Guest guest Posted March 8, 2006 Report Share Posted March 8, 2006 SharinSharAlike Wed, 8 Mar 2006 03:02:34 EST [AggressiveProgressives] Intimidation of Reporters. THIS IS SCARY Looks like the intimidation of reporters is escalating. Make sure you read the comments. Mine is the bottom one. Many of them are written by fellow journalists who are probably not going to stop telling the truth and will sooner or later be arrested, incarcerated and probably get some of the first choices of concentration camps. I highlighted some to check out and make it easier to read and less time consuming for you. I am trying to catch up but there is so much going on and while I've been gone, things have stepped up at a rapid pace. It's truly hard to believe these things are going on in this country. Even harder to believe that so many still do not care. Let alone wondering what those 40% are doing to us. Not only have we been endangered by the apathy of others, but we are still battling with people who agree with Bush who are gladly given our children's and our grandchildren's freedom away. Not that the apathetic aren't also giving them away. Parts of the new UNpatriot Act have no sunset clause. That means it goes on forever. Even if we got rid of Bush, there are many things that will not be able to be undone. The apathetic -- do they realize what they have done to all of us by their refusal to help or get themselves informed? Maybe they think we make these things up or that we are partisan. When you lose the 3 branches of Govt, democracy is gone. We have lost the 1st and 4th Amendments. They are building concentration camps in the United States of America. I do not understand how someone could possibly think this is just about political parties. Did they not see these things forming? See, there are three groups in America -- those who have no clue and do not want a clue, those who sort of have a clue but do not want enough of a clue to cause them to feel guilty for not being involved, and then there is just a few of us who are doing everything possible to try to get some help -- even though I'm thinking with the loss of our freedoms now, it might now be too late. Some may think we are just more involved in politics, so excuse themselves. If only they knew that most of us were never that involved in it before, but we have the instinct to respond to danger which apparently they have lost. I hate them for it. I could deal with it, but my children and grandchildren counted on me to protect their freedom. I tried, but without enough of us, we were helpless. Sad...just sad. And very very scary for the futures of my grandkids. THIS IS TERRIFYING. My note is the last one down on the page as I said. The comments are very interesting. Since we could not get enough people to help us save freedom, maybe we deserve to crash and burn. Sharin *** By DOUG THOMPSON On an unspecified day last week an employee of a federal agency that cannot be revealed delivered a document that cannot be identified to a company that cannot be named seeking information that cannot be discussed. The aforementioned federal agent left the unidentified document with an employee of the unnamed company. That employee then called the owner, who must remain anonymous, to inform him that the document that could not be identified sought information that could not be discussed. The owner who must remain anonymous instructed the employee to deliver the unidentified document to a lawyer whose name is protected by attorney-client privilege. The lawyer whose name is protected by attorney-client privilege examined the unidentified document and then reviewed the information that could not be discussed with the owner who must remain anonymous. With the approval of the owner who must remain anonymous, the lawyer whose name is protected by attorney-client privilege contacted a U.S. attorney who demanded that his identity be concealed. The U.S. attorney who demanded that his identity be concealed then claimed the owner who must remain anonymous violated a law that could not be disclosed and faced arrest for charges that could not be specified because he had referred to the document that cannot be identified in an article for a certain, but unnamed, web site. The lawyer whose name is protected by attorney-client privilege argued that his client could not be charged under the undisclosed law because he had been acting as a journalist at the time of the alleged publication and not as the owner of the company that cannot be named. He had, in fact, learned of the existence of the document that cannot be identified from a third-party, who was not named, and was not aware of its exact contents because he had not seen or read the document and, therefore, was not aware of the exact contents that cannot be discussed. The U.S. attorney who demanded his identity be concealed consulted with others who names are classified and concluded that the owner who must remain anonymous walked a fine line between legal and illegal and would not face arrest for violating a law that could not be disclosed on charges that could not be specified. So walking this fine line of justice allowed the owner who must remain anonymous to avoid confinement at an institution at an unknown location for an unspecified length of time. In exchange for his freedom, the owner who must remain anonymous agreed to write a " clarification " of what happened, following the guidelines for publication laid down by the Bush administration. Which is what you just read. Comments Let me get this straight. A federal attorney whose identity must be kept secret and concealed wanted a news story pulled, which also must be kept secret because its publication violates a legal statute that also must be kept secret. If all of the above is true, either the blow back against the current administration will be huge, in the order of impeachment or this will make McCarthyism seem like small beer and the press will most certainly be terrorized into a form of self-censorship that is practiced in countries with totalitarian regimes. Posted by A.R. Yue at March 6, 2006 09:57 PM ** Doug, please. I laughed until I cried. Then I cried some more because I realized this might be funny if it weren't true. Posted by Cindy at March 6, 2006 10:14 PM *** I'm in my 50s and I have some experience kicking the government in the knees in the interest of justice. I have more than 100 publications, some of which are