Guest guest Posted February 4, 2009 Report Share Posted February 4, 2009 I would exercise extreme caution here, congestive heart failure isn't something I would be comfortable with making any suggestions. Max --- On Sat, 1/31/09, Belial the Uncouth <bobdeinlein wrote: Belial the Uncouth <bobdeinlein Seek Natural Treatment For Edema Saturday, January 31, 2009, 8:22 PM Hi everyone. I have been a member of this board for several years, but have a problem. I have a sister in law who has congestive heart failure, and now has edema with both legs swelling a lot below the knee. She has taken water pills, and juniper berry tea sometimes for water retention. Based on what I could find on the internet I recommended she take nettle herb in capsule form to alleviate the edema. I talked to her today and she says she is not improved. Anyone got any advice as to a natural treatment that might help? Blessings, Belial the Uncouth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2009 Report Share Posted February 4, 2009 1. massage both elbows at the end of the inner elbow line, press hard with a thumb, then massage it. this point is with the heart meridian, it help to cure heart disease at the same time improves kidney function, edema is related to poor kidney function. 2. try to walk on the knees on bed or carpet, protect your knees with something so wont hurt the knees, try to do this 11am - 1pm (but before lunch)and 5-7pm, these two periods relates to when the chi/qi is by the heart (lunch hour) and by the kidney. this exercise shall be taken before meal, or at least 2 hours after meal. walk for 5mins each time twice a day, when she gets more comfortable she may extend to 10 mins. 3. stop cold drinks, eat less salad, more cooked food more beef and mutton, her digestion system needs more energy, cold drinks and cold food takes away the energy so the system doesnt function properly. vegetables shall be cooked with oil and salt. 4. sleep early, she shall sleep before 11pm, wake up no earlier than 5am. give rest to all her organs. let us know how it goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2009 Report Share Posted February 4, 2009 I need to step in and agree with Max. I live with the same problem and for 20 years nothing has worked fully except what the Dr. prescribed. I have tried alternative everything and had dangerous incidents on account of this (lucky I am still alive). I have been on a certain fluid pill daily all these years and reconciled that it isn't really harmfu. The alternative can be (for this problem) and after two heart incidents, I let it go. Why it took two occurrences, I don't know - bull-headed I guess. , Max <orange_stuff99 wrote: > > I would exercise extreme caution here, congestive heart failure isn't something I would be comfortable with making any suggestions. > > Max > > > > > > > Hi everyone. I have been a member of this board for several > > years, but have a problem. I have a sister in law who has congestive > > heart failure, and now has edema with both legs swelling a lot below > > the knee. She has taken water pills, and juniper berry tea sometimes > > for water retention. Based on what I could find on the internet I > > recommended she take nettle herb in capsule form to alleviate the > > edema. I talked to her today and she says she is not improved. Anyone > > got any advice as to a natural treatment that might help? Blessings, > > Belial the Uncouth. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 cellery juice or tablets help with the kidney function Make 7 your homepage and win a trip to the Quiksilver Pro. Find out more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 Please study Dr Matthias Rath book on congestive heart problem and edema, I was developing a heart problem in April last year, but I could recover because of Dr Rath's idea. Bernard --- On Wed, 2/4/09, Max <orange_stuff99 wrote: Max <orange_stuff99 Re: Seek Natural Treatment For Edema Wednesday, February 4, 2009, 9:23 AM I would exercise extreme caution here, congestive heart failure isn't something I would be comfortable with making any suggestions. Max --- On Sat, 1/31/09, Belial the Uncouth <bobdeinlein@ > wrote: Belial the Uncouth <bobdeinlein@ > Seek Natural Treatment For Edema Saturday, January 31, 2009, 8:22 PM Hi everyone. I have been a member of this board for several years, but have a problem. I have a sister in law who has congestive heart failure, and now has edema with both legs swelling a lot below the knee. She has taken water pills, and juniper berry tea sometimes for water retention. Based on what I could find on the internet I recommended she take nettle herb in capsule form to alleviate the edema. I talked to her today and she says she is not improved. Anyone got any advice as to a natural treatment that might help? Blessings, Belial the Uncouth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2009 Report Share Posted February 6, 2009 on top of my previous msg, can give you an even easier exercise, this will help to relief to certain extend of edema. the other exercise with my last msg would be more complete cure, as these are just exercise, it will not harm or worsen her problems: feet down on a firmer carpet or wood floor, keep the heel on ground raise the sole then step down, feel the bounce back inside the sole, keep doing this while she watch tv or travelling on public transportation. this helps to improve kidney function and so would be on her legs circulations. herebelow repeat previous msg: 1. massage both elbows at the end of the inner elbow line, press hard with a thumb, then massage it. this point is with the heart meridian, it help to cure heart disease at the same time improves kidney function, edema is related to poor kidney function. 2. try to walk on the knees on bed or carpet, protect your knees with something so wont hurt the knees, try to do this 11am - 1pm (but before lunch)and 5-7pm, these two periods relates to when the chi/qi is by the heart (lunch hour) and by the kidney. this exercise shall be taken before meal, or at least 2 hours after meal. walk for 5mins each time twice a day, when she gets more comfortable she may extend to 10 mins. 3. stop cold drinks, eat less salad, more cooked food more beef and mutton, her digestion system needs more energy, cold drinks and cold food takes away the energy so the system doesnt function properly. vegetables shall be cooked with oil and salt. 4. sleep early, she shall sleep before 11pm, wake up no earlier than 5am. give rest to all her organs. let us know how it goes. --- 2009å¹´2月4æ—¥ 星期三，britebluebees <bluebirdees 寫é“﹕ 寄件人: britebluebees <bluebirdees 主題: Re: Seek Natural Treatment For Edema 收件人: 日期: 2009 2 4 星期三 ä¸‹åˆ 9:57 I need to step in and agree with Max. I live with the same problem and for 20 years nothing has worked fully except what the Dr. prescribed. I have tried alternative everything and had dangerous incidents on account of this (lucky I am still alive). I have been on a certain fluid pill daily all these years and reconciled that it isn't really harmfu. The alternative can be (for this problem) and after two heart incidents, I let it go. Why it took two occurrences, I don't know - bull-headed I guess. , Max <orange_stuff99@ ...> wrote: > > I would exercise extreme caution here, congestive heart failure isn't something I would be comfortable with making any suggestions. > > Max > > > > > > > Hi everyone. I have been a member of this board for several > > years, but have a problem. I have a sister in law who has congestive > > heart failure, and now has edema with both legs swelling a lot below > > the knee. She has taken water pills, and juniper berry tea sometimes > > for water retention. Based on what I could find on the internet I > > recommended she take nettle herb in capsule form to alleviate the > > edema. I talked to her today and she says she is not improved. Anyone > > got any advice as to a natural treatment that might help? Blessings, > > Belial the Uncouth. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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