No Evidence of Pandemic - US Center for Disease Control Changes Bird Flu Policy

[Guest guest]

Bird Flu - it's a pandemic - no, it's not...

 

I wonder what happened to change the CDC's thinking.

 

Kind regards

Sepp

 

 

 

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FYI

 

The Tacoma Tribune reports that the head of the

Center for Disease Control, Dr. Julie Gerberding,

has reversed the agency's bird flu policy, which

viewed the threat from the worse-case scenario

lens.

 

Dr. Gerberdig told a Tacoma Washington audience

of 1,200 : " There is no evidence [the bird flu]

will be the next pandemic. no evidence it is

evolving in a direction that is becoming more

transmissible to people. "

 

Perhaps this turn around has something to do with

the fall-out from public disclosure about the

beleaguered Secretary of Defense, Donald

Rumsfeld's financial interest in Gilead Science,

manufacturer of Tamiflu, the flu vaccine. [see:

<http://www.ahrp.org/cms/content/view/39/27/>http://www.ahrp.org/cms/content/vie\

w/39/27/

]

 

There was never any science to back a frenzied

government policy promoting mass vaccination

against the bird flu--which was declared to be an

imminent pandemic, officials claiming that

millions of unvaccinated people would die. Does

this turn-around suggest that a major shift has

taken place at CDC?

 

Does this signal a shift from commercially driven

public health policies to policies that are

backed by scientific evidence?

 

 

 

Contact: Vera Hassner Sharav

212-595-8974

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Bird flu threat not so grave, CDC chief says

 

M. ALEXANDER OTTO; The News Tribune

Published: April 15th, 2006 01:00 AM

 

Federal health officials at a meeting Friday in

Tacoma downplayed the risk bird flu poses to

humans, contrasting earlier warnings from the

federal government.

 

" There is no evidence it will be the next

pandemic, " Dr. Julie Gerberding, head of the

Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in

Atlanta, said of avian flu. There is " no evidence

it is evolving in a direction that is becoming

more transmissible to people. "

 

Gerberding spoke at the Greater Tacoma Convention

& Trade Center at a pandemic flu conference that

drew 1,200 people from across the state, mostly

health department officials and others involved

in emergency planning.

 

Other officials from the U.S. Department of

Health and Human Services, the U.S. Department of

Agriculture and elsewhere joined her. Gov. Chris

Gregoire and several upper-level state officials

also spoke.

 

Gerberding's comments on bird flu contrast

earlier statements from the federal government

that tended to emphasize worse-case scenarios.

 

In a November letter to the public, for instance,

President Bush encouraged preparing " ourselves,

our nation, and our world to fight this

potentially devastating outbreak of infectious

disease. "

 

The concern is that the H5N1 strain of bird flu

virus will mutate into a form passed easily

between people.

 

visit to encourage state planning

 

Audience questions Friday about buying surgical

masks and stockpiling food showed the concern

Bush's comments and others have raised.

 

But Gerberding noted that, though the disease has

killed " gazillions of birds, " it has killed about

100 people out of about 200 sickened worldwide.

The victims were in intense, daily contact with

sick flocks, often sharing the same living space.

Two people have become infected from

person-to-person contact.

 

She did not say what had changed the thinking of

health care officials about bird flu, but said

that, at this point, there is " no reason to think

it ever will " pass easily between people.

 

Given those facts, bird flu, like SARS, swine flu

and other once widely publicized health threats,

might never become a significant human illness.

 

The visit by Gerberding and the other federal

officials was part of a 50-state tour to

encourage state and local planning for pandemics,

terrorism and other health emergencies.

 

Such preparedness would be especially important,

since local officials would be the first to learn

of problems, and a full federal response couldn't

be expected for a few days.

 

It was announced at the meeting that Washington

state has been granted $2 million

 

* federal money to help with planning.

 

Several officials said state and local planning

in Washington already is among the best in the

nation.