quite formidable. I have edited thousands of legal documents and articles. The above is the most brilliant piece of writing I have ever seen. I am in awe! Like I said in the post below, if you need help, it will arrive. Posted by Maryland lawyer at March 6, 2006 10:25 PM *** Hey Doug, see if they can just book us all at once - I sure don't want to waste the tax payers money. Where's the sign up sheet? I just hate to see you alone in this dance. I'll bring a deck of cards. I'm sure we can get a bridge tourment going in the holding rooms. I'm assuming that they are sniffing your site so perhaps you can ask them for the a pre-filled sign up sheet. People can then select their choice of yes/no/maybe/thinking/.... Posted by larry at March 6, 2006 11:12 PM **** Land of the undereducated. Home of the maximumly sedated. Bastion of the politically correct. America. " It was the greatest show on earth.... and then it was over. " Roger Waters Congratulations to all the bapathetic sheelpe on a job well done! As long as we have the warm comforting glow of boobervision, to carry us through our darkest hours, all is not lost. Hip Hip Hoorah. As, we all fall happily into our ignorantly blissful slumbers. Nighty night America. Posted by Donald Ross Mott III at March 6, 2006 11:32 PM Doug, Thanks for the great belly jiggle! This is the funniest thing I've read in a long while. .... And scary, very, very scary. Posted by Marple at March 7, 2006 12:10 AM I'm thinking this hilarious but ultimately sad rant was written in " clarification " of a security letter your " company " received earlier. Wasn't the Patriot Act " approved " by Congress to fight terrorists, not journalists? Isn't there a a way to charge them in court for misuse of governmental powers? If all journalists who received such nonesense wrote about it as openly as you have, the public would respect and trust them much more. Start a revolution, please. Posted by Eve Leland at March 7, 2006 12:19 AM Wow, this makes me sad. Knowing you have nothing at all to do with terrorism, how could this ever be justified? It's now or never. Don't back down Doug. Some one needs to remind the Bush Admin that when we lose freedoms, the terrorists win. Posted by woody at March 7, 2006 12:28 AM can I quote you on that? Posted by stormkite at March 7, 2006 12:36 AM will you marry me? Posted by zennurse at March 7, 2006 12:52 AM " It's really all over, isn't it? " - Frannie, George A. Romero's Dawn of the Dead (1978) Posted by Chadwick H. Saxelid at March 7, 2006 01:00 AM publish this: I am xxxxxx at this flagrant xxxxxx! This type of xxxxx is appaling! Patriotic citizens should xxxxxx their Congressman at the first opportunity. Thank you for sharing this with us! Kadolz99 Posted by Steve Harrison at March 7, 2006 01:05 AM so it has come down to this, eh? as a canadian that wished he was american for the first 50 years of my life, i can only say, o canada, i'm glad to be a hoser! my father enlisted in ww2 to defeat a facist regime and defend freedom of speech. what in the name of pete has become of my proud, free southern neighbor?? Posted by canadiantrain52 at March 7, 2006 01:32 AM Is there a defense fund? Posted by m at March 7, 2006 02:05 AM hi doug only one post today , sorry if i caused anymore trouble for you yesterday , my intentions were to share some for you, that they were giving you, i aint skeered, you dont have any reason to be either the evidence is clear. these men are murdering thieves who have seized the American peoples white house and they have no intention of returning it in any salveable shape, well i will keep this short and say that my truck is warmed up and i have signs painted tear down this wall of secrecy mr bush or we will make a citizens arrest, i hope everyone will drop what they are doing and come stand with me. i have a thought i would like to share with you , and i am sure most of you probably realize this too but here it is. whats so secret about a terror investigation unless you dont want them caught think damn it, if you want to stop something you lay all the facts out on the table so some simple dumbass can tell the experts what to think Posted by gary lineberger at March 7, 2006 02:08 AM one more thought i would like to repeat .Terrorism according to websters mass organized ruthlessness: torture as defined malicious ruthlessness patriot act says you cannot help fund groups that practice this, so whats that going to do to the treasury of the usa? look people the usa will be broke in a few weeks anyway , you know worthless, like needin welfare, like screaming help ,lets stop them now so reasonable minds can save this mess bush and his psycho felons from iran contra nitemare have created. Posted by gary at March 7, 2006 02:14 AM Doug; Is it too soon to start counting the days until an unidentifiable leader of an undisclosed country has served out the remainder of his or her term of an unidentifiable office and an undisclosed country might finally be able to assess what needs to be done to clean up an unimaginable mess that may or may not have been created by unknown individuals? Posted by Bob at March 7, 2006 02:38 AM Does anyone have the number for the A.C.L.U.? Sic em. Posted by dave at March 7, 2006 02:47 AM Well done, Doug. The sooner America wakes up and smells the furnace the better. Posted by Keith Parisot at March 7, 2006 03:39 AM Could we find out more through the freedom of information act? Posted by Ken at March 7, 2006 05:29 AM Brilliant. Hey Dick Cheney. Go F & ck yourself. Posted by Keyser Soze at March 7, 2006 07:35 AM A piece that revisits Walt Kelly and Pogo...without picture-panels that could not be printed as part of this story for reasons that cannot, obviously, be disclosed. We have indeed met the enemy. Posted by John at March 7, 2006 08:10 AM Doug, Your article is brilliant. My prayers are with you and yours. Posted by unnamed citizen at March 7, 2006 08:12 AM As always, well done Doug. I think you have illustrated our current situation, with the present administration BRILLIANTLY. Terrifying ain't it?? Posted by Granny at March 7, 2006 08:16 AM Damn. This type of politcally motivated crap (read as blackmail) is stunning. I'm wondering, even if the lying, cheating, law breaking, foresworn, SOB and his puppetmaster were both impeached today, I'm not sure that this mind boggling level of damage could be totally undone. SO! Let's all go down to the drugstore, and flash gestapo