Call-to-arms - MAYDAY!!! Unbelievabl legislation in Louisiana regarding Drugs.

[Guest guest]

What is disgusting, that this legislation is about to be signed or

that there are some kids " doped up " as you call it? Do you have

children that are in need of medication? Do you have any direct

experience with kids that need medication? I do and it's not

disgusting. The only thing that's keeping my children sane and

giving them the ability to focus on life around them are the

medications that they're on. I resisted for as long as I could until

one told me he wanted to die.

 

Before you go bashing kids and medication and the parents who give

them you might want to talk to some parents of bi-polar and depressed

children. Until then I respectfully suggest you be quiet about the

subject.

 

herbal remedies , " Caroline "

<ladyguinevere@e...> wrote:

> This is absolutely disgusting...as if we don't have enough doped up

kids in the school as it is. My mother teaches Kindergarten...and

this year...out of 18 kids....she has 3 that have to go take their

medications during the day...two of them are on Ritalin...this just

amazes me.

>

> Caroline

> -

> Doc Shillington

> herbal remedies

> Monday, May 10, 2004 3:39 PM

> Herbal Remedies - Call-to-arms - MAYDAY!!! Unbelievable

legislation in Louisiana regarding Drugs.

>

>

> This from an attorney friend of mine in Louisiana.

> This requires our immediate attention guys. It is no laughing

matter where we can sit on the side lines and let the other guy do it.

> I suggest faxes and an inundation of paper for the Governor of

LA. Better yet, there's an 800 # and there's an email address as

well.

> Let's do all three. ;-)

> Love,

> Doc

>

> Ian " Doc " Shillington N.D.

> 727-738-0554

> Doc@A...

>

>

> L.D. Sledge

>

> The unbelievable has happened. The Louisiana legislature, House

and Senate,

> passed a bill which allows non-medical psychologists to prescribe

and dispense

> just about every psychotropic drug on every list, including

Ritalin, and

> schedule 2 narcotics, you name it. It lists the drugs in the bill

and chemical

> composition. I am in a state of shock.

>

> Senate Bill (SB 754) sits on the desk of the new woman governor

Kathleen

> Blanco for signing. She can still veto it. Everyone, and I mean

everyone, must

> call toll free and blow them away with faxes (or emails) telling

your

> opposition to this incredible turn of events.

>

> Call the Governor's office, 800-317-5918 and fax to 225-342-7099.

This is

> terribly important. The Psychological Association of America says

if this goes

> through the dam will break, and every other state will then pass

such bills.

> This will have such far reaching results that the entire country

will be on

> psychotropic medication for as little as a runny nose, or an

itch. Eli

> Lily and Wyeth, etc., would love to see every person on drugs. It

is almost

> there---the drugged future and I am scared.

>

> Ritalin alone, prescribed to millions of children now in this

country, is

> " speed " , methylphenidate, the favored street drug in Canada and

banned in much

> of Europe. It operates as a psychological straight jacket, giving

a child

> taking it the label of being handicapped in the medical records,

entitling

> many schools to some federal generosity (money), motivating

schools to

> demanding the child be put on medication if the child can't sit

still or seems

> to demonstrate symptoms of daydreaming or not being mama's little

angel.

>

> So please take action right now to call and fax or email. This

bill slipped

> through with heavy lobbying by the drug industry but without

anyone knowing

> anything about it, and as you know in Louisiana, our legislature

has the best

> lawmakers money can buy.

>

> You can send by email at this link:

http://www.gov.state.la.us/govemail.asp

>

> L.D. Sledge

> Louisiana and Clearwater, FL

> ---------------------------

> Update on 4/30/04:

>

> Again, for those who haven't read and aren't aware of this, call

toll free:

> 800-317-5918, to voice your opposition to this legislation---you

don't have to

> be from Louisiana. Sheer volume of calls would make a difference.

If every

> person on this list would call alone it would sway her I am sure.

>

> The FAX number, which is the best way to communicate, giving her

a physical

> sheaf of papers to see, is 225-342-7099.

>

> So for those who have not done so, PLEASE write or call her

immediately. This

> is vital to our survival, and is a small thing you can do to keep

our personal door

> to freedom open.

>

> L.D. Sledge

> ---------------------------

> Harry Frisch in Clearwater

>

> CALL FROM ANYWHERE ... and make a difference!

>

> When I called Governor Blanco's (800) 317-5918 number, and

expressed my

> message for the Governor, to the Governor's aid, she did not ask

me if I was a

> Louisiana resident or where I was calling from. That means that

these calls

> from all over the USA will " register " with the Governor with

equal strength as

> calls from her Louisiana incumbents, no matter WHERE the caller

is calling

> from.

>

> It just takes a few seconds to make your call to (800) 317-5918

and state your

> opposition to SB 754... which may turn out to be that one extra

straw it took

> to change this important piece of history! ...Got a few seconds

to change

> history?

>

> Very best,

> Harry Frisch,

> Clearwater

> ---------------------------

> Update on 5/1/04:

>

> As far as I know at this time, this bill has not been signed by

the Governor

> yet. I think our effort has had a very big effect. We need to

continue the

> push. If we all stamp in time, we can trample their building down.

>

> ldsledge

> ---------------------------

> Sue Mustard in California

>

> Yes, I made the same call from Los Angeles, California, and

mentioned this

> to the gal at the Gov.'s office, and she seemed just fine with it.

> Do make the call from anywhere.

>

>

> Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following:

> 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire.

> 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any

natural remedy.

> 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own

physician and to

> prescribe for your own health.

> We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here

as long as

> they behave themselves.

> Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and

any person

> following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own

risk.

> It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or

products from list members, you are agreeing to

> be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner

and members free of any liability.

>

> Dr. Ian Shillington

> Doctor of Naturopathy

> Dr.IanShillington@G...

>

>

>

> --

----------

>

[Guest guest]

Ginger-

I hear what you are saying. This is a tough subject.....My sister and

girlfriend both battled depression for a while....The point is that dietary and

herbal solutions can combat these problems naturally and fully without the

un-needed side effects of the the pharma drugs. But they are much harder and

more intensive to take than just one pill a day. But what we have to realize is

that there are not quick fixes in this world....Those quick fixes may seem like

they work for sometime but they have side effects and complications...This list

is dedicated to help people find natural and/or herbal remedies for ailments

that doctors just want to prescribe drugs for. For some drugs are needed for

the time being....my sister had lost half her head of hair due to Lyme's disease

complications at age 15. This was devastating to her and I commend her on her

strength to get up every morning. She was put on an anti-depressant for a while

and it helped her. She now takes a natural anti-depressant (SAM-e) and is doing

much better. Her hair isn't fully back yet but it is slowly coming back....She

fought through this and it was tough for her and my family....My point is that

diet plays a huge part in creating depression, but it can be overcome. You can

do the herbal/diet changes at the same time as taking the AD and slowly wein off

if possible....I would call Doc if this is something you are interested in.

Good luck to you.

Rob

 

Ginger [vleonard]

Tue 5/11/2004 3:22 PM

herbal remedies

Cc:

Re: Herbal Remedies - Call-to-arms - MAYDAY!!! Unbelievabl legislation

in Louisiana regarding Drugs.

