Guest guest Posted February 10, 2009 Report Share Posted February 10, 2009 How do I find a homeopath who would do a phone consultation and how do I know if he or she would be good? I'm sure it's like any profession---the good and the bad and the OK. I just wrote a long post, but it disappeared, so I'm not sure if I hit send while I was looking up something. If so, sorry. I'm going to try to re-write it. I have tons of books on homeopathy. I have narrowed down the choices among the Personality Profiles in Baileys book. I know a homeopath could not spend as much time with me trying to get to the corners of who I am as I have by reading these profiles. I wish I fit one, but I don't. I liked the Sepia a great deal at first, and I took Sepia and responded to it. It's my understanding that a homeopath will have you take a remedy and wait and see if you respond. I also took Ignatia because I saw a lot of me in that profile and he said any of the types can go into an Ignatia state during intense grief and I was having that. I responded well to Ignatia too. I read the Nat Mur and was suspicious of it, because he says it is so common, and few people seem to be like me. I tried the rememdy when I got upset and wanted to overeat---no response. (interestingly, nat mur is in both these products that work for me and only 4 ingredients overlap). The best possibility thus far is either Pulsatilla or Calc Carb or both. Both are in the calm mint and in the slim cream (and there are only 4 ingred that overlap, as I said). Both of these products work really well---I just wish I could find the cream again because the calm mint makes me sleepy). So I tried both calc carb and pulsatilla this week and saw my eating return to normal. In another book, it said if you have a chronic condition, (which I think mine is as opposed to acute because it has been going on for so long and is so out of control), he said you could take low doses for three weeks and then switch for a week and do that series again. Since I understand this trial and error is what a homeopath would do anyway, that's what I'm doing until I can find someone. What I read about Pulsatilla and Calc carb in Baileys book also led me to believe I could fall into those groups. But I find that self reporting is hard---I don't see myself as an oyster, but I probably am a great deal in certain situations. Also, he talks about the calc carbs being dull---I definitely am not dull, but then I saw that he draws that conclusion from things I have done in my life to " cope " with situations. So I think his observations of the types may be accurate, but the conclusions are not. I saw that a lot in his book. , " Elizabeth Brandegee " <lightspirals wrote: > > Hello, > Yes, we frown - but for some good reasons These products send the > person's energy in various directions and are combined using > allopathic standards, not holistic/homeopathic....rather than a > single, correct, complete match for overall permanent resolution. > Your experience with calm and weight loss combos was a lucky strike > because one of the remedies may have resonated with you. That remedy > could be a fit, or just be close to your correct remedy (there are > thousands)...then would need to be in the appropriate potency to reach > deeply enough, and be followed through the layers that make up your > unique life. > I'm sorry but you would not be able to be guided properly without an > in-depth exchange with a homeopath. You just can't get the results > from a modality capable of healing the whole person with partial > information, that is allopathy (who's tools are incapable). > Many homeopaths can consult by phone if there is none in your area. > Liz > > , " letters4rebecca " > <letters4rebecca@> wrote: > > > > I know homeopaths frown on the use of a combo remedy, but I have no > > access to a homeopath and I know my ear remedy (which is a combo) and > > the calm rememdy (also a combo) both work. They work when traditional > > medicine comepletely failed to solve my ear problems. I wouldn't take > > anything for that remedy. This weight loss rememdy with the > > ingredients below was in a cream called slim patch (not the patch you > > see adverised, this was a cream). IT REALLY WORKED! I need to find > > it. I've tried and tried to use one or the other of the remedies below > > to figure out which one was the one, but without success. I need some > > guidance. > > > > Active Ingredients: Abies Canadensis (3X), Ammonium Bromatum (6X), > > Ammonium Carbonicum (6X), Ammonium Muriaticum (6X), Antimonium > > Crudum (9X), Argentum Metallicum (9X), Argentum Nitricum (6X), > > Calcarea Carbonica (9X), Capsium Annuum (6X), Chichona Officinalis > > (6X), Fucus Vesiculosus (1X), Graphites (8X), Kali Bichromicum (6X), > > Kali Carbonicum (6X), Kali Phosphoricum (6X), Lycopodium Clavatum (3X), > > Natrum- Muriaticum (9X), Phosphorus(6X), Phytolocca Decandra Bacca > > (3X), Pulsatilla (9X), Sabadilla (6X), Silicea (12X), Spongia Tosta > > (3X), Staphisagria (6X), Sulphur (7X), Thyroidinum(7X, 9X), Veratrum > > Album (6X), 3.4% Ethanol > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 Those I do myself, and many colleagues I refer to for in-person or phone work. I'll give you some names offlist, with some questions to ask. It's great you're trying to work on this, I admire your will But it's like cutting your own hair - can't see all the way around (perspective) or have an objective enough view. We are told in schooling not to treat ourselves, no matter your skill. Yes, things come up and we do for certain situations but those two things need to be heeded. You can share your remedy thoughts with your homeopath and it will be taken into consideration I'm sure. You may not be exactly one of those remedy pictures in that book, but one that is close to it or related due to some aspect of the case. We look at overall themes and threads, which layers and miasms are present, which potency and timing is best....much more complex than you'd think We often spend 1-3 hours on a case, sometimes 6-7 in the earlier years or on a tough one. So you're doing the process similar like a homeopath, yes, but do not have the training and experience to see enough. You see how you 'look like this remedy and that one' 'I'm like this one, but don't have that quality'.....believe me, you will see some of yourself in many many remedies, this is where skill is needed. In school we all went through that studying.... 