Guest guest Posted May 24, 2008 Report Share Posted May 24, 2008 My daughter is suffering from anal fissures (accompanied with rectal bleeding) after the delivery of her baby. It is about five months when it started. She has been taking some Ayurvedic meds and had some occasional reliefs but no permanent cure. One of the issues that she needs help is the food that she can eat. She is vegan. She feels that cow's milk does not suit her, so she takes Soy milk. Her diet is mostly liquid,soy milk, spinach soup, smoothie made from berries, lentil soup, prunes, prune juice. She also takes magnesium (1000 mg) to keep the stool soft. & nbsp; She also drinks nearly 3-4 liters of water everyday. & nbsp; She is currently nursing her baby and does not want to take any harsh medication that may prevent her from nursing. & nbsp; She has been diligently doing sitz baths at least 2-3 times a day for up to 20 mins. I am looking for any helpful suggestions at this point. & nbsp; The doctors are recommending a LIS (Lateral Internal Sphincterectomy) at this point. & nbsp; We want to exhaust all options before the surgery. Regards. Tulu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2008 Report Share Posted May 24, 2008 There is a particular herb, Da Huang (Rz. et. Rx. Rhei) that is often used for constipation, it is also one of the very few herbs that I know of that actually can get into the mother's milk, so she may want to avoid that one. Other than that, I would look at herbal formulas that nourish the blood and lubricate the intestines. childbirth taxes a woman's blood/jing, but also the fact that she's not eating red meat, she may be anemic, and even if that doesn't show up in a blood test, she may still have what TCM would consider a blood deficiency. Is her tongue more pale that then men of the house? That would support the blood deficiency thought. One formula for that brand of constipation (which would also include hard stools) is called Wu Ren Tang which translates to " five seed decoction " . If you can track down a customized version, consider adding dang gui (Rx. Angelica Sinensis), which will help nourish her blood. Dang gui (aka dong quai) is also used for wounds that are slow to heal, ala her anal fissures. They may be due to large, hard poop, or that plus the underlying blood deficiency (if that indeed is the case). -al. On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 10:05 AM, tulu 489 <tulu489 wrote: > My daughter is suffering from anal fissures (accompanied with rectal > bleeding) after the delivery of her baby. It is about five months when it > started. She has been taking some Ayurvedic meds and had some occasional > reliefs but no permanent cure. One of the issues that she needs help is the > food that she can eat. She is vegan. She feels that cow's milk does not suit > her, so she takes Soy milk. > > Her diet is mostly liquid,soy milk, spinach soup, smoothie made from > berries, lentil soup, prunes, prune juice. She also takes magnesium (1000 > mg) to keep the stool soft. & nbsp; She also drinks nearly 3-4 liters of water > everyday. & nbsp; She is currently nursing her baby and does not want to take > any harsh medication that may prevent her from nursing. & nbsp; She has been > diligently doing sitz baths at least 2-3 times a day for up to 20 mins. > > I am looking for any helpful suggestions at this point. & nbsp; The doctors > are recommending a LIS (Lateral Internal Sphincterectomy) at this > point. & nbsp; We want to exhaust all options before the surgery. > > Regards. > > Tulu > -- , DAOM Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2008 Report Share Posted May 24, 2008 A bit more on what Al said. He can add clarification to let you know how much dang gui to use. Dang gui is a good blood tonic for women. It can be bought as chunks of dried root which is the way I bought mine. You can find it in many ordinary Chinese or Oriental grocery stores that are fairly well stocked. If your daughter makes soups, she can add a piece of dang gui to the soup at the beginning & when the soup is ready, the root piece will be soft enough to mash & mix into the soup. I don't mind the taste at all - find it rather pleasant, if a bit unusual. Al could let you know how big a piece to use & how often to use it. I wanted to mention too that spinach may not be a good green to use while she's nursing. Spinach is high in oxalic acid & some other oxalates. It binds calcium into an insoluble form & it exits the body via stools. Too much spinach can exacerbate constipation because of the insoluble oxalates formed. Being a vegan limits her diet some but other protein sources are available. If she can eat nuts, I'd suggest including ground nuts & seeds (almonds, pecans, peanuts - although not a nut technically - cashews, sesame, etc) for more protein. And when finely ground, their fibre shouldn't be hard on her system. Soy milk is still primarily water. Could she include some more legumes/dal in her diet? If she feels their fibre is harsh, breads or biscuits could be made with diff mixed flours (including wheat) that would also provide more calories & protein. There are many plant based gums (guar gum, carrageenan, agar, pectin, locust bean gum, etc) that form a smooth soft gel that adds some bulk but are also very gentle to the GI system. Slippery elm bark powder is also healing & soothing. All can be used as part of a diet or added to food. These are termed fermentable soluble fibres. I think adding a good flora culture (probiotic mix) will help ease her pain & reduce inflammation. They do NOT all need milk sugar to work. Many of these will use the soluble fibres listed above as a food source too. Wikipedia lists a number of them (although most are listed in dairy products but can be bought as dairy free capsules at a health food store. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Probiotic Has your daughter looked over some vegan sites that may help her with diet & nutrition? Nursing can take a lot out of a mother & it's hard to keep up milk production if her protein & calorie intake is insufficient although I sympathize with her problems. It can affect the quality of her milk she's feeding her baby. Here's 2 sites that addresses protein & calcium, both vital for her at this time. http://vegkitchen.com/tips/protein.htm http://vegkitchen.com/tips/calcium.htm And here are 2 sites for vegans about nutrition. The 1st also has lots of recipes. http://www.nutrition.for-vegans.co.uk/ http://www.vegansociety.com/food/nutrition/ She may already know a lot of this but a brush-up on nutrition may be helpful. I know this isn't strictly TCM, other than the info on dang gui, but I hope it can help her some. Judy On Saturday 24 May 2008 10:05:03 am tulu 489 wrote: > My daughter is suffering from anal fissures (accompanied with rectal > bleeding) after the delivery of her baby. It is about five months when it > started. She has been taking some Ayurvedic meds and had some occasional > reliefs but no permanent cure. One of the issues that she needs help is the > food that she can eat. She is vegan. She feels that cow's milk does not > suit her, so she takes Soy milk. > > Her diet is mostly liquid,soy milk, spinach soup, smoothie made from > berries, lentil soup, prunes, prune juice. She also takes magnesium (1000 > mg) to keep the stool soft. & nbsp; She also drinks nearly 3-4 liters of > water everyday. & nbsp; She is currently nursing her baby and does not want > to take any harsh medication that may prevent her from nursing. & nbsp; She > has been diligently doing sitz baths at least 2-3 times a day for up to 20 > mins. > > I am looking for any helpful suggestions at this point. & nbsp; The doctors > are recommending a LIS (Lateral Internal Sphincterectomy) at this > point. & nbsp; We want to exhaust all options before the surgery. > > Regards. > > Tulu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2008 Report Share Posted May 24, 2008 On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 2:14 PM, Judy Wilkins <isomorphix wrote: > If your daughter makes soups, she can add a piece of dang gui to the > soup at the beginning & when the soup is ready, the root piece will be soft > enough to mash & mix into the soup. I don't mind the taste at all - find it > rather pleasant, if a bit unusual. Al could let you know how big a piece to > use & how often to use it. Dang gui is commonly used in cooking, yes. It may be a new taste, but it is pretty good in a chicken soup. Just a slab (dried slice) or two is all you need, but your taste buds will tell you more. And while you're thinking about chicken soup, if you have an Asian grocery store around, you may be able to locate some " black chicken " (named for its black skin, not feathers) which is often used as a post-partum blood tonic. Add some dang gui and gou qi zi (aka " gou ji " berries) and you've got a great soup. You might be able to get gou qi zi much cheaper than the " gou ji " berries since the former is just a typical Chinese food product/medicinal herb, while " gou ji " is a miracle cure for everything under the sun, including sunburn. ha. I wanted to mention too that spinach may not be a good green to use while > she's nursing. Spinach is high in oxalic acid & some other oxalates. It > binds > calcium into an insoluble form & it exits the body via stools. Too much > spinach can exacerbate constipation because of the insoluble oxalates > formed. Just to further muddy up our therapeutic advices here... Spinach is considered a " slippery " food in Chinese culture which makes it good for constipation, at least according to this theory. Its also a good source of iron, which I suspect may be missing from the diet in its needed quantities. So, I guess we can go either way on the spinach thing. -- , DAOM Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2008 Report Share Posted May 25, 2008 Chinese Traditional Medicine , " Al Stone " <al wrote: > > > Dang gui is commonly used in cooking, yes. It may be a new taste, but it is > pretty good in a chicken soup. Just a slab (dried slice) or two is all you > need, but your taste buds will tell you more. And while you're thinking > about chicken soup, if you have an Asian grocery store around, you may be > able to locate some " black chicken " (named for its black skin, not feathers) > which is often used as a post-partum blood tonic. Hi. The new mother is a vegan and won't eat chicken soup, unless she is willing to be flexible. I ate a nondairy veg. diet & occ'l herring prior to getting pregnant, but I just knew I was expecting when I developed a hell of a craving for dairy products, esp. in the form of pizza. And so I went with it. If I had desired a 16 ounce steak I would have consumed that, also, regardless of how I may have wished to avoid slaughterhouse products. I don't believe in suffering (hey, Al, you claim it's optional) for the sake of decisions made under different (i.e, nonpregnancy) circumstances. (And now I will eat anything I want, anything at all, and have still not desired any meat! Amazing. All these decades.) I hope that this woman will include some animal products in her diet, for the sake of her immediate and long-term health and the health of her child. The child needs DHA (essential fatty acid), obtainable from mother's milk; this can be obtained from certain kinds of algae, if she does not want to eat salmon or herring. I don't see this as a simple matter of anal fissures/constipation. There is a bigger picture. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2008 Report Share Posted May 25, 2008 Try low carb bars, those protein bars you see. Get one with malitol as the first ingredient. It is similar to sorbital, which is used in hospitals for constipation. I think she should check with the doctor. Does she have back problems too- if so, she would have to tell the doc that. Malitol may give her cramps, too. tulu 489 <tulu489 wrote: My daughter is suffering from anal fissures (accompanied with rectal bleeding) after the delivery of her baby. It is about five months when it started. She has been taking some Ayurvedic meds and had some occasional reliefs but no permanent cure. One of the issues that she needs help is the food that she can eat. She is vegan. She feels that cow's milk does not suit her, so she takes Soy milk. Her diet is mostly liquid,soy milk, spinach soup, smoothie made from berries, lentil soup, prunes, prune juice. She also takes magnesium (1000 mg) to keep the stool soft. & nbsp; She also drinks nearly 3-4 liters of water everyday. & nbsp; She is currently nursing her baby and does not want to take any harsh medication that may prevent her from nursing. & nbsp; She has been diligently doing sitz baths at least 2-3 times a day for up to 20 mins. I am looking for any helpful suggestions at this point. & nbsp; The doctors are recommending a LIS (Lateral Internal Sphincterectomy) at this point. & nbsp; We want to exhaust all options before the surgery. Regards. Tulu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2008 Report Share Posted May 26, 2008 Tulu, I would say for the anal fissures that Chlorophyll Complex Ointment from Standard Process, applied either topically or even into the rectum could have wonderfully healing effects. (Please note that this product is the only chlorophyll product that I am aware of that is *fat* soluable, which is the way that chlorophyll occurs in nature. All of the products that I have seen at so-called health food stores is water-soluable, and basically useless for this purpose.) A case study that I am aware of involved a woman who had an internal ulcer for a few years that would not heal, and she did not want to go the surgical route. The ulcer did heal with the ointment and she is fine. You can contact me at the email address if you have trouble finding the ointment. Scott http://www.BrightVibe.com scott , tulu 489 <tulu489 wrote: > > My daughter is suffering from anal fissures (accompanied with rectal > bleeding) after the delivery of her baby. It is about five months when > it started. She has been taking some Ayurvedic meds and had some > occasional reliefs but no permanent cure. One of the issues that she > needs help is the food that she can eat. She is vegan. She feels that > cow's milk does not suit her, so she takes Soy milk. > > > Her diet is mostly liquid,soy milk, spinach soup, smoothie made > from berries, lentil soup, prunes, prune juice. She also takes > magnesium (1000 mg) to keep the stool soft. & nbsp; She also drinks nearly 3-4 > liters of water everyday. & nbsp; She is currently nursing her baby and does > not want to take any harsh medication that may prevent her from > nursing. & nbsp; She has been diligently doing sitz baths at least 2- 3 times a > day for up to 20 mins. > > > > I am looking for any helpful suggestions at this point. & nbsp; The doctors > are recommending a LIS (Lateral Internal Sphincterectomy) at this > point. & nbsp; We want to exhaust all options before the surgery. > > > > Regards. > > > > Tulu > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2008 Report Share Posted May 27, 2008 I had a similar problem having hemorrhoids and constipation for months both of which seemed to be better with chiropractic care (when the lower spine is misaligned it can lead to constipation and hemorrhoids.) My only advice for dieting is lots of fiber and fruits (which retain a lot of water so shouldn't make digestion harder) I wound up with bad diarrhea and rectal bleeding at 8 months while still nursing and was given a suppository topical anti-inflammatory. (2x a day for 4 days) And after that I felt much, much better. I just looked up a few homeopathic cures for rectal bleeding and constipation and they can be found here: http://74.95.82.237:591/boericke/FMPro I hope this helps you. Sincerely, Bonnie PS: Feel free to e-mail me with any other questions or research you come across. I'm not a nosy person but I am interested out of concern with your daughters situation so feel free to keep me informed as well. , tulu 489 <tulu489 wrote: > > My daughter is suffering from anal fissures (accompanied with rectal > bleeding) after the delivery of her baby. It is about five months when > it started. She has been taking some Ayurvedic meds and had some > occasional reliefs but no permanent cure. One of the issues that she > needs help is the food that she can eat. She is vegan. She feels that > cow's milk does not suit her, so she takes Soy milk. > > > Her diet is mostly liquid,soy milk, spinach soup, smoothie made > from berries, lentil soup, prunes, prune juice. She also takes > magnesium (1000 mg) to keep