 

" We have an effective state strategy, " Gregoire

said, noting the need for constant fine-tuning

and updating. " Today we talk about pandemic flu.

In 10 years it will be something else " - the

important thing is to be ready for whatever comes.

 

easy precautions to take

 

Even if bird flu never causes significant

problems for people, Gerberding said, the focus

on it encourages emergency planning " that will

save lives whether there is a pandemic or not. "

 

She and other federal officials said H5N1 bird

flu likely will reach the United States, because

bird flu and its many strains occur naturally in

migratory birds.

 

When that happens, " it does not signal the start

of a pandemic " or a threat to the food supply,

said Richard Raymond, an undersecretary at the

U.S. Department of Agriculture.

 

Cooking meat to 160 degrees will destroy the

virus, he said - in addition to destroying

salmonella, " which sickens more people than H5N1

ever will even if there is a pandemic. "

 

Gerberding cautioned that when H5N1 is detected

in the United States, " there will be temptation

for the press to make this into something it is

not. We will need responsible journalism " to

prevent irrational panic.

 

M. Alexander Otto: 253-597-8616

 

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[Guest guest]

DARN IT!...I had done a pretty good job of preparing for " Bird

Flu " ...lots of vitamin " C " and selenium on hand, and have become

accustomed to real clean hands, two(2) hot showers a day and a gallon of

distilled water, along with a little ag. Now, I'm wondering what will

be the next pandemic... could it remain related to food supply...cows or

wheat or soy ...or water, or aerosols in the air(sure hope it's not

Lyme's, or even worse, Morgellon's) ...or solar radiation. Heck, still

gotta eat and breathe..

 

Take care, Shag...who's asking himself if this is really good news.

 

 

 

 

 

, Sepp Hasslberger

<sepp wrote:

>

>

> Bird Flu - it's a pandemic - no, it's not...

>

> I wonder what happened to change the CDC's thinking.

>

> Kind regards

> Sepp

>

>

>

> ALLIANCE FOR HUMAN RESEARCH PROTECTION (AHRP)

> Promoting Openness, Full Disclosure, and Accountability

> <http://www.ahrp.org/cms/>http://www.ahrp.org/cms/

>

> FYI

>

> The Tacoma Tribune reports that the head of the

> Center for Disease Control, Dr. Julie Gerberding,

> has reversed the agency's bird flu policy, which

> viewed the threat from the worse-case scenario

> lens.

>

> Dr. Gerberdig told a Tacoma Washington audience

> of 1,200 : " There is no evidence [the bird flu]

> will be the next pandemic. no evidence it is

> evolving in a direction that is becoming more

> transmissible to people. "

>

> Perhaps this turn around has something to do with

> the fall-out from public disclosure about the

> beleaguered Secretary of Defense, Donald

> Rumsfeld's financial interest in Gilead Science,

> manufacturer of Tamiflu, the flu vaccine. [see:

>

<http://www.ahrp.org/cms/content/view/39/27/>http://www.ahrp.org/cms/con\

tent/view/39/27/

> ]

>

> There was never any science to back a frenzied

> government policy promoting mass vaccination

> against the bird flu--which was declared to be an

> imminent pandemic, officials claiming that

> millions of unvaccinated people would die. Does

> this turn-around suggest that a major shift has

> taken place at CDC?

>

> Does this signal a shift from commercially driven

> public health policies to policies that are

> backed by scientific evidence?

>

>

>

> Contact: Vera Hassner Sharav

> 212-595-8974

> <veracareveracare

>

>

>

<http://www.thenewstribune.com/news/local/story/5663788p-5080102c.html>h\

ttp://www.thenewstribune.com/news/local/story/5663788p-5080102c.html

> Bird flu threat not so grave, CDC chief says

>

> M. ALEXANDER OTTO; The News Tribune

> Published: April 15th, 2006 01:00 AM

>

> Federal health officials at a meeting Friday in

> Tacoma downplayed the risk bird flu poses to

> humans, contrasting earlier warnings from the

> federal government.