'ooo, I'm that remedy' 'I feel like this remedy' on and on. Very rarely do you get yourself right, and then as mentioned, management is still needed. In time you can perhaps help some friends and family with acutes with your self study though. If you really want more, join a study group or find a school Liz , " letters4rebecca " <letters4rebecca wrote: > > How do I find a homeopath who would do a phone consultation and how > do I know if he or she would be good? I'm sure it's like any > profession---the good and the bad and the OK. > > I just wrote a long post, but it disappeared, so I'm not sure if I > hit send while I was looking up something. If so, sorry. I'm going > to try to re-write it. > > I have tons of books on homeopathy. I have narrowed down the choices > among the Personality Profiles in Baileys book. I know a homeopath > could not spend as much time with me trying to get to the corners of > who I am as I have by reading these profiles. I wish I fit one, but > I don't. I liked the Sepia a great deal at first, and I took Sepia > and responded to it. It's my understanding that a homeopath will > have you take a remedy and wait and see if you respond. > > I also took Ignatia because I saw a lot of me in that profile and he > said any of the types can go into an Ignatia state during intense > grief and I was having that. I responded well to Ignatia too. > > I read the Nat Mur and was suspicious of it, because he says it is so > common, and few people seem to be like me. I tried the rememdy when > I got upset and wanted to overeat---no response. (interestingly, nat > mur is in both these products that work for me and only 4 ingredients > overlap). > > The best possibility thus far is either Pulsatilla or Calc Carb or > both. Both are in the calm mint and in the slim cream (and there are > only 4 ingred that overlap, as I said). Both of these products work > really well---I just wish I could find the cream again because the > calm mint makes me sleepy). > > So I tried both calc carb and pulsatilla this week and saw my eating > return to normal. > > In another book, it said if you have a chronic condition, (which I > think mine is as opposed to acute because it has been going on for so > long and is so out of control), he said you could take low doses for > three weeks and then switch for a week and do that series again. > > Since I understand this trial and error is what a homeopath would do > anyway, that's what I'm doing until I can find someone. > > What I read about Pulsatilla and Calc carb in Baileys book also led > me to believe I could fall into those groups. But I find that self > reporting is hard---I don't see myself as an oyster, but I probably > am a great deal in certain situations. Also, he talks about the calc > carbs being dull---I definitely am not dull, but then I saw that he > draws that conclusion from things I have done in my life to " cope " > with situations. So I think his observations of the types may be > accurate, but the conclusions are not. I saw that a lot in his book. > > , " Elizabeth Brandegee " > <lightspirals@> wrote: > > > > Hello, > > Yes, we frown - but for some good reasons These products send > the > > person's energy in various directions and are combined using > > allopathic standards, not holistic/homeopathic....rather than a > > single, correct, complete match for overall permanent resolution. > > Your experience with calm and weight loss combos was a lucky strike > > because one of the remedies may have resonated with you. That > remedy > > could be a fit, or just be close to your correct remedy (there are > > thousands)...then would need to be in the appropriate potency to > reach > > deeply enough, and be followed through the layers that make up your > > unique life. > > I'm sorry but you would not be able to be guided properly without an > > in-depth exchange with a homeopath. You just can't get the results > > from a modality capable of healing the whole person with partial > > information, that is allopathy (who's tools are incapable). > > Many homeopaths can consult by phone if there is none in your area. > > Liz > > > > , " letters4rebecca " > > <letters4rebecca@> wrote: > > > > > > I know homeopaths frown on the use of a combo remedy, but I have > no > > > access to a homeopath and I know my ear remedy (which is a combo) > and > > > the calm rememdy (also a combo) both work. They work when > traditional > > > medicine comepletely failed to solve my ear problems. I wouldn't > take > > > anything for that remedy. This weight loss rememdy with the > > > ingredients below was in a cream called slim patch (not the patch > you > > > see adverised, this was a cream). IT REALLY WORKED! I need to > find > > > it. I've tried and tried to use one or the other of the remedies > below > > > to figure out which one was the one, but without success. I need > some > > > guidance. > > > > > > Active Ingredients: Abies Canadensis (3X), Ammonium Bromatum > (6X), > > > Ammonium Carbonicum (6X), Ammonium Muriaticum (6X), > Antimonium > > > Crudum (9X), Argentum Metallicum (9X), Argentum Nitricum (6X), > > > Calcarea Carbonica (9X), Capsium Annuum (6X), Chichona > Officinalis > > > (6X), Fucus Vesiculosus (1X), Graphites (8X), Kali Bichromicum > (6X), > > > Kali Carbonicum (6X), Kali Phosphoricum (6X), Lycopodium Clavatum > (3X), > > > Natrum- Muriaticum (9X), Phosphorus(6X), Phytolocca Decandra > Bacca > > > (3X), Pulsatilla (9X), Sabadilla (6X), Silicea (12X), Spongia > Tosta > > > (3X), Staphisagria (6X), Sulphur (7X), Thyroidinum(7X, 9X), > Veratrum > > > Album (6X), 3.4% Ethanol > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 Where do I find a study group? I'm not opposed to a phone consultation, but I don't know anything about how to select someone. , " Elizabeth Brandegee " <lightspirals wrote: > > Those I do myself, and many colleagues I refer to for in-person or > phone work. I'll give you some names offlist, with some questions to ask. > It's great you're trying to work on this, I admire your will But > it's like cutting your own hair - can't see all the way around > (perspective) or have an objective enough view. We are told in > schooling not to treat ourselves, no matter your skill. Yes, things > come up and we do for certain situations but those two things need to > be heeded. You can share your remedy thoughts with your homeopath and > it will be taken into consideration I'm sure. > You may not be exactly one of those remedy pictures in that book, but > one that is close to it or related due to some aspect of the case. We > look at overall themes and threads, which layers and miasms are > present, which potency and timing is best....much more complex than > you'd think We often spend 1-3 hours on a case, sometimes 6-7 in > the earlier years or on a tough one. > So you're doing the process similar like a homeopath, yes, but do not > have the training and experience to see enough. You see how you 'look > like this remedy and that one' 'I'm like this one, but don't have that > quality'.....believe me, you will see some of yourself in many many > remedies, this is where skill is needed. In school we all went > through that studying.... 'ooo, I'm that remedy' 'I feel like this > remedy' on and on. Very rarely do you get yourself right, and then as > mentioned, management is still needed. > In time you can perhaps help some friends and family with acutes with > your self study though. If you really want more, join a study group > or find a school > Liz > > , " letters4rebecca " > <letters4rebecca@> wrote: > > > > How do I find a homeopath who would do a phone consultation and how > > do I know if he or she would be good? I'm sure it's like any > > profession---the good and the bad and the OK. > > > > I just wrote a long post, but it disappeared, so I'm not sure if I > > hit send while I was looking up something. If so, sorry. I'm going > > to try to re-write it. > > > > I have tons of books on homeopathy. I have narrowed down the choices > > among the Personality Profiles in Baileys book. I know a homeopath > > could not spend as much time with me trying to get to the corners of > > who I am as I have by reading these profiles. I wish I fit one, but > > I don't. I liked the Sepia a great deal at first, and I took Sepia > > and responded to it. It's my understanding that a homeopath will > > have you take a remedy and wait and see if you respond. > > > > I also took Ignatia because I saw a lot of me in that profile and he > > said any of the types can go into an Ignatia state during intense > > grief and I was having that. I responded well to Ignatia too. > > > > I read the Nat Mur and was suspicious of it, because he says it is so > > common, and few people seem to be like me. I tried the rememdy when > > I got upset and wanted to overeat---no response. (interestingly, nat > > mur is in both these products that work for me and only 4 ingredients > > overlap). > > > > The best possibility thus far is either Pulsatilla or Calc Carb or > > both. Both are in the calm mint and in the slim cream (and there are > > only 4 ingred that overlap, as I said). Both of these products work > > really well---I just wish I could find the cream again because the > > calm mint makes me sleepy). > > > > So I tried both calc carb and pulsatilla this week and saw my eating > > return to normal. > > > > In another book, it said if you have a chronic condition, (which I > > think mine is as opposed to acute because it has been going on for so > > long and is so out of control), he said you could take low doses for > > three weeks and then switch for a week and do that series again. > > > > Since I understand this trial and error is what a homeopath would do > > anyway, that's what I'm doing until I can find someone. > > > > What I read about Pulsatilla and Calc carb in Baileys book also led > > me to believe I could fall into those groups. But I find that self > > reporting is hard---I don't see myself as an oyster, but I probably > > am a great deal in certain situations. Also, he talks about the calc > > carbs being dull---I definitely am not dull, but then I saw that he > > draws that conclusion from things I have done in my life to " cope " > > with situations. So I think his observations of the types may be > > accurate, but the conclusions are not. I saw that a lot in his book. > > > > , " Elizabeth Brandegee " > > <lightspirals@> wrote: > > > > > > Hello, > > > Yes, we frown - but for some good reasons These products send > > the > > > person's energy in various directions and are combined using > > > allopathic standards, not holistic/homeopathic....rather than a > > > single, correct, complete match for overall permanent resolution. > > > Your experience with calm and weight loss combos was a lucky strike > > > because one of the remedies may have resonated with you. That > > remedy > > > could be a fit, or just be close to your correct remedy (there are > > > thousands)...then would need to be in the appropriate potency to > > reach > > > deeply enough, and be followed through the layers that make up your > > > unique life. > > > I'm sorry but you would not be able to be guided properly without an > > > in-depth exchange with a homeopath. You just can't get the results > > > from a modality capable of healing the whole person with partial > > > information, that is