issued photo I.D of an approved format so that we can buy some over the counter allergy medicatation, shall we? Posted by anon. at March 7, 2006 08:22 AM Please tell that " employee of a federal agency that cannot be revealed " that I agree completely with you and if that is a crime, tell him or her also that I may be found every Saturday at the corner of Third and Market Streets between noon and 1:00 PM in Lewisburg, PA standing vigil in opposition to the Bush administration and its various wars. Dale Hurliman Posted by Dale Hurliman at March 7, 2006 08:23 AM Dear Owner of the undisclosed website required by law to remain anonymous under penalties as yet undisclosed and protected under the non-+provisions of the act which heretofore must also remain secret. B R I L L I A N T !! I have now become more convinced than ever that unamed individuals who have received no official guidance to not officially scan or look into the undisclosed website and the non-existant writings of individuals therein which cannot be protected under the first amendment of the constitution, the oft refferred to as " just a GD piece of paper " trashed under secret executive order in the dark of night at a meeting in an undisclosed location that never officially happened. ...could now face anything from harrassment to prosecution as determined by un-named individuals at locations that cannot be identified under new Justice department and NSA guidelines. (Sharin explains -- the " just a G-d damned piece of paper " is what Mr. Bush recently called the Constitution) Translation: Someone's bringing the cards, who wants to bring the sandwiches and the soft drinks. Possibly, members of the undisclosed website, now under scrutiniy from un-named individuals scanning from undisclosed locations could get the first choice of rooms at the new camps currently under construction at other undisclosed locations by unnamed companies who were let no-bid contracts for these non-existant facilities at undiscloed bid. (this is referring the concentration camps being built currently by Cheney's Kellogg Brown and Root) Yippie!! Posted by ANONYMOUS 101 at March 7, 2006 08:28 AM And, now they've all retired to " spend more time with their family. " ;o} Posted by Tennessean at March 7, 2006 08:44 AM Indeed, brilliant writing. If fiction, it is the best of the best. If factual, then we should all be in fear, nay, but rather enraged, at the injustice in our country. (sharin note -- I have no doubt that it is absolutely factual and they are intimidating Doug) The last line of Frances Scott Key's " The Star-Spangled Banner, " our national anthem, is: " O'er the land of the FREE and the home of the brave! " Perhaps, " we the people, " have forgotten that, what " free " means. (sharin says - perhaps we have also forgotten what brave is as many people bow to this and accept it without even a fight) Never were we perfect, as a nation, but " free " is much more of what we once were, than what we now are, and are fast becoming. Posted by Robert Meek at March 7, 2006 08:47 AM Doug, hand my name over. I would love to meet one of these dawn of the dead types. And I love you Keyser Soze...... " Hey Dick...f & ck yourself " . Deserves repeating. No empire stands forever and ours is crumpling. You are a brave man Doug. Tail gunner Joe terrorized people for years and ruin lives before people realized what an ass he was... Posted by Dave at March 7, 2006 08:47 AM Doug, If your site is finally shut out, we need to have a team -in place- of your supporters organized to help spread the word. It might be advantageous for you to preannounce and post your messages on other sites supporting the constitution - ahead of time. They might try, but I doubt they can or would put us all in jail. Of course, I might be wrong. But it is worth a try.. (Sharin agrees with this post...we journalists and even the readers or people who make comments should start finding alternative ways of contacting each other. Sites like this one are going to be closing down. Doug used to work in the White House. He has a lot of inside contacts. It has to be driving Rove crazy that he gets so much information from the inside...just that this administration is worried about Doug says a lot) Posted by AJ at March 7, 2006 09:00 AM Makes you wonder who they are investigating. Remember, Rule By Fear. Posted by Peter Chewning at March 7, 2006 09:00 AM Doug, Just a note to let you know we'll be sharing this tonight (Tues., 7 March) on " Head-On With Bob Kincaid. " Whatever the status of the piece is, it describes(clearly?) the onion-like layers of secrecy and cyncism that conceal the tumor at the heart of our government. Well done! Posted by Bob Kincaid at March 7, 2006 09:25 AM Doug, you do indeed know how to turn a phrase. You are a beacon of light in a dark tunnel of madness. Thank you. Posted by Ken at March 7, 2006 09:29 AM Print it on vellum with the title 'Epitaph?' and include A.R. Yue's translation on the bottom. Charge $10 a pop. I'll take 10. J Posted by John at March 7, 2006 09:31 AM And who thought only the Brits had serious, tongue in cheek, humor. This is just like Harry Potter [® etc.] with " He who must not be named. " Doug could have also done a redacted version with the whole page black. Now, who from the Ministry of Truth (1984) will be modifying the electrons for Monday 6 March 2006 to say " The government delivered a lovely bouquet of flowers " instead of something from the manure lagoon. Posted by Nigel at March 7, 2006 09:33 AM Excellent! This piece should be studied in literature classes side-by-side with the works of Jonathan Swift. The Bush Administration has great potential for immortality in the literary world of satire. Future generations will think it all just as far-fetched as so many today consider " Gulliver's Travels " and " A Modest Proposal " . But even for them it will continue to have great entertainment value. Posted by Joe Buff at March 7, 2006 09:33 AM Beautiful. Simply beautiful. Posted by Fred at March 7, 2006 09:33 AM Sooooooo ... these things of which you allude to ... they would be properly catagorized as known knowns, known unknowns, or unknown unknowns? " Reports that say that something hasn't happened are always interesting to me, because as we know, there are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns - the ones we don't know we don't know " -- guess who Posted by Bill at March 7, 2006 09:40 AM Summary: So for