Better late than never, CBS News' 60 Minutes: Bush misused dubious intelligence

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Better late than never, CBS News' 60 Minutes: Bush misused

dubious intelligence

Tue, 25 Apr 2006 13:04:04 -0400

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Blogged by David Edwards on 4/24/2006 @ 11:31am PT...

 

VIDEO - 60 Minutes Exposes Bush's Pre-War WMD Lies

 

Guest blogged by David Edwards of Veredictum.com --

 

 

 

 

Better late than never, CBS News...

 

Guest blogged by David Edwards of Veredictum.com

 

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Better late than never, CBS News' 60 Minutes details how the Bush

inner-circle misused dubious intelligence to convince the American

people to back a preemptive war on Iraq.

 

Ed Bradley interviews Tyler Drumheller, a retired CIA official who saw

first-hand evidence of how the Bush team used selective (and

discredited) intelligence to support war plans which had already been set.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/04/21/60minutes/main1527749.shtml

 

This 13 minute video is the complete broadcast from Sunday night's

edition of 60 minutes.

 

UPDATE FROM BRAD: First, thanks David for getting this up, since I

only caught the last part of the report when it aired last night.

Secondly, please see Josh Marshall's comments on this story,

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/008284.php

as he posted additional information last night to advance the story.

His report includes new details from Drumheller last night that he'd

been interviewed by the two Senate committees supposedly investigating

the Bush Administration's pre-war use of intel (the Silberman-Robb

committee and the Pat Roberts Senate Intel committee), but in both

cases the folks working on the reports seem to have completely ignored

Drumheller's testimony. Josh's reporting would seem to suggest that

both reports should now be viewed as extremely suspect at best, a

completely unreliable white wash at worst.

 

MORE... TPMMuckraker has more,

http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/000446.php

this time showing how the White House's own WMD report conflicts with

the information from 60 Minutes and Drumheller. And how the White

House report seems to have twisted the facts to place blame on the

Intelligence Communities for their own policy " failures " in selling

the horseshit about Uraniam, Iraq and Niger to the American public in

the mislead up to war.

 

Email it to someone

 

 

 

 

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COMMENT #1 [link]

....big dan said on 4/24/2006 @ 12:45pm PT...

 

KUDO's to 60 minutes. Did you know that those Bush/National Guard documents

were never disproven? Look it up, if you don't believe me. You wouldn't know

this, if you just go by what the MSM was telling us.

 

 

COMMENT #2 [link]

....bb said on 4/24/2006 @ 12:50pm PT...

 

I'm not sure its better late than never. Its so late, one wonders if bad

people are just trying to retain some shred of credibility going forward. If bad

people are allowed to keep their credibility, or the appearance of credibility,

maybe its better never than late.

 

 

COMMENT #3 [link]

....Michael said on 4/24/2006 @ 2:31pm PT...

 

I'm glad to HEAR this...FINALLY!! You have to wonder if the news

organizations have less " courage " (aka balls) than our congress. Used to be they

were out looking for a story. Now the word needs to get out.

 

To think that the news organizations had NO PROBLEM keeping up with

Watergate, Travelgate, Troopergate, Monica and the other women in Clinton's

life. Where the hell are they now?

 

Now we have something that matters and has substance, and where the hell is

it? WAKE UP AMERICA!! Get your head out of your asses!!

 

 

COMMENT #4 [link]

....Paul in LA said on 4/24/2006 @ 2:54pm PT...

 

" This 13 minute video is the complete broadcast from Sunday night's addition

of 60 minutes. "

 

Not addition, Brad, edition.

 

" If bad people are allowed to keep their credibility, or the appearance of

credibility, maybe its better never than late. "

 

Credibility? 32% is a measure of incredibility, not credibility. Since Bush

didn't win in 2004 because MOST OF AMERICA HATES HIM AND KNOWS HE IS A LIAR, you

don't need to worry about a restored credibility risk. His disapproval rating is

PERMANENT.

 

Regrettably, that doesn't stop a coup.

 

As for Bush's TANG record, I don't think Bush went AWOL. I think he was

BUSTED for using cocaine on the flightline, after having too many wave-offs (and

getting investigated).

 

 

COMMENT #5 [link]

....Arry said on 4/24/2006 @ 4:07pm PT...

 

It isn't news. (Anybody with half a brain or more has known about this for a

long time.) It's just big media deciding it's time to say something.

 

I'm not complaining, but it's surreal and weird and very 1984ish, and just

goes to show you that our work has just begun.

 

 

COMMENT #6 [link]

....Brad said on 4/24/2006 @ 4:07pm PT...

 

Thanks Paul. While normally such typos are strictly mine, this one we can

blame on David Edwards who posted this particular item (and seems to have since

corrected it). Either way, thanks for letting us know, and I'll dock David

accordinglyin his paycheck this week for the transgression.

 

 

COMMENT #7 [link]

....Josh said on 4/24/2006 @ 4:17pm PT...

 

Hello Brad,

 

It was just yesterday that Paul in Los Angeles wrote the following drivel to

you in another thread:

 

QUOTE: Brad, you should try not to whine about the past, and about your past

efforts (with Kerry, Clark...). Direct address to Gov. Dean is also not the

right stuff. We need you to work smart, not sassy. Please do everything possible

to pass on your wealth of knowledge to these politicians, and try to abstain

from blame. END QUOTE

 

Brad, some arrogant damn fool really has the nerve to whine to you about

what you should or should not write on your OWN blog! Geeez. The nerve of some

people!