allopathy (who's tools are incapable). > > > Many homeopaths can consult by phone if there is none in your area. > > > Liz > > > > > > , " letters4rebecca " > > > <letters4rebecca@> wrote: > > > > > > > > I know homeopaths frown on the use of a combo remedy, but I have > > no > > > > access to a homeopath and I know my ear remedy (which is a combo) > > and > > > > the calm rememdy (also a combo) both work. They work when > > traditional > > > > medicine comepletely failed to solve my ear problems. I wouldn't > > take > > > > anything for that remedy. This weight loss rememdy with the > > > > ingredients below was in a cream called slim patch (not the patch > > you > > > > see adverised, this was a cream). IT REALLY WORKED! I need to > > find > > > > it. I've tried and tried to use one or the other of the remedies > > below > > > > to figure out which one was the one, but without success. I need > > some > > > > guidance. > > > > > > > > Active Ingredients: Abies Canadensis (3X), Ammonium Bromatum > > (6X), > > > > Ammonium Carbonicum (6X), Ammonium Muriaticum (6X), > > Antimonium > > > > Crudum (9X), Argentum Metallicum (9X), Argentum Nitricum (6X), > > > > Calcarea Carbonica (9X), Capsium Annuum (6X), Chichona > > Officinalis > > > > (6X), Fucus Vesiculosus (1X), Graphites (8X), Kali Bichromicum > > (6X), > > > > Kali Carbonicum (6X), Kali Phosphoricum (6X), Lycopodium Clavatum > > (3X), > > > > Natrum- Muriaticum (9X), Phosphorus(6X), Phytolocca Decandra > > Bacca > > > > (3X), Pulsatilla (9X), Sabadilla (6X), Silicea (12X), Spongia > > Tosta > > > > (3X), Staphisagria (6X), Sulphur (7X), Thyroidinum(7X, 9X), > > Veratrum > > > > Album (6X), 3.4% Ethanol > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 Very nicely put Liz! You just can't possibly 'treat yourself' constitutionally. It's like this saying, " All instruction is but a finger pointing to the moon; and those whose gaze is fixed upon the pointer will never see beyond. Even let him catch sight of the moon, and still he cannot see its beauty " Treating yourself or taking remedies acutely is fine. But you have no way of being able to treat yourself constitutionally. Believe me! I have all the books and remedies (I don't treat myself constitutionally) and I see myself in all remedies. I'm ars., i'm lyc., i'm sulph. My homeopath?, first remedy he gave me was lachesis! Hmmm. Thus treating myself?, pointing at the moon! Max --- On Tue, 2/10/09, Elizabeth Brandegee <lightspirals wrote: Elizabeth Brandegee <lightspirals Re: homeopathy weight loss remedy Tuesday, February 10, 2009, 4:21 PM Those I do myself, and many colleagues I refer to for in-person or phone work. I'll give you some names offlist, with some questions to ask. It's great you're trying to work on this, I admire your will But it's like cutting your own hair - can't see all the way around (perspective) or have an objective enough view. We are told in schooling not to treat ourselves, no matter your skill. Yes, things come up and we do for certain situations but those two things need to be heeded. You can share your remedy thoughts with your homeopath and it will be taken into consideration I'm sure. You may not be exactly one of those remedy pictures in that book, but one that is close to it or related due to some aspect of the case. We look at overall themes and threads, which layers and miasms are present, which potency and timing is best....much more complex than you'd think We often spend 1-3 hours on a case, sometimes 6-7 in the earlier years or on a tough one. So you're doing the process similar like a homeopath, yes, but do not have the training and experience to see enough. You see how you 'look like this remedy and that one' 'I'm like this one, but don't have that quality'.... .believe me, you will see some of yourself in many many remedies, this is where skill is needed. In school we all went through that studying.... 'ooo, I'm that remedy' 'I feel like this remedy' on and on. Very rarely do you get yourself right, and then as mentioned, management is still needed. In time you can perhaps help some friends and family with acutes with your self study though. If you really want more, join a study group or find a school Liz , " letters4rebecca " <letters4rebecca@ ...> wrote: > > How do I find a homeopath who would do a phone consultation and how > do I know if he or she would be good? I'm sure it's like any > profession-- -the good and the bad and the OK. > > I just wrote a long post, but it disappeared, so I'm not sure if I > hit send while I was looking up something. If so, sorry. I'm going > to try to re-write it. > > I have tons of books on homeopathy. I have narrowed down the choices > among the Personality Profiles in Baileys book. I know a homeopath > could not spend as much time with me trying to get to the corners of > who I am as I have by reading these profiles. I wish I fit one, but > I don't. I liked the Sepia a great deal at first, and I took Sepia > and responded to it. It's my understanding that a homeopath will > have you take a remedy and wait and see if you respond. > > I also took Ignatia because I saw a lot of me in that profile and he > said any of the types can go into an Ignatia state during intense > grief and I was having that. I responded well to Ignatia too. > > I read the Nat Mur and was suspicious of it, because he says it is so > common, and few people seem to be like me. I tried the rememdy when > I got upset and wanted to overeat---no response. (interestingly, nat > mur is in both these products that work for me and only 4 ingredients > overlap). > > The best possibility thus far is either Pulsatilla or Calc Carb or > both. Both are in the calm mint and in the slim cream (and there are > only 4 ingred that overlap, as I said). Both of these products work > really well---I just wish I could find the cream again because the > calm mint makes me sleepy). > > So I tried both calc carb and pulsatilla this