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Hi my name is Sarah and I chose not to vax my children. Because I

choose not too, my children have come down with whooping cough. I had

my son tested (big mistake) and because it was positive the health

dept. was notified. So now I have this lady calling me and I feel

harrasing me about my children because they are not vaxed neither are

they on the antibiotics I feel like lying to this lady but I know God

doesnt want me to lie either so I tell her the truth when she asks

her 20 ?'s. I have choose to do alternatives to the antibiotics

(which only makes them not contagious) and we a quarintined to the

house. My husband is working he has to. If you dont work you dont

eat. We did start him on antibiotics because he is in public but it

hasnt been the full 5 days. So she is telling me he needs to come

home now. Well I can see where she is coming from not wanting to

spread it. But can they do anything to me for not giving my kids

antibiotics, like can they say I am neglecting my children and take

them away. I am really worried and scared this could get out of hand.

I am about ready to break and give them the antibiotics knowing it

will most likly make them worse. But make everyone else happy. My own

mom isnt talking to me because of all this it is really crazy. THese

are my kids and I am doing what I believe is best for them. Let me

know if you have any input please. THanks.

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Hi Sarah,

I truly empathize with your situation. I also beleive that

vaccinations do pose a risk, and can sometimes in certain

individuals do more harm than good.

When I was 8 or 9 years old, my brother was vaccinated for

Diptheria/Tetanus. The doctors already suspected him of being

allergic to medications because my mom is highly allergic to most

everything. So they gave him a half dose of the vaccine. It nearly

killed him. I will never forget walking into his room and finding

him cold and stiff in his crib. It was a miracle from God that he

survived. So, I fully understand your decision not to vaccinate.

As for your predicament with the Whooping Cough, antibiotics may or

may not completely rid your children and husband of the infection.

I do not know if your children may or may not be taken from you.

That would depend entirely on your state's laws. But I would

heartily recommend that you give Colloidal Silver a try. I was just

on another thread discussing Utopia Silver's Advanced Colloidal

Silver. It is truly wonderful. It is safe, natural and effective.

I used it to cure myself of Lyme disease, which is extremely

difficult to get rid of and antibiotics did not work for me. Then

the medical establishment cut me off and would give me nothing. I

was still in pain and running a 100+ degree temp. Silver was the

only thing that did work.

My step-daughters have taken silver from time to time. I believe it

would be quite efficient in returning your children and husband to

full health. Then the whole situation would resolve itself. After

a week or two taking the silver, their tests should come back

negative for the pathogen.

My Lyme tests did, and the doctors were astounded that I was able to

do it!

And for future outbreaks of any disease, you might want to keep some

silver on hand, just in case.

Good Luck! -H.

 

 

 

, " saraheppert "

<saraheppert wrote:

>

> Hi my name is Sarah and I chose not to vax my children. Because I

> choose not too, my children have come down with whooping cough. I

had

> my son tested (big mistake) and because it was positive the health

> dept. was notified. So now I have this lady calling me and I feel

> harrasing me about my children because they are not vaxed neither

are

> they on the antibiotics I feel like lying to this lady but I know

God

> doesnt want me to lie either so I tell her the truth when she asks

> her 20 ?'s. I have choose to do alternatives to the antibiotics

> (which only makes them not contagious) and we a quarintined to the

> house. My husband is working he has to. If you dont work you dont

> eat. We did start him on antibiotics because he is in public but

it

> hasnt been the full 5 days. So she is telling me he needs to come

> home now. Well I can see where she is coming from not wanting to

> spread it. But can they do anything to me for not giving my kids

> antibiotics, like can they say I am neglecting my children and

take

> them away. I am really worried and scared this could get out of

hand.

> I am about ready to break and give them the antibiotics knowing it

> will most likly make them worse. But make everyone else happy. My

own

> mom isnt talking to me because of all this it is really crazy.

THese

> are my kids and I am doing what I believe is best for them. Let me

> know if you have any input please. THanks.

>

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First, what state are you in?

Second, " NOT " vax your children is perfectly legal...once your children are

school age " IF " you put them in public school this can be an issue.  (I can help

you with that as far as options in dealing with the " requirements " etc so you

can continue to raise them vax free)

I would 'consider' talking you your physcian, and ask what the benefits of

anti-biotics are for whooping cough.  Since the 'only' reason to give

anti-biotics for whooping cough is to 'hopefully' shorten the duration. A friend

of mine; her son had whooping cough, no treatment necessary and he recovered

nicely.