 

 

 

What is disgusting, that this legislation is about to be signed or

that there are some kids " doped up " as you call it? Do you have

children that are in need of medication? Do you have any direct

experience with kids that need medication? I do and it's not

disgusting. The only thing that's keeping my children sane and

giving them the ability to focus on life around them are the

medications that they're on. I resisted for as long as I could until

one told me he wanted to die.

 

Before you go bashing kids and medication and the parents who give

them you might want to talk to some parents of bi-polar and depressed

children. Until then I respectfully suggest you be quiet about the

subject.

 

herbal remedies , " Caroline "

<ladyguinevere@e...> wrote:

> This is absolutely disgusting...as if we don't have enough doped up

kids in the school as it is. My mother teaches Kindergarten...and

this year...out of 18 kids....she has 3 that have to go take their

medications during the day...two of them are on Ritalin...this just

amazes me.

>

> Caroline

> -

> Doc Shillington

> herbal remedies

> Monday, May 10, 2004 3:39 PM

> Herbal Remedies - Call-to-arms - MAYDAY!!! Unbelievable

legislation in Louisiana regarding Drugs.

>

>

> This from an attorney friend of mine in Louisiana.

> This requires our immediate attention guys. It is no laughing

matter where we can sit on the side lines and let the other guy do it.

> I suggest faxes and an inundation of paper for the Governor of

LA. Better yet, there's an 800 # and there's an email address as

well.

> Let's do all three. ;-)

> Love,

> Doc

>

> Ian " Doc " Shillington N.D.

> 727-738-0554

> Doc@A...

>

>

> L.D. Sledge

>

> The unbelievable has happened. The Louisiana legislature, House

and Senate,

> passed a bill which allows non-medical psychologists to prescribe

and dispense

> just about every psychotropic drug on every list, including

Ritalin, and

> schedule 2 narcotics, you name it. It lists the drugs in the bill

and chemical

> composition. I am in a state of shock.

>

> Senate Bill (SB 754) sits on the desk of the new woman governor

Kathleen

> Blanco for signing. She can still veto it. Everyone, and I mean

everyone, must

> call toll free and blow them away with faxes (or emails) telling

your

> opposition to this incredible turn of events.

>

> Call the Governor's office, 800-317-5918 and fax to 225-342-7099.

This is

> terribly important. The Psychological Association of America says

if this goes

> through the dam will break, and every other state will then pass

such bills.

> This will have such far reaching results that the entire country

will be on

> psychotropic medication for as little as a runny nose, or an

itch. Eli

> Lily and Wyeth, etc., would love to see every person on drugs. It

is almost

> there---the drugged future and I am scared.

>

> Ritalin alone, prescribed to millions of children now in this

country, is

> " speed " , methylphenidate, the favored street drug in Canada and

banned in much

> of Europe. It operates as a psychological straight jacket, giving

a child

> taking it the label of being handicapped in the medical records,

entitling

> many schools to some federal generosity (money), motivating

schools to

> demanding the child be put on medication if the child can't sit

still or seems

> to demonstrate symptoms of daydreaming or not being mama's little

angel.

>

> So please take action right now to call and fax or email. This

bill slipped

> through with heavy lobbying by the drug industry but without

anyone knowing

> anything about it, and as you know in Louisiana, our legislature

has the best

> lawmakers money can buy.

>

> You can send by email at this link:

http://www.gov.state.la.us/govemail.asp

>

> L.D. Sledge

> Louisiana and Clearwater, FL

> ---------------------------

> Update on 4/30/04:

>

> Again, for those who haven't read and aren't aware of this, call

toll free:

> 800-317-5918, to voice your opposition to this legislation---you

don't have to

> be from Louisiana. Sheer volume of calls would make a difference.

If every

> person on this list would call alone it would sway her I am sure.

>

> The FAX number, which is the best way to communicate, giving her

a physical

> sheaf of papers to see, is 225-342-7099.

>

> So for those who have not done so, PLEASE write or call her

immediately. This

> is vital to our survival, and is a small thing you can do to keep

our personal door

> to freedom open.

>

> L.D. Sledge

> ---------------------------

> Harry Frisch in Clearwater

>

> CALL FROM ANYWHERE ... and make a difference!

>

> When I called Governor Blanco's (800) 317-5918 number, and

expressed my

> message for the Governor, to the Governor's aid, she did not ask

me if I was a

> Louisiana resident or where I was calling from. That means that

these calls

> from all over the USA will " register " with the Governor with

equal strength as

> calls from her Louisiana incumbents, no matter WHERE the caller

is calling

> from.

>

> It just takes a few seconds to make your call to (800) 317-5918

and state your

> opposition to SB 754... which may turn out to be that one extra

straw it took

> to change this important piece of history! ...Got a few seconds

to change

> history?

>

> Very best,

> Harry Frisch,

> Clearwater

> ---------------------------

> Update on 5/1/04:

>

> As far as I know at this time, this bill has not been signed by

the Governor

> yet. I think our effort has had a very big effect. We need to

continue the

> push. If we all stamp in time, we can trample their building down.

>

> ldsledge

> ---------------------------

> Sue Mustard in California

>

> Yes, I made the same call from Los Angeles, California, and

mentioned this

> to the gal at the Gov.'s office, and she seemed just fine with it.

> Do make the call from anywhere.

>

>

> Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following:

> 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire.

> 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any

natural remedy.

> 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own

physician and to

> prescribe for your own health.

> We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here

as long as

> they behave themselves.

> Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and

any person

> following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own

risk.

> It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or

products from list members, you are agreeing to

> be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner

and members free of any liability.

>

> Dr. Ian Shillington

> Doctor of Naturopathy

> Dr.IanShillington@G...

>

>

>

> --

----------

>

[Guest guest]

MY grandson has ADHD and also mini bouts of depression. I am

familiar with it as are many of us here.

 

My daughter and all 2 grandsons stayed with us for a year and during

that time i suggested that she (daughter) try the herbal route

because while on Adderol he was sometimes depressed and frequently

had a loss of appetite and he is now underweight. It was for the

time working as was the organic diet we had him on, however once the

school semester started his teacher didnt want to be patient and deal

with it.

 

As a result my daughter had no choice except to put him back on meds

or face dealing with stupid child welfare people. She tried other

meds including the newest on the market and for the life of me i cant

think of the name, but the point is, why doom him to a life of

chemical dependancy or other health problems because his techer cant

deal with it?

 

And in all honesty, now that he is back on meds, he still has those

bad days. I have seen him try to hurt himself, not necessarily to

kill himself, but hurt is hurt and it is not being helped by drugs.

 

So, in my experienced opinion... it is disgusting and an outrage!

 

Sylvia

 

herbal remedies , " Ginger " <vleonard@m...>

wrote:

> What is disgusting, that this legislation is about to be signed or

> that there are some kids " doped up " as you call it? Do you have

> children that are in need of medication? Do you have any direct

> experience with kids that need medication? I do and it's not

> disgusting. The only thing that's keeping my children sane and

> giving them the ability to focus on life around them are the

> medications that they're on. I resisted for as long as I could

until

> one told me he wanted to die.

>

> Before you go bashing kids and medication and the parents who give

> them you might want to talk to some parents of bi-polar and

depressed

> children. Until then I respectfully suggest you be quiet about the

> subject.

