Guest guest Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 hello all, i'm asking some advice on cervical cancer vaccination, i'm asking for a friend's daughter who is about to make a decision if she wants to do this vaccination. apperently this is a new thing in holland, girls are lined up for shot against cervical cancer, i'm not feeling good about this and need some feedback from you guys, hope to hear from you, either on this group or perhaps private, you can email me at bliksemskater thanks, rik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 Don't do it. Kay - Rik herbal remedies Thursday, February 26, 2009 1:17 PM {Herbal Remedies} cervical cancer vaccination hello all, i'm asking some advice on cervical cancer vaccination, i'masking for a friend's daughter who is about to make a decision if shewants to do this vaccination. apperently this is a new thing inholland, girls are lined up for shot against cervical cancer, i'm notfeeling good about this and need some feedback from you guys, hope tohear from you, either on this group or perhaps private, you can emailme at bliksemskater thanks, rik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 Rik, Gardasil is NOT a vaccine against cervical cancer! It is a vaccine against Human Papilloma Virus, a sexually transmitted disease that can predispose to cervical cancer. STDs by their very nature can be prevented by other methods! Some girls have become very ill from the vaccine. I wouldn't touch this one with a ten foot pole. More on it here: http://tinyurl.com/cqhs27 The link goes to an article on Dr. Joseph Mercola's website. Ien in the Kootenayshttp://freegreenliving.com (blog) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 Just one word!!! DON'T!!!!!!!!! Your friend's daughter will thank you for it. Far too many risks and side effects. cheers Lyndall - " Rik " <bliksemskater Friday, February 27, 2009 8:16 AM cervical cancer vaccination hello all, i'm asking some advice on cervical cancer vaccination, i'm asking for a friend's daughter who is about to make a decision if she wants to do this vaccination. apperently this is a new thing in holland, girls are lined up for shot against cervical cancer, i'm not feeling good about this and need some feedback from you guys, hope to hear from you, either on this group or perhaps private, you can email me at bliksemskater thanks, rik --- ********************************************* Peacefulmind.com Sponsors Alternative Answers- HEALING NATURALLY- Learn preventative and curative measure to take for many ailments at: http://www.peacefulmind.com/ailments.htm __________ -To INVITE A FRIEND to our healing community, copy and paste this address in an email to them: http://health./subs_invite _________ To ADD A LINK, RESOURCE, OR WEBSITE to Alternative Answers please Go to: http://health./links ___________ Post message: Subscribe: - Un: - List owner: -owner _______ Shortcut URL to this page: http://health. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 Are you referring to Gardasil? There's quite a few instances of severe vaccine reactions, just google it and you'll find them. It is supposed to protect against some strains of HPV that can cause cervical cancer, but it doesnt protect against them all, and your body can get rid of HPV on its own. Mine did. Tiffany --- On Thu, 2/26/09, Rik <bliksemskater wrote: Rik <bliksemskater cervical cancer vaccination Thursday, February 26, 2009, 4:16 PM hello all, i'm asking some advice on cervical cancer vaccination, i'm asking for a friend's daughter who is about to make a decision if she wants to do this vaccination. apperently this is a new thing in holland, girls are lined up for shot against cervical cancer, i'm not feeling good about this and need some feedback from you guys, hope to hear from you, either on this group or perhaps private, you can email me at bliksemskater@ thanks, rik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 Hi Rik, This vaccine has recently become available in the UK, and it has caused a lot of controversy here too! It is being offered to 13 year old girls in most schools (I believe they offer it at this age because the vaccine needs to be given before the girl has had sex, and at this age they should achieve this!!). From what I know about it, it can prevent cervical cancer by stopping the girls getting the virus which causes it. This is of course a good thing as cervical cancer is an awful, devastating disease. However, some people are worried about any possible side-effects in the future as it is a new vaccine, and also it is very expensive so here where we have the NHS (free healthcare) a lot of people are asking whether it is worth the cost. I hope this helps a bit! Vicky bliksemskater Thu, 26 Feb 2009 21:16:45 +0000 cervical cancer vaccination