I mean. It’s a mash correct? Or are you tincturing it? Liz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2004 Report Share Posted June 20, 2004 Do you dehydrate the pulp that’s leftover from the tincture? What’s been soaked in the alcohol. John Ybarra [deuteronomy2929] Friday, June 18, 2004 8:55 AM herbal remedies RE: Herbal Remedies - Re: Panther Piss - TT - MSM I use it as a tincture, and dehydrate the pulp, grind it, and use it as a condiment. **Guido wants to make a joke about my statement. I ain't gonna let him** John --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.699 / Virus Database: 456 - Release 6/4/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.699 / Virus Database: 456 - Release 6/4/2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2004 Report Share Posted June 20, 2004 I use apple cider vinegar for my Total Tonic, not alcohol, but yes, I do dehydrate the pulp before I grind it in a coffee grinder. Johnfyrespryte <fyrespryte wrote: Do you dehydrate the pulp that’s leftover from the tincture? What’s been soaked in the alcohol. Mail is new and improved - Check it out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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