>

> herbal remedies , " Caroline "

> <ladyguinevere@e...> wrote:

> > This is absolutely disgusting...as if we don't have enough doped

up

> kids in the school as it is. My mother teaches Kindergarten...and

> this year...out of 18 kids....she has 3 that have to go take their

> medications during the day...two of them are on Ritalin...this just

> amazes me.

> >

> > Caroline

> > -

> > Doc Shillington

> > herbal remedies

> > Monday, May 10, 2004 3:39 PM

> > Herbal Remedies - Call-to-arms - MAYDAY!!!

Unbelievable

> legislation in Louisiana regarding Drugs.

> >

> >

> > This from an attorney friend of mine in Louisiana.

> > This requires our immediate attention guys. It is no laughing

> matter where we can sit on the side lines and let the other guy do

it.

> > I suggest faxes and an inundation of paper for the Governor of

> LA. Better yet, there's an 800 # and there's an email address as

> well.

> > Let's do all three. ;-)

> > Love,

> > Doc

> >

> > Ian " Doc " Shillington N.D.

> > 727-738-0554

> > Doc@A...

> >

> >

> > L.D. Sledge

> >

> > The unbelievable has happened. The Louisiana legislature, House

> and Senate,

> > passed a bill which allows non-medical psychologists to

prescribe

> and dispense

> > just about every psychotropic drug on every list, including

> Ritalin, and

> > schedule 2 narcotics, you name it. It lists the drugs in the

bill

> and chemical

> > composition. I am in a state of shock.

> >

> > Senate Bill (SB 754) sits on the desk of the new woman governor

> Kathleen

> > Blanco for signing. She can still veto it. Everyone, and I mean

> everyone, must

> > call toll free and blow them away with faxes (or emails)

telling

> your

> > opposition to this incredible turn of events.

> >

> > Call the Governor's office, 800-317-5918 and fax to 225-342-

7099.

> This is

> > terribly important. The Psychological Association of America

says

> if this goes

> > through the dam will break, and every other state will then

pass

> such bills.

> > This will have such far reaching results that the entire

country

> will be on

> > psychotropic medication for as little as a runny nose, or an

> itch. Eli

> > Lily and Wyeth, etc., would love to see every person on drugs.

It

> is almost

> > there---the drugged future and I am scared.

> >

> > Ritalin alone, prescribed to millions of children now in this

> country, is

> > " speed " , methylphenidate, the favored street drug in Canada and

> banned in much

> > of Europe. It operates as a psychological straight jacket,

giving

> a child

> > taking it the label of being handicapped in the medical

records,

> entitling

> > many schools to some federal generosity (money), motivating

> schools to

> > demanding the child be put on medication if the child can't sit

> still or seems

> > to demonstrate symptoms of daydreaming or not being mama's

little

> angel.

> >

> > So please take action right now to call and fax or email. This

> bill slipped

> > through with heavy lobbying by the drug industry but without

> anyone knowing

> > anything about it, and as you know in Louisiana, our

legislature

> has the best

> > lawmakers money can buy.

> >

> > You can send by email at this link:

> http://www.gov.state.la.us/govemail.asp

> >

> > L.D. Sledge

> > Louisiana and Clearwater, FL

> > ---------------------------

> > Update on 4/30/04:

> >

> > Again, for those who haven't read and aren't aware of this,

call

> toll free:

> > 800-317-5918, to voice your opposition to this legislation---

you

> don't have to

> > be from Louisiana. Sheer volume of calls would make a

difference.

> If every

> > person on this list would call alone it would sway her I am

sure.

> >

> > The FAX number, which is the best way to communicate, giving

her

> a physical

> > sheaf of papers to see, is 225-342-7099.

> >

> > So for those who have not done so, PLEASE write or call her

> immediately. This

> > is vital to our survival, and is a small thing you can do to

keep

> our personal door

> > to freedom open.

> >

> > L.D. Sledge

> > ---------------------------

> > Harry Frisch in Clearwater

> >

> > CALL FROM ANYWHERE ... and make a difference!

> >

> > When I called Governor Blanco's (800) 317-5918 number, and

> expressed my

> > message for the Governor, to the Governor's aid, she did not

ask

> me if I was a

> > Louisiana resident or where I was calling from. That means that

> these calls

> > from all over the USA will " register " with the Governor with

> equal strength as

> > calls from her Louisiana incumbents, no matter WHERE the caller

> is calling

> > from.

> >

> > It just takes a few seconds to make your call to (800) 317-5918

> and state your

> > opposition to SB 754... which may turn out to be that one extra

> straw it took

> > to change this important piece of history! ...Got a few seconds

> to change

> > history?

> >

> > Very best,

> > Harry Frisch,

> > Clearwater

> > ---------------------------

> > Update on 5/1/04:

> >

> > As far as I know at this time, this bill has not been signed by

> the Governor

> > yet. I think our effort has had a very big effect. We need to

> continue the

> > push. If we all stamp in time, we can trample their building

down.

> >

> > ldsledge

> > ---------------------------

> > Sue Mustard in California

> >

> > Yes, I made the same call from Los Angeles, California, and

> mentioned this

> > to the gal at the Gov.'s office, and she seemed just fine with

it.

> > Do make the call from anywhere.

> >

> >

> > Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following:

> > 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire.

> > 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any

> natural remedy.

> > 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own

> physician and to

> > prescribe for your own health.

> > We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post

here

> as long as

> > they behave themselves.

> > Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that,

and

> any person

> > following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their

own

> risk.

> > It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or

> products from list members, you are agreeing to

> > be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List

Owner

> and members free of any liability.

> >

> > Dr. Ian Shillington

> > Doctor of Naturopathy

> > Dr.IanShillington@G...

> >

> >

> >

> >

--

> ----------

> >

[Guest guest]

Perhaps the answer to a person wanting to die (personal experience on more than one occasion) is sorting through the mental problems that are causing said feelings. People don't just "want to die" for no reason. Perhaps they are being bullied at school or maybe being molested and the parent doesn't know it. Medication in this context is being used so people don't have to go through the hardship of dealing with mental trauma. Not all pain was meant to be avoided. It is though hardship that character is developed. Mental medication is a byproduct of this society's wish for everything to be easy. Instead of thinking of medication as "The only thing that's keeping my children sane and giving them the ability to focus on life around them" perhaps one should think of what is causing them not to be able to concentrate. Fix the problem, not the symptom. What do they eat, is it hydgronated, does it have MSG, were they vaccinated, do they have a mild brain injury. Perhaps one that makes it so they nerve impulses that go from the senses (sight, tactile, auditory) get disrupted somehow on their way to the brain. There are 100 possible reasons why your kids "need" medication. If you are willing to put in the legwork (and this group can reduce that) to find the cause, you can in your own right, take control of your kids wellbeing instead of relying on poison to manage the symptom. In addition, if there were more people that "bashed" people for putting their kids unnecessary medication, it wouldn't be so accepted and we could avoid things like Columbine and other unbelievably disturbing actions by kids that have been drugged so long they don't know what way is "down" so to speak. When a kid doesn't know what a bad feeling is (depression, or any other "negative" feeling) they lose humanity because there must be opposite in all things or we wouldn't have a reference to guide us. Making them feel happy all the time, even when they are planning the gory demise of many, is of no benefit to them. It's simply a matter of will power and a guide that is willing to accept the fact that not everything is meant to be painless.