week and saw my eating > return to normal. > > In another book, it said if you have a chronic condition, (which I > think mine is as opposed to acute because it has been going on for so > long and is so out of control), he said you could take low doses for > three weeks and then switch for a week and do that series again. > > Since I understand this trial and error is what a homeopath would do > anyway, that's what I'm doing until I can find someone. > > What I read about Pulsatilla and Calc carb in Baileys book also led > me to believe I could fall into those groups. But I find that self > reporting is hard---I don't see myself as an oyster, but I probably > am a great deal in certain situations. Also, he talks about the calc > carbs being dull---I definitely am not dull, but then I saw that he > draws that conclusion from things I have done in my life to " cope " > with situations. So I think his observations of the types may be > accurate, but the conclusions are not. I saw that a lot in his book. > > , " Elizabeth Brandegee " > <lightspirals@ > wrote: > > > > Hello, > > Yes, we frown - but for some good reasons These products send > the > > person's energy in various directions and are combined using > > allopathic standards, not holistic/homeopathi c....rather than a > > single, correct, complete match for overall permanent resolution. > > Your experience with calm and weight loss combos was a lucky strike > > because one of the remedies may have resonated with you. That > remedy > > could be a fit, or just be close to your correct remedy (there are > > thousands).. .then would need to be in the appropriate potency to > reach > > deeply enough, and be followed through the layers that make up your > > unique life. > > I'm sorry but you would not be able to be guided properly without an > > in-depth exchange with a homeopath. You just can't get the results > > from a modality capable of healing the whole person with partial > > information, that is allopathy (who's tools are incapable). > > Many homeopaths can consult by phone if there is none in your area. > > Liz > > > > , " letters4rebecca " > > <letters4rebecca@ > wrote: > > > > > > I know homeopaths frown on the use of a combo remedy, but I have > no > > > access to a homeopath and I know my ear remedy (which is a combo) > and > > > the calm rememdy (also a combo) both work. They work when > traditional > > > medicine comepletely failed to solve my ear problems. I wouldn't > take > > > anything for that remedy. This weight loss rememdy with the > > > ingredients below was in a cream called slim patch (not the patch > you > > > see adverised, this was a cream). IT REALLY WORKED! I need to > find > > > it. I've tried and tried to use one or the other of the remedies > below > > > to figure out which one was the one, but without success. I need > some > > > guidance. > > > > > > Active Ingredients: Abies Canadensis (3X), Ammonium Bromatum > (6X), > > > Ammonium Carbonicum (6X), Ammonium Muriaticum (6X), > Antimonium > > > Crudum (9X), Argentum Metallicum (9X), Argentum Nitricum (6X), > > > Calcarea Carbonica (9X), Capsium Annuum (6X), Chichona > Officinalis > > > (6X), Fucus Vesiculosus (1X), Graphites (8X), Kali Bichromicum > (6X), > > > Kali Carbonicum (6X), Kali Phosphoricum (6X), Lycopodium Clavatum > (3X), > > > Natrum- Muriaticum (9X), Phosphorus(6X) , Phytolocca Decandra > Bacca > > > (3X), Pulsatilla (9X), Sabadilla (6X), Silicea (12X), Spongia > Tosta > > > (3X), Staphisagria (6X), Sulphur (7X), Thyroidinum( 7X, 9X), > Veratrum > > > Album (6X), 3.4% Ethanol > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 I believe the National Center for Homeopathy has a study group listing. I also have one somewhere...you'll have to tell me where you are. Good questions are... how long they studied and where (at least 400 hours...you wouldn't want someone who did a weekend course ), how long in practice (although that doesn't matter entirely, it's the skill and intuitive talent...all things refine in time of course though), whether they practice other modalities (best if they focus on homeopathy mainly), do they charge for every minute you speak to them, what is their availability/off hours, and generally feel comfortable with them. Be well, Liz , " letters4rebecca " <letters4rebecca wrote: > > Where do I find a study group? I'm not opposed to a phone > consultation, but I don't know anything about how to select someone. > > , " Elizabeth Brandegee " > <lightspirals@> wrote: > > > > Those I do myself, and many colleagues I refer to for in-person or > > phone work. I'll give you some names offlist, with some questions > to ask. > > It's great you're trying to work on this, I admire your will But > > it's like cutting your own hair - can't see all the way around > > (perspective) or have an objective enough view. We are told in > > schooling not to treat ourselves, no matter your skill. Yes, things > > come up and we do for certain situations but those two things need > to > > be heeded. You can share your remedy thoughts with your homeopath > and > > it will be taken into consideration I'm sure. > > You may not be exactly one of those remedy pictures in that book, > but > > one that is close to it or related due to some aspect of the case. > We > > look at overall themes and threads, which layers and miasms are > > present, which potency and timing is best....much more complex than > > you'd think We often spend 1-3 hours on a case, sometimes 6-7 in > > the earlier years or on a tough one. > > So you're doing the process similar like a homeopath, yes, but do > not > > have the training and experience to see enough. You see how > you 'look > > like this remedy and that one' 'I'm like this one, but don't have > that > > quality'.....believe me, you will see some of yourself in many many > > remedies, this is where skill is needed. In school we all went > > through that studying.... 