the stool soft. & nbsp; She also drinks nearly 3-4 > liters of water everyday. & nbsp; She is currently nursing her baby and does > not want to take any harsh medication that may prevent her from > nursing. & nbsp; She has been diligently doing sitz baths at least 2-3 times a > day for up to 20 mins. > > > > I am looking for any helpful suggestions at this point. & nbsp; The doctors > are recommending a LIS (Lateral Internal Sphincterectomy) at this > point. & nbsp; We want to exhaust all options before the surgery. > > > > Regards. > > > > Tulu > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2008 Report Share Posted May 27, 2008 give her homoeo medicine, Collinsonia - 200c 3 to 4 drops daily during bed time for a month and keep giving her laxative foods. If need be she can continue the medicine. Dr. Subrata Das : tulu489: Sat, 24 May 2008 10:06:47 -0700 Post delivery constipation and anal fissures My daughter is suffering from anal fissures (accompanied with rectalbleeding) after the delivery of her baby. It is about five months whenit started. She has been taking some Ayurvedic meds and had someoccasional reliefs but no permanent cure. One of the issues that sheneeds help is the food that she can eat. She is vegan. She feels thatcow's milk does not suit her, so she takes Soy milk.Her diet is mostly liquid,soy milk, spinach soup, smoothie madefrom berries, lentil soup, prunes, prune juice. She also takesmagnesium (1000 mg) to keep the stool soft. & nbsp; She also drinks nearly 3-4liters of water everyday. & nbsp; She is currently nursing her baby and doesnot want to take any harsh medication that may prevent her fromnursing. & nbsp; She has been diligently doing sitz baths at least 2-3 times aday for up to 20 mins.I am looking for any helpful suggestions at this point. & nbsp; The doctorsare recommending a LIS (Lateral Internal Sphincterectomy) at thispoint. & nbsp; We want to exhaust all options before the surgery.Regards.Tulu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2008 Report Share Posted May 28, 2008 Please consider Sangre de Drago, topically. I found this in my extensive file on this herb: Anal Fissures A few weeks ago a massage therapist friend of mine asked me for a bottle of Sangre de Drago for one of her clients. A few weeks later she told me that her client, a lovely woman in her earlier 60s, completely eliminated anal fissures by topical use of the Sangre de Drago. Eve R, Olympic Peninsula, WA Sangre de Drago may well be the most concentrated wound healer in the world. And no side effects except good ones. It is like having a first aid kit in a one ounce bottle. Can be found at: http://wildhealing.net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2008 Report Share Posted May 29, 2008 i would suggest she uses slippery elm-either in tea or as tablet-if she has nort tried it as a tea before---tell her to buy a small amount to make into a tea and buy a pack of tabs-----the tea is slimmy and used with honey and or cinnamon and honey or sugar to sweeten-the slimmy texture takes some getting use to but will help at least line the gut-she will need about 6 cups per day- taken at even intervalls to ensure the gut is protected--- it is rich in calcium as well. pressed block of figs will help to keep the stool soft-cut a slice off each day, also rosehip tea -to aid in healling for vit c------the other man Scott suggested an ointment which sounds good, -perhaps you could use a buck wheat sprout anal douche but i would look into that more first-- scarless healing ointment on the exterior of the anus would help too, she'll only need to put a smear on morning and night and after using the loo if she wipes it off----the ointment contains calangella, hypericum and compfrey-all natural healing herbs---there are a couple on the market-i've used a couple and found them much the same -rosa's is a good one----ulcers-there are 2 kinds that i am aware of-----one is caused by a certain bacteria.... she may need to see a homeopath to get something that will kill that bacteria--------depends on the type-otherwise if she is strict with the slippery elm it will get rid of one type of ulcer. it will take 16 weeks but she can't miss one day as the acid will eat back into the ulcer opening it up again-- she may have have to see a doc and find out which sort of ulcer it is-paww paw ointment on the exterior is also helpfull--i used this on my nipples when breast feeding ot lanolin which many women used-i was worried as sheep get dipped into poisons and was unsure if it was in the lanolin.--just a tip. She must look into her diet---most vegetarians have absolutely no idea of how to balance a diet---- they think if they eat plenty of fruit and vegs they'll be right----- they must understand how foods work with each other and know how many proteins are in the protein foods as meat has so many----say 9 proteins (JUST GUESSING ) and some lentels have 4 or 5 and other beans may have another 3 or 4 so a mix of certain proteins can only give you the right balance as ech protein has a certain role to play-------- some foods s with iron in it can not be absorbed unless you have vit c as well as it needs vit c to help it to be absorbed-etc every one should learn about their diet and look at suppliments too--some suppliments also can't be absorbed readily-it takes alot of reading and years to learn but if she wants to bring a child up as a vegetarian she needs to know heaps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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