 

 

Ginger [vleonard] Tuesday, May 11, 2004 11:23 AMherbal remedies Subject: Re: Herbal Remedies - Call-to-arms - MAYDAY!!! Unbelievabl legislation in Louisiana regarding Drugs.What is disgusting, that this legislation is about to be signed or that there are some kids "doped up" as you call it? Do you have children that are in need of medication? Do you have any direct experience with kids that need medication? I do and it's not disgusting. The only thing that's keeping my children sane and giving them the ability to focus on life around them are the medications that they're on. I resisted for as long as I could until one told me he wanted to die. Before you go bashing kids and medication and the parents who give them you might want to talk to some parents of bi-polar and depressed children. Until then I respectfully suggest you be quiet about the subject.herbal remedies , "Caroline" <ladyguinevere@e...> wrote:> This is absolutely disgusting...as if we don't have enough doped up kids in the school as it is. My mother teaches Kindergarten...and this year...out of 18 kids....she has 3 that have to go take their medications during the day...two of them are on Ritalin...this just amazes me.> > Caroline> - > Doc Shillington > herbal remedies > Monday, May 10, 2004 3:39 PM> Herbal Remedies - Call-to-arms - MAYDAY!!! Unbelievable legislation in Louisiana regarding Drugs.> > > This from an attorney friend of mine in Louisiana. > This requires our immediate attention guys. It is no laughing matter where we can sit on the side lines and let the other guy do it.> I suggest faxes and an inundation of paper for the Governor of LA. Better yet, there's an 800 # and there's an email address as well. > Let's do all three. ;-)> Love,> Doc> > Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.> 727-738-0554> Doc@A...> > > L.D. Sledge> > The unbelievable has happened. The Louisiana legislature, House and Senate,> passed a bill which allows non-medical psychologists to prescribe and dispense> just about every psychotropic drug on every list, including Ritalin, and> schedule 2 narcotics, you name it. It lists the drugs in the bill and chemical> composition. I am in a state of shock.> > Senate Bill (SB 754) sits on the desk of the new woman governor Kathleen> Blanco for signing. She can still veto it. Everyone, and I mean everyone, must> call toll free and blow them away with faxes (or emails) telling your> opposition to this incredible turn of events.> > Call the Governor's office, 800-317-5918 and fax to 225-342-7099. This is> terribly important. The Psychological Association of America says if this goes> through the dam will break, and every other state will then pass such bills.> This will have such far reaching results that the entire country will be on> psychotropic medication for as little as a runny nose, or an itch. Eli> Lily and Wyeth, etc., would love to see every person on drugs. It is almost> there---the drugged future and I am scared.> > Ritalin alone, prescribed to millions of children now in this country, is> "speed", methylphenidate, the favored street drug in Canada and banned in much> of Europe. It operates as a psychological straight jacket, giving a child> taking it the label of being handicapped in the medical records, entitling> many schools to some federal generosity (money), motivating schools to> demanding the child be put on medication if the child can't sit still or seems> to demonstrate symptoms of daydreaming or not being mama's little angel.> > So please take action right now to call and fax or email. This bill slipped> through with heavy lobbying by the drug industry but without anyone knowing> anything about it, and as you know in Louisiana, our legislature has the best> lawmakers money can buy.> > You can send by email at this link: http://www.gov.state.la.us/govemail.asp> > L.D. Sledge> Louisiana and Clearwater, FL> ---------------------------> Update on 4/30/04:> > Again, for those who haven't read and aren't aware of this, call toll free:> 800-317-5918, to voice your opposition to this legislation---you don't have to> be from Louisiana. Sheer volume of calls would make a difference. If every> person on this list would call alone it would sway her I am sure.> > The FAX number, which is the best way to communicate, giving her a physical> sheaf of papers to see, is 225-342-7099.> > So for those who have not done so, PLEASE write or call her immediately. This> is vital to our survival, and is a small thing you can do to keep our personal door > to freedom open.> > L.D. Sledge> ---------------------------> Harry Frisch in Clearwater> > CALL FROM ANYWHERE ... and make a difference!> > When I called Governor Blanco's (800) 317-5918 number, and expressed my> message for the Governor, to the Governor's aid, she did not ask me if I was a> Louisiana resident or where I was calling from. That means that these calls> from all over the USA will "register" with the Governor with equal strength as> calls from her Louisiana incumbents, no matter WHERE the caller is calling> from.> > It just takes a few seconds to make your call to (800) 317-5918 and state your> opposition to SB 754... which may turn out to be that one extra straw it took> to change this important piece of history! ...Got a few seconds to change> history?> > Very best,> Harry Frisch,> Clearwater> ---------------------------> Update on 5/1/04:> > As far as I know at this time, this bill has not been signed by the Governor> yet. I think our effort has had a very big effect. We need to continue the> push. If we all stamp in time, we can trample their building down.> > ldsledge> ---------------------------> Sue Mustard in California> > Yes, I made the same call from Los Angeles, California, and mentioned this> to the gal at the Gov.'s office, and she seemed just fine with it.> Do make the call from anywhere.> > > Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: > 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. > 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. > 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and to> prescribe for your own health. > We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as > they behave themselves. > Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person > following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. > It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to > be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. > > Dr. Ian Shillington> Doctor of Naturopathy> Dr.IanShillington@G... > > > > >

[Guest guest]

I STRONGLY agree with this. I first started thinking of killing myself when I was in 4th grade. I had it planned and everything. For various reasons I didn't go through with it and struggled with severe depression until I found Al-Anon appx 9 months ago. I went there because I wanted to deal with living with an alcoholic and I learned so much that changed my life completely.

It wasn't a physical imbalance (maybe it was I guess) but most of it was mental and how I looked at things and coped (rather DIDN'T cope with stress). Of course, soon after I found Al-Anon I also found Form #1 and did a liver cleanse and bought a juicer. Maybe that had a lot to do with it, too. I sure have more energy now.

 

Candace

 

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Lauren Bastow

herbal remedies

Tuesday, May 11, 2004 4:29 PM

RE: Herbal Remedies - Call-to-arms - MAYDAY!!! Unbelievabl legislation in Louisiana regarding Drugs.

 

Perhaps the answer to a person wanting to die (personal experience on more than one occasion) is sorting through the mental problems that are causing said feelings. People don't just "want to die" for no reason.

[Guest guest]

" I resisted for as long as I could until one told me he wanted to die. "

 

Ginger~

 

One of my kids told me he wanted to die also. I started trying to figure out

what was Causing that in a 6.5 yr old child. After some reading and

experimenting, it turned out he was allergic to red and orange Food Dyes.

Yes, it was as simple as that! Cutting out the food dyes Completely changed

his behavior~ in Many ways, all good.

 

Drugs are Not the answer, in the Vast majority of cases. I respectfully

suggest that you continue to read, learn, and try to wean your children off

those drugs.

 

Jan

SAHM of 8, doula, breastfeeding advocate

[Guest guest]

What do you feed your child? We've taken them off sugar, refined

flour, caffine and anything that comes prepackaged in a box. They

don't get aspartame either. They do get jello and an occasional

koolaid.

