Guest guest Posted May 31, 2004 Report Share Posted May 31, 2004 Hello All! I am Kelly, new to this board. This board was recommended to me from another list so I hope to educate myself and learn a lot from all of you. I have recently (within 3 days) made the switch from Zoloft, rx for depression, to St. John's Wort (two daily). I was put on Zoloft for post partum depression about four years ago and have been unable to wean myself for years due to harsh side effects. The transition has been relatively smooth thus far. My question is this - will St. JOhn's wort eventually " wear off " with the need for more? Second question - before going on Zoloft I took St. John's Wort and Kava, but when I asked my health food store (GNC) for Kava, they said due to safety reasons they no longer sell Kava (??). Can I still get Kava and is there now a great risk that I am unaware of? Anyway, sorry so long winded. Glad to be here. Kelly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2004 Report Share Posted June 1, 2004 Hi Kelly! I'm another Kelli! I haven't seen another on the list, but maybe there are more lurking. Anyway, welcome! Congrats on getting off the psych drugs! Very well done! I don't have any specific info for you on the St John's Wort or Kava, sorry, but I wanted to suggest some other things to help boost your system while you're in this transition - Total Nutrition (info in the files- great vitamin/mineral supplement!), Vitamin B1 (medications strip B1 from your body, you need to replenish) and Zinc (deficiency in Zinc has been related to post-partum depression). Welcome to the group! Kelli Kelly [ExtraEcclesiamNullaSalus] Monday, May 31, 2004 6:55 AMherbal remedies Subject: Herbal Remedies - New here - ? re St. John's WortHello All! I am Kelly, new to this board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2004 Report Share Posted June 1, 2004 Thank you Kelli! I do appreciate the info. I had no idea about the B1. I am taking additional b6, as I have heard this will help with mood boosting. Thank you for the welcome! +JMJ+Kelly Mom to Jordana (6), Bella (2) and John Paul (1). "The further you withdraw from earthly things, The closer you approach heavenly things, The more you find God. St John of the Cross " Ave Maria, gratia plena, Dominus tecum. Benedicta tu in mulieribus, et benedictus fructus ventris tui, Iesus. Sancta Maria, Mater Dei, ora pro nobis peccatoribus, nunc, et in hora mortis nostrae. Amen. EENS - Kelli Bever herbal remedies Tuesday, June 01, 2004 4:48 PM RE: Herbal Remedies - New here - ? re St. John's Wort Hi Kelly! I'm another Kelli! I haven't seen another on the list, but maybe there are more lurking. Anyway, welcome! Congrats on getting off the psych drugs! Very well done! I don't have any specific info for you on the St John's Wort or Kava, sorry, but I wanted to suggest some other things to help boost your system while you're in this transition - Total Nutrition (info in the files- great vitamin/mineral supplement!), Vitamin B1 (medications strip B1 from your body, you need to replenish) and Zinc (deficiency in Zinc has been related to post-partum depression). Welcome to the group! Kelli Kelly [ExtraEcclesiamNullaSalus] Monday, May 31, 2004 6:55 AMherbal remedies Subject: Herbal Remedies - New here - ? re St. John's WortHello All! I am Kelly, new to this board. Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 Something else that is helpful is L-Tryptophan. I have always found that the more easily-found form, 5-HTP, is very hard on my stomach (hurts like hell). I prefer to take real L-Tryptophan. If you can't find it, let me know and I can tell you the manufacturer of the brand I purchase. JoJo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2004 Report Share Posted June 3, 2004 hey guys im new on the list i wish someone would tell me the recipe for total tonic does anyone know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2004 Report Share Posted June 3, 2004 Tryptophan is wonderful. The book that changed my life " Prescriptions for Nutritional Healing " mentions that the main 3 neurotransmitters (brain chemicals) responsible for mood are influenced by the intake of protein and tryptophan. Serotonin is elevated by tryptophan consumption but the other two need protein. The best way that I've found to maintain my neurotransmitters is to consume turkey or salmon (I love salmon, but turkey is a great alternative for ppl who don't do fish ) because both have high levels of protein AND tryptophan. That's the biggest thing. Another thing I do is consume a B-complex tablet every day, because I've heard (from the same book) that B vitamins function best when taken