people who haven't read your site before, you were issued a FBI nation security letter requiring you to divulge a bunch of information and you reported that you were given the letter which violates some unconstitutional law this gestapo passed. And now they threatened to arrest you for doing so which apparently sufficiently scared you into writing that prose above. When are we gonna kick out the pack of terrorists running this country? Moreover, when are we gonna kick out all the senators and representatives whose yellow spines have allowed this B.S. to take place? Posted by Bob at March 7, 2006 09:58 AM This reminds me of the clever librarian who reported to her board every week that " There have been no requests for information from the government this week. " Until one week when she did not include the statement in her report. Of course the law prevents her from reporting on any requests. Posted by Bert Shaw at March 7, 2006 10:01 AM So, is this like " Double Secret Probation " ? The Bush Administration has only itself to blame for giving Doug the fodder to make it look mean and ridiculous. Kind of like Col Klink of " Hogan's Heroes " . Posted by Firestarter at March 7, 2006 10:06 AM Thanks, Doug. Give 'em hell. Posted by Bill at March 7, 2006 10:14 AM lol Thought it was Judy Miller for NYT. (sharin says LOL) Posted by renate at March 7, 2006 10:22 AM In December 2005, CNN reported that Library Connection of CT was the plaintiff in an ACLU case against Ashcroft et al on the Constitutionality of the NSL. Did the government shut down CNN for revealing this national security secret? It's time for all true patriots to step forward in the name of true national security and reveal the receipt of these letters. If they've sent out 1,000 letters, let's see them try to prosecute 1,000 cases. Let's see if the public will stand for such Gestapo-like tactics. It's time for us all to call the Bush administration's bluff, before it's too late. Posted by wanderindiana at March 7, 2006 10:24 AM COUNT ME IN! Posted by windy at March 7, 2006 10:27 AM Doug - Hopefully, your style of exposing the moronic NSL gestapo will become the new battle cry of latter day Paul Reveres. Everyone who receives such an assinine letter should copy your style and then publicize it. Posted by T.P. Reitzel at March 7, 2006 10:34 AM Hey it sure would be nice if those keystone cops at the unidentified federal agency would spend more time figuring out who it is out there who attacked the US with weapons-grade anthrax and less time worrying about the political viewpoints of someone who happens to disagree with the idiotic ignorant despotic Bush. (sharin notes for those out there who do not realize it because you rely on tv...that anthrax was from a government lab. If the did not catch who sent it, it is because they don't want to catch them -- or they are the ones that told them to do it) Posted by Bob Johnson at March 7, 2006 10:43 AM I have never posted a comment on your site before but I have been a faithful daily reader for a very long time. This particular piece is brilliant and so very frightening. I am the mother of a marine deploying on a second tour in Iraq and I have lived in abject terror for seven months and will have the same experience for the next seven months. Not a day passes that this administration doesn't knock the collective wind out of this country. Keep up the good fight. If they ask, by all means give them my name! Posted by Elizabeth Langlais at March 7, 2006 10:51 AM COUNT ME IN TOO: AS I say, I will be very interested to see if somehow I hit the jackpot when I travel to the USA in the next weeks to see how many questions, dirty looks, searches etc I am subject too. I know that one is probably the luck of the draw but since I will be flying alot we shall see. I will report back on my return...unless of course I am not allowed to return but given a suite of cells at the newest facility that isn't being built and doesn't exist....or perhaps they take away all sharp objects like pens and pencils and laptops, heretofore declared WMD as they have the real power to end this farce. Posted by ANONYMOUS - but still TRUTH 101 at March 7, 2006 11:12 AM What is remembered, lives. I remember. Just guessing, but the way email and the Internet works, I imagine a whole lot of people will. Posted by Meredith at March 7, 2006 11:23 AM With undisclosed numbers of persons being put on the no-fly list, maybe it is time to buy stock in Greyhound. . . hummmm??? Thanks Doug, we are all with you. Posted by ginnyk at March 7, 2006 11:23 AM (redacted (b)(6)) found (redacted (b)(6)) moving, touching, and (redacted (b)(7)©). I agree with (redacted (b)(6)) that (redacted (b)(6)) can go (redacted (b)(7)©) and the (redacted (b)(6)) they rode in on, heh. Don't let (redacted(b)(6)) (redacted (b)(7)©) you, (redacted (b)(6)). Fight the good (redacted (b)(7)©)! -(redacted (b)(6)) Posted by Nemo at March 7, 2006 11:52 AM Perhaps you missed it, but in a secret hearing, our president was impeached, tried, and removed from office. He was then pardoned by the acting president, and reinstated by congress. The Republicans felt he was the only one capable of running a war on terror and the Democrats figured he offers them the best opportunity to regain control of the government. This conversation did not take place. John Jay Posted by jeffers at March 7, 2006 12:09 PM The Ministry of News applauds your report and wholeheartly agrees that Peace is moving closer with our Victory over our opponents. We sincerely hope that our news contributes to understanding your delightful interaction with the minions of our government, hwo know what is right and good for you. Have a nice day. Posted by Eric Blair at March 7, 2006 12:23 PM Hi Doug, As one who has experienced a home visit by the feds I just wanted to thank you for giving us all such a brilliant heads up. Having experienced said (unnamed) contact I have found the most difficult part is when you have to call all of your friends, family, business contacts, etc. to inform them that they too may soon be sharing in such (unnamed)attention: The love that cannot be spoken by name. For those of you who have not had this enlightening experience, it is rather like having to call everyone you have slept with to tell them that you have exposed them to a sexually transmitted disease, and a viral one at that, for it is possible that it might " revisit " you throughout your lifetime. You