 

How did you find out he was allergic to dyes? I've had my children

allergy tested and they came back fine. I'm not sure what else

could be causing the bi-polar behavior.

 

 

 

herbal remedies , " Jan Gonzalez " <jgonz@w...>

wrote:

> " I resisted for as long as I could until one told me he wanted to

die. "

>

> Ginger~

>

> One of my kids told me he wanted to die also. I started trying to

figure out

> what was Causing that in a 6.5 yr old child. After some reading and

> experimenting, it turned out he was allergic to red and orange

Food Dyes.

> Yes, it was as simple as that! Cutting out the food dyes

Completely changed

> his behavior~ in Many ways, all good.

>

> Drugs are Not the answer, in the Vast majority of cases. I

respectfully

> suggest that you continue to read, learn, and try to wean your

children off

> those drugs.

>

> Jan

> SAHM of 8, doula, breastfeeding advocate

[Guest guest]

Welllllllllll, I don't agree with putting him back on the meds, as this is jumping from the frying pan into the fire.

 

I'm sure there's something she's missing in his diet. I'm positive of it.

 

Love,

 

Doc

 

Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.727-738-0554Doc

 

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Sylvia

herbal remedies

Tuesday, May 11, 2004 4:06 PM

Re: Herbal Remedies - Call-to-arms - MAYDAY!!! Unbelievabl legislation in Louisiana regarding Drugs.

MY grandson has ADHD and also mini bouts of depression. I am familiar with it as are many of us here.My daughter and all 2 grandsons stayed with us for a year and during that time i suggested that she (daughter) try the herbal route because while on Adderol he was sometimes depressed and frequently had a loss of appetite and he is now underweight. It was for the time working as was the organic diet we had him on, however once the school semester started his teacher didnt want to be patient and deal with it.As a result my daughter had no choice except to put him back on meds or face dealing with stupid child welfare people. She tried other meds including the newest on the market and for the life of me i cant think of the name, but the point is, why doom him to a life of chemical dependancy or other health problems because his techer cant deal with it?And in all honesty, now that he is back on meds, he still has those bad days. I have seen him try to hurt himself, not necessarily to kill himself, but hurt is hurt and it is not being helped by drugs.So, in my experienced opinion... it is disgusting and an outrage!Sylviaherbal remedies , "Ginger" <vleonard@m...> wrote:> What is disgusting, that this legislation is about to be signed or > that there are some kids "doped up" as you call it? Do you have > children that are in need of medication? Do you have any direct > experience with kids that need medication? I do and it's not > disgusting. The only thing that's keeping my children sane and > giving them the ability to focus on life around them are the > medications that they're on. I resisted for as long as I could until > one told me he wanted to die. > > Before you go bashing kids and medication and the parents who give > them you might want to talk to some parents of bi-polar and depressed > children. Until then I respectfully suggest you be quiet about the > subject.> > herbal remedies , "Caroline" > <ladyguinevere@e...> wrote:> > This is absolutely disgusting...as if we don't have enough doped up > kids in the school as it is. My mother teaches Kindergarten...and > this year...out of 18 kids....she has 3 that have to go take their > medications during the day...two of them are on Ritalin...this just > amazes me.> > > > Caroline> > - > > Doc Shillington > > herbal remedies > > Monday, May 10, 2004 3:39 PM> > Herbal Remedies - Call-to-arms - MAYDAY!!! Unbelievable > legislation in Louisiana regarding Drugs.> > > > > > This from an attorney friend of mine in Louisiana. > > This requires our immediate attention guys. It is no laughing > matter where we can sit on the side lines and let the other guy do it.> > I suggest faxes and an inundation of paper for the Governor of > LA. Better yet, there's an 800 # and there's an email address as > well. > > Let's do all three. ;-)> > Love,> > Doc> > > > Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.> > 727-738-0554> > Doc@A...> > > > > > L.D. Sledge> > > > The unbelievable has happened. The Louisiana legislature, House > and Senate,> > passed a bill which allows non-medical psychologists to prescribe > and dispense> > just about every psychotropic drug on every list, including > Ritalin, and> > schedule 2 narcotics, you name it. It lists the drugs in the bill > and chemical> > composition. I am in a state of shock.> > > > Senate Bill (SB 754) sits on the desk of the new woman governor > Kathleen> > Blanco for signing. She can still veto it. Everyone, and I mean > everyone, must> > call toll free and blow them away with faxes (or emails) telling > your> > opposition to this incredible turn of events.> > > > Call the Governor's office, 800-317-5918 and fax to 225-342-7099. > This is> > terribly important. The Psychological Association of America says > if this goes> > through the dam will break, and every other state will then pass > such bills.> > This will have such far reaching results that the entire country > will be on> > psychotropic medication for as little as a runny nose, or an > itch. Eli> > Lily and Wyeth, etc., would love to see every person on drugs. It > is almost> > there---the drugged future and I am scared.> > > > Ritalin alone, prescribed to millions of children now in this > country, is> > "speed", methylphenidate, the favored street drug in Canada and > banned in much> > of Europe. It operates as a psychological straight jacket, giving > a child> > taking it the label of being handicapped in the medical records, > entitling> > many schools to some federal generosity (money), motivating > schools to> > demanding the child be put on medication if the child can't sit > still or seems> > to demonstrate symptoms of daydreaming or not being mama's little > angel.> > > > So please take action right now to call and fax or email. This > bill slipped> > through with heavy lobbying by the drug industry but without > anyone knowing> > anything about it, and as you know in Louisiana, our legislature > has the best> > lawmakers money can buy.> > > > You can send by email at this link: > http://www.gov.state.la.us/govemail.asp> > > > L.D. Sledge> > Louisiana and Clearwater, FL> > ---------------------------> > Update on 4/30/04:> > > > Again, for those who haven't read and aren't aware of this, call > toll free:> > 800-317-5918, to voice your opposition to this legislation---you > don't have to> > be from Louisiana. Sheer volume of calls would make a difference. > If every> > person on this list would call alone it would sway her I am sure.> > > > The FAX number, which is the best way to communicate, giving her > a physical> > sheaf of papers to see, is 225-342-7099.> > > > So for those who have not done so, PLEASE write or call her > immediately. This> > is vital to our survival, and is a small thing you can do to keep > our personal door > > to freedom open.> > > > L.D. Sledge> > ---------------------------> > Harry Frisch in Clearwater> > > > CALL FROM ANYWHERE ... and make a difference!> > > > When I called Governor Blanco's (800) 317-5918 number, and > expressed my> > message for the Governor, to the Governor's aid, she did not ask > me if I was a> > Louisiana resident or where I was calling from. That means that > these calls> > from all over the USA will "register" with the Governor with > equal strength as> > calls from her Louisiana incumbents, no matter WHERE the caller > is calling> > from.> > > > It just takes a few seconds to make your call to (800) 317-5918 > and state your> > opposition to SB 754... which may turn out to be that one extra > straw it took> > to change this important piece of history! ...Got a few seconds > to change> > history?> > > > Very best,> > Harry Frisch,> > Clearwater> > ---------------------------> > Update on 5/1/04:> > > > As far as I know at this time, this bill has not been signed by > the Governor> > yet. I think our effort has had a very big effect. We need to > continue the> > push. If we all stamp in time, we can trample their building down.> > > > ldsledge> > ---------------------------> > Sue Mustard in California> > > > Yes, I made the same call from Los Angeles, California, and > mentioned this> > to the gal at the Gov.'s office, and she seemed just fine with it.> > Do make the call from anywhere.> > > > > > Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: > > 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. > > 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any > natural remedy. > > 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own > physician and to> > prescribe for your own health. > > We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here > as long as > > they behave themselves. > > Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and > any person > > following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own > risk. > > It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or > products from list members, you are agreeing to > > be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner > and members free of any liability. > > > > Dr. Ian Shillington> > Doctor of Naturopathy> > Dr.IanShillington@G... > > > > > > > > --> ----------> >

[Guest guest]

Dear Candace,

Welllllll, I'm certainly glad you decieded to be fully responsible for handling yourself.