>

> " There is no evidence it will be the next

> pandemic, " Dr. Julie Gerberding, head of the

> Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in

> Atlanta, said of avian flu. There is " no evidence

> it is evolving in a direction that is becoming

> more transmissible to people. "

>

> Gerberding spoke at the Greater Tacoma Convention

> & Trade Center at a pandemic flu conference that

> drew 1,200 people from across the state, mostly

> health department officials and others involved

> in emergency planning.

>

> Other officials from the U.S. Department of

> Health and Human Services, the U.S. Department of

> Agriculture and elsewhere joined her. Gov. Chris

> Gregoire and several upper-level state officials

> also spoke.

>

> Gerberding's comments on bird flu contrast

> earlier statements from the federal government

> that tended to emphasize worse-case scenarios.

>

> In a November letter to the public, for instance,

> President Bush encouraged preparing " ourselves,

> our nation, and our world to fight this

> potentially devastating outbreak of infectious

> disease. "

>

> The concern is that the H5N1 strain of bird flu

> virus will mutate into a form passed easily

> between people.

>

> visit to encourage state planning

>

> Audience questions Friday about buying surgical

> masks and stockpiling food showed the concern

> Bush's comments and others have raised.

>

> But Gerberding noted that, though the disease has

> killed " gazillions of birds, " it has killed about

> 100 people out of about 200 sickened worldwide.

> The victims were in intense, daily contact with

> sick flocks, often sharing the same living space.

> Two people have become infected from

> person-to-person contact.

>

> She did not say what had changed the thinking of

> health care officials about bird flu, but said

> that, at this point, there is " no reason to think

> it ever will " pass easily between people.

>

> Given those facts, bird flu, like SARS, swine flu

> and other once widely publicized health threats,

> might never become a significant human illness.

>

> The visit by Gerberding and the other federal

> officials was part of a 50-state tour to

> encourage state and local planning for pandemics,

> terrorism and other health emergencies.

>

> Such preparedness would be especially important,

> since local officials would be the first to learn

> of problems, and a full federal response couldn't

> be expected for a few days.

>

> It was announced at the meeting that Washington

> state has been granted $2 million

>

> * federal money to help with planning.

>

> Several officials said state and local planning

> in Washington already is among the best in the

> nation.

>

> " We have an effective state strategy, " Gregoire

> said, noting the need for constant fine-tuning

> and updating. " Today we talk about pandemic flu.

> In 10 years it will be something else " - the

> important thing is to be ready for whatever comes.

>

> easy precautions to take

>

> Even if bird flu never causes significant

> problems for people, Gerberding said, the focus

> on it encourages emergency planning " that will

> save lives whether there is a pandemic or not. "

>

> She and other federal officials said H5N1 bird

> flu likely will reach the United States, because

> bird flu and its many strains occur naturally in

> migratory birds.

>

> When that happens, " it does not signal the start

> of a pandemic " or a threat to the food supply,

> said Richard Raymond, an undersecretary at the

> U.S. Department of Agriculture.

>

> Cooking meat to 160 degrees will destroy the

> virus, he said - in addition to destroying

> salmonella, " which sickens more people than H5N1

> ever will even if there is a pandemic. "

>

> Gerberding cautioned that when H5N1 is detected

> in the United States, " there will be temptation

> for the press to make this into something it is

> not. We will need responsible journalism " to

> prevent irrational panic.

>

> M. Alexander Otto: 253-597-8616

>

> <alex.otto

>

>

> FAIR USE NOTICE: This may contain copyrighted (©

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> purposes, to advance understanding of human

> rights, democracy, scientific, moral, ethical,

> and social justice issues, etc. It is believed

> that this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such

> copyrighted material as provided for in Title 17

> U.S.C. section 107 of the US Copyright Law. This

> material is distributed without profit.

