Guest guest Posted May 27, 2004 Report Share Posted May 27, 2004 I had heard the comment that "only humans drink milk from other species" and mentioned it to someone, and they pointed out that dogs and cats will drink cows milk (or goat, or...) as well. Maybe it's just us domesticated species that has this habit! LOL! When I was working on a goat farm (my first paying job as a young teenager) the main thing that I did was feed them and milk them. The goats would often get mastitis or a "congested udder" and they were never pushed to produce or stressed. Some does were more susceptible, and others never got it. This wasn't a farm where the milk was mass produced and sold. It was a "family, backyard" farm and the does were milked twice per day - once in the morning and once at night. Anyway, based on that experience as well as the fact that even in humans some are "better milkers" than others, I would suspect that any cow could be susceptible to health issues or stress in the area of milking, regardless of "push to produce", organic or no. Well, there ya go. Just my thoughts on this issue. By the way, I have always loved ice cream and cheese! Some of the best foods on the planet! I've given them up, however, so that I can breathe! LOL! :)Kelli Candace Podratz [CandaceAndBrock] Thursday, May 27, 2004 8:45 AMherbal remedies Subject: Re: Herbal Remedies - CandaceThe site had a good point in that humans are the only creatures that drinkmilk from another species. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2004 Report Share Posted May 27, 2004 I have also heard that comment, but I look at how much cows produce (without "helpers") and I think in my Christian view that the things on the earth were put here for us to use. This includes both plants and animals (all parts). It's when you get into excess that you get into trouble. Cheerio, -Shelby Kelli Bever [kelli]Thursday, May 27, 2004 9:04 AMherbal remedies Subject: RE: Herbal Remedies - milk and pus I had heard the comment that "only humans drink milk from other species" and mentioned it to someone, and they pointed out that dogs and cats will drink cows milk (or goat, or...) as well. Maybe it's just us domesticated species that has this habit! LOL! When I was working on a goat farm (my first paying job as a young teenager) the main thing that I did was feed them and milk them. The goats would often get mastitis or a "congested udder" and they were never pushed to produce or stressed. Some does were more susceptible, and others never got it. This wasn't a farm where the milk was mass produced and sold. It was a "family, backyard" farm and the does were milked twice per day - once in the morning and once at night. Anyway, based on that experience as well as the fact that even in humans some are "better milkers" than others, I would suspect that any cow could be susceptible to health issues or stress in the area of milking, regardless of "push to produce", organic or no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2004 Report Share Posted May 27, 2004 That's true. I was very susceptible to getting mastitis when Brock was nursing. But I was pushed to over produce!!! LOL I don't think I could EVER give up cheese! - Kelli Bever herbal remedies Thursday, May 27, 2004 12:04 PM RE: Herbal Remedies - milk and pus I had heard the comment that "only humans drink milk from other species" and mentioned it to someone, and they pointed out that dogs and cats will drink cows milk (or goat, or...) as well. Maybe it's just us domesticated species that has this habit! LOL! When I was working on a goat farm (my first paying job as a young teenager) the main thing that I did was feed them and milk them. The goats would often get mastitis or a "congested udder" and they were never pushed to produce or stressed. Some does were more susceptible, and others never got it. This wasn't a farm where the milk was mass produced and sold. It was a "family, backyard" farm and the does were milked twice per day - once in the morning and once at night. Anyway, based on that experience as well as the fact that even in humans some are "better milkers" than others, I would suspect that any cow could be susceptible to health issues or stress in the area of milking, regardless of "push to produce", organic or no. Well, there ya go. Just my thoughts on this issue. By the way, I have always loved ice cream and cheese! Some of the best foods on the planet! I've given them up, however, so that I can breathe! LOL! :)Kelli Candace Podratz [CandaceAndBrock] Thursday, May 27, 2004 8:45 AMherbal remedies Subject: Re: Herbal Remedies - CandaceThe site had a good point in that humans are the only creatures that drinkmilk from another species. Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2004 Report Share Posted May 27, 2004 That's true, don't mean to use the B word...um...the Big Book talks about the promised land being a land "flowing with milk and honey" so we are obviously supposed to eat/drink it. ~sigh~ I just wish I didn't know what was in it! - Shelby Blakely herbal remedies Thursday, May 27, 2004 12:20 PM RE: Herbal Remedies - milk and pus I have also heard that comment, but I look at how much cows produce (without "helpers") and I think in my Christian view that the things on the earth were put here for us to use. This includes both plants and animals (all parts). It's when you get into excess that you get into trouble. Cheerio, -Shelby Kelli Bever [kelli]Thursday, May 27, 2004 9:04 AMherbal remedies Subject: RE: Herbal Remedies - milk and pus I had heard the comment that "only humans drink milk from other species" and mentioned it to someone, and they pointed out that dogs and cats will drink cows milk (or goat, or...) as well. Maybe it's just us domesticated species that has this habit! LOL! When I was working on a goat farm (my first paying job as a young teenager) the main thing that I did was feed them and milk them. The goats would often get mastitis or a "congested udder" and they were never pushed to produce or stressed. Some does were more susceptible, and others never got it. This wasn't a farm where the milk was mass produced and sold. It was a "family, backyard" farm and the does were milked twice per day - once in the morning and once at night. Anyway, based on that experience as well as the fact that even in humans some are "better milkers" than others, I would suspect that any cow could be susceptible to health issues or stress in the area of milking, regardless of "push to produce", organic or no. Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2004 Report Share Posted May 27, 2004 I totally understand, Candace, and I would have said the same thing a few months ago, but I've been without for a while now and no cravings or regrets. In fact, after a while I did try some again, and it didn't taste as good as I remembered. Really no desire to have any now! :)Kelli Candace Podratz [CandaceAndBrock] Thursday, May 27, 2004 11:37 AMherbal remedies Subject: Re: Herbal Remedies - milk and pus I don't think I could EVER give up cheese! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2004 Report Share Posted May 27, 2004 herbal remedies , " Kelli Bever " <kelli@c...> wrote: > I had heard the comment that " only humans drink milk from other species " and mentioned it to someone, and they pointed out that dogs and cats will drink cows milk (or goat, or...) as well. I would have to say that cats and dogs don't seek out milk as humans do. Also, they do not raise them for this purpose. Also, I suspect that biblical arguments in support of an animal based diet don't hold alot of water thousands of years after the book was written as Factory Farming, Antibiotics, Growth Hormones and the list is endless, didn't exist back then. Also, the book promotes both pro vegetarian and pro meat diets depending on the particular time period. Now I promise I will not mention the B word again! I will keep my opinions to myself! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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