Just shows to go ya, what you can do when you are determined to pull yourself up by the bootstraps.

Very well done.

Love,

Doc

 

Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.727-738-0554Doc

 

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Candace Podratz

herbal remedies

Tuesday, May 11, 2004 6:01 PM

Re: Herbal Remedies - Call-to-arms - MAYDAY!!! Unbelievabl legislation in Louisiana regarding Drugs.

 

I STRONGLY agree with this. I first started thinking of killing myself when I was in 4th grade. I had it planned and everything. For various reasons I didn't go through with it and struggled with severe depression until I found Al-Anon appx 9 months ago. I went there because I wanted to deal with living with an alcoholic and I learned so much that changed my life completely.

It wasn't a physical imbalance (maybe it was I guess) but most of it was mental and how I looked at things and coped (rather DIDN'T cope with stress). Of course, soon after I found Al-Anon I also found Form #1 and did a liver cleanse and bought a juicer. Maybe that had a lot to do with it, too. I sure have more energy now.

 

Candace

[Guest guest]

Holy Tamale Batman.

Jello and Koolaid have sugar in them Ginger.

You need to read the labels.

Read my article in the files on the Myth and the Mystery.

http://f6.grp.fs.com/v1/QIKiQBDOZAVsOQ4OAEbAMWL-WNBBWn8pUdEAzb4eBmMcQXkVCL-eZXpVqrvHx7Na-vZ3xkdPmjfjahdn4w/Articles/The%20Myth%20%26%20The%20Mystery

Love,

Doc

 

Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.727-738-0554Doc

 

-

Ginger

herbal remedies

Tuesday, May 11, 2004 9:37 PM

Re: Herbal Remedies - Call-to-arms - MAYDAY!!! Unbelievabl legislation in Louisiana regarding Drugs.

What do you feed your child? We've taken them off sugar, refined flour, caffine and anything that comes prepackaged in a box. They don't get aspartame either. They do get jello and an occasional koolaid.How did you find out he was allergic to dyes? I've had my children allergy tested and they came back fine. I'm not sure what else could be causing the bi-polar behavior.

[Guest guest]

EVERYTHING! But i cannot control what she feeds them when they are

home. She is single, foolish, and doesnt have much in the way of

income.

 

We they are here with Dh and I, they are fed organics and they like

it. I even asked if she (daughter) would be willing to let us take

all three boys for a month during the summer and do cleanses with

them, she refused. The only reason she agreed to the organics when

they lived with us, was because there was not a choice.

 

She is however coming around on some things (slowly though) so i have

not lost all heart. Sadly where my little guys are concerned even

though time is of the essence, i have no choice but to wait.

 

Sylvia

 

herbal remedies , " Doc Shillington "

<DocShillington@V...> wrote:

> Welllllllllll, I don't agree with putting him back on the meds, as

this is jumping from the frying pan into the fire.

>

> I'm sure there's something she's missing in his diet. I'm positive

of it.

>

> Love,

>

> Doc

>

> Ian " Doc " Shillington N.D.

> 727-738-0554

> Doc@A...

> -

> Sylvia

> herbal remedies

> Tuesday, May 11, 2004 4:06 PM

> Re: Herbal Remedies - Call-to-arms - MAYDAY!!!

Unbelievabl legislation in Louisiana regarding Drugs.

>

>

> MY grandson has ADHD and also mini bouts of depression. I am

> familiar with it as are many of us here.

>

> My daughter and all 2 grandsons stayed with us for a year and

during

> that time i suggested that she (daughter) try the herbal route

> because while on Adderol he was sometimes depressed and

frequently

> had a loss of appetite and he is now underweight. It was for the

> time working as was the organic diet we had him on, however once

the

> school semester started his teacher didnt want to be patient and

deal

> with it.

>

> As a result my daughter had no choice except to put him back on

meds

> or face dealing with stupid child welfare people. She tried

other

> meds including the newest on the market and for the life of me i

cant

> think of the name, but the point is, why doom him to a life of

> chemical dependancy or other health problems because his techer

cant

> deal with it?

>

> And in all honesty, now that he is back on meds, he still has

those

> bad days. I have seen him try to hurt himself, not necessarily

to

> kill himself, but hurt is hurt and it is not being helped by

drugs.

>

> So, in my experienced opinion... it is disgusting and an outrage!

>

> Sylvia

>

> herbal remedies , " Ginger " <vleonard@m...>

> wrote:

> > What is disgusting, that this legislation is about to be signed

or

> > that there are some kids " doped up " as you call it? Do you

have

> > children that are in need of medication? Do you have any

direct

> > experience with kids that need medication? I do and it's not

> > disgusting. The only thing that's keeping my children sane and

> > giving them the ability to focus on life around them are the

> > medications that they're on. I resisted for as long as I could

> until

> > one told me he wanted to die.

> >

> > Before you go bashing kids and medication and the parents who

give

> > them you might want to talk to some parents of bi-polar and

> depressed

> > children. Until then I respectfully suggest you be quiet about

the

> > subject.

> >

> > herbal remedies , " Caroline "

> > <ladyguinevere@e...> wrote:

> > > This is absolutely disgusting...as if we don't have enough

doped

> up

> > kids in the school as it is. My mother teaches

Kindergarten...and

> > this year...out of 18 kids....she has 3 that have to go take

their

> > medications during the day...two of them are on Ritalin...this

just

> > amazes me.

> > >

> > > Caroline

> > > -

> > > Doc Shillington

> > > herbal remedies

> > > Monday, May 10, 2004 3:39 PM

> > > Herbal Remedies - Call-to-arms - MAYDAY!!!

> Unbelievable

> > legislation in Louisiana regarding Drugs.

> > >

> > >

> > > This from an attorney friend of mine in Louisiana.

> > > This requires our immediate attention guys. It is no

laughing

> > matter where we can sit on the side lines and let the other guy

do

> it.

> > > I suggest faxes and an inundation of paper for the Governor

of

> > LA. Better yet, there's an 800 # and there's an email address

as

> > well.

> > > Let's do all three. ;-)

> > > Love,

> > > Doc

> > >

> > > Ian " Doc " Shillington N.D.

> > > 727-738-0554

> > > Doc@A...

> > >

> > >

> > > L.D. Sledge

> > >

> > > The unbelievable has happened. The Louisiana legislature,

House

> > and Senate,

> > > passed a bill which allows non-medical psychologists to

> prescribe

> > and dispense

> > > just about every psychotropic drug on every list, including

> > Ritalin, and

> > > schedule 2 narcotics, you name it. It lists the drugs in

the

> bill

> > and chemical

> > > composition. I am in a state of shock.

