Guest guest Posted June 3, 2004 Report Share Posted June 3, 2004 Candace...Very sad . Miracles do happen tho....Mary O - Candace Podratz herbal remedies Thursday, June 03, 2004 11:31 AM Re: Herbal Remedies - Candace Hubby He was my best friend while we were dating and first married. As soon as Brock was born it's like he freaked out. That's when he started drinking almost daily and being a complete arse; coming and going as he pleases and being very secretive, lieing lieing lieing. Every comment he'd made about how he was going to raise his kid went right out the window and now he basically ignores him, swears in front of and at him, etc.... He's affectionate after he gets home from the bar and has been ogling other women all night! Then he stinks like stale booze and cigs and I want nothing to do with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2004 Report Share Posted June 3, 2004 Alcoholism is extremely complicated. I'm very sorry you and Brock are going through this right now. My husband is also an alcoholic. He has been sober now for three years with only two one night relapses. Before that he was constantly drunk and in jail for about 15 months. He is a very violent and abusive drunk since he is in the very late stages. ( He is 42 and had been drinking for 29 years.) He used to, before we were married do all sorts of drugs too. Basicly he was a mess. I know how hard it is because it seems like the one you fell in love with isn't there anymore. But he is in there somewhere. My husband talks now about being totally lost in alcoholism and not knowing how to get out. Everything he did when he was drunk just pushed him further in and when I would hate him and lock him out or yell at him it just kept him there. You said that you had been to alanon. I urge you to go back. Sometimes the way we react to them can help or it can hinder. I will pray for you and your son. Lisa C. herbal remedies , " Candace Podratz " <CandaceAndBrock@w...> wrote: > He was my best friend while we were dating and first married. As soon as Brock was born it's like he freaked out. That's when he started drinking almost daily and being a complete arse; coming and going as he pleases and being very secretive, lieing lieing lieing. Every comment he'd made about how he was going to raise his kid went right out the window and now he basically ignores him, swears in front of and at him, etc.... > He's affectionate after he gets home from the bar and has been ogling other women all night! Then he stinks like stale booze and cigs and I want nothing to do with him. > > As bitchy as it may sound, I stick around because he works so I can stay home with Brock while he's little for 1. Second reason is if we split, he'd get partial custody of Mr. Brock and has weird ideas, like that it's okay to leave him in his crib and go out all night and drive drunk with him in the vehicle. If he went to the bar and left Brock in his crib, maybe no damage would be done, but he has passed out drunk with the gas stove on 6 times since we moved in here in October. If I'm not around, he'd probably burn the house down with him and Brock in it. When he " watches " him so I can get something done every now and then, all he does is fall asleep on the couch and Brock has the run of the house. Once he figures out how to open doors, his life would be in SERIOUS danger. > So I stick around to protect Brock. And to stay home with Brock. Once every few weeks we'll have a good couple days, that gets my hopes up, too. > : ) > When things get bad for a few consecutive weeks I start considering moving out of state in with a friend, which would prevent the visitation until Brock was older and could fend for himself. > Complicated why I stay but hope it makes sense. > > Candace > - > SpareRibOfAz@a... > herbal remedies > Thursday, June 03, 2004 1:16 PM > Re: Herbal Remedies - Candace Hubby > > > In a message dated 6/3/2004 11:12:18 AM US Mountain Standard Time, CandaceAndBrock@w... writes: > Candace > Yes, lots and lots of prayer ALWAYS helps! > Candace... > > I feel for you. I think we have all been in a rough or bad relationship, I know what it is like to feel stuck and not know what to do. Is he at all like a husband for you and your family? Isn't he affectionate? There has to be something he does for you to keep him around. It is hard to give you advice or direction other than prayer... we only here your side and haven't seen the two of you interacting together. > > Hang in there and know you have friends. > > Love & God Bless, > Jamie in Az > > > Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: > 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. > 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. > 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and to > prescribe for your own health. > We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as > they behave themselves. > Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person > following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. > It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to > be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. > > Dr. Ian