Guest guest Posted June 15, 2004 Report Share Posted June 15, 2004 I had to jump in here cuz I LOVE the sun. I read a book some years ago that said it was poor nutrition and especially BAD OILS in our diets ( which go to the skin and get burned in by the sun ) that cause cancer, and not the sun itself, alone. My grandfather was in WWI in Borneo, and came down with Gang Green somehow on his face. They were out on a U-boat all day every day and he says the Sun Burned the Gang Green off his face. His face was smooth and his skin healthy with no sign he'd ever had gang green. He never had any form of skin troubles or skin cancer. I know a person ahs to be careful not to burn, but I've read articles suggesting that sunscreen has more cancer causing agents than the sun does. I think some articles to that effect were posted on this group a little over a year ago. As for me, personally, I only use sun screan if I'm going to be in the sun so long I fear I may burn, or if I've already burned to protect my skin from further damage. My mom is a sun worshipper and sun bathes regularly and is always brown and she has no skin cancer only healthy skin -- but she also eats no bad oils, and in general ,a very healthy diet. I think if a person eats french fries and doughnuts, the combination of bad oils in the skin combined with the burning in effect of the ultraviolet rays, may be a danger. Peace, Cathie In a message dated 6/15/2004 7:25:48 AM Mountain Daylight Time, deuteronomy2929 writes: If our bodies are already capable of fighting any negative effects of the sun (diet, skin care, lots of pineapple and papaya, etc), do we really need a sunblock to block out the "harmful rays of the sun"? John Suzanne <suziesgoats wrote: I know there are some members who have used it that way but can't remember who it was.. Suzi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2004 Report Share Posted June 15, 2004 If our bodies are already capable of fighting any negative effects of the sun (diet, skin care, lots of pineapple and papaya, etc), do we really need a sunblock to block out the "harmful rays of the sun"? JohnSuzanne <suziesgoats wrote: I know there are some members who have used it that way but can't remember who it was.. Suzi Read only the mail you want - Mail SpamGuard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2004 Report Share Posted June 15, 2004 Thank you. Very good point. Great story too. Zeb I had to jump in here cuz I LOVE the sun.I read a book some years ago that said it was poor nutrition and especially BAD OILS in our diets ( which go to the skin and get burned in by the sun ) that cause cancer, and not the sun itself, alone.My grandfather was in WWI in Borneo, and came down with Gang Green somehow on his face. They were out on a U-boat all day every day and he says the Sun Burned the Gang Green off his face. His face was smooth and his skin healthy with no sign he'd ever had gang green. He never had any form of skin troubles or skin cancer.I know a person ahs to be careful not to burn, but I've read articles suggesting that sunscreen has more cancer causing agents than the sun does. I think some articles to that effect were posted on this group a little over a year ago. As for me, personally, I only use sun screan if I'm going to be in the sun so long I fear I may burn, or if I've already burned to protect my skin from further damage.My mom is a sun worshipper and sun bathes regularly and is always brown and she has no skin cancer only healthy skin -- but she also eats no bad oils, and in general ,a very healthy diet.I think if a person eats french fries and doughnuts, the combination of bad oils in the skin combined with the burning in effect of the ultraviolet rays, may be a danger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2004 Report Share Posted June 15, 2004 Some of us do! If I'm going to be outside for longer than 2 hours I need one or I'll get really sick and REALLY burned. I've had a burn so bad I touched my ear and the skin came right off. Candace - John Ybarra herbal remedies Tuesday, June 15, 2004 8:24 AM Herbal Remedies - sunblock If our bodies are already capable of fighting any negative effects of the sun (diet, skin care, lots of pineapple and papaya, etc), do we really need a sunblock to block out the "harmful rays of the sun"? JohnSuzanne <suziesgoats wrote: I know there are some members who have used it that way but can't remember who it was.. Suzi Read only the mail you want - Mail SpamGuard. Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2004 Report Share Posted June 15, 2004 I used las summer St Johns Worth oil for my husband who was like 6hrs on the beach to get ten in one day, and he did not have bad burns. Usualy he would have. jasminaCandace Podratz <CandaceAndBrock wrote: Some of us do! If I'm going to be outside for longer than 2 hours I need one or I'll get really sick and REALLY burned. I've had a burn so bad I touched my ear and the skin came right off. Candace - John Ybarra herbal remedies Tuesday, June 15, 2004 8:24 AM Herbal Remedies - sunblock If our bodies are already capable of fighting any negative effects of the sun (diet, skin care, lots of pineapple and papaya, etc), do we really need a sunblock to block out the "harmful rays of the sun"? JohnSuzanne <suziesgoats wrote: I know there are some members who have used it that way but can't remember who it was.. Suzi Read only the mail you want - Mail SpamGuard. Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington u Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2004 Report Share Posted June 16, 2004 You bring up a great point. Does one use a sunblock to prevent sunburn, or to minimize skin cancer? If the latter, then other methods would seem to suffice. If the former, then why use chemicals on our bodies when simply using clothing and hats, etc, would work better without the harmful effects? Convenience? I wonder.................. JohnCandace Podratz <CandaceAndBrock wrote: Some of us do! If I'm going to be outside for longer than 2 hours I need one or I'll get really sick and REALLY burned. I've had a burn so bad I touched my ear and the skin came right off. Candace Mail - You care about security. So do we. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2004 Report Share Posted June 16, 2004 ~picturing myself in a sombrero fully covered in clothing on a 95 degree day~ Mmmmmmm Aint Happening! : ) Candace - John Ybarra herbal remedies Tuesday, June 15, 2004 6:04 PM Re: Herbal Remedies - sunblock You bring up a great point. Does one use a sunblock to prevent sunburn, or to minimize skin cancer? If the latter, then other methods would seem to suffice. If the former, then why use chemicals on our bodies when simply using clothing and hats, etc, would work better without the harmful effects? Convenience? I wonder.................. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2004 Report Share Posted June 16, 2004 I prefer to use sunblock versus long sleeves or pants during the summer months so that i dont overheat. I have a tendancy to get rashy if I sweat and my skin stays wet so, i wear looser cooler clothing in the summer to avoid the the whole issue. My skin is olive so i dont burn very fast, but i still like to minimize the possibility. Anyway, i think the issue here is not to use chemical based sun-protection, but an herbal based one. Sylvia herbal remedies , John Ybarra <deuteronomy2929> wrote: > You bring up a great point. Does one use a sunblock to prevent sunburn, or to minimize skin cancer? If the latter, then other methods would seem to suffice. If the former, then why use chemicals on our bodies when simply using clothing and hats, etc, would work better without the harmful effects? Convenience? I wonder.................. > > John > > Candace Podratz <CandaceAndBrock@w...> wrote: > Some of us do! If I'm going to be outside for longer than 2 hours I need one or I'll get really sick and REALLY burned. > I've had a burn so bad I touched my ear and the skin came right off. > > Candace > > > > > Mail - You care about security. So do we. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2004 Report Share Posted June 16, 2004 Ah, convenience. That nasty bugger!! ;-) JohnCandace Podratz <CandaceAndBrock wrote: ~picturing myself in a sombrero fully covered in clothing on a 95 degree day~ Mmmmmmm Aint Happening! : ) Candace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2004 Report Share Posted June 16, 2004 And how do I keep my sun hat on while I'm body surfing at Huntington Beach this August?? LOL!! Kelli Candace Podratz [CandaceAndBrock] Tuesday, June 15, 2004 4:10 PMherbal remedies Subject: Re: Herbal Remedies - sunblock ~picturing myself in a sombrero fully covered in clothing on a 95 degree day~ Mmmmmmm Aint Happening! : ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2004 Report Share Posted June 17, 2004 Why a rubberband, of course! - Kelli Bever herbal remedies Wednesday, June 16, 2004 5:56 PM RE: Herbal Remedies - sunblock And how do I keep my sun hat on while I'm body surfing at Huntington Beach this August?? LOL!! Kelli Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2004 Report Share Posted June 17, 2004 Oh, silly me! Glad I don't have to pack my staple gun!! LOL!! :)Kelli Candace Podratz [CandaceAndBrock] Wednesday, June 16, 2004 4:00 PMherbal remedies Subject: Re: Herbal Remedies - sunblock Why a rubberband, of course! - Kelli Bever herbal remedies Wednesday, June 16, 2004 5:56 PM RE: Herbal Remedies - sunblock And how do I keep my sun hat on while I'm body surfing at Huntington Beach this August?? LOL!