can't take a shot of penicillin and make the federal government go away. Thanks for letting us know, to quote Laurie Anderson, that " we are all going down together. " I salute you " Oh Captain! My Captain! " (From " Leaves of Grass " by Walt Whitman) When all is said and done, from our homes or from our graves, we will wear this experience as a badge of honor. Most Sincerely, A longterm (30+ years) user of Actifed. Posted by Sandra at March 7, 2006 12:34 PM Dear Doug, Laughing and crying; that's where you're leaving us. I just hope you're not the canary for us coal miners. Posted by Gerald Sutliff at March 7, 2006 12:35 PM I wonder how long it will be before they start coming after folks like myself, who are political cartoonists? Another question: Does that Homeland Security Department letter come with a nifty frame? or is the Frame the one you get when they toss you in the slammer for nothing? Oh wait is that a national secret that I just revealed? oh darn. Posted by ed at March 7, 2006 12:57 PM Just a comment from an unknown reader at an unknown location: It is rumored (or not) that I may (or may not) have read the unknown story on the unknown web-site at an unknown date and time. Fortunately for me (or not) I have an unknown medical condition (or not)diagnosed by an unknown doctor at an unknown time which causes me to unknowingly forget what I thought I unknowingly may or may not have read. Fortunately (or not) this condition may (or may not) be called " Karl Rovitist " and that unknowingly doing anything (or not) has already been declared (or not)as a legal defense for anything I may (or may not) have done. So see Doug don't worry, be happy, or not. If you need clarification (or not) you can let me know (or not)and I'll get back with you (or not).----Easy Posted by Unknown B at March 7, 2006 01:10 PM McCarthy was right about everything and the Venona transcripts, among other pieces of intelligence released long afterwards, prove such. The Commies are still all around the circles of power, except now that they have a tighter grip on the levers of power, they have elected to go on the offensive everywhere, and are neo-cons. Posted by empty13 at March 7, 2006 01:31 PM Well said Doug. As an outsider,(non-American)I must say I am appalled at the happenings in your once proud land. Not saying that we are not sliding into the same type of abyss, but the veracity of your goon sqaud and its captain redefines the word 'uncalculating'.Kudos to you for your stance and I echo the replies of many when I say I stand with you and support you in your fight against this evil enemy within. Posted by Bob at March 7, 2006 01:34 PM Doug, Excellent success! We should all adopt what one of the people that commented to you said and make bumper stickers with that on it. below. The Constitution is NOT a piece of paper, it is America, and it is what we Americans must hold in the highest regard, above any form of Government, with Pride and Determination, till death do we part. Bob USMC-Defenders of Americas Freedoms Posted by Jarhead at March 7, 2006 02:05 PM I feel much the same as Porter Gross. It is my aim and it is my hope that we will witness a grand jury investigation with grand jurors being tortured until they return a true bill of indictment on everyone we tell them to indict. I believe the safety of this nation and the people of this country deserve nothing less. Posted by Bill Fairchild at March 7, 2006 02:30 PM The 40% that are giving Bush a good rating are the sheeple that get their news from Fox and other corporate owned media and who have been brainwashed into thinking that Bush is right and is a good president (which his not). My sister is like that. She agrees with Bush trying to prosecute reporters who are writing the truth that have not been bought out by corporate Amerika. She and her husband who is an engineer own several homes. They have not been affected by the loss of jobs in this country and that is why I believe they still support Bush. A lot of people in this country have a very selfish attitude, if it does not affect their lives they don’t care about it. Every night I pray that someday they will the truth before it’s too late. Never stop fitting Dough. You help keep my faith that there are still reporters out there who have not sold out. Posted by Ghon at March 7, 2006 02:45 PM Makes perfectly good sense to me. After all I am the puppet master. Karl (Marx) Rove (writing from an undisclosed location) Posted by John at March 7, 2006 03:00 PM If this is what America has come to, and it is under the Bush administration, count me in as a contributer to the defense fund. Posted by Dianna at March 7, 2006 03:01 PM After reading your post for the second time, I am not laughing. This is no joke. Doug, when you said in a post a month or so ago that you were shutting down The Rant, I feared that they had gotten to you. I'm glad that you are back. But I am fearful that one day you will disappear into your beautiful Virginia mountains. How can this have come to pass? Posted by unknown person at March 7, 2006 03:02 PM " Our liberty depends on the freedom of the press, and that cannot be limited without being lost. " Thomas Jefferson and " Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. " Motto of Thomas Jefferson Posted by Don Rogers at March 7, 2006 03:07 PM And the green grass grows all around, all around...And the grass grows all around. Posted by Unknown at March 7, 2006 03:13 PM I wonder when they're coming after the rest of us. After all, if we read the undisclosed story about the unidentified document, we surely are guilty of some unnamed crime. p.s. I too, am wondering about an alternate website (just in case). Posted by lylene at March 7, 2006 03:37 PM Everyone must now engage in the time-honored act of civil disobedience of laws that make Kafka look like Blackstone or Paine. Get me copies of any of these General Warrants, and I will publically present them to anyone, and let the Gestapo/Brownshits come get me. I have no importance, and some stir time will give me some rest. I'll try to let you all know where the star chamber proceedings are to be held. I prefer the rack to the fingernail pullers, as I've lost height with age. As Braveheart said to an ealier royal tyrant, Freedom! Posted by Rick Cass at March 7, 2006 03:42 PM Doug, I've never posted here before but consider my comments " civil disobedience " against this outrageous attack on