together. Vitamin B5 is GREAT for stress. It's " the " anti-stress vitamin, says my research. And last but not least, I AVOID refined sugar, at all costs. (I understand there are sugars in honey, fruit, and more natural forms of sugar cane, etc, but I somehow don't have the reaction to them that I do with refined sugar.) Sugar DEPLETES neurotransmitters, from what I gather. (If any of this is wrong or inaccurate, PLZ let me know; this is the consensus I reached when I researched my own depression and the remedies have worked very well for me.) St. John's wort is great for me when my anxiety levels are high, I have PMS, or if I'm incessantly worrying about something or going in mental circles. If I'm angry and pissed off, Valerian root is my best friend. If my adrenaline is up there from lots of stress, I have taken Kava Kava without problems, but one must not use kava carelessly. Wort and Valerian are pretty safe, tho. (And don't take TOO much Vitamin B, says the Nutritional Healing book, for overdose my cause nerve damage. But I imagine that'd take a lot. ) Hope that helps. In Love & Light, --Jeni Laura herbal remedies , " JoJo " <jojozawawi> wrote: > Something else that is helpful is L-Tryptophan. I have always found > that the more easily-found form, 5-HTP, is very hard on my stomach > (hurts like hell). I prefer to take real L-Tryptophan. If you can't > find it, let me know and I can tell you the manufacturer of the brand > I purchase. > > JoJo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2004 Report Share Posted June 3, 2004 The recipe is in the files under "Doc Ian Shillington ND". :)Kelli xinxiang12 [xinxiang12] Wednesday, June 02, 2004 9:40 PMherbal remedies Subject: Re: Herbal Remedies - New here - ? re St. John's Worthey guys im new on the list i wish someone would tell me the recipe for total tonic does anyone know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2004 Report Share Posted June 3, 2004 Go ahead! What's the source of that Tryptophan JoJo. ;o) (as long as it ain't MLM ;o) Love, Doc Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.727-738-0554DocShillington - JoJo herbal remedies Tuesday, June 01, 2004 10:50 PM Re: Herbal Remedies - New here - ? re St. John's Wort Something else that is helpful is L-Tryptophan. I have always found that the more easily-found form, 5-HTP, is very hard on my stomach (hurts like hell). I prefer to take real L-Tryptophan. If you can't find it, let me know and I can tell you the manufacturer of the brand I purchase.JoJo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2004 Report Share Posted June 5, 2004 Here's the source of the L-Tryptophan: L-Tryptophan BIOS Biochemicals Corp. Veterinary Division Mesa, AZ 85203 Tel. (800) 404-8185 http://www.biochemicals.com I have spoken when their president and their main chemist on the phone. The dosage is 1 pill (500 mg) per 50 lbs. of body weight (or less if you want to take less). It should not be taken near the ingestion of protein (especially milk protein), because these proteins will compete with the L-Tryptophan in getting across the brain blood barrier, so you won't get as much out of it. Instead, wait 1/2-hour after taking the L-Tryptophan before eating protein, and wait at least 2 hours after eating protein to take L-Tryptophan. Taking it with some carbohydrates (such as fruit) will improve its absorption. Most people take it at bedtime. I've been using this product for several years now. xoxoxo JoJo herbal remedies , " Doc Shillington " <DocShillington@V...> wrote: > Go ahead! > What's the source of that Tryptophan JoJo. ;o) > (as long as it ain't MLM ;o) > Love, > Doc > > Ian " Doc " Shillington N.D. > 727-738-0554 > DocShillington@V... > - > JoJo > herbal remedies > Tuesday, June 01, 2004 10:50 PM > Re: Herbal Remedies - New here - ? re St. John's Wort > > > Something else that is helpful is L-Tryptophan. I have always found > that the more easily-found form, 5-HTP, is very hard on my stomach > (hurts like hell). I prefer to take real L-Tryptophan. If you can't > find it, let me know and I can tell you the manufacturer of the brand > I purchase. > > JoJo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2004 Report Share Posted June 10, 2004 Thanks Kiddo. ;o) Doc Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.727-738-0554DocShillington - JoJo herbal remedies Friday, June 04, 2004 7:53 PM Re: Herbal Remedies - New here - ? re St. John's Wort Here's the source of the L-Tryptophan:L-TryptophanBIOS Biochemicals Corp.Veterinary DivisionMesa, AZ 85203Tel. (800) 404-8185http://www.biochemicals.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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