The health department 'could' report you to DFS, DO NOT let DFS in your home!

I highly suggest speaking with your physcian and getting him/her on your

side...let them know you are not averse to anti-biotic treatment (whether you

are or not) but would like to take a more passive approach...as you've

researched lots of info such as the excerpt below.

Below I've copied and pasted an excerpt from the Mayo Clinic:

 

 

Older children, teens and adults

 

When whooping cough is diagnosed early in older children, teenagers and

adults, doctors usually prescribe bed rest along with an antibiotic

such as azithromycin or erythromycin. Although antibiotics won't cure

whooping cough, they can shorten the duration of the illness and they

shorten the period of communicability. If there is a confirmed

diagnosis but a slow response to antibiotic therapy, it may be

necessary to take the antibiotic for at least two weeks or longer.

 

If the illness has progressed to the point of severe coughing

spells, antibiotics aren't as effective but may still be used.

Unfortunately, not much is available in the way of symptom relief.

Over-the-counter cough medicines, for instance, have little effect on

whooping cough. A case of whooping cough usually resolves in six weeks

but may last longer.

 

 

--- On Thu, 2/5/09, saraheppert <saraheppert wrote:

saraheppert <saraheppert

Whooping Cough- Health Department

 

Thursday, February 5, 2009, 7:04 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hi my name is Sarah and I chose not to vax my children. Because I

 

choose not too, my children have come down with whooping cough. I had

 

my son tested (big mistake) and because it was positive the health

 

dept. was notified. So now I have this lady calling me and I feel

 

harrasing me about my children because they are not vaxed neither are

 

they on the antibiotics I feel like lying to this lady but I know God

 

doesnt want me to lie either so I tell her the truth when she asks

 

her 20 ?'s. I have choose to do alternatives to the antibiotics

 

(which only makes them not contagious) and we a quarintined to the

 

house. My husband is working he has to. If you dont work you dont

 

eat. We did start him on antibiotics because he is in public but it

 

hasnt been the full 5 days. So she is telling me he needs to come

 

home now. Well I can see where she is coming from not wanting to

 

spread it. But can they do anything to me for not giving my kids

 

antibiotics, like can they say I am neglecting my children and take

 

them away. I am really worried and scared this could get out of hand.

 

I am about ready to break and give them the antibiotics knowing it

 

will most likly make them worse. But make everyone else happy. My own

 

mom isnt talking to me because of all this it is really crazy. THese

 

are my kids and I am doing what I believe is best for them. Let me

 

know if you have any input please. THanks.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Also, your husband is contagious until he's been on anti-biotics for 5 days...he

should come  home because he's exposing others...sorry.

 

Max

 

--- On Thu, 2/5/09, saraheppert <saraheppert wrote:

saraheppert <saraheppert

Whooping Cough- Health Department

 

Thursday, February 5, 2009, 7:04 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hi my name is Sarah and I chose not to vax my children. Because I

 

choose not too, my children have come down with whooping cough. I had

 

my son tested (big mistake) and because it was positive the health

 

dept. was notified. So now I have this lady calling me and I feel

 

harrasing me about my children because they are not vaxed neither are

 

they on the antibiotics I feel like lying to this lady but I know God

 

doesnt want me to lie either so I tell her the truth when she asks

 

her 20 ?'s. I have choose to do alternatives to the antibiotics

 

(which only makes them not contagious) and we a quarintined to the

 

house. My husband is working he has to. If you dont work you dont

 

eat. We did start him on antibiotics because he is in public but it

 

hasnt been the full 5 days. So she is telling me he needs to come

 

home now. Well I can see where she is coming from not wanting to

 

spread it. But can they do anything to me for not giving my kids

 

antibiotics, like can they say I am neglecting my children and take

 

them away. I am really worried and scared this could get out of hand.

 

I am about ready to break and give them the antibiotics knowing it

 

will most likly make them worse. But make everyone else happy. My own

 

mom isnt talking to me because of all this it is really crazy. THese

 

are my kids and I am doing what I believe is best for them. Let me

 

know if you have any input please. THanks.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Sarah,

 

I am usually honest people, but there are times when a small lie may be

justified. Meanwhile, you might want to keep antibiotics handy just in

case your children do not respond to the milder more natural products.