your site and freedom of speech. Keep up the good work! Posted by Miriam at March 7, 2006 03:58 PM I GET IT!! Tuesday at the National Vaudeville Theater, or otherwise known as another day at Disneyland On The Potomac. Posted by Lou Raskin at March 7, 2006 04:10 PM If the jackasses make push come to shove, you might want to move the physical location of your web server to Toronto. Also get a Canadian email so you can " name names " if you must. Posted by Michael D. Setty at March 7, 2006 04:28 PM HI YALL, Gary called and said that, " if they want parades and flowers lets build 3333 8x7 cages and rent some flat bed trailers and give em one, all across America in every city.We will throw them flowers!!!! Come to D.C. now and be heard, plan on staying. Posted by a friend at March 7, 2006 04:36 PM He also said DickCheney would APPROVE of this last post.LOL Posted by a friend at March 7, 2006 04:45 PM How long will it be 'til Red Dawn comes? If I haven't got this right, it's been coming for many years. Did not Nixon work under/with McCarthy when labeling people sent some our best overseas? They had tried to avoid being Amerikkanzed into the sort of wimps who now govern us! In the times during which I have been gainfully employed in this place, which asked " Give me your tired and your poor...your huddled masses yearning to be free, " I have done so well that the bureaucrats over me publicly applauded my good work, and sought to/succeeded in defaming me. There is no applause for doing a bangup job anymore. Ergo: The results of a half-century of elections that have proven that mediocrity and phoney charisma qualify one for leadership. It has been going this way, and becoming more productively successful for every deteriorating generation...accellerating the demise of substance and promoting a deepening mediocrity into which we as a nation sink deeper and deeper. GWB et al, as scions of the 5%, have been aided by their patriarchial mentors to become our leaders, but, alas, their later generations have also become involved in the excesses promoted upon humanity. Drugs and sex are not new to our nation, but when the 5% savor their own mischevious SOMA, they need [as the one now there] to have a D.C. in D.C. manipulate them correctly. When that fails, 'a shot in the dark' becomes a shot not to mention. I fear for the country into which I was born, and now see passing into the mindless preoccupation with mediocrity, mindlessness, power and depravity that ruined Greek culture in their classical, democratic period. The bottom line is that when the values of the majority are those of the GWB sort...skimming off the top... we are in trouble. If the majority are not moral, where are we? I HOPE THAT YOU ARE NOT TO BECOME AS ANONYMOUS AS ME! We need more plain-talking statesmen as you would not consider yourself to be, and are on the way to becoming. I wish I had more than my words to help. The pen may be mightier than the sword, but the pen may be quashed by misbegotten power. And art may become debauched as was the Bauhaus with Klee and others when a rejected watercolorist...who was good in his own way...came to power. His name was Adolph Hitler. I am anonymous, but sign me as the one reported to live backwards. Merlin Posted by Aye-NONI-muss at March 7, 2006 04:56 PM hi doug dontpub, but if you like this idea run with it please.write op ed using some of the best comments and make political comparisons to founding fathers , make up a right wing slanted title, by the named ones that will agree to put it on the line, use a ghost writer and ap ed and see if you can slip one through. thanks gary Posted by gary lineberger no publish at March 7, 2006 05:03 PM when the ussr dissolved where do you think all the ex KGB AGENTS went,thats right they are now consultants at dhs on the USSA USSA USSA USSA. DO YOUR RESEARCH , THEY ARE THERE AND AT HERITAGE THINK TANK Posted by gary lineberger at March 7, 2006 05:08 PM Doug, I'm fairly new to your site but I think you're just the man to give the scumbags running this country the hell-on-earth they deserve. If this Republic survives to see 2008, would you consider running for president? I'm not kidding...WE NEED YOU! Posted by DE at March 7, 2006 05:52 PM there is only One who can give them hell on earth, and it is coming soon, take a look at prophecies.org book 12, and get scared. Posted by just a messenger at March 7, 2006 05:57 PM Thus far, since I happened upon this CHB article last evening, there would appear two ways to consider the first and second articles, followed by the rather large number of comments in response. (I don't know if the 24+hr response here is normal, but I've looked at a disturbingly large amount of internet, and haven't really seen anything quite like this to-date. At least not in such a site further removed from the other large choices in the A'x Jones'en web smorgasbord, to say little about the reciprocal world of psycho O'Really Land). At first glance, the 'story' laid out in yesterdays Rant, would hardly seem implausible in light of the last 5 years. Yet a number of respondents have wisely challenged the authenticity of the reported event. Some have requested proof (even if redacted, 'in-kind'), while still others have even challenged Doug for outright fraud. I'll first consider " fraud " , or in such a case as this, I would sooner suspect " artistic license illustrating a point " . If completely fraudulent, then Doug is simply a fool for playing around with any reliability or respectability he might hope to lean upon for his near and long future. At least in any career outside of US Government. He probably knows that. However, if only so fraudulent in time and place, it's hardly deceptive should he be illustrating a most real and plausible scenario happening right now to other people (if only according to Bush himself, and his repressed AG (it's about the honesty, not about the sex)). Thus in the worst, as fraud is concerned, artistic license is still quite plausible, and hardly inappropriate. Quite acceptable I might add, considering the " artistic license " currently employed by the Powers That Be when they're queried for the truth. So to the persons calling such material " fraud " and/or " fantasy " .... I say, with a booming voice, " fuck you, TOO " . Where the hell have you been all these damned years? Now you demand proof? Now you call out, " Cassandra " ? Now you demand the heads of charlatans and