Shillington > Doctor of Naturopathy > Dr.IanShillington@G... > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2004 Report Share Posted June 3, 2004 Sadly not an un-common situation. At least now it gives some of us an idea on where to direct the prayers. Someone else mentioned going back to alanon, i agree. you need to arm yourself with all resources to deal with the situation if you are not willing or prepared to leave and if you want to fight to salvage the marriage. I'm really sorry you have to deal with this, i my own eyes it is not fair that someone so loving should have to endure this type of situation. It took me 5 years to drag myself out of an abusive relationship that started off as a dream come true. I can look back now and sigh with great relief and know that i did the right thing for me, and by far i am much better off. You know that we are all here for you Candace, in any possible way we can help. BIG!!!!!!!! HUGS!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sylvia herbal remedies , " Candace Podratz " <CandaceAndBrock@w...> wrote: > He was my best friend while we were dating and first married. As soon as Brock was born it's like he freaked out. That's when he started drinking almost daily and being a complete arse; coming and going as he pleases and being very secretive, lieing lieing lieing. Every comment he'd made about how he was going to raise his kid went right out the window and now he basically ignores him, swears in front of and at him, etc.... > He's affectionate after he gets home from the bar and has been ogling other women all night! Then he stinks like stale booze and cigs and I want nothing to do with him. > > As bitchy as it may sound, I stick around because he works so I can stay home with Brock while he's little for 1. Second reason is if we split, he'd get partial custody of Mr. Brock and has weird ideas, like that it's okay to leave him in his crib and go out all night and drive drunk with him in the vehicle. If he went to the bar and left Brock in his crib, maybe no damage would be done, but he has passed out drunk with the gas stove on 6 times since we moved in here in October. If I'm not around, he'd probably burn the house down with him and Brock in it. When he " watches " him so I can get something done every now and then, all he does is fall asleep on the couch and Brock has the run of the house. Once he figures out how to open doors, his life would be in SERIOUS danger. > So I stick around to protect Brock. And to stay home with Brock. Once every few weeks we'll have a good couple days, that gets my hopes up, too. > : ) > When things get bad for a few consecutive weeks I start considering moving out of state in with a friend, which would prevent the visitation until Brock was older and could fend for himself. > Complicated why I stay but hope it makes sense. > > Candace > - > SpareRibOfAz@a... > herbal remedies > Thursday, June 03, 2004 1:16 PM > Re: Herbal Remedies - Candace Hubby > > > In a message dated 6/3/2004 11:12:18 AM US Mountain Standard Time, CandaceAndBrock@w... writes: > Candace > Yes, lots and lots of prayer ALWAYS helps! > Candace... > > I feel for you. I think we have all been in a rough or bad relationship, I know what it is like to feel stuck and not know what to do. Is he at all like a husband for you and your family? Isn't he affectionate? There has to be something he does for you to keep him around. It is hard to give you advice or direction other than prayer... we only here your side and haven't seen the two of you interacting together. > > Hang in there and know you have friends. > > Love & God Bless, > Jamie in Az > > > Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: > 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. > 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. > 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and to > prescribe for your own health. > We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as > they behave themselves. > Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person > following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. > It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to > be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. > > Dr. Ian Shillington > Doctor of Naturopathy > Dr.IanShillington@G... > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2004 Report Share Posted June 3, 2004 Thanks, you're right! The way I reacted (or more accurately DIDN'T react) really helped. Back when he first went crazy we screamed at each other daily, things started to get violent. When I started going to Al-Anon I started ignoring his lude comments and insults and would walk out of the room or go to bed early (now that sucked). He tried SO hard to get me back into his routine of screaming back at him, and it just didn't work. He would literally insult me and scream in my face for HOURS nonstop. Now I'm a readhead with a naturally low tolerance for stupidity and ignoring him was the hardest thing I've ever done in my life. He started acting better around me, and I stopped going to