Guest guest Posted February 19, 2002 Report Share Posted February 19, 2002 Hey r, Mark Reese, You know there are those people who would say that AIDS is a big scam. That the very expensive western meds actually kill the patient and force the patient to exhibit 'symptoms' of AIDS that are actually the side effects of the anti-viral medications. Please take a look at VirusMyth.com. Its just a very interesting THEORY, in my opinion, relating to your case of a normal tongue with an AIDS-diagnosed patient. I'm not saying the theory is right or wrong, just a topic of interest for us in the healthcare. --- Mark Reese <tcm2 wrote: > I'd be curious to hear whether others of you have experienced > significant discordance between tongue and other S/Sx in patients. I > have had several patients over the years who have dramatically > different tongues than one would expect. > > In a particular case, a man I've been treating for 4 years now, has a > perfect tongue. No, really. Textbook: moisture, body, coat, > everything. His western dx? AIDS. He came to me very sick and is > now moderately healthy. Over the last 4 years I've treated him for > several horrible cases of shingles (the worst I've ever seen --- and > I've seen a lot), pneumonia, horrible d/heat type diarrheas, and > plenty of drug side effects. His tongue never changes. His pulse > often will shift slightly but nothing too dramatic. I use signs and > symptoms as my sole gauge of pattern discrimination. > > Of course he is one of the rare exceptions, usually I trust the > tongue above all other non-verbal info and find that it often reveals > subtleties about the patient that greatly aid treatment. Still, it > is interesting to me that there do seem to be folks out there whose > tongues seem to operate independently from there zang fu. > > Any comments? > > Mark Reese > Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2002 Report Share Posted February 19, 2002 I'd be curious to hear whether others of you have experienced significant discordance between tongue and other S/Sx in patients. I have had several patients over the years who have dramatically different tongues than one would expect. >>>All too often and often calls for judgment calls end empirical treatment trials Alon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2002 Report Share Posted February 19, 2002 Wade, The whole idea that HIV is not the primary cause of AIDS has been debunked for years and there is an overwhelming amount of evidence for this. There are a handful of very verbal and impassioned zealots who hold to this chestnut, many of whom I've had the unfortunate experience of watching die. .. I was also working in the AIDS field when those " scam " drugs were invented. I watched literally hundreds of people come back from the brink of death. This is not to say that those drugs are not toxic in their own right. But they definitely work against the virus. Mark - " Wade De Loe " <mixuga Tuesday, February 19, 2002 4:46 PM Re: Tongue > Hey r, Mark Reese, You know there are those people who would > say that AIDS is a big scam. That the very expensive western meds > actually kill the patient and force the patient to exhibit 'symptoms' > of AIDS that are actually the side effects of the anti-viral > medications. Please take a look at VirusMyth.com. Its just a very > interesting THEORY, in my opinion, relating to your case of a normal > tongue with an AIDS-diagnosed patient. I'm not saying the theory is > right or wrong, just a topic of interest for us in the healthcare. > > > --- Mark Reese <tcm2 wrote: > > I'd be curious to hear whether others of you have experienced > > significant discordance between tongue and other S/Sx in patients. I > > have had several patients over the years who have dramatically > > different tongues than one would expect. > > > > In a particular case, a man I've been treating for 4 years now, has a > > perfect tongue. No, really. Textbook: moisture, body, coat, > > everything. His western dx? AIDS. He came to me very sick and is > > now moderately healthy. Over the last 4 years I've treated him for > > several horrible cases of shingles (the worst I've ever seen --- and > > I've seen a lot), pneumonia, horrible d/heat type diarrheas, and > > plenty of drug side effects. His tongue never changes. His pulse > > often will shift slightly but nothing too dramatic. I use signs and > > symptoms as my sole gauge of pattern discrimination. > > > > Of course he is one of the rare exceptions, usually I trust the > > tongue above all other non-verbal info and find that it often reveals > > subtleties about the patient that greatly aid treatment. Still, it > > is interesting to me that there do seem to be folks out there whose > > tongues seem to operate independently from there zang fu. > > > > Any comments? > > > > Mark Reese > > > > > > > Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games > http://sports. > > > Chinese Herbal Medicine, a voluntary organization of licensed healthcare practitioners, matriculated students and postgraduate academics specializing in Chinese Herbal Medicine, provides a variety of professional services, including board approved online continuing education. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2009 Report Share Posted March 20, 2009 Does anyone know, what red spots on tongue could mean? Thank you for responding. Maria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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