 

Don't get dogmatic in either direction, and never say never.

What are you using?

 

You have my deepest sympathy in this matter. It is getting scary.

 

Ien in the Kootenays

http://freegreenliving.com (blog)

http://wildwholefoods.net (the ultimate supplement)

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I'm cautious with medicine, but you need the antibiotics for them.  I believe in

a healthy diet and dont go along with doctors unless I read about something, but

certain sicknesses need antibiotics. 

 

--- On Fri, 2/6/09, hbaddley <gothicpoesy wrote:

 

 

hbaddley <gothicpoesy

Re: Whooping Cough- Health Department

 

Friday, February 6, 2009, 4:22 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hi Sarah,

I truly empathize with your situation. I also beleive that

vaccinations do pose a risk, and can sometimes in certain

individuals do more harm than good.

When I was 8 or 9 years old, my brother was vaccinated for

Diptheria/Tetanus. The doctors already suspected him of being

allergic to medications because my mom is highly allergic to most

everything. So they gave him a half dose of the vaccine. It nearly

killed him. I will never forget walking into his room and finding

him cold and stiff in his crib. It was a miracle from God that he

survived. So, I fully understand your decision not to vaccinate.

As for your predicament with the Whooping Cough, antibiotics may or

may not completely rid your children and husband of the infection.

I do not know if your children may or may not be taken from you.

That would depend entirely on your state's laws. But I would

heartily recommend that you give Colloidal Silver a try. I was just

on another thread discussing Utopia Silver's Advanced Colloidal

Silver. It is truly wonderful. It is safe, natural and effective.

I used it to cure myself of Lyme disease, which is extremely

difficult to get rid of and antibiotics did not work for me. Then

the medical establishment cut me off and would give me nothing. I

was still in pain and running a 100+ degree temp. Silver was the

only thing that did work.

My step-daughters have taken silver from time to time. I believe it

would be quite efficient in returning your children and husband to

full health. Then the whole situation would resolve itself. After

a week or two taking the silver, their tests should come back

negative for the pathogen.

My Lyme tests did, and the doctors were astounded that I was able to

do it!

And for future outbreaks of any disease, you might want to keep some

silver on hand, just in case.

Good Luck! -H.

 

, " saraheppert "

<saraheppert@ ...> wrote:

>

> Hi my name is Sarah and I chose not to vax my children. Because I

> choose not too, my children have come down with whooping cough. I

had

> my son tested (big mistake) and because it was positive the health

> dept. was notified. So now I have this lady calling me and I feel

> harrasing me about my children because they are not vaxed neither

are

> they on the antibiotics I feel like lying to this lady but I know

God

> doesnt want me to lie either so I tell her the truth when she asks

> her 20 ?'s. I have choose to do alternatives to the antibiotics

> (which only makes them not contagious) and we a quarintined to the

> house. My husband is working he has to. If you dont work you dont

> eat. We did start him on antibiotics because he is in public but

it

> hasnt been the full 5 days. So she is telling me he needs to come

> home now. Well I can see where she is coming from not wanting to

> spread it. But can they do anything to me for not giving my kids

> antibiotics, like can they say I am neglecting my children and

take

> them away. I am really worried and scared this could get out of

hand.

> I am about ready to break and give them the antibiotics knowing it

> will most likly make them worse. But make everyone else happy. My

own

> mom isnt talking to me because of all this it is really crazy.

THese

> are my kids and I am doing what I believe is best for them. Let me

> know if you have any input please. THanks.

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Sarah;

 

how are your children and hubby; did you hubby do the antibiotics?

 

Since you waited so long to give the antibiotics to your children;

which you must do since they are not vaccinated if you want them to

get well; if you do not give the antibiotics they could get sicker;

 

AntiBiotics work ONLY if given daily for the number of pills in

bottle; now hear this:

 

YOU SHOULD CONTACT THE SOCIAL WORKER AND SAY;

 

I HAVE DECIDED TO GIVE MY KIDS THE ANTI BIOITCS AFTER ALL;

 

BUT i DO NOT KNOW IF THE PILLS ARE SAFE...