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2004 Report Share Posted June 17, 2004 Heck you're worried about a little sunblock??? I'd be more worried about what's in the water! Summer months the water quality is usually a bit better than winter and spring, but that's still not saying much! Hope you'll be wearing a body suit! Sylvia herbal remedies , " Kelli Bever " <kelli@c...> wrote: > Oh, silly me! Glad I don't have to pack my staple gun!! LOL!! > > > > Kelli > > > Candace Podratz [CandaceAndBrock@w...] > Wednesday, June 16, 2004 4:00 PM > herbal remedies > Re: Herbal Remedies - sunblock > > > Why a rubberband, of course! > > - > Kelli Bever <kelli@c...> > herbal remedies > Wednesday, June 16, 2004 5:56 PM > RE: Herbal Remedies - sunblock > > And how do I keep my sun hat on while I'm body surfing at Huntington Beach this August?? LOL!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2004 Report Share Posted June 17, 2004 Yeah, you're right. The water quality at the beach has been getting worse and worse. It's very sad. Our family would meet at Huntington Beach every year when I was growing up, and we've continued the tradition and now all our kids are growing up with the tradition. I remember spending hours in the water, though, but I have to warn my daughter not to go in sometimes. Sigh.... Kelli Sylvia [h10feet] Wednesday, June 16, 2004 4:27 PMherbal remedies Subject: Re: Herbal Remedies - sunblockHeck you're worried about a little sunblock??? I'd be more worried about what's in the water! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2004 Report Share Posted June 17, 2004 I got this off another list I'm on~ looks good! Jan 1 oz. sesame oil1 oz. coconut oil1 oz. olive oil10 drops Helichrysum5 drops Lavender3 drops ChamomileMix and apply.Sesame oil can block or reduce about 30% of the burning rays; coconut and olive oils about 20%; and aloe vera also inhibits 20%. Helichrysum oil has been researched for its ability to effectively screen out some of the sun's rays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2004 Report Share Posted June 17, 2004 THANKS! Lemme know if you try it before I do! Candace - Jan Gonzalez herbal remedies Wednesday, June 16, 2004 10:24 PM Re: Herbal Remedies - sunblock I got this off another list I'm on~ looks good! Jan 1 oz. sesame oil1 oz. coconut oil1 oz. olive oil10 drops Helichrysum5 drops Lavender3 drops ChamomileMix and apply.Sesame oil can block or reduce about 30% of the burning rays; coconut and olive oils about 20%; and aloe vera also inhibits 20%. Helichrysum oil has been researched for its ability to effectively screen out some of the sun's rays.Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2004 Report Share Posted June 17, 2004 Where is the cheapest/best quality location to purchase these? I am also looking for veg glycerine in 40oz container. Alison > I got this off another list I'm on~ looks good! > Jan > > 1 oz. sesame oil > 1 oz. coconut oil > 1 oz. olive oil > 10 drops Helichrysum > 5 drops Lavender > 3 drops Chamomile > > Mix and apply. > > Sesame oil can block or reduce about 30% of the burning rays; coconut and olive oils about 20%; and aloe vera also inhibits 20%. Helichrysum oil has been researched for its ability to effectively screen out some of the sun's rays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2004 Report Share Posted June 17, 2004 thanks so much for the recipe for sunblock. ill try it soon. Candace Podratz <CandaceAndBrock wrote: THANKS! Lemme know if you try it before I do! Candace - Jan Gonzalez herbal remedies Wednesday, June 16, 2004 10:24 PM Re: Herbal Remedies - sunblock I got this off another list I'm on~ looks good! Jan 1 oz. sesame oil1 oz. coconut oil1 oz. olive oil10 drops Helichrysum5 drops Lavender3 drops ChamomileMix and apply.Sesame oil can block or reduce about 30% of the burning rays; coconut and olive oils about 20%; and aloe vera also inhibits 20%. Helichrysum oil has been researched for its ability to effectively screen out some of the sun's rays.Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2004 Report Share Posted June 17, 2004 Having grown up my entire life in So Cal, and going to the beach all the time, i became more and more of an issue for me. When we were preparing to leave San Diego, people couldnt believe i would leave the beach or Cali. I laughed because half the year the water quality is so poor they have signs posted warning you not to go in; that plus the fact that you cant get close to the beach to save your life with all the bodies crowding the sand! Pretty sad for a Native Californian! Have a good time with you family anyway Sylvia herbal remedies , " Kelli Bever " <kelli@c...> wrote: > Yeah, you're right. The water quality at the beach has been getting worse and worse. It's very sad. Our family would meet at Huntington Beach every year when I was growing up, and we've continued the tradition and now all our kids are growing up with the tradition. I remember spending hours in the water, though, but I have to warn my daughter not to go in sometimes. Sigh.... > > Kelli > > > Sylvia [h10feet] > Wednesday, June 16, 2004 4:27 PM > herbal remedies > Re: Herbal Remedies - sunblock > > > Heck you're worried about a little sunblock??? I'd be more worried > about what's in the water! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2004 Report Share Posted June 17, 2004 Yes, I grew up in So Cal also. Live in the Bay Area now (hard to call it Northern Calif when it doesn't look like that on a map!). When our whole family meets at the beach, some of us get there EARLY and stake out our territory. We brave the water and crowds in order to experience some of our "childhood memories" again! LOL! We're going in August. I hadn't done the cleanse at all the last time we went. Now that my husband and I have each done it twice, I'm wondering how many family converts we'll be able to get!! hee hee! :)Kelli Sylvia [h10feet] Thursday, June 17, 2004 10:01 AMherbal remedies Subject: Re: Herbal Remedies - sunblockHaving grown up my entire life in So Cal, and going to the beach all the time, i became more and more of an issue for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2004 Report Share Posted June 20, 2004 herbal remedies , " Candace Podratz " <CandaceAndBrock@w...> wrote: > ~picturing myself in a sombrero fully covered in clothing on a 95 degree day~ > > Mmmmmmm Aint Happening! > : ) > > Candace Actually you have described me. Due to religious convictions I typically cover from head to toe, almost literally. You can see my face and forearms and I usually wear a hat outside to protect my fave from the sun. It really isn't that bad, and it has made protecting my skin from the sun much easier (except when I forget my hat!) Becky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2004 Report Share Posted June 20, 2004 I'm such a baby when it comes to heat I go outside with my hair down and have to run in the house to throw it up because I can't stand the heat on the back of my neck! I get dizzy easily. WOW covered from head to toe. Not sure I'd live. LOL Candace - " doodlebugboodles " <doodlebugboodles <herbal remedies > Saturday, June 19, 2004 11:17 PM Re: Herbal Remedies - sunblock > > Actually you have described me. Due to religious convictions I > typically cover from head to toe, almost literally. You can see my > face and forearms and I usually wear a hat outside to protect my fave > from the sun. It really isn't that bad, and it has made protecting > my skin from the sun much easier (except when I forget my hat!) > > Becky > > > > > Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: > 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. > 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. > 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and to > prescribe for your own health. > We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as > they behave themselves. > Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person > following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. > It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to > be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. > > Dr. Ian Shillington > Doctor of Naturopathy > Dr.IanShillington > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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