hello all, i'm asking some advice on cervical cancer vaccination, i'm asking for a friend's daughter who is about to make a decision if she wants to do this vaccination. apperently this is a new thing in holland, girls are lined up for shot against cervical cancer, i'm not feeling good about this and need some feedback from you guys, hope to hear from you, either on this group or perhaps private, you can email me at bliksemskater thanks, rik _______________ Love Hotmail? Check out the new services from Windows Live! http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/132630768/direct/01/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 The vaccine is for certain strains of warts. Some of which CAN be transmitted through sexual contact. The idea is that if someone gets genital warts, they are at increased risk for cancer. It is also NOT for all the strains of genital warts. Vaccines contain recombinant (mutant) virii and use toxic substances as preservatives, such as thimersol (mercury) and formaldehyde. It's a bit of a stretch to say it " stops the girls getting the virus that causes cancer. " It allegedly is somewhat effective at preventing SOME strains of warts. - " Vicky Moore " <crystalwitch Friday, February 27, 2009 6:34 AM RE: cervical cancer vaccination Hi Rik, This vaccine has recently become available in the UK, and it has caused a lot of controversy here too! It is being offered to 13 year old girls in most schools (I believe they offer it at this age because the vaccine needs to be given before the girl has had sex, and at this age they should achieve this!!). From what I know about it, it can prevent cervical cancer by stopping the girls getting the virus which causes it. This is of course a good thing as cervical cancer is an awful, devastating disease. However, some people are worried about any possible side-effects in the future as it is a new vaccine, and also it is very expensive so here where we have the NHS (free healthcare) a lot of people are asking whether it is worth the cost. I hope this helps a bit! Vicky bliksemskater Thu, 26 Feb 2009 21:16:45 +0000 cervical cancer vaccination hello all, i'm asking some advice on cervical cancer vaccination, i'm asking for a friend's daughter who is about to make a decision if she wants to do this vaccination. apperently this is a new thing in holland, girls are lined up for shot against cervical cancer, i'm not feeling good about this and need some feedback from you guys, hope to hear from you, either on this group or perhaps private, you can email me at bliksemskater thanks, rik _______________ Love Hotmail? Check out the new services from Windows Live! http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/132630768/direct/01/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 Hello All, Please read and pass on: I was at a wellness fair back in November where i met a Doctor named Dr. Calapai...I cannot recall his website; you can google him..he is amazing and VERY informative.. he advised the audience to absolutely not even think about giving this vaccine to anyone..a lot of information not given to the public to consider....and not good.. --- On Thu, 2/26/09, Rik <bliksemskater wrote: Rik <bliksemskater cervical cancer vaccination Thursday, February 26, 2009, 4:16 PM hello all, i'm asking some advice on cervical cancer vaccination, i'm asking for a friend's daughter who is about to make a decision if she wants to do this vaccination. apperently this is a new thing in holland, girls are lined up for shot against cervical cancer, i'm not feeling good about this and need some feedback from you guys, hope to hear from you, either on this group or perhaps private, you can email me at bliksemskater@ thanks, rik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 Hi, someone just directed me to this website for a different vaccine that I had a question on. Here's the link to the HPV vaccine info. My daughter will never get this vaccine. This site has a lot of information on different vaccines. Hope this helps. Genevive http://www.vacinfo.org/vaccinehpvpresentation.htm , " Rik " <bliksemskater wrote: > > hello all, i'm asking some advice on cervical cancer vaccination, i'm > asking for a friend's daughter who is about to make a decision if she > wants to do this vaccination. apperently this is a new thing in > holland, girls are lined up for shot against cervical cancer, i'm not > feeling good about this and need some feedback from you guys, hope to > hear from you, either on this group or perhaps private, you can email > me at bliksemskater > > thanks, rik > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 Actually, to be technical, it is for certain strains of HPV, which does not always mean warts. It can also cause " suspicious lesions " only seen internally