SSRIs

[Guest guest]

Glenn,

 

How odd! Now I am starting to think most of my "ickyness" and problems may be stemming from being on Paxil for a few years (thanks to my ex husband). I got tired of taking it and the side effects, and when I couldn't afford to see the psyc any more, I had to either keep going to the doctor to beg for a refill or deal with the severe withdrawals I had coming off cold turkey. I did a lot of research, and decided I HAD to get off of it, but had to wean myself off very slowly to keep from getting terribly ill.

 

But still, 3 years later, I have a lot of trouble with brain fog, short term and long term memory, bloated feeling (although I could lose some weight), stiff joints, back trouble (could be from several horse accidents over the years), hot flashes, fatigue, depressed immune system, frequent UTIs and yeast infections, and the list goes on. I had thought about maybe Candida, too.

 

I don't trust our doctors, and can't afford any Natural Health doctors, so haven't gone in to talk to them much about my symptoms. I did once, especially since my hands kept going numb or at least would have a lot of tingling sensations going on, and if not numb, they often feel stiff and sore. She tried to tell me that it was possibly because I don't breathe right at night when I sleep, since my CO2 levels were high, and tried to put me on another inhaled steroid. I ended up not being able to sleep at all! And the hands didn't get any better. At that point, I had had it with non-organic lifestyles, synthetic drugs and doctors. But I need to figure out what I can do to help my poor body get right again. I am only 33, but I feel like I am 70! Still going, but sure takes some effort. I do feel better when I don't eat as much meat, drink a lot more water and tea than I usually do, and eat more greens, but I would be intrigued to hear anyone else's input on the SSRI subject.

 

Kim S.

[Guest guest]

I have no information on ssri’s but

as far as your hands going numb, if you are a shallow breather than you

probably have tight scalene muscles. These muscle attach at your spine from transverse processes of C2 - C7 (as

a group)

(they are actually three different

muscles) they then go down and attatch to first and second rib. They are

breathing assistors if these become tight they can…..eh hold on…..:

 

Scalene Muscles

The scalene are lateral vertebral muscles which begin at the

first and second ribs and pass up into the sides of the neck. There are three

of these muscles. (1) The " scalenus anterior muscle, " which, when the

neck is fixed, elevates the first rib to aid in breathing or when the rib is

fixed, bends the neck forward and sideways and rotates it to the opposite side.

(2) The " scalenus medius " is similar to the scalenus anterior and

raises the first rib from above or bends to slightly rotates the neck from

below. (3) The " scalenus posterior " raises the second rib or bends

and slightly rotates the neck. This muscle may be absent or may extend to the

third rib. When the scalene muscles are fixed from above, they elevate the

first and second ribs to become respiratory muscles for breathing. Acting from

below, they bend the spinal column to the same side or, if muscles act on both

sides, the spinal column is slightly flexed.

After

all that mumbo jumbo, your subclavian arterie passes right in between these

muscles and if they are tight, which most of them are in shallow breathers and

smokers, they can compress this artery which causes….drum roll ….thoracic

outlet syndrome……big breath…..long story short, which causes

tingling and numbness in the hands.

 

Easy

muscle tests to see if you have this problem:

Two

nonspecific tests that can suggest the presence of thoracic outlet syndrome are

the Adson test and the Allen test. In the Adson test, take a deep breath and

tilt your head back and turns it to one side. Hold arm out to the side

and slightly behind you. Have a friend or family member test to see if the

strength of the your pulse is reduced in the wrist on the arm on the opposite

side of the head turn. In the Allen test, the arm in which the your are

experiencing symptoms is raised and rotated while the head is turned to the

opposite side. Have someone feel your pulse to see if the pulse strength

at the wrist is reduced. If the strength of the pulse is reduced in either of

these two tests it indicates compression of the subclavian artery.

 

 

 

 

 

Kimberly Smith

[k_frog100]

Wednesday, June 09, 2004

6:32 PM

herbal remedies

Herbal Remedies - SSRIs

 

 

 

Glenn,

 

 

 

 

 

How odd! Now I

am starting to think most of my " ickyness " and problems may be

stemming from being on Paxil for a few years (thanks to my ex husband). I

got tired of taking it and the side effects, and when I couldn't afford to see

the psyc any more, I had to either keep going to the doctor to beg for a refill

or deal with the severe withdrawals I had coming off cold turkey. I did a

lot of research, and decided I HAD to get off of it, but had to wean

myself off very slowly to keep from getting terribly ill.

 

 

 

 

 

But still, 3 years

later, I have a lot of trouble with brain fog, short term and long term memory,

bloated feeling (although I could lose some weight), stiff joints, back trouble

(could be from several horse accidents over the years), hot flashes, fatigue,

depressed immune system, frequent UTIs and yeast infections, and the list goes

on. I had thought about maybe Candida, too.

 

 

 

 

 

I don't trust our

doctors, and can't afford any Natural Health doctors, so haven't gone in to

talk to them much about my symptoms. I did once, especially

since my hands kept going numb or at least would have a lot of tingling

sensations going on, and if not numb, they often feel stiff and sore. She

tried to tell me that it was possibly because I don't breathe right at night

when I sleep, since my CO2 levels were high, and tried to put me on

another inhaled steroid. I ended up not being able to sleep at all!

And the hands didn't get any better. At that point, I had had it with non-organic

lifestyles, synthetic drugs and doctors. But I need to figure out

what I can do to help my poor body get right again. I am only 33,

but I feel like I am 70! Still going, but sure takes some

effort. I do feel better when I don't eat as much meat, drink a lot

more water and tea than I usually do, and eat more greens, but I would be

intrigued to hear anyone else's input on the SSRI subject.

 

 

 

 

 

Kim S.

 

 

 

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