> > >

> > > Senate Bill (SB 754) sits on the desk of the new woman

governor

> > Kathleen

> > > Blanco for signing. She can still veto it. Everyone, and I

mean

> > everyone, must

> > > call toll free and blow them away with faxes (or emails)

> telling

> > your

> > > opposition to this incredible turn of events.

> > >

> > > Call the Governor's office, 800-317-5918 and fax to 225-342-

> 7099.

> > This is

> > > terribly important. The Psychological Association of

America

> says

> > if this goes

> > > through the dam will break, and every other state will then

> pass

> > such bills.

> > > This will have such far reaching results that the entire

> country

> > will be on

> > > psychotropic medication for as little as a runny nose, or

an

> > itch. Eli

> > > Lily and Wyeth, etc., would love to see every person on

drugs.

> It

> > is almost

> > > there---the drugged future and I am scared.

> > >

> > > Ritalin alone, prescribed to millions of children now in

this

> > country, is

> > > " speed " , methylphenidate, the favored street drug in Canada

and

> > banned in much

> > > of Europe. It operates as a psychological straight jacket,

> giving

> > a child

> > > taking it the label of being handicapped in the medical

> records,

> > entitling

> > > many schools to some federal generosity (money), motivating

> > schools to

> > > demanding the child be put on medication if the child can't

sit

> > still or seems

> > > to demonstrate symptoms of daydreaming or not being mama's

> little

> > angel.

> > >

> > > So please take action right now to call and fax or email.

This

> > bill slipped

> > > through with heavy lobbying by the drug industry but

without

> > anyone knowing

> > > anything about it, and as you know in Louisiana, our

> legislature

> > has the best

> > > lawmakers money can buy.

> > >

> > > You can send by email at this link:

> > http://www.gov.state.la.us/govemail.asp

> > >

> > > L.D. Sledge

> > > Louisiana and Clearwater, FL

> > > ---------------------------

> > > Update on 4/30/04:

> > >

> > > Again, for those who haven't read and aren't aware of this,

> call

> > toll free:

> > > 800-317-5918, to voice your opposition to this legislation--

-

> you

> > don't have to

> > > be from Louisiana. Sheer volume of calls would make a

> difference.

> > If every

> > > person on this list would call alone it would sway her I am

> sure.

> > >

> > > The FAX number, which is the best way to communicate,

giving

> her

> > a physical

> > > sheaf of papers to see, is 225-342-7099.

> > >

> > > So for those who have not done so, PLEASE write or call her

> > immediately. This

> > > is vital to our survival, and is a small thing you can do

to

> keep

> > our personal door

> > > to freedom open.

> > >

> > > L.D. Sledge

> > > ---------------------------

> > > Harry Frisch in Clearwater

> > >

> > > CALL FROM ANYWHERE ... and make a difference!

> > >

> > > When I called Governor Blanco's (800) 317-5918 number, and

> > expressed my

> > > message for the Governor, to the Governor's aid, she did

not

> ask

> > me if I was a

> > > Louisiana resident or where I was calling from. That means

that

> > these calls

> > > from all over the USA will " register " with the Governor

with

> > equal strength as

> > > calls from her Louisiana incumbents, no matter WHERE the

caller

> > is calling

> > > from.

> > >

> > > It just takes a few seconds to make your call to (800) 317-

5918

> > and state your

> > > opposition to SB 754... which may turn out to be that one

extra

> > straw it took

> > > to change this important piece of history! ...Got a few

seconds

> > to change

> > > history?

> > >

> > > Very best,

> > > Harry Frisch,

> > > Clearwater

> > > ---------------------------

> > > Update on 5/1/04:

> > >

> > > As far as I know at this time, this bill has not been

signed by

> > the Governor

> > > yet. I think our effort has had a very big effect. We need

to

> > continue the

> > > push. If we all stamp in time, we can trample their

building

> down.

> > >

> > > ldsledge

> > > ---------------------------

> > > Sue Mustard in California

> > >

> > > Yes, I made the same call from Los Angeles, California, and

> > mentioned this

> > > to the gal at the Gov.'s office, and she seemed just fine

with

> it.

> > > Do make the call from anywhere.

> > >

> > >

> > > Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following:

> > > 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire.

> > > 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using

any

> > natural remedy.

> > > 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own

> > physician and to

> > > prescribe for your own health.

> > > We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post

> here

> > as long as

> > > they behave themselves.

> > > Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly

that,

> and

> > any person

> > > following the advice of anyone posting here does so at

their

> own

> > risk.

> > > It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice

or

> > products from list members, you are agreeing to

> > > be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List

> Owner

> > and members free of any liability.

> > >

> > > Dr. Ian Shillington

> > > Doctor of Naturopathy

> > > Dr.IanShillington@G...

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > -----------------------------

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> --

> > ----------

> > >

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Not to mention dyes!

 

Sylvia

 

herbal remedies , " Doc Shillington "

<DocShillington@V...> wrote:

> Holy Tamale Batman.

> Jello and Koolaid have sugar in them Ginger.

> You need to read the labels.

 

> Love,

> Doc

>

> Ian " Doc " Shillington N.D.

> 727-738-0554

> Doc@A...

[Guest guest]

Gotcha.

Try the educational approach.

Have her listen to my lecture and read the articles on "The Myth and the Mystery".

She really needs an education.

Love,

Doc

 

Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.727-738-0554Doc

 

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Sylvia

herbal remedies

Wednesday, May 12, 2004 4:35 PM

Re: Herbal Remedies - Call-to-arms - MAYDAY!!! Unbelievabl legislation in Louisiana regarding Drugs.