and also no outward signs until it is cervical cancer. In fact, most strains do not cause external signs in females. The warts usually occur on men, but women can carry it and spread it as well. Tiffany --- On Fri, 2/27/09, Mercurius Trismegistus <magisterium_magnum wrote: Mercurius Trismegistus <magisterium_magnum Re: cervical cancer vaccination Friday, February 27, 2009, 12:21 PM The vaccine is for certain strains of warts. Some of which CAN be transmitted through sexual contact. The idea is that if someone gets genital warts, they are at increased risk for cancer. It is also NOT for all the strains of genital warts. Vaccines contain recombinant (mutant) virii and use toxic substances as preservatives, such as thimersol (mercury) and formaldehyde. It's a bit of a stretch to say it " stops the girls getting the virus that causes cancer. " It allegedly is somewhat effective at preventing SOME strains of warts. - " Vicky Moore " <crystalwitch@ live.co.uk> <> Friday, February 27, 2009 6:34 AM RE: cervical cancer vaccination Hi Rik, This vaccine has recently become available in the UK, and it has caused a lot of controversy here too! It is being offered to 13 year old girls in most schools (I believe they offer it at this age because the vaccine needs to be given before the girl has had sex, and at this age they should achieve this!!). From what I know about it, it can prevent cervical cancer by stopping the girls getting the virus which causes it. This is of course a good thing as cervical cancer is an awful, devastating disease. However, some people are worried about any possible side-effects in the future as it is a new vaccine, and also it is very expensive so here where we have the NHS (free healthcare) a lot of people are asking whether it is worth the cost. I hope this helps a bit! Vicky bliksemskater@ Thu, 26 Feb 2009 21:16:45 +0000 cervical cancer vaccination hello all, i'm asking some advice on cervical cancer vaccination, i'm asking for a friend's daughter who is about to make a decision if she wants to do this vaccination. apperently this is a new thing in holland, girls are lined up for shot against cervical cancer, i'm not feeling good about this and need some feedback from you guys, hope to hear from you, either on this group or perhaps private, you can email me at bliksemskater@ thanks, rik ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ Love Hotmail? Check out the new services from Windows Live! http://clk.atdmt. com/UKM/go/ 132630768/ direct/01/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2009 Report Share Posted March 1, 2009 What is the causal relationship to cancer, if any? - " Tiffany " <watchdogps Saturday, February 28, 2009 8:43 AM Re: cervical cancer vaccination > Actually, to be technical, it is for certain strains of HPV, which does > not always mean warts. It can also cause " suspicious lesions " only seen > internally and also no outward signs until it is cervical cancer. In fact, > most strains do not cause external signs in females. The warts usually > occur on men, but women can carry it and spread it as well. > > Tiffany > > --- On Fri, 2/27/09, Mercurius Trismegistus > <magisterium_magnum wrote: > Mercurius Trismegistus <magisterium_magnum > Re: cervical cancer vaccination > > Friday, February 27, 2009, 12:21 PM > > > > > > The vaccine is for certain strains of warts. Some of which CAN > be > > transmitted through sexual contact. The idea is that if someone gets > > genital warts, they are at increased risk for cancer. It is also NOT for > > all the strains of genital warts. > > Vaccines contain recombinant (mutant) virii and use toxic substances as > > preservatives, such as thimersol (mercury) and formaldehyde. > > It's a bit of a stretch to say it " stops the girls getting the virus that > > causes cancer. " It allegedly is somewhat effective at preventing SOME > > strains of warts. > > > > - > > " Vicky Moore " <crystalwitch@ live.co.uk> > > <> > > Friday, February 27, 2009 6:34 AM > > RE: cervical cancer vaccination > > > > Hi Rik, > > > > This vaccine has recently become available in the UK, and it has caused a > > lot of controversy here too! It is being offered to 13 year old girls in > > most schools (I believe they offer it at this age because the vaccine > needs > > to be given before the girl has had sex, and at this age they should > achieve > > this!!). > > > > From what I know about it, it can prevent cervical cancer by stopping the > > girls getting the virus which causes it. This is of course a good thing as > > cervical cancer is an awful, devastating disease. However, some people are > > worried about any possible side-effects in the future as it is a new > > vaccine, and also it is very expensive so here where we have the NHS (free > > healthcare) a lot of people are asking