Suzi and Kelli Cleanse / Fast / Medication Concern

June 15, 2004

Add to these concerns, the fear that I could clot again and if that happens I'll LOSE all the progress I've made already which happened to me once already 5 years ago and from which I"m still recovering, and I have all the more reason to wait to try such a feat until I have the real professional help I need.

I dunno. It sure sounds like I'm talking myself out of the juice fast even, which is no doubt at least part of the reason I keep chickening out around dinner time, and eating a real meal. Still, trying to keep it as healthy as I can under the circumstances, and fruit instead of candy and other sweets.

Frustrated as Usual,

Cathie

In a message dated 6/15/2004 6:13:18 PM Mountain Daylight Time, SophiasDream writes:

What makes me afraid to do a total cleanse, be it a fast or otherwise, at this time, is knowing how my diet affects my protime. My protime will probably go through the roof (i.e. my blood will bcome too thin) and the coumadin eat a hole in my gut -- I have no doubt that these things would radically affect my protime.

I feel I would best do a cleanse with supervision -- at a time when I can afford supervision, and at that time perhaps it could also be streamlined with an attempt to get OFF the coumadin.

It sounds to me like an entire lifestyle change that will absorb all my time and focus, as well as involving outside support --

Will of steel aside, that's one of my big concerns about fasting at this time. Still and all, I have been mulling, and trying to build up the courage, feeling I will be insecure day by day and need to go daily for a protiem, at which time the lab will aske me why i'm going in daily for protimes, and I'll have to say I'm fasting and the shit will hit teh fan they'll tryi to talk me down from my nerves of steel.

The only way I feel upon serious consideration I would undertake such a thing would be at a time when I can devote my total COMPLETE focus to it, AND have the outside support ( and have the Funds for the outside support ) of somebody like Doc --

Blessings and Hugz, to All,

Cathie

June 15, 2004

Hi Suzie,

Funny you should mention the garlic. Last year I put some bulbs around my rosemary and tomatoes, not really expecting they would grow, but thinking at least they'd keep the bugs away, and this spring there was a strange almost reedlike or onion like plant growing. I suspected perhaps garlic but wasn't sure. Pulled it up and sure enough -- a single rather large clove of garlic...

I was thinking about planting some... So it's good to know to put them in the ground in the fall... and wait...

Peace,

Cathie

In a message dated 6/15/2004 7:33:03 PM Mountain Daylight Time, suziesgoats writes:

For planting garlic you do it in the fall , if you have any flower gardens..plant some garlic cloves in with them... it will come up in the spring.

You know your body and what you can and can't do at this time and what you can do a little at a time to help yourself. We're all here for you.

Suzi

June 15, 2004

In a message dated 6/15/2004 8:02:37 PM Mountain Daylight Time, suziesgoats writes:

You can tell garlic by tasting the leaf or reed...

Suzi

aha ... good to know -- thanks ...

June 16, 2004

Cathie,

Eating healthier is a good start... do you take cayenne... read up on it.. Everyone has to start somewhere and do what they can... Heathier eating habits, drinking more lemon water, etc.. is a good place to start..and will help. If you can buy veggies from farmers markets etc in the summer when they are cheaper, you can freeze or can them.. for better eating in the winter.. If you can buy in bulk at times this helps also..

For planting garlic you do it in the fall , if you have any flower gardens..plant some garlic cloves in with them... it will come up in the spring.

You know your body and what you can and can't do at this time and what you can do a little at a time to help yourself. We're all here for you.

SuziSophiasDream wrote:

Add to these concerns, the fear that I could clot again and if that happens I'll LOSE all the progress I've made already which happened to me once already 5 years ago and from which I"m still recovering, and I have all the more reason to wait to try such a feat until I have the real professional help I need.I dunno. It sure sounds like I'm talking myself out of the juice fast even, which is no doubt at least part of the reason I keep chickening out around dinner time, and eating a real meal. Still, trying to keep it as healthy as I can under the circumstances, and fruit instead of candy and other sweets.Frustrated as Usual,CathieIn a message dated 6/15/2004 6:13:18 PM Mountain Daylight Time, SophiasDream writes:

What makes me afraid to do a total cleanse, be it a fast or otherwise, at this time, is knowing how my diet affects my protime. My protime will probably go through the roof (i.e. my blood will bcome too thin) and the coumadin eat a hole in my gut -- I have no doubt that these things would radically affect my protime. I feel I would best do a cleanse with supervision -- at a time when I can afford supervision, and at that time perhaps it could also be streamlined with an attempt to get OFF the coumadin. It sounds to me like an entire lifestyle change that will absorb all my time and focus, as well as involving outside support -- Will of steel aside, that's one of my big concerns about fasting at this time. Still and all, I have been

mulling, and trying to build up the courage, feeling I will be insecure day by day and need to go daily for a protiem, at which time the lab will aske me why i'm going in daily for protimes, and I'll have to say I'm fasting and the shit will hit teh fan they'll tryi to talk me down from my nerves of steel.The only way I feel upon serious consideration I would undertake such a thing would be at a time when I can devote my total COMPLETE focus to it, AND have the outside support ( and have the Funds for the outside support ) of somebody like Doc -- Blessings and Hugz, to All,CathieFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods

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June 16, 2004

You can tell garlic by tasting the leaf or reed...

SuziSophiasDream wrote:

Hi Suzie, Funny you should mention the garlic. Last year I put some bulbs around my rosemary and tomatoes, not really expecting they would grow, but thinking at least they'd keep the bugs away, and this spring there was a strange almost reedlike or onion like plant growing. I suspected perhaps garlic but wasn't sure. Pulled it up and sure enough -- a single rather large clove of garlic... I was thinking about planting some... So it's good to know to put them in the ground in the fall... and wait...Peace,CathieIn a message dated 6/15/2004 7:33:03 PM Mountain Daylight Time, suziesgoats writes:

For planting garlic you do it in the fall , if you have any flower gardens..plant some garlic cloves in with them... it will come up in the spring. You know your body and what you can and can't do at this time and what you can do a little at a time to help yourself. We're all here for you.SuziFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person

following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

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