rabble-rousers? You're probably the same kind of scum-shits that have been apologizing for kleptocracy and electoral shenanigans all along. You too then, deserve to have a bold middle finger shoved in your face, right now. So then to consider " plausible " , " likely " or, " it actually happened " .... I say, " Big surprise " and " Whoopee! " with all the sarcasm I can muster. For those of us who've been cutting our teeth for YEARS, beginning with fiat currency, individual sovereignty vs. State Sovereignty, constitutional republics in order to limit government overstep, and the hypnotic and highly addictive substance known as " Power " .... this purported NSL is completely REAL. The kind of " real " that people like Mr. Bush and his brand of Power Sycophants dream of day and night. The kind of " real " they wish for, where We The People should just sit the fuck down and trust them to do what's best for us. I stupidly wore a uniform under Bush 1 before I came to any real sense. I wretched during Clinton as I really opened my eyes to government waist and stupendous malfeasance. I boldly told people they were absolute fools if they couldn't see Little Bushy manipulating The Faithful to gain a power base. I was completely dumb struck at the hypocrisy, and " popularity " , of using terrorism to fight terrorism. The slippery slope has been icy smooth under our " Democracy " toboggan waxed for speed. Didn't you know? Yes, I checked my lead shooter last night. Yes, I took a quick glance at my canned goods supply. Yes, I know how silly I look to many of my dear friends.... at least to those still brain-dead on TeeVee and Shopping Malls. But even if I'm still just out-right wrong, or " insane " , that a new dark age is short on the horizon for my country, so what? At least I'm not living in the complete fantasy world where eternal War could ever equal everlasting Peace. Prudence and History are absolutely screaming at me. If your ears aren't ringing too... you're just an " F " student. A " Fuck You " is all you'll ever get, all you'll ever earn. Sincerely, Erin S. Myers (an Intelligence Community " reject " for his " delusional thinking " . Most likely for thinking that authority is questionable, and for reading tin-foil websites like this, and probably because I said we were heading for Civil War and/or Revolution on these very same grounds long before " 9/11 " ever became such a popular catch-phrase). Really, it sucks to have been so spot-on all those years ago. Shouldn't I be pining for some TeeVee right now? Fuck you! P.S. To all the Federal ICs and not-so-federal ICs who waste any time looking at any of my electronic dialogue, I say; Get to work, you lazy good for nothings. The Enemy of the World, using terror at every turn, is now hold-up in all three branches of this here United States Federal Government. While the money tap is still flowing, I suggest you use our zillion-dollar Mega-Super-System to OUT the traitors you took an oath to do. Otherwise at least, if the comments above are ANY indication of the wind's direction.... a most bloody and unfortunate turn of events will unfold, carrying us all away with it. If you can get, and/or are holding The Knowledge to expose this cabal, I'd suggest that you earn your wage. Sooner than later would be nice, thank you. You'll be permanently out of a job otherwise. Posted by Erin S. Myers at March 7, 2006 06:07 PM IF I WERE A POLITICAL CARTOONIST LOOKING FOR AN IDEA , WHICH I DOUBT YOU NEED ANY, LOL!! BUT DO YOU REMEMBER THE GILLIGAN EPISODE WITH LARRY STORK? WHY NOT DRAW ONE WITH BUSH GIVING CANNED SPEECH ABOUT HOW THE NATION IS GREAT PEOPLE ALL ARE WITH HIM AND WE ARE WINNING, YOU KNOW THE SAME SPECH WE HAVE HEARD FOR 5.5 EXCRUCUATING YEARS. THEN SHOW THE BACKSIDE OF THE WHITE HOUSE WITH MILLIONS OF PROTESTORS AROUND THE WHOLE CITY. IF I COULD DRAW I WOULD Posted by TRUEMAN at March 7, 2006 06:48 PM SECRECY .Why would a country that for the next projected 10 years and over the last 10 years will have spent more on national defense than all other countries combined in our entire history.Secrecy and chaos are two of the things that the prince of darkness covets. Maybe Mr. Bush really is royalty? Posted by loiterer out of work at March 7, 2006 06:55 PM Oy!! It's giving me an aneurysm! Thinking about it is giving the aneurysm a migraine... BTW, Mr Bush is royal: a royal PITA. Posted by mobang at March 7, 2006 07:19 PM Good Piece Doug, Hey Dick Cheney ! You shot your friend because you drank to much alllllllcohol! Ya Big dipstick!Be a MAn an face up to it. OOPS! That's right. You have to take responsibility for your wrong doings to become a Man. Posted by Decoymaker at March 7, 2006 08:23 PM First they came for the Communists, and I didn’t speak up, because I wasn’t a Communist. Then they came for the Jews, and I didn’t speak up, because I wasn’t a Jew. Then they came for the Catholics, and I didn’t speak up, because I was a Protestant. Then they came for me, and by that time there was no one left to speak up for me. The Rev. Martin Niemoller wrote those words in Germany in 1945. An early supporter of Adolph Hitler, he realized, too late, his terrible error. Posted by Donald R Mott III at March 7, 2006 08:48 PM Doug, Curiosity is killing me. How do I say this? If an unnamed attorney was to respond to an NSL letter, would you be able to publish excerpts of said letter provided it did not violate attorney/client priviledge and of course not reveal to whom the letter is addressed. In other words, just the good stuff. Posted by unnamed source at March 7, 2006 08:54 PM You are a man after my own heart Doug! What an absolute fine presentation. " You said what, to who for how many pesos " ? LOL What I'm wondering...if you have a kennel full of pups and you feed them well and make them feel secure and cared for and then give them a piece of steak one day and yank it away, what happens? Posted by just wondering... at March 7, 2006 09:10 PM I know such things as goodness and love still exist when I see the courage I see here on this web site. Thank you for all that you do for us. I would love for Mr. Thompson to one day be on the Ed Norris show on WHFS radio in Baltimore. I know that he would be able to educate hundreds of thousands of listeners. If interested, please e-mail me back. The entire world needs to know the truth about what is going on and I've never read a more accurate portrayal of the pure evil of this administration than in articles originally published at this wonderful site. Thank you... Posted by SMS at March 7, 2006 09:13 PM So sad, cause it's so true. Thanks for putting it that way. Posted by Jobe at March 7, 2006 09:15 PM There are independent thinking people, former Republicans, former Democrats, Libertarians, Constitution party members, and others who have totally given up on the process of voting at all because of the plainly evident fraud involved. There are those on the left who believe that they have a lock on the truth and are the sole watchmen for this messed up world, yet there are others who have been warning of this corruption for much longer, the prophets of old and their successors today. Chuck Baldwin's article pulls no punches and indicts the corruption in the churches which has permitted this insanity, yet history shows that the mainstream religious leadership is just as corrupt as the secular leadership. God has not changed His standard, but those who claim to follow God have consistently corrupted and perverted their private interpretation of His message to support and promote their positions and power. God's message has been consistent, Love one another, even to the point of sacrificing your own life for others. That pretty much eliminates the antisocial behaviour which permeates this lawless world today. Problem is that some would eliminate God and His rules claiming that the only law is the Survival of the Fittest which only encourages bullies. The evil in this world is manifested in selfishness, whether it be greed, abuse of power, abuse of others sexually, or any other perversion. As some have mentioned, our forefathers got rid of one King George, yet everyone serves some master, and those same forefathers rallying cry was " No king but King Jesus " He will have no more use for the hypocrite " Christians " than for any other evildoers, for He warned in Matthew: 7:22: Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 7:23: And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. http://www.newswithviews.com/baldwin/baldwin284.htm Grantmeliberty Posted by Grantmeliberty at March 7, 2006 10:22 PM This is the rat that shot the lawyer that lied to the grand jury that tried to indict that caught someone else who told on someone else when the box of e-mails that nobody wrote turned up in the White House that protects the liars and hunts down the Whistleblowers who would reveal the traitors who call themselves patriots and who wrap themselves in flags and bibles and are too stupid to comprehend science like half of America that lives in the country that still thinks it's a democracy but is really the fascist state that Bush built. Okay. Clear now. Posted by Gregory Frost at March 7, 2006 10:28 PM I was an Infantry Officer, then an Intelligence Officer, and finished 35 years service to our Republic as an Attorney in a Federal law enforcement agency.. I'd resign my office before getting involved in this jack-booted thug coercion scheme.. The current group of federal attorneys seems to have forgotten that they swore allegiance to the Constitution (and the People). Rather, they act as though they swore an oath of personal loyalty unto death to their Fuhrer, Dubya Bush.. Posted by Walt Ludewig at March 7, 2006 10:29 PM I heard this read on Air America while driving and amost laughed myself into a ditch. An instant classic. May the force be with you and beware of things that go bump in the night. Posted by kali at March 7, 2006 10:31 PM I heard this on Tom Hartman's show today and came to your site. As soon as I could I copied the article and sent to my Senators. Which both of them voted against the renewal of the Patriot Act. How scary. I'm sure we'll all be investigated now. Thank you for being a real american. Posted by Carl at March 7, 2006 11:18 PM A New Don't Tread on Me for a New World Ordure All proceeds to the Doug Defense fund - or to the ACLU, in case he dosen't need it. XfingersX. Posted by Bob King at March 7, 2006 11:44 PM Dear Doug, I am a lawyer in Australia and your article has been received by us with wry amusement. But we have similar legislation here. So please, may I have permission to do 'further' copies of your articles: the unknown but suspected one and the latter known one of 7.3.06. If you know what I mean? The 'dissapearing' legislation here is for a minimun of 14 days. So when we return we will have to try and convince our colleagues that we were not away at all, that we were here and they are therefore mad for missing us. Best of luck. BA. Posted by B Antcliffe at March 7, 2006 11:46 PM After reading of a few concerns here about someone being " disappeared " I agree with some who say we need some alternatives or other ways to stick together or help each other. If we don't, it might be too late. They are hoping we are taken off guard and they are going to FIRST go for not only the ones most read but also the ones that get closer to the truth. They know Doug gets information from the inside and it is driving them crazy. I wish I knew how to do this but I don't. You realize how important Freedom of Assembly has become to us on line. It's the only way we have of getting information. I have no doubt that they are going to go after the ones like Doug to cut off our " supply. " Someone needs to come up with something because I think we're in some big trouble. We are going to need each other and continue getting the truth out some way. Doug, if you are reading and have some ideas, let's hear them. Do you have all of our email addresses? and do you give them to someone else so that someone has a list of all of us? Someone mentioned Harry Potter and He Who Shall Not be Named. Perhaps we could get our own owls so we can send messages to each other, and some wicked broomsticks. We might need some magic in order to figure out how we can stick together. And of course continue to get the truth. Scary doesn't even begin to cover this. Sharin in California Posted by Sharin at March 8, 2006 02:24 AM " I would rather lose in a cause that will some day win, than win in a cause that will some day lose. NOTICE: Due to Presidential Executive Orders, the National Security Agency may have read this email without warning, warrant, or notice. They may do this without any judicial or legislative oversight. You have no recourse nor protection save to call for the impeachment of the current President. 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