whether it is worth the cost. > > > > I hope this helps a bit! > > > > Vicky > > > > > > bliksemskater@ > > Thu, 26 Feb 2009 21:16:45 +0000 > > cervical cancer vaccination > > > > hello all, i'm asking some advice on cervical cancer vaccination, i'm > > asking for a friend's daughter who is about to make a decision if she > > wants to do this vaccination. apperently this is a new thing in > > holland, girls are lined up for shot against cervical cancer, i'm not > > feeling good about this and need some feedback from you guys, hope to > > hear from you, either on this group or perhaps private, you can email > > me at bliksemskater@ > > > > thanks, rik > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > Love Hotmail? Check out the new services from Windows Live! > > http://clk.atdmt. com/UKM/go/ 132630768/ direct/01/ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2009 Report Share Posted March 2, 2009 The lesions or warts can turn cancerous. Tiffany --- On Sat, 2/28/09, Mercurius Trismegistus <magisterium_magnum wrote: Mercurius Trismegistus <magisterium_magnum Re: cervical cancer vaccination Saturday, February 28, 2009, 11:53 PM What is the causal relationship to cancer, if any? - " Tiffany " <watchdogps > <> Saturday, February 28, 2009 8:43 AM Re: cervical cancer vaccination > Actually, to be technical, it is for certain strains of HPV, which does > not always mean warts. It can also cause " suspicious lesions " only seen > internally and also no outward signs until it is cervical cancer. In fact, > most strains do not cause external signs in females. The warts usually > occur on men, but women can carry it and spread it as well. > > Tiffany > > --- On Fri, 2/27/09, Mercurius Trismegistus > <magisterium_ magnum (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote: > Mercurius Trismegistus <magisterium_ magnum (AT) comcast (DOT) net> > Re: cervical cancer vaccination > > Friday, February 27, 2009, 12:21 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > The vaccine is for certain strains of warts. Some of which CAN > be > > transmitted through sexual contact. The idea is that if someone gets > > genital warts, they are at increased risk for cancer. It is also NOT for > > all the strains of genital warts. > > Vaccines contain recombinant (mutant) virii and use toxic substances as > > preservatives, such as thimersol (mercury) and formaldehyde. > > It's a bit of a stretch to say it " stops the girls getting the virus that > > causes cancer. " It allegedly is somewhat effective at preventing SOME > > strains of warts. > > > > - > > " Vicky Moore " <crystalwitch@ live.co.uk> > > > > Friday, February 27, 2009 6:34 AM > > RE: cervical cancer vaccination > > > > Hi Rik, > > > > This vaccine has recently become available in the UK, and it has caused a > > lot of controversy here too! It is being offered to 13 year old girls in > > most schools (I believe they offer it at this age because the vaccine > needs > > to be given before the girl has had sex, and at this age they should > achieve > > this!!). > > > > From what I know about it, it can prevent cervical cancer by stopping the > > girls getting the virus which causes it. This is of course a good thing as > > cervical cancer is an awful, devastating disease. However, some people are > > worried about any possible side-effects in the future as it is a new > > vaccine, and also it is very expensive so here where we have the NHS (free > > healthcare) a lot of people are asking whether it is worth the cost. > > > > I hope this helps a bit! > > > > Vicky > > > > > > bliksemskater@ > > Thu, 26 Feb 2009 21:16:45 +0000 > > cervical cancer vaccination > > > > hello all, i'm asking some advice on cervical cancer vaccination, i'm > > asking for a friend's daughter who is about to make a decision if she > > wants to do this vaccination. apperently this is a new thing in > > holland, girls are lined up for shot against cervical cancer, i'm not > > feeling good about this and need some feedback from you guys, hope to > > hear from you, either on this group or perhaps private, you can email > > me at bliksemskater@ > > > > thanks, rik > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > Love Hotmail? Check out the new services from Windows Live! > > http://clk.atdmt. com/UKM/go/ 132630768/ direct/01/ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2009 Report Share Posted March 2, 2009 Thank you everyone for responding to my post (O: i will forward this to my girlfriend and her sister who also has got to decide for her child, i just got off the phone with her and told her i would send this to her also, so thanks for the very useful advice and have a great day, toodles, rik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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