 

(By the way, I appreciate when you tell it like it is and lame blame exactly

where blame is due, in this case on members of the pro-war Dead Democratic

Party.)

 

Then today, Paul has to nit-pick your writing ( " addition " versus " edition " ).

Who the fuk cares! I knew what you meant. One gets the impression you're not

entitled to make mistakes, Brad.

 

If it were my blog, I'd tell him to go piss off and find another blog

somewhere to critique with his snooty little self.

 

 

COMMENT #8 [link]

....bb said on 4/24/2006 @ 6:04pm PT...

 

btw, a note of thanks for your great reporting generally, including David. I

was just reacting above re: better late than never

 

 

COMMENT #9 [link]

....Shannon Williford said on 4/24/2006 @ 6:29pm PT...

 

How 'bout that last line, coming from a big dog within the CIA:

 

" This is gonna be one of the great policy mistakes of all time. "

 

 

COMMENT #10 [link]

....The Old Turk said on 4/24/2006 @ 6:41pm PT...

 

Niger Documents - Forgeries - Iraq Atomic Bomb

 

Bogus Niger Documents,..

Original Source : Link

 

Bogus Niger Documents,..

Who Produced Forgeries : Link

 

Bogus Case for Iraqi War,..

Powell at UN/Bogus WMD's : Link

 

Bogus/bu$h SOTU/16 Words,..

After the Fact/White House Briefing/Elaborate Dance of Lies

 

 

COMMENT #11 [link]

....Brian said on 4/24/2006 @ 9:13pm PT...

 

Ive not seen it, but does it make any mention of the sinister Office of

Special Plans? which was set up to stovepipe raw intelligence to the white

house.

 

The Lie Factory

http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2004/01/12_405.html

 

Proof the Neocons were the evil geniuses behind the iraq invasion, and that

israel was involved.

 

'The Israeli influence was revealed most clearly by a story floated by

unnamed senior US officials in the American press, suggesting the reason that no

banned weapons had been found in Iraq was that they had been smuggled into

Syria. Intelligence sources say that the story came from the office of the

Israeli prime minister'

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,999737,00.html

 

 

COMMENT #12 [link]

....Charlene said on 4/24/2006 @ 10:03pm PT...

 

" Paul in LA " is back.

Surfs UP!

Paul likes to avoid an immediate answer by saying he doesn't have time right

now because his ride to go surfing just got here.

 

I vote we shun him this time around.

We recently wasted a lot of effort on another thread listening to Paul in LA

blow.

Why repeat it?

 

Hang 10 Moon Doggie!

 

 

COMMENT #13 [link]

....The Old Turk said on 4/24/2006 @ 10:07pm PT...

 

Patrick Buchanan states forged Niger documents

were specifically designed as an instrument to

bring us the bogus Iraqi War.

P. Buchanan : Link

 

Conclusive proof Britain and America had planned to invade Iraq 12 years

prior to war,... the in-tel was

bent and twisted to fit this preordained policy,.. come hell or high water.

USA/Britain preordained Iraqi War : Link

 

The NYT Joe Wilson Article/That started the exposure of CIA Agent Valerie

(Flame)Plame.

NYT/Wilson Article

 

 

COMMENT #14 [link]

....The Old Turk said on 4/24/2006 @ 10:26pm PT...

 

The actual forged Niger Docs,...

Copies Niger forgeries : Link

 

Political agenda to expose forgeries : Link

 

 

COMMENT #15 [link]

....Dredd said on 4/25/2006 @ 6:09am PT...

 

Shannon #9

 

Yep, that sounds like a good lyric for a few licks in a tune ... cool

 

BTW liked you lyrics posted the other day ...

 

 

COMMENT #16 [link]

....Ada said on 4/25/2006 @ 6:34am PT...

 

Yeah....now let's see the newspapers and other stations pick up on this

'not-so-new to us news', so the rest of the 'BS believers' can learn of these

truths!

 

 

COMMENT #17 [link]

....Mike J. said on 4/25/2006 @ 7:47am PT...

 

" How to Criticize the War "

by Capt. Dan Sukman currently in Iraq.

 

 

COMMENT #18 [link]

....Dredd said on 4/25/2006 @ 8:24am PT...

 

Mike J #17

 

DOH ... none of us every knew how to criticize the war? DOH

 

troll strokes for trolls stroke smiley

 

 

COMMENT #19 [link]

....Charlene said on 4/25/2006 @ 9:10am PT...

 

I see 60 watt crawled back up here too.

 

 

COMMENT #20 [link]

....Savantster said on 4/25/2006 @ 2:11pm PT...

 

What's funny is, Mike J. never did say anything about how this was all a

bunch of crap and we had no right to invade.. (didn't read his link yet either,

but I'm guessing it's crap).

 

Mike.. what do you say about the FACT that the MSM is starting to " tell the

people the truth " and is no longer helping Shrubby lie and disinform and abuse

the public?

 

Some of us have been using the DOZENS of bits of PROOF/FACT that shows it

was all lies for a long time now.. what say you that it's being laid out there

for public consumption for those too lazy/ignorant/blind/dishonest to get the

info on their own?

 

 

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