al-anon. Lately I'm just so tired of being the only person in this marriage and the only person doing anything around here and I'm tired of going to bed early to get away from his drunken misery and more than anything I'M TIRED OF SLEEPING ON THE COUCH while his drunk arse snores away on the bed after he tried for 2 hours to pick a fight with me. I'm just tired. Back to al-anon I go. Sorry to hear about your husband, at least he's not drinking so much, although if he's anything like my DH if he hasn't had a drink in a couple days he gets so cranky I'm ready to drive him to the bar and buy him a drink. Yes, alcoholism is a very strange occurence that makes people do backwards things, if anyone ever figures it out, let me know! Candace - " Lisa Carter " <randasmommy2003 <herbal remedies > Thursday, June 03, 2004 2:20 PM Re: Herbal Remedies - Candace Hubby > Alcoholism is extremely complicated. I'm very sorry you and Brock > are going through this right now. > > My husband is also an alcoholic. He has been sober now for three > years with only two one night relapses. Before that he was > constantly drunk and in jail for about 15 months. > > He is a very violent and abusive drunk since he is in the very late > stages. ( He is 42 and had been drinking for 29 years.) He used to, > before we were married do all sorts of drugs too. Basicly he was a > mess. > > I know how hard it is because it seems like the one you fell in love > with isn't there anymore. But he is in there somewhere. > > My husband talks now about being totally lost in alcoholism and not > knowing how to get out. Everything he did when he was drunk just > pushed him further in and when I would hate him and lock him out or > yell at him it just kept him there. You said that you had been to > alanon. I urge you to go back. Sometimes the way we react to them > can help or it can hinder. > > I will pray for you and your son. > > Lisa C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2004 Report Share Posted June 3, 2004 Candace, Been there...done that...but you need to look into the laws regarding visitation in your state. You may be able to have visitation withheld or supervised visitation if you feel that the child is at risk in the care of his father. If you are very open and honest about the situation as it is...the judge would grant you with full custody and only allow supervised visitation with your husband. This is what I had to do with mine, unfortunately. I then allowed him visitation as long as he was living with his parents where I knew he would get the care he needed. It is a very hard situation you are in. But then again, maybe picking up and leaving might be the wake up call that your husband needs. Caroline Who has lived your life...and it was no fun...with the exception of that precious child!! - Candace Podratz herbal remedies Thursday, June 03, 2004 2:31 PM Re: Herbal Remedies - Candace Hubby He was my best friend while we were dating and first married. As soon as Brock was born it's like he freaked out. That's when he started drinking almost daily and being a complete arse; coming and going as he pleases and being very secretive, lieing lieing lieing. Every comment he'd made about how he was going to raise his kid went right out the window and now he basically ignores him, swears in front of and at him, etc.... He's affectionate after he gets home from the bar and has been ogling other women all night! Then he stinks like stale booze and cigs and I want nothing to do with him. As bitchy as it may sound, I stick around because he works so I can stay home with Brock while he's little for 1. Second reason is if we split, he'd get partial custody of Mr. Brock and has weird ideas, like that it's okay to leave him in his crib and go out all night and drive drunk with him in the vehicle. If he went to the bar and left Brock in his crib, maybe no damage would be done, but he has passed out drunk with the gas stove on 6 times since we moved in here in October. If I'm not around, he'd probably burn the house down with him and Brock in it. When he "watches" him so I can get something done every now and then, all he does is fall asleep on the couch and Brock has the run of the house. Once he figures out how to open doors, his life would be in SERIOUS danger. So I stick around to protect Brock. And to stay home with Brock. Once every few weeks we'll have a good couple days, that gets my hopes up, too. : ) When things get bad for a few consecutive weeks I start considering moving out of state in with a friend, which would prevent the visitation until Brock was older and could fend for himself. Complicated why I stay but hope it makes sense. Candace - SpareRibOfAz herbal remedies Thursday, June 03, 2004 1:16 PM Re: Herbal Remedies - Candace Hubby In a message dated 6/3/2004 11:12:18 AM US Mountain Standard Time, CandaceAndBrock writes: CandaceYes, lots and lots of prayer ALWAYS helps! Candace... I feel for you. I think we have all been in a rough or bad relationship, I know what it is like to feel stuck and not know what to do. Is he at all like a husband for you and your family? Isn't he