EVERYTHING! But i cannot control what she feeds them when they are home. She is single, foolish, and doesnt have much in the way of income.We they are here with Dh and I, they are fed organics and they like it. I even asked if she (daughter) would be willing to let us take all three boys for a month during the summer and do cleanses with them, she refused. The only reason she agreed to the organics when they lived with us, was because there was not a choice. She is however coming around on some things (slowly though) so i have not lost all heart. Sadly where my little guys are concerned even though time is of the essence, i have no choice but to wait.Sylviaherbal remedies , "Doc Shillington" <DocShillington@V...> wrote:> Welllllllllll, I don't agree with putting him back on the meds, as this is jumping from the frying pan into the fire.> > I'm sure there's something she's missing in his diet. I'm positive of it.> > Love,> > Doc> > Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.> 727-738-0554> Doc@A...> - > Sylvia > herbal remedies > Tuesday, May 11, 2004 4:06 PM> Re: Herbal Remedies - Call-to-arms - MAYDAY!!! Unbelievabl legislation in Louisiana regarding Drugs.> > > MY grandson has ADHD and also mini bouts of depression. I am > familiar with it as are many of us here.> > My daughter and all 2 grandsons stayed with us for a year and during > that time i suggested that she (daughter) try the herbal route > because while on Adderol he was sometimes depressed and frequently > had a loss of appetite and he is now underweight. It was for the > time working as was the organic diet we had him on, however once the > school semester started his teacher didnt want to be patient and deal > with it.> > As a result my daughter had no choice except to put him back on meds > or face dealing with stupid child welfare people. She tried other > meds including the newest on the market and for the life of me i cant > think of the name, but the point is, why doom him to a life of > chemical dependancy or other health problems because his techer cant > deal with it?> > And in all honesty, now that he is back on meds, he still has those > bad days. I have seen him try to hurt himself, not necessarily to > kill himself, but hurt is hurt and it is not being helped by drugs.> > So, in my experienced opinion... it is disgusting and an outrage!> > Sylvia> > herbal remedies , "Ginger" <vleonard@m...> > wrote:> > What is disgusting, that this legislation is about to be signed or > > that there are some kids "doped up" as you call it? Do you have > > children that are in need of medication? Do you have any direct > > experience with kids that need medication? I do and it's not > > disgusting. The only thing that's keeping my children sane and > > giving them the ability to focus on life around them are the > > medications that they're on. I resisted for as long as I could > until > > one told me he wanted to die. > > > > Before you go bashing kids and medication and the parents who give > > them you might want to talk to some parents of bi-polar and > depressed > > children. Until then I respectfully suggest you be quiet about the > > subject.> > > > herbal remedies , "Caroline" > > <ladyguinevere@e...> wrote:> > > This is absolutely disgusting...as if we don't have enough doped > up > > kids in the school as it is. My mother teaches Kindergarten...and > > this year...out of 18 kids....she has 3 that have to go take their > > medications during the day...two of them are on Ritalin...this just > > amazes me.> > > > > > Caroline> > > - > > > Doc Shillington > > > herbal remedies > > > Monday, May 10, 2004 3:39 PM> > > Herbal Remedies - Call-to-arms - MAYDAY!!! > Unbelievable > > legislation in Louisiana regarding Drugs.> > > > > > > > > This from an attorney friend of mine in Louisiana. > > > This requires our immediate attention guys. It is no laughing > > matter where we can sit on the side lines and let the other guy do > it.> > > I suggest faxes and an inundation of paper for the Governor of > > LA. Better yet, there's an 800 # and there's an email address as > > well. > > > Let's do all three. ;-)> > > Love,> > > Doc> > > > > > Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.> > > 727-738-0554> > > Doc@A...> > > > > > > > > L.D. Sledge> > > > > > The unbelievable has happened. The Louisiana legislature, House > > and Senate,> > > passed a bill which allows non-medical psychologists to > prescribe > > and dispense> > > just about every psychotropic drug on every list, including > > Ritalin, and> > > schedule 2 narcotics, you name it. It lists the drugs in the > bill > > and chemical> > > composition. I am in a state of shock.> > > > > > Senate Bill (SB 754) sits on the desk of the new woman governor > > Kathleen> > > Blanco for signing. She can still veto it. Everyone, and I mean > > everyone, must> > > call toll free and blow them away with faxes (or emails) > telling > > your> > > opposition to this incredible turn of events.> > > > > > Call the Governor's office, 800-317-5918 and fax to 225-342-> 7099. > > This is> > > terribly important. The Psychological Association of America > says > > if this goes> > > through the dam will break, and every other state will then > pass > > such bills.> > > This will have such far reaching results that the entire > country > > will be on> > > psychotropic medication for as little as a runny nose, or an > > itch. Eli> > > Lily and Wyeth, etc., would love to see every person on drugs. > It > > is almost> > > there---the drugged future and I am scared.> > > > > > Ritalin alone, prescribed to millions of children now in this > > country, is> > > "speed", methylphenidate, the favored street drug in Canada and > > banned in much> > > of Europe. It operates as a psychological straight jacket, > giving > > a child> > > taking it the label of being handicapped in the medical > records, > > entitling> > > many schools to some federal generosity (money), motivating > > schools to> > > demanding the child be put on medication if the child can't sit > > still or seems> > > to demonstrate symptoms of daydreaming or not being mama's > little > > angel.> > > > > > So please take action right now to call and fax or email. This > > bill slipped> > > through with heavy lobbying by the drug industry but without > > anyone knowing> > > anything about it, and as you know in Louisiana, our > legislature > > has the best> > > lawmakers money can buy.> > > > > > You can send by email at this link: > > http://www.gov.state.la.us/govemail.asp> > > > > > L.D. Sledge> > > Louisiana and Clearwater, FL> > > ---------------------------> > > Update on 4/30/04:> > > > > > Again, for those who haven't read and aren't aware of this, > call > > toll free:> > > 800-317-5918, to voice your opposition to this legislation---> you > > don't have to> > > be from Louisiana. Sheer volume of calls would make a > difference. > > If every> > > person on this list would call alone it would sway her I am > sure.> > > > > > The FAX number, which is the best way to communicate, giving > her > > a physical> > > sheaf of papers to see, is 225-342-7099.> > > > > > So for those who have not done so, PLEASE write or call her > > immediately. This> > > is vital to our survival, and is a small thing you can do to > keep > > our personal door > > > to freedom open.> > > > > > L.D. Sledge> > > ---------------------------> > > Harry Frisch in Clearwater> > > > > > CALL FROM ANYWHERE ... and make a difference!> > > > > > When I called Governor Blanco's (800) 317-5918 number, and > > expressed my> > > message for the Governor, to the Governor's aid, she did not > ask > > me if I was a> > > Louisiana resident or where I was calling from. That means that > > these calls> > > from all over the USA will "register" with the Governor with > > equal strength as> > > calls from her Louisiana incumbents, no matter WHERE the caller > > is calling> > > from.> > > > > > It just takes a few seconds to make your call to (800) 317-5918 > > and state your> > > opposition to SB 754... which may turn out to be that one extra > > straw it took> > > to change this important piece of history! ...Got a few seconds > > to change> > > history?> > > > > > Very best,> > > Harry Frisch,> > > Clearwater> > > ---------------------------> > > Update on 5/1/04:> > > > > > As far as I know at this time, this bill has not been signed by > > the Governor> > > yet. I think our effort has had a very big effect. We need to > > continue the> > > push. If we all stamp in time, we can trample their building > down.> > > > > > ldsledge> > > ---------------------------> > > Sue Mustard in California> > > > > > Yes, I made the same call from Los Angeles, California, and > > mentioned this> > > to the gal at the Gov.'s office, and she seemed just fine with > it.> > > Do make the call from anywhere.> > > > > > > > > Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: > > > 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. > > > 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any > > natural remedy. > > > 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own > > physician and to> > > prescribe for your own health. > > > We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post > here > > as long as > > > they behave themselves. > > > Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, > and > > any person > > > following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their > own > > risk. > > > It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or > > products from list members, you are agreeing to > > > be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List > Owner > > and members free of any liability. > > > > > > Dr. Ian Shillington> > > Doctor of Naturopathy> > > Dr.IanShillington@G... > > > > > > > > > > > > > --> > ----------> > >

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Thanks Doc...I'll keep trying. My family is at stake here!

 

Sylvia

 

herbal remedies , " Doc Shillington "

<DocShillington@V...> wrote:

> Gotcha.

> Try the educational approach.

> Have her listen to my lecture and read the articles on " The Myth

and the Mystery " .

> She really needs an education.

> Love,

> Doc

>

> Ian " Doc " Shillington N.D.

> 727-738-0554

> Doc@A...

>