'ooo, I'm that remedy' 'I feel like this > > remedy' on and on. Very rarely do you get yourself right, and then > as > > mentioned, management is still needed. > > In time you can perhaps help some friends and family with acutes > with > > your self study though. If you really want more, join a study group > > or find a school > > Liz > > > > , " letters4rebecca " > > <letters4rebecca@> wrote: > > > > > > How do I find a homeopath who would do a phone consultation and > how > > > do I know if he or she would be good? I'm sure it's like any > > > profession---the good and the bad and the OK. > > > > > > I just wrote a long post, but it disappeared, so I'm not sure if > I > > > hit send while I was looking up something. If so, sorry. I'm > going > > > to try to re-write it. > > > > > > I have tons of books on homeopathy. I have narrowed down the > choices > > > among the Personality Profiles in Baileys book. I know a > homeopath > > > could not spend as much time with me trying to get to the corners > of > > > who I am as I have by reading these profiles. I wish I fit one, > but > > > I don't. I liked the Sepia a great deal at first, and I took > Sepia > > > and responded to it. It's my understanding that a homeopath will > > > have you take a remedy and wait and see if you respond. > > > > > > I also took Ignatia because I saw a lot of me in that profile and > he > > > said any of the types can go into an Ignatia state during intense > > > grief and I was having that. I responded well to Ignatia too. > > > > > > I read the Nat Mur and was suspicious of it, because he says it > is so > > > common, and few people seem to be like me. I tried the rememdy > when > > > I got upset and wanted to overeat---no response. (interestingly, > nat > > > mur is in both these products that work for me and only 4 > ingredients > > > overlap). > > > > > > The best possibility thus far is either Pulsatilla or Calc Carb > or > > > both. Both are in the calm mint and in the slim cream (and there > are > > > only 4 ingred that overlap, as I said). Both of these products > work > > > really well---I just wish I could find the cream again because > the > > > calm mint makes me sleepy). > > > > > > So I tried both calc carb and pulsatilla this week and saw my > eating > > > return to normal. > > > > > > In another book, it said if you have a chronic condition, (which > I > > > think mine is as opposed to acute because it has been going on > for so > > > long and is so out of control), he said you could take low doses > for > > > three weeks and then switch for a week and do that series again. > > > > > > Since I understand this trial and error is what a homeopath would > do > > > anyway, that's what I'm doing until I can find someone. > > > > > > What I read about Pulsatilla and Calc carb in Baileys book also > led > > > me to believe I could fall into those groups. But I find that > self > > > reporting is hard---I don't see myself as an oyster, but I > probably > > > am a great deal in certain situations. Also, he talks about the > calc > > > carbs being dull---I definitely am not dull, but then I saw that > he > > > draws that conclusion from things I have done in my life > to " cope " > > > with situations. So I think his observations of the types may be > > > accurate, but the conclusions are not. I saw that a lot in his > book. > > > > > > , " Elizabeth Brandegee " > > > <lightspirals@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > Yes, we frown - but for some good reasons These products > send > > > the > > > > person's energy in various directions and are combined using > > > > allopathic standards, not holistic/homeopathic....rather than a > > > > single, correct, complete match for overall permanent > resolution. > > > > Your experience with calm and weight loss combos was a lucky > strike > > > > because one of the remedies may have resonated with you. That > > > remedy > > > > could be a fit, or just be close to your correct remedy (there > are > > > > thousands)...then would need to be in the appropriate potency > to > > > reach > > > > deeply enough, and be followed through the layers that make up > your > > > > unique life. > > > > I'm sorry but you would not be able to be guided properly > without an > > > > in-depth exchange with a homeopath. You just can't get the > results > > > > from a modality capable of healing the whole person with partial > > > > information, that is allopathy (who's tools are incapable). > > > > Many homeopaths can consult by phone if there is none in your > area. > > > > Liz > > > > > > > > , " letters4rebecca " > > > > <letters4rebecca@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I know homeopaths frown on the use of a combo remedy, but I > have > > > no > > > > > access to a homeopath and I know my ear remedy (which is a > combo) > > > and > > > > > the calm rememdy (also a combo) both work. They work when > > > traditional > > > > > medicine comepletely failed to solve my ear problems. I > wouldn't > > > take > > > > > anything for that remedy. This weight loss rememdy with the > > > > > ingredients below was in a cream called slim patch (not the > patch > > > you > > > > > see adverised, this was a cream). IT REALLY WORKED! I need > to > > > find > > > > > it. I've tried and tried to use one or the other of the > remedies > > > below > > > > > to figure out which one was the one, but without success. I > need > > > some > > > > > guidance. > > > > > > > > > > Active Ingredients: Abies Canadensis (3X), Ammonium Bromatum > > > (6X), > > > > > Ammonium Carbonicum (6X), Ammonium Muriaticum (6X), > > > Antimonium > > > > > Crudum (9X), Argentum Metallicum (9X), Argentum Nitricum > (6X), > > > > > Calcarea Carbonica (9X), Capsium Annuum (6X), Chichona > > > Officinalis > > > > > (6X), Fucus Vesiculosus (1X), Graphites (8X), Kali > Bichromicum > > > (6X), > > > > > Kali Carbonicum (6X), Kali Phosphoricum (6X), Lycopodium > Clavatum > > > (3X), > > > > > Natrum- Muriaticum (9X), Phosphorus(6X), Phytolocca Decandra > > > Bacca > > > > > (3X), Pulsatilla (9X), Sabadilla (6X), Silicea (12X), Spongia > > > Tosta > > > > > (3X), Staphisagria (6X), Sulphur (7X), Thyroidinum(7X, 9X), > > > Veratrum > > > > > Album (6X), 3.4% Ethanol > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 Thanks Max This was a great analogy. Yes, acute is fine...unless you are needing to treat an acute every week, then there are bigger issues. Lachesis, wonderful! I hope it's doing you well Liz , Max <orange_stuff99 wrote: > > Very nicely put Liz! You just can't possibly 'treat yourself' constitutionally. It's like this saying, > > " All instruction is but a finger pointing to the moon; and those whose gaze is fixed upon the pointer will never see beyond. Even let him catch sight of the moon, and still he cannot see its beauty " > > Treating yourself or taking remedies acutely is fine. But you have no way of being able to treat yourself constitutionally. Believe me! I have all the books and remedies (I don't treat myself constitutionally) and I see myself in all remedies. I'm ars., i'm lyc., i'm sulph. > My homeopath?, first remedy he gave me was lachesis! Hmmm. Thus treating myself?, pointing at the moon! > > Max > > --- On Tue, 2/10/09, Elizabeth Brandegee <lightspirals wrote: > Elizabeth Brandegee <lightspirals > Re: homeopathy weight loss remedy > > Tuesday, February 10, 2009, 4:21 PM > > > > > > Those I do myself, and many colleagues I refer to for in-person or > > phone work. I'll give you some names offlist, with some questions to ask. > > It's great you're trying to work on this, I admire your will But > > it's like cutting your own hair - can't see all the way around > > (perspective) or have an objective enough view. We are told in > > schooling not to treat ourselves, no matter your skill. Yes, things > > come up and we do for certain situations but those two things need to > > be heeded. You can share your remedy thoughts with your homeopath and > > it will be taken into consideration I'm sure. > > You may not be exactly one of those remedy pictures in that book, but > > one that is close to it or related due to some aspect of the case. We > > look at overall themes and threads, which layers and miasms are > > present, which potency and timing is best....much more complex than > > you'd think We often spend 1-3 hours on a case, sometimes 6-7 in > > the earlier years or on a tough one. > > So you're doing the process similar like a homeopath, yes, but do not > > have the training and experience to see enough. You see how you 'look > > like this remedy and that one' 'I'm like this one, but don't have that > > quality'.... .believe me, you will see some of yourself in many many > > remedies, this is where skill is needed. In school we all went > > through that studying.... 'ooo, I'm that remedy' 'I feel like this > > remedy' on and on. Very rarely do you get yourself right, and then as > > mentioned, management is still needed. > > In time you can perhaps help some friends and family with acutes with > > your self study though. If you really want more, join a study group > > or find a school > > Liz > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 This was a time ago (the Lachesis)...which was followed by Puls, then Lyc., then Ars. So; as the layers of the onion unfold, so do the remedies change. Max --- On Wed, 2/11/09, Elizabeth Brandegee <lightspirals wrote: Elizabeth Brandegee <lightspirals Re: homeopathy weight loss remedy Wednesday, February 11, 2009, 1:29 PM Thanks Max This was a great analogy. Yes, acute is fine...unless you are needing to treat an acute every week, then there are bigger issues. Lachesis, wonderful! I hope it's doing you well Liz , Max <orange_stuff99@ ...> wrote: > > Very nicely put Liz! You just can't possibly 'treat yourself' constitutionally. It's like this saying, > > " All instruction is but a finger pointing to the moon; and those whose gaze is fixed upon the pointer will never see beyond. Even let him catch sight of the moon, and still he cannot see its beauty " > > Treating yourself or taking remedies acutely is fine. But you have no way of being able to treat yourself constitutionally. Believe me! I have all the books and remedies (I don't treat myself constitutionally) and I see myself in all remedies. I'm ars., i'm lyc., i'm sulph. > My homeopath?, first remedy he gave me was lachesis! Hmmm. Thus treating myself?, pointing at the moon! > > Max > > --- On Tue, 2/10/09, Elizabeth Brandegee <lightspirals@ ...> wrote: > Elizabeth Brandegee <lightspirals@ ...> > Re: homeopathy weight loss remedy > > Tuesday, February 10, 2009, 4:21 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > Those I do myself, and many colleagues I refer to for in-person or > > phone work. I'll give you some names offlist, with some questions to ask. > > It's great you're trying to work on this, I admire your will But > > it's like cutting your own hair - can't see all the way around > > (perspective) or have an objective enough view. We are told in > > schooling not to treat ourselves, no matter your skill. Yes, things > > come up and we do for certain situations but those two things need to > > be heeded. You can share your remedy thoughts with your homeopath and > > it will be taken into consideration I'm sure. > > You may not be exactly one of those remedy pictures in that book, but > > one that is close to it or related due to some aspect of the case. We > > look at overall themes and threads, which layers and miasms are > > present, which potency and timing is best....much more complex than > > you'd think We often spend 1-3 hours on a case, sometimes 6-7 in > > the earlier years or on a tough one. > > So you're doing the process similar like a homeopath, yes, but do not > > have the training and experience to see enough. You see how you 'look > > like this remedy and that one' 'I'm like this one, but don't have that > > quality'.... .believe me, you will see some of yourself in many many > > remedies, this is where skill is needed. In school we all went > > through that studying.... 