affectionate? There has to be something he does for you to keep him around. It is hard to give you advice or direction other than prayer... we only here your side and haven't seen the two of you interacting together. Hang in there and know you have friends. Love & God Bless, Jamie in AzFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2004 Report Share Posted June 3, 2004 I asked a woman working at a woman's shelter about custody and she said being an alcoholic is no reason to not get at least partial custody and unless he's pounding on him on a regular basis he'd get every other weekend. I asked about neglect and she asked if I had documented proof i.e. a police report. NO WAY! I'd never let it happen! That's why I'm here! The laws in MN seem to be very loose in regards to child abandonment and neglect unless something has already happened. In which case, it's too late, huh? When things started getting violent, I left for a couple weeks and he made no effort to take little Mr. Brock so he might not even want him, but I just can't take the chance. He'd probably fight for custody just to spite me. I do have pics of DH passed out in a smokey living room after he left the stove on (I had a stuffed nose that night and didn't wake up right away to turn it off) I have a pic of him passed out in his car with it still running, the lights on. He couldn't even make it in the house. I have a pic AND VIDEO of Brock jumping up and down on his back with no response while he's passed out on the floor. I have a pic of him passed out sprawled in the living room buck naked. Good role model for Brock. Yuck. Which reminds me, I need to go take a pic of the bashed in garage door. Will do that now. I'm starting a little collection in case some day it'll do any good. : ) Candace - Caroline herbal remedies Thursday, June 03, 2004 3:16 PM Re: Herbal Remedies - Candace Hubby Candace, Been there...done that...but you need to look into the laws regarding visitation in your state. You may be able to have visitation withheld or supervised visitation if you feel that the child is at risk in the care of his father. If you are very open and honest about the situation as it is...the judge would grant you with full custody and only allow supervised visitation with your husband. This is what I had to do with mine, unfortunately. I then allowed him visitation as long as he was living with his parents where I knew he would get the care he needed. It is a very hard situation you are in. But then again, maybe picking up and leaving might be the wake up call that your husband needs. Caroline Who has lived your life...and it was no fun...with the exception of that precious child!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2004 Report Share Posted June 3, 2004 Also, try keeping a journal of the other stuff. dates, facts, that kind of stuff. Maybe ask your friend in the other state to check on the laws in that state for you too. Also, i hope you are being very cautious and keeping these pictures and videos somewhere safe (not in your home) where he might get to them. If you are going to try to work things out, worst thing that can happen would be for him to find " your insurance policy " and open up a new can of worms. If things continue to go poorly, it will also not fare very well for him to find this stuff. Sylvia herbal remedies , " Candace Podratz " <CandaceAndBrock@w...> wrote: > I asked a woman working at a woman's shelter about custody and she said being an alcoholic is no reason to not get at least partial custody and unless he's pounding on him on a regular basis he'd get every other weekend. > I asked about neglect and she asked if I had documented proof i.e. a police report. NO WAY! I'd never let it happen! That's why I'm here! > > The laws in MN seem to be very loose in regards to child abandonment and neglect unless something has already happened. In which case, it's too late, huh? > When things started getting violent, I left for a couple weeks and he made no effort to take little Mr. Brock so he might not even want him, but I just can't take the chance. He'd probably fight for custody just to spite me. > > I do have pics of DH passed out in a smokey living room after he left the stove on (I had a stuffed nose that night and didn't wake up right away to turn it off) > I have a pic of him passed out in his car with it still running, the lights on. He couldn't even make it in the house. > I have a pic AND VIDEO of Brock jumping up and down on his back with no response while he's passed out on the floor. > I have a pic of him passed out sprawled in the living room buck naked. Good role model for Brock. Yuck. > Which reminds me, I need to go take a pic of the bashed in garage door. Will do that now. > > I'm starting a little collection in case some day it'll do any good. : ) > > Candace > - > Caroline > herbal remedies > Thursday, June 03, 2004 3:16 PM > Re: Herbal Remedies - Candace Hubby > > > Candace, > > Been there...done that...but you need to look into the laws regarding visitation in your state. You may be able to have visitation withheld or supervised visitation if you feel that the child is at risk in the care of his father. If you are very open and honest about the situation as it is...the judge would grant you with full custody and only allow supervised visitation with your husband. This is what I had to do with mine, unfortunately. I then allowed him visitation as long as he was living with his parents where I knew he would get the care he needed. > > It is a very hard situation you are in. But then again, maybe picking up and leaving might be the wake up call that your husband needs. > > Caroline > Who has lived your life...and it was no fun...with the exception of that precious child!