 

BEING I WAITED SO LONG; then say;

 

Should I begin the Antibiotics I have here today?

 

or should teh ch8ildren require another Doc. visit ?

 

If worker says give pills u have then do that; if worker says new

doctor appoint needed then do that; IF you comply with waht tehy say

 

the children will be safe and will get well; Whooping cough is very

bad

don;'t fool around antibiotics are safe and effective; antibiotics

are natural

 

some antibitoics are harvested from the " Dead Sea; this is where

Jesus preached; how bad could anitbiotics from the Dead

Sea be ? Anitbiotics are considered miracle durgs use every pill

though

 

NEVER begin and antibioic and not finihs the eniree prescitpion or

the germs return worse; thanks for reading in my opinion Anne--- In

, " Ieneke " <ienvan wrote:

>

> Sarah,

>

> I am usually honest people, but there are times when a small lie

may be

> justified. Meanwhile, you might want to keep antibiotics handy just

in

> case your children do not respond to the milder more natural

products.

>

> Don't get dogmatic in either direction, and never say never.

> What are you using?

>

> You have my deepest sympathy in this matter. It is getting scary.

>

> Ien in the Kootenays

> http://freegreenliving.com (blog)

> http://wildwholefoods.net (the ultimate supplement)

>

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I have an observation. You said your children got sick because you didn't

vaccinate them. I would say they got sick because their immune system was not

strong enough.

I believe it's very important that you have this im mind and try to reinforce

them in the future.

I know there are medical doctors who are also trained in some natural healing

and they are against vaccines. You should get in touch with them.

Perhaps you can contact the Natural Hygiene Society. They have doctors and may

help you.

INHS International Natural Hygiene Society

http://naturalhygienesociety.org/

My best,

 

Rena

 

-

saraheppert

Thursday, February 05, 2009 10:04 AM

Whooping Cough- Health Department

 

 

Hi my name is Sarah and I chose not to vax my children. Because I

choose not too, my children have come down with whooping cough. I had

my son tested (big mistake) and because it was positive the health

dept. was notified. So now I have this lady calling me and I feel

harrasing me about my children because they are not vaxed neither are

they on the antibiotics I feel like lying to this lady but I know God

doesnt want me to lie either so I tell her the truth when she asks

her 20 ?'s. I have choose to do alternatives to the antibiotics

(which only makes them not contagious) and we a quarintined to the

house. My husband is working he has to. If you dont work you dont

eat. We did start him on antibiotics because he is in public but it

hasnt been the full 5 days. So she is telling me he needs to come

home now. Well I can see where she is coming from not wanting to

spread it. But can they do anything to me for not giving my kids

antibiotics, like can they say I am neglecting my children and take

them away. I am really worried and scared this could get out of hand.

I am about ready to break and give them the antibiotics knowing it

will most likly make them worse. But make everyone else happy. My own

mom isnt talking to me because of all this it is really crazy. THese

are my kids and I am doing what I believe is best for them. Let me

know if you have any input please. THanks.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Ien, what Amazon herb or other remedy would you take for whooping cough?

 

I googled whooping cough and the first thing that came up was a list of links,

one of which was " alternative medicine " . Following that path might yield some

good information.

 

Linda

 

 

 

 

________________________________

Ieneke <ienvan

 

Friday, February 6, 2009 4:49:36 PM

Re: Whooping Cough- Health Department

 

 

Sarah,

 

I am usually honest people, but there are times when a small lie may be

justified. Meanwhile, you might want to keep antibiotics handy just in

case your children do not respond to the milder more natural products.

 

Don't get dogmatic in either direction, and never say never.

What are you using?

 

You have my deepest sympathy in this matter. It is getting scary.

 

Ien in the Kootenays

http://freegreenliv ing.com (blog)

http://wildwholefoo ds.net (the ultimate supplement)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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, Linda Bumpas

<lindabumpas wrote:

>

> Ien, what Amazon herb or other remedy would you take for whooping

cough?

>

> I googled whooping cough and the first thing that came up was a

list of links, one of which was " alternative medicine " . Following

that path might yield some good information.

 

 

Hi Linda,

 

If you happen to have Recovazon from Amazon in the house, try that.

It is a nice all-over anti-inflammatory, and soothing too.