>

>

> --

>

>

> The individual is supreme and finds its way through intuition.

>

> Sepp Hasslberger

>

>

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>

> Critical perspective on Health: http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/sepp/

>

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>

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> La Leva's news: http://www.laleva.org/

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

A response to my question regarding the bird flu:

 

Bird Flu - it's a pandemic - no, it's not... I

wonder what happened to change the CDC's thinking.

 

from Julia Pendower in the UK.

 

forwarding for everyone else...

 

Kind regards

Sepp

 

 

 

" Julia Pendower \(VL\) " <jp

" 'Sepp Hasslberger' " <sepp,

" 'AltMedForum' "

RE: No Evidence of Pandemic - US Center

for Disease Control Changes Bird Flu Policy

Tue, 18 Apr 2006 12:02:21 +0100

 

 

Fear of damage to the economy, and precipitation

of a national and possibly global recession. It

is widely predicted the BF in birds will reach

the US anytime very soon - weeks - if it has not

arrived already.

 

Economic drivers

In each country where BF has been confirmed in

birds, the poultry industry has gone to a state

of near collapse, or has in fact collapsed. In

itself, the knock on effects to both the local

economy, and thereby the international economy

are very severe. Chicken is a major source of

protein in most of Asia, Africa, India etc - and

prices of other meat sources have increased in

some cases by as much as 100% and more. This is

having knock on effects on every economical

aspect - from reduced amounts of disposable

income in local economies (= less exports from

the US) to reduced tourism etc and populations

anger at govt. measures taken for containment and

control. It is proving to be very politically

destabilising in some countries, especially where

the population just does not understand why all

their birds are being taken from them and killed

with no or very little compensation, and in most

of these countries every family has a few

chickens.

 

Now the prevailing consideration in both the US

and the EU will be to stop similar economic

consequences in their domestic markets. Italy and

Germany have seen its poultry industry collapse

already as consumers have reacted by avoiding

chicken products and eggs.

 

If the US govt stops telling people in the US to

stockpile 6 weeks supply of food and meds for

general preparedness planning (and some states

are suggesting 3 months worth) then it is more

likely that there is something afoot within the

virus that means that they perceive a lower risk

from it than previously. 'Watch what they do,

not what they say' is a good philosophy here. As

yet, this advice in US state pandemic

preparedness plans is still very mush there, as

is the advice on the HHS website. There is also

increasing govt led activity with infrastructure

organisations such as water supply, electricity,

food movement and the like in both the EU and the

US. This does not suggest that they perceive a

lower risk. Increased monies have also been made

available for IV bags, drips etc used by

hospitals so that supplies can be built up.

 

Politics and vaccines

Also politics is a key issue - it is now become

more publicly known that it would take 6 years to

produce enough vaccine to cover 20% of the global

population, if you assume a single 15mg dosage

(see below) - long after a pandemic virus would

have come and gone. There isn't anything anyone

can do about this if a pandemic were to erupt

within the next 3-5 years, as new technologies

have to be developed and invented using plant

based cells for manufacture - this virus is even

killing the animal/ human cell cultures, and to

quote 'you cant make cells grow any faster'.

There is US political backlash over the issue,

including why the US has no vaccine manufacturing

capacity of its own.

 

The only good news on the vaccines front is that

egg based production is completely out = no usage

of thiosermal, if it should ever become needed.

However so far, the 'test strains' are only

producing an antibody response in 54% of test

subjects, and only if they use a massive 180mg

dosage split in two, and delivered six weeks

apart. Manufacturing is also very slow and very

long. On this basis, if a workable vaccine could

be developed post a pandemic eruption, then

global annual capacity at present could produce

enough vaccine only for key workers in the

western world only in the early most lethal

stages of a pandemic.

 

Present Policy

Everything in WHO and CDC plans is now all about

buying time for vaccine manufacture to take place

- and then in theory they would 'vaccinate

everyone' as soon as they could (see UK govt

policy) - however, this is not only impossible

now, it is also impossible for quite some years

(if ever) for technical reasons outlined above,

and if this virus is going to go pandemic I very

much doubt it will be kind enough to wait until

industry has worked out how to solve the

problems.

 

Additionally containment strategies planned are a

complete joke for Africa etc as there is NO

health infrastructure to even test for the virus

in birds, let alone humans, and let alone having

any hope in hell of spotting human cases/deaths

against a background noise of mortality from

diseases like encephalitis, cholera, meningitis,

AIDS, malaria etc in order to put containment

measures in place. Other places like N Korea/

Burma are a complete black hole also, and because

compensation for backyard farmers in all these

countries is inadequate or absent, all the

populations are doing is hiding outbreaks (e.g

Cambodia) and killing birds if they get sick, or

just burying them if they all die overnight.

 

Genetics

The virus in the 1997 Hong Kong outbreak had 2,3

and 2,6 sialic acid specificity but not other

critical gene changes needed for human to human

transmission. Now the other changes thought to

be needed are 'fixed' in quite a few circulating

strains and clades, but these viri still only

have 2,3 sialic acid specificity. This means

this 2,6 change CAN happen - it has before, and

this is thought to be the major bar to a

pandemic. Whether this is all that might be

needed is another matter again.

 

 

 

In all, I very much doubt that the downplaying

now is anything more than socio-economic driven

in origin. However, if the key activities of

contingency planning for essential service

industries stops, if the US stops trying to

persuade its entire population to stockpile six

weeks of food, and if DARPA withdraws its 'no

ceiling' budget for research funds to figure out

a solution to the vaccine production problems, or

if I see some hard science and genetic sequences

(these are mostly held in a secret database by

WHO except for a few which are released by the

independent research scientists directly to

Genbank) etc I will rest easier and stop

worrying. In the meantime however, I don't see

any of these things changing - just a shift in

the public communications, so that they do not

panic the people.

 

 

Regards to all

 

Julia

 

Sepp Hasslberger [sepp]

16 April 2006 17:27

AltMedForum

No Evidence of Pandemic - US Center for

Disease Control Changes Bird Flu Policy

 

 

Bird Flu - it's a pandemic - no, it's not...

 

I wonder what happened to change the CDC's thinking.

 

Kind regards

Sepp

 

 

 

ALLIANCE FOR HUMAN RESEARCH PROTECTION (AHRP)

Promoting Openness, Full Disclosure, and Accountability

<http://www.ahrp.org/cms/>http://www.ahrp.org/cms/

 

FYI

 

The Tacoma Tribune reports that the head of the

Center for Disease Control, Dr. Julie Gerberding,

has reversed the agency's bird flu policy, which

viewed the threat from the worse-case scenario

lens.

 

Dr. Gerberdig told a Tacoma Washington audience

of 1,200 : " There is no evidence [the bird flu]

will be the next pandemic. no evidence it is

evolving in a direction that is becoming more

transmissible to people. "

 

Perhaps this turn around has something to do with

the fall-out from public disclosure about the

beleaguered Secretary of Defense, Donald

Rumsfeld's financial interest in Gilead Science,

manufacturer of Tamiflu, the flu vaccine. [see:

<http://www.ahrp.org/cms/content/view/39/27/>http://www.ahrp.org/cms/content/vie\

w/39/27/

]

 

There was never any science to back a frenzied

government policy promoting mass vaccination

against the bird flu--which was declared to be an

imminent pandemic, officials claiming that

millions of unvaccinated people would die. Does

this turn-around suggest that a major shift has

taken place at CDC?

 

Does this signal a shift from commercially driven

public health policies to policies that are

backed by scientific evidence?

 

 

 

Contact: Vera Hassner Sharav

212-595-8974

<veracareveracare

 

 

<http://www.thenewstribune.com/news/local/story/5663788p-5080102c.html>http://ww\

w.thenewstribune.com/news/local/story/5663788p-5080102c.html

Bird flu threat not so grave, CDC chief says

 

M. ALEXANDER OTTO; The News Tribune

Published: April 15th, 2006 01:00 AM

 

Federal health officials at a meeting Friday in

Tacoma downplayed the risk bird flu poses to

humans, contrasting earlier warnings from the

federal government.

 

" There is no evidence it will be the next

pandemic, " Dr. Julie Gerberding, head of the

Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in

Atlanta, said of avian flu. There is " no evidence

it is evolving in a direction that is becoming

more transmissible to people. "

 

Gerberding spoke at the Greater Tacoma Convention

& Trade Center at a pandemic flu conference that

drew 1,200 people from across the state, mostly

health department officials and others involved

in emergency planning.

 

Other officials from the U.S. Department of

Health and Human Services, the U.S. Department of

Agriculture and elsewhere joined her. Gov. Chris

Gregoire and several upper-level state officials

also spoke.

 

Gerberding's comments on bird flu contrast

earlier statements from the federal government

that tended to emphasize worse-case scenarios.

 

In a November letter to the public, for instance,

President Bush encouraged preparing " ourselves,

our nation, and our world to fight this

potentially devastating outbreak of infectious

disease. "

 

The concern is that the H5N1 strain of bird flu

virus will mutate into a form passed easily

between people.

 

visit to encourage state planning

 

Audience questions Friday about buying surgical

masks and stockpiling food showed the concern

Bush's comments and others have raised.

 

But Gerberding noted that, though the disease has

killed " gazillions of birds, " it has killed about

100 people out of about 200 sickened worldwide.

The victims were in intense, daily contact with

sick flocks, often sharing the same living space.

Two people have become infected from

person-to-person contact.

 

She did not say what had changed the thinking of

health care officials about bird flu, but said

that, at this point, there is " no reason to think

it ever will " pass easily between people.

 

Given those facts, bird flu, like SARS, swine flu

and other once widely publicized health threats,

might never become a significant human illness.

 

The visit by Gerberding and the other federal

officials was part of a 50-state tour to

encourage state and local planning for pandemics,

terrorism and other health emergencies.

 

Such preparedness would be especially important,

since local officials would be the first to learn

of problems, and a full federal response couldn't

be expected for a few days.

 

It was announced at the meeting that Washington

state has been granted $2 million

 

* federal money to help with planning.

 

Several officials said state and local planning

in Washington already is among the best in the

nation.

 

" We have an effective state strategy, " Gregoire

said, noting the need for constant fine-tuning

and updating. " Today we talk about pandemic flu.

In 10 years it will be something else " - the

important thing is to be ready for whatever comes.

 

easy precautions to take

 

Even if bird flu never causes significant

problems for people, Gerberding said, the focus

on it encourages emergency planning " that will

save lives whether there is a pandemic or not. "

 

She and other federal officials said H5N1 bird

flu likely will reach the United States, because

bird flu and its many strains occur naturally in

migratory birds.

 

When that happens, " it does not signal the start

of a pandemic " or a threat to the food supply,

said Richard Raymond, an undersecretary at the

U.S. Department of Agriculture.

 

Cooking meat to 160 degrees will destroy the

virus, he said - in addition to destroying

salmonella, " which sickens more people than H5N1

ever will even if there is a pandemic. "

 

Gerberding cautioned that when H5N1 is detected

in the United States, " there will be temptation

for the press to make this into something it is

not. We will need responsible journalism " to

prevent irrational panic.

 

M. Alexander Otto: 253-597-8616

 

<alex.ottoalex.otto

 

 

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U.S.C. section 107 of the US Copyright Law. This

material is distributed without profit.

 

 

 

 

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