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2004 Report Share Posted June 3, 2004 Good...that sounds like proof to me! Another thing that I was told to do...is to keep a log of all of the things he does. Like a journal each day of his mishaps. This is proof as well if you should need it. If I were you...I would not simply take the word of the woman at the shelter...but I'm not...but I would contact an attorney and see what they say...or try and see if you can find case law information online regarding the laws of custody in your state. I would definitely arm myself. Better to not have to worry about the welfare of your child...if he should ever get violent...I could tell you horror stories of what my ex did...but it is just not worth it since he is no longer around to do these things anymore! Caroline - Candace Podratz herbal remedies Thursday, June 03, 2004 4:41 PM Re: Herbal Remedies - Candace Hubby I asked a woman working at a woman's shelter about custody and she said being an alcoholic is no reason to not get at least partial custody and unless he's pounding on him on a regular basis he'd get every other weekend. I asked about neglect and she asked if I had documented proof i.e. a police report. NO WAY! I'd never let it happen! That's why I'm here! The laws in MN seem to be very loose in regards to child abandonment and neglect unless something has already happened. In which case, it's too late, huh? When things started getting violent, I left for a couple weeks and he made no effort to take little Mr. Brock so he might not even want him, but I just can't take the chance. He'd probably fight for custody just to spite me. I do have pics of DH passed out in a smokey living room after he left the stove on (I had a stuffed nose that night and didn't wake up right away to turn it off) I have a pic of him passed out in his car with it still running, the lights on. He couldn't even make it in the house. I have a pic AND VIDEO of Brock jumping up and down on his back with no response while he's passed out on the floor. I have a pic of him passed out sprawled in the living room buck naked. Good role model for Brock. Yuck. Which reminds me, I need to go take a pic of the bashed in garage door. Will do that now. I'm starting a little collection in case some day it'll do any good. : ) Candace - Caroline herbal remedies Thursday, June 03, 2004 3:16 PM Re: Herbal Remedies - Candace Hubby Candace, Been there...done that...but you need to look into the laws regarding visitation in your state. You may be able to have visitation withheld or supervised visitation if you feel that the child is at risk in the care of his father. If you are very open and honest about the situation as it is...the judge would grant you with full custody and only allow supervised visitation with your husband. This is what I had to do with mine, unfortunately. I then allowed him visitation as long as he was living with his parents where I knew he would get the care he needed. It is a very hard situation you are in. But then again, maybe picking up and leaving might be the wake up call that your husband needs. Caroline Who has lived your life...and it was no fun...with the exception of that precious child!!Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2004 Report Share Posted June 4, 2004 Oh, geeze. It sounds like you guys are talking about me, and my past. People can change. Sometimes they won't. I add my prayers for Candace, her husband, and Brock!! JohnLisa Carter <randasmommy2003 wrote: Alcoholism is extremely complicated. I'm very sorry you and Brock are going through this right now. My husband is also an alcoholic. He has been sober now for three years with only two one night relapses. Before that he was constantly drunk and in jail for about 15 months. He is a very violent and abusive drunk since he is in the very late stages. ( He is 42 and had been drinking for 29 years.) He used to, before we were married do all sorts of drugs too. Basicly he was a mess. I know how hard it is because it seems like the one you fell in love with isn't there anymore. But he is in there somewhere. My husband talks now about being totally lost in alcoholism and not knowing how to get out. Everything he did when he was drunk just pushed him further in and when I would hate him and lock him out or yell at him it just kept him there. You said that you had been to alanon. I urge you to go back. Sometimes the way we react to them can help or it can hinder.I will pray for you and your son.Lisa C. Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Messenger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2004 Report Share Posted June 4, 2004 hi Candace, if he doesn't want to change, that is his problem. you have a choice to live happily and without this BS! he will drag you down with him if he is not understanding (sober) what he is destroying and who he is hurting. sorry to be hard like this, but i see this no other way. been ther done that sort of thing, but i learned.......... it can be done! love ya, rik herbal remedies , " Candace Podratz " <CandaceAndBrock@w...> wrote: > Thanks, you're right! > The way I reacted (or more accurately DIDN'T react) really helped. Back when > he first went crazy we screamed at each other daily, things started to get > violent. > When I started going to Al-Anon I started ignoring his lude comments and > insults and would walk out of the room or go to bed early (now that sucked). > He tried SO hard to get me back into his routine of screaming back at him, > and it just didn't work. He would literally insult me and scream in my face > for HOURS nonstop. Now I'm a readhead with a naturally low tolerance for > stupidity and ignoring him was the hardest thing I've ever done in my life. > He started acting better around me, and I stopped going to al-anon. > > Lately I'm just so tired of being the only person in this marriage and the > only person doing anything around here and I'm tired of going to bed early > to get away from his drunken misery and more than anything I'M TIRED OF > SLEEPING ON THE COUCH while his drunk arse snores away on the bed after he > tried for 2 hours to pick a fight with me. > > I'm just tired. Back to al-anon I go. Sorry to hear about your husband, at > least he's not drinking so much, although if he's anything like my DH if he > hasn't had a drink in a couple days he gets so cranky I'm ready to drive him > to the bar and buy him a drink. > Yes, alcoholism is a very strange occurence that makes people do backwards > things, if anyone ever figures it out, let me know! > > Candace > > - > " Lisa Carter " <randasmommy2003> > <herbal remedies > > Thursday, June 03, 2004 2:20 PM > Re: Herbal Remedies - Candace Hubby > > > > Alcoholism is extremely complicated. I'm very sorry you and Brock > > are going through this right now. > > > > My husband is also an alcoholic. He has been sober now for three > > years with only two one night relapses. Before that he was > > constantly drunk and in jail for about 15 months. > > > > He is a very violent and abusive drunk since he is in the very late > > stages. ( He is 42 and had been drinking for 29 years.) He used to, > > before we were married do all sorts of drugs too. Basicly he was a > > mess. > > > > I know how hard it is because it seems like the one you fell in love > > with isn't there anymore. But he is in there somewhere. > > > > My husband talks now about being totally lost in alcoholism and not > > knowing how to get out. Everything he did when he was drunk just > > pushed him further in and when I would hate him and lock him out or > > yell at him it just kept him there. You said that you had been to > > alanon. I urge you to go back. Sometimes the way we react to them > > can help or it can hinder. > > > > I will pray for you and your son. > > > > Lisa C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2004 Report Share Posted June 4, 2004 You're right people can change. My husband did. We work on us everyday. It took Jesus. I hope I'm allowed to say that on here, but that is the most miraculous healing I've ever seen. Lisa C. herbal remedies , John Ybarra <deuteronomy2929> wrote: > Oh, geeze. It sounds like you guys are talking about me, and my past. > > People can change. Sometimes they won't. > > I add my prayers for Candace, her husband, and Brock!! > > John > > Lisa Carter <randasmommy2003> wrote: > Alcoholism is extremely complicated. I'm very sorry you and Brock > are going through this right now. > > My husband is also an alcoholic. He has been sober now for three > years with only two one night relapses. Before that he was > constantly drunk and in jail for about 15 months. > > He is a very violent and abusive drunk since he is in the very late > stages. ( He is 42 and had been drinking for 29 years.) He used to, > before we were married do all sorts of drugs too. Basicly he was a > mess. > > I know how hard it is because it seems like the one you fell in love > with isn't there anymore. But he is in there somewhere. > > My husband talks now about being totally lost in alcoholism and not > knowing how to get out. Everything he did when he was drunk just > pushed him further in and when I would hate him and lock him out or > yell at him it just kept him there. You said that you had been to > alanon. I urge you to go back. Sometimes the way we react to them > can help or it can hinder. > > I will pray for you and your son. > > Lisa C. > > > > Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Messenger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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