 

But my go-to in this case would be Doc Ian Shillington's " Huff and

Puff " formula:

equal parts of Mullein to soothe the lungs and Lobelia as an anti-

spasmodic.

Http://www.OrganicSolutionsStore.com

 

I have not tried this myself, it just sounds good.

 

And whenever the lungs are troubled, remember to look after the large

intestine. Come to think of it, Una de Gato is a great herb for both

lungs AND large intestine.

 

Ien in the Kootenays

http://freegreenliving.com

http://wildwholefoods.net

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There is a that is called vaccination liberation.....let me know if

you cannot find it....If you can't email me at KTWELLNESSALT and I will

send you the direct link since I belong to the group as well and do not

vaccinate due to kids health issues and allergies,etc.

K.

www.APath2Wellness.info

 

--- On Sat, 2/7/09, bk <doglover894 wrote:

 

 

bk <doglover894

Re: Re: Whooping Cough- Health Department

 

Saturday, February 7, 2009, 4:32 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm cautious with medicine, but you need the antibiotics for them.  I believe in

a healthy diet and dont go along with doctors unless I read about something, but

certain sicknesses need antibiotics. 

 

--- On Fri, 2/6/09, hbaddley <gothicpoesy@ > wrote:

 

hbaddley <gothicpoesy@ >

Re: Whooping Cough- Health Department

 

Friday, February 6, 2009, 4:22 PM

 

Hi Sarah,

I truly empathize with your situation. I also beleive that

vaccinations do pose a risk, and can sometimes in certain

individuals do more harm than good.

When I was 8 or 9 years old, my brother was vaccinated for

Diptheria/Tetanus. The doctors already suspected him of being

allergic to medications because my mom is highly allergic to most

everything. So they gave him a half dose of the vaccine. It nearly

killed him. I will never forget walking into his room and finding

him cold and stiff in his crib. It was a miracle from God that he

survived. So, I fully understand your decision not to vaccinate.

As for your predicament with the Whooping Cough, antibiotics may or

may not completely rid your children and husband of the infection.

I do not know if your children may or may not be taken from you.

That would depend entirely on your state's laws. But I would

heartily recommend that you give Colloidal Silver a try. I was just

on another thread discussing Utopia Silver's Advanced Colloidal

Silver. It is truly wonderful. It is safe, natural and effective.

I used it to cure myself of Lyme disease, which is extremely

difficult to get rid of and antibiotics did not work for me. Then

the medical establishment cut me off and would give me nothing. I

was still in pain and running a 100+ degree temp. Silver was the

only thing that did work.

My step-daughters have taken silver from time to time. I believe it

would be quite efficient in returning your children and husband to

full health. Then the whole situation would resolve itself. After

a week or two taking the silver, their tests should come back

negative for the pathogen.

My Lyme tests did, and the doctors were astounded that I was able to

do it!

And for future outbreaks of any disease, you might want to keep some

silver on hand, just in case.

Good Luck! -H.

 

, " saraheppert "

<saraheppert@ ...> wrote:

>

> Hi my name is Sarah and I chose not to vax my children. Because I

> choose not too, my children have come down with whooping cough. I

had

> my son tested (big mistake) and because it was positive the health

> dept. was notified. So now I have this lady calling me and I feel

> harrasing me about my children because they are not vaxed neither

are

> they on the antibiotics I feel like lying to this lady but I know

God

> doesnt want me to lie either so I tell her the truth when she asks

> her 20 ?'s. I have choose to do alternatives to the antibiotics

> (which only makes them not contagious) and we a quarintined to the

> house. My husband is working he has to. If you dont work you dont

> eat. We did start him on antibiotics because he is in public but

it

> hasnt been the full 5 days. So she is telling me he needs to come

> home now. Well I can see where she is coming from not wanting to

> spread it. But can they do anything to me for not giving my kids

> antibiotics, like can they say I am neglecting my children and

take

> them away. I am really worried and scared this could get out of

hand.

> I am about ready to break and give them the antibiotics knowing it

> will most likly make them worse. But make everyone else happy. My

own

> mom isnt talking to me because of all this it is really crazy.

THese

> are my kids and I am doing what I believe is best for them. Let me

> know if you have any input please. THanks.

>

 

 

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