'ooo, I'm that remedy' 'I feel like this > > remedy' on and on. Very rarely do you get yourself right, and then as > > mentioned, management is still needed. > > In time you can perhaps help some friends and family with acutes with > > your self study though. If you really want more, join a study group > > or find a school > > Liz > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 Yes, these are great questions because I have studied more than 400 hours. Homeopathy is very interesting---however, I have no desire to interject myself into other's health issues beyond telling them to find a homeopath. That's not my goal. I would go to an excellent homeopath if I had one here. I live in NW Florida---no point in sending Florida listings, because Miami is as far from me as Indiana. It's not a populous area and I have only met one homeopath here (no longer here) and she looked in such poor health I didn't have faith in her abilities. You just have to be healthy if you want to come across as a healer. I know homeopathy works because of the ear remedy. I know Karl Lagerfeld had great success with it with his weight. But I also know there are the good, the bad, and the others. Until I can find someone who has been successfully treated to recommend a homeopath (or find Karl's homeopath), I don't see many choices I have beyond continuing to study and talking to other homeopaths. I agree that self-diagnosis is tricky, but I'm pretty close---not because I see myself in the profiles in Bailey's books. It's true enough that I can narrow myself down to a handful, but there's still a handful. I think I am close because I know what I respond to, and I think it's a matter of fine tuning the doses. Thanks so much for your insights and assistance. , " Elizabeth Brandegee " <lightspirals wrote: > > I believe the National Center for Homeopathy has a study group > listing. I also have one somewhere...you'll have to tell me where you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 Yes, a profound process it is Liz , Max <orange_stuff99 wrote: > > This was a time ago (the Lachesis)...which was followed by Puls, then Lyc., then Ars. So; as the layers of the onion unfold, so do the remedies change. > > Max > > --- On Wed, 2/11/09, Elizabeth Brandegee <lightspirals wrote: > Elizabeth Brandegee <lightspirals > Re: homeopathy weight loss remedy > > Wednesday, February 11, 2009, 1:29 PM > > > > > > Thanks Max This was a great analogy. Yes, acute is fine...unless > > you are needing to treat an acute every week, then there are bigger > > issues. Lachesis, wonderful! I hope it's doing you well > > Liz > > > > , Max <orange_stuff99@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > Very nicely put Liz! You just can't possibly 'treat yourself' > > constitutionally. It's like this saying, > > > > > > " All instruction is but a finger pointing to the moon; and those > > whose gaze is fixed upon the pointer will never see beyond. Even let > > him catch sight of the moon, and still he cannot see its beauty " > > > > > > Treating yourself or taking remedies acutely is fine. But you have > > no way of being able to treat yourself constitutionally. Believe me! > > I have all the books and remedies (I don't treat myself > > constitutionally) and I see myself in all remedies. I'm ars., i'm > > lyc., i'm sulph. > > > My homeopath?, first remedy he gave me was lachesis! Hmmm. Thus > > treating myself?, pointing at the moon! > > > > > > Max > > > > > > --- On Tue, 2/10/09, Elizabeth Brandegee <lightspirals@ ...> wrote: > > > Elizabeth Brandegee <lightspirals@ ...> > > > Re: homeopathy weight loss remedy > > > > > > Tuesday, February 10, 2009, 4:21 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Those I do myself, and many colleagues I refer to for > > in-person or > > > > > > phone work. I'll give you some names offlist, with some questions > > to ask. > > > > > > It's great you're trying to work on this, I admire your will But > > > > > > it's like cutting your own hair - can't see all the way around > > > > > > (perspective) or have an objective enough view. We are told in > > > > > > schooling not to treat ourselves, no matter your skill. Yes, things > > > > > > come up and we do for certain situations but those two things need to > > > > > > be heeded. You can share your remedy thoughts with your homeopath and > > > > > > it will be taken into consideration I'm sure. > > > > > > You may not be exactly one of those remedy pictures in that book, but > > > > > > one that is close to it or related due to some aspect of the case. We > > > > > > look at overall themes and threads, which layers and miasms are > > > > > > present, which potency and timing is best....much more complex than > > > > > > you'd think We often spend 1-3 hours on a case, sometimes 6-7 in > > > > > > the earlier years or on a tough one. > > > > > > So you're doing the process similar like a homeopath, yes, but do not > > > > > > have the training and experience to see enough. You see how you 'look > > > > > > like this remedy and that one' 'I'm like this one, but don't have that > > > > > > quality'.... .believe me, you will see some of yourself in many many > > > > > > remedies, this is where skill is needed. In school we all went > > > > > > through that studying.... 'ooo, I'm that remedy' 'I feel like this > > > > > > remedy' on and on. Very rarely do you get yourself right, and then as > > > > > > mentioned, management is still needed. > > > > > > In time you can perhaps help some friends and family with acutes with > > > > > > your self study though. If you really want more, join a study group > > > > > > or find a school > > > > > > Liz > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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