Guest guest Posted November 18, 2005 Report Share Posted November 18, 2005 I have been dealing with a celiac diagnosis for almost a year now. I have just learned about phytates tonight, and am at a loss as to what to give my kids and myself to drink as a milk substitute. I am already so deficient with my calcium, but I don't want to us to gain calcium while losing zinc. I don't want cow milk, and now I am learning that soy milk is wrong too, but for different reasons. Could someone out there help me figure this out? I thought that the soy isoflavones were a positive health benefit, but now I learn that they aren't. I am lost on this. Julie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2005 Report Share Posted November 18, 2005 You can always supplement with a Zinc/Copper pill (copper will be depleted with zinc supplementation) with cow's milk, but if you're gonna have that, you should take a magnesium pill also, so the calcium doesn't turn into calcium deposits (gall or kidney stones, arterial plaque), but instead absorbs as it should. Option2: Calcium (Citrate, for best absorption)/Magnesium/Vit. D pills and rice or oat milk, available at health food stores. Cal/mag/zinc is also available. Info in alternative care can lead you in a million different directions. Since the FDA purposefully keeps there stamp of approval off nutritional research, things are very tough if you want scientifically rigorous and non-contradictory answers to the questions you have. Good luck to you. Julie <abetterjulie wrote: I have been dealing with a celiac diagnosis for almost a year now. I have just learned about phytates tonight, and am at a loss as to what to give my kids and myself to drink as a milk substitute. I am already so deficient with my calcium, but I don't want to us to gain calcium while losing zinc. I don't want cow milk, and now I am learning that soy milk is wrong too, but for different reasons. Could someone out there help me figure this out? I thought that the soy isoflavones were a positive health benefit, but now I learn that they aren't. I am lost on this. Julie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2005 Report Share Posted November 18, 2005 I have celiac disease too and it is true that many celiacs are also dairy intolerant, but not all. Have you tried almond milk or rice milk to have on your cereal or for the children? Those are very good, but may take a little getting used to as they are not as thick in consistency as cow's milk. They are more like skim milk in consistency. You could add calcium supplements to compensate for the loss of calcium from the cow's milk. I am sure there are supplements for children also that have adequate calcium in them. Just check at a good health food store. Also, many people who are intolerant of cow's milk can tolerate goat's milk, which I like. These are just thoughts. Good luck! Holidays can be hard for celiacs but there are pies at Whole Foods you can buy that are gluten free and sweetened with natural sugars or fruit juice. Linda Julie <abetterjulie wrote: I have been dealing with a celiac diagnosis for almost a year now. I have just learned about phytates tonight, and am at a loss as to what to give my kids and myself to drink as a milk substitute. I am already so deficient with my calcium, but I don't want to us to gain calcium while losing zinc. I don't want cow milk, and now I am learning that soy milk is wrong too, but for different reasons. Could someone out there help me figure this out? I thought that the soy isoflavones were a positive health benefit, but now I learn that they aren't. I am lost on this. Julie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2005 Report Share Posted November 27, 2005 People can be healthy without milk products. Canned Salmon and sardines are good sources of calcium. Surprisingly some vegetable are decent sources. It also important to get ample amounts of vitamin D3 and vitamin K1 and K2. Supplements can be a great help. Personally, I take 4000 IUs (100 micrograms) of vitamin D3 during the Fall and Winter months. Granted the UL is 2000 IU but there is ample reason to believe the UL is too low for many, IMO. And granted there are a few conditions that may cause some to be hypersenitive to the vitamin such as Williams symdrome sufferers and sarcoidosis. Do a Pubmed search for the name Holick, Viethe, and Heaney (MS?) on the topic of vitamin D3. Further, look at the Japanese research of vitamin K2 for prevention and treatment of osteopenia and osteoporosis. I take 10 milligrams vitamin K1 (9 mg) and k2 (1 mg)supplement though I noticed that a 15 milligram vitamin K2 supplement available. Vitamin K2 is the preferred form. Even orange juice with added calcium can provide calcium. I sometimes use calcium carbonate that I add to my ascorbic acid solution (from powder). The result is a neutral solution that won't damage teeth and provides both a vitamin/anion and a mineral/cation. Both can be really inexpensive when purchased in bulk powder form. , " Julie " <abetterjulie@h...> wrote: > > I have been dealing with a celiac diagnosis for almost a year now. I > have just learned about phytates tonight, and am at a loss as to what > to give my kids and myself to drink as a milk substitute. I am > already so deficient with my calcium, but I don't want to us to gain > calcium while losing zinc. I don't want cow milk, and now I am > learning that soy milk is wrong too, but for different reasons. > Could someone out there help me figure this out? > I thought that the soy isoflavones were a positive health benefit, but > now I learn that they aren't. I am lost on this. > > Julie > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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