European medicine and research over USA?

[Guest guest]

Hello everyone,

 

Occasionally in my reading I come across things saying that some

alternative treatment/etc, while poo-poo'd in the USA allopathic

medical establishment, is taken seriously, actually used, and even

(gasp!) researched seriously in Europe. For example, I've read that St.

John's Wort and Glutamine are 2 things used in European hospitals and

by European doctors, despite USA refusal to even consider them.

 

Does anyone know if this is true -- that the European medical

establishment is less likely to behave as stupidly as the USA medical

establishment does?

 

Jent

 

" The liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of

private power to a point where it becomes stronger than their democratic State

itself. That, in its essence, is Fascism - ownership of government by an

individual, by a group or by any controlling private power. " -Franklin Delano

Roosevelt

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

It is impossible to speak of a European medical establishment because Europe is

many different countries, with many different languages, with many different

cultures, with many medical traditions...

 

You would have to look at each country separately and see what the attitude of

the MDs is in that particular country.

 

I can only speak about my own country (Belgium) and would say that 90-95% of MDs

are unwilling to consider alternative treatments too.

 

All the best,

Yannic

 

 

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Jent Lynne

alternative_medicine_forum

Thursday, March 16, 2006 12:47 AM

European medicine and research over USA?

 

 

Hello everyone,

 

Occasionally in my reading I come across things saying that some

alternative treatment/etc, while poo-poo'd in the USA allopathic

medical establishment, is taken seriously, actually used, and even

(gasp!) researched seriously in Europe. For example, I've read that St.

John's Wort and Glutamine are 2 things used in European hospitals and

by European doctors, despite USA refusal to even consider them.

 

Does anyone know if this is true -- that the European medical

establishment is less likely to behave as stupidly as the USA medical

establishment does?

 

Jent

 

" The liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of

private power to a point where it becomes stronger than their democratic State

itself. That, in its essence, is Fascism - ownership of government by an

individual, by a group or by any controlling private power. " -Franklin Delano

Roosevelt

[Guest guest]

--- Hen & Yan <fa034262 wrote:

> It is impossible to speak of a European medical establishment because

> Europe is many different countries, with many different languages,

> with many different cultures, with many medical traditions...

 

Well, rather than send 26 different emails with the same text except

" [insert country name here] " ....

 

> I can only speak about my own country (Belgium) and would say that

> 90-95% of MDs are unwilling to consider alternative treatments too.

 

What kind of health care system do you have in Belgium? How does

BigPharma affect it?

 

Jent

 

" The liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of

private power to a point where it becomes stronger than their democratic State

itself. That, in its essence, is Fascism - ownership of government by an

individual, by a group or by any controlling private power. " -Franklin Delano

Roosevelt

[Guest guest]

Our health system is organized by the government and includes about everyone.

BigPharma hasn't freedom here and as a result medication is much cheaper here -

especially those that are prescribed by a MD.

 

If you want to know more, have a look here:

http://socialsecurity.fgov.be/EN/documents/belgian_social_security_2005.pdf

 

Yannic

-

Jent Lynne

Thursday, March 16, 2006 4:04 PM

Re: European medicine and research over

USA?

 

 

--- Hen & Yan <fa034262 wrote:

> It is impossible to speak of a European medical establishment because

> Europe is many different countries, with many different languages,

> with many different cultures, with many medical traditions...

 

Well, rather than send 26 different emails with the same text except

" [insert country name here] " ....

 

> I can only speak about my own country (Belgium) and would say that

> 90-95% of MDs are unwilling to consider alternative treatments too.

 

What kind of health care system do you have in Belgium? How does

BigPharma affect it?

 

Jent

 

" The liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of

private power to a point where it becomes stronger than their democratic State

itself. That, in its essence, is Fascism - ownership of government by an

individual, by a group or by any controlling private power. " -Franklin Delano

Roosevelt

[Guest guest]

Germany is known for its support for Herbal Remedies and I understand

they are available via doctors. The attitude is pro herbal.

 

The UK has the Royal London Homoeopathic Hospital which will also give

out herbal remedies. Some hospitals support alt med provided the doctors

are satisfied it will do nothing, other than help with mental problems

ie massage, talking therapies, aromatherapy. For serious use of herbal

remedies it is hard to find a hospital that is using it, other than the

RLHH. The UK is a wash out when it comes to official hospital use of

herbal med. There is some support for acupuncture, but only for pain

relief. It is impossible to get the cancer hospitals to use alt med,

especially the Royal Marsden.

 

Robin

 

The above comments are in response to Jent Lynne's email of 15/03/2006

23:47 as quoted below:

> Hello everyone,

>

> Occasionally in my reading I come across things saying that some

> alternative treatment/etc, while poo-poo'd in the USA allopathic

> medical establishment, is taken seriously, actually used, and even

> (gasp!) researched seriously in Europe. For example, I've read that St.

> John's Wort and Glutamine are 2 things used in European hospitals and

> by European doctors, despite USA refusal to even consider them.

>

> Does anyone know if this is true -- that the European medical

> establishment is less likely to behave as stupidly